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Re: The Trump Dump!

#4149

by Sunder » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:10 pm

ICE is mad because Donny went on Twitter and bragged about their big deportation plans in advance of them actually carrying them out. Oops.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:56 am

Man, I step away for a bit and this thread gets all neglected and dusty.


Re: The Trump Dump!

#4147

by KiwiInOz » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:18 pm

MarcusAu wrote: Moon(s) as a part of Mars?

I'd be afraid (or perhaps even terrified) if I was coming up with comments like that.
That's what happens when you pluck your tweets from Uranus.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by MarcusAu » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:08 am

Moon(s) as a part of Mars?

I'd be afraid (or perhaps even terrified) if I was coming up with comments like that.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4145

by Mr. X, Indeed » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:44 am

We can go back to the moon



or maybe not



something, something...space.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4144

by Old_ones » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:51 am

Good news! Trump just solved the immigration crisis, so we in the US can move on to other problems.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4143

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 12:34 pm

Sunder wrote: Trade wars are easy to win if you're China.
China is paying for the tariffs, just like Mexico is paying for the wall. It's TrumpLogic, and DoublePlus good.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4142

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 12:26 pm



Yay, our allies hate us! That'll show 'em.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 12:20 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4140

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 12:17 pm



So, one has to wonder why the military buildup. Wagging the dog for distractions, or just plain nuts?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4139

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 11:41 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4138

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue May 14, 2019 10:36 am



That's what happens when you listen to Ramsay John Bolton.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4137

by MarcusAu » Mon May 13, 2019 12:35 pm

Sunder wrote: Trade wars are easy to win if you're China.
They are prepared to play the long game - so got Hong Kong back in the end.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4136

by Sunder » Mon May 13, 2019 10:42 am

Trade wars are easy to win if you're China.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4135

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 08, 2019 6:05 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4134

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 08, 2019 1:05 pm



Jibes with my own experience as well. Sunk Cost Fallacy comes to mind...

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 08, 2019 1:01 pm

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 08, 2019 1:00 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4131

by Lsuoma » Wed May 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Y'better watch out, otherwise you might get bullseyed in the canyon back home.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 08, 2019 12:18 pm



Womp womp.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4129

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon May 06, 2019 5:27 pm

It's a good thing Trump says he's with Kim Jong-Un, or this would be a disheartening development. It's almost as though Trump is getting played while North Korea ramps up their nuclear weapon delivery system.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nort ... e-n1002221

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4128

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon May 06, 2019 5:16 pm





I'm sure that this is just coincidental, nothing to do with the possibility of Mueller testifying.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4127

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon May 06, 2019 5:12 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4126

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Fri May 03, 2019 6:54 am

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Stankeye wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc
It's always strange to me how two people can read the same thing and come away with a totally different interpretation. No where in that article does he exonerate Trump, which it seems to be your avenue of attack in your litany quoted above to Keating and the author I assume.

They (the author) explicitly lay out all the shortcomings of the media in their zeal and how they got in bed with the intelligence agencies to produce this mess. They list example after example of stuff they got wrong, even the genesis of this thing in the Steel memo. If Mueller didn't find anything I would be amazed. As politicians, especially this one, are a corrupt lot. Yet your takeaway is that the author and Keating think Trump is innocent.

Not what I read.
The author thought that the probe had cleared Trump of collusion; it clearly did not. It quite clearly is putting it on Congress to do their Constitutional jobs. It stated that Russiagate was this generation's WMD, when that is ridiculous, especially since there's demonstrable Russian problems in the election, the Trump Tower Meeting, etc. It was simply a risible article.

Certainly, a lot of press went too far in conjecture. A lot of press didn't go "too far enough" and continue to provide cover for a career criminal.
Nobody wants to hear this, but news that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller is headed home without issuing new charges is a death-blow for the reputation of the American news media.

As has long been rumored, the former FBI chief’s independent probe will result in multiple indictments and convictions, but no “presidency-wrecking” conspiracy charges, or anything that would meet the layman’s definition of “collusion” with Russia.
JFC, "Death knell"? Exaggerate much? "Anything that would meet the layman's definition of collusion" hahaha. Yeah, that ain't true. The whole article is edgy, contrarian dreck. The death knell of journalism is more exemplified by the author of the article. Hyperbole ranging in to speculation shading into lies.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Fri May 03, 2019 6:39 am

Stankeye wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc
It's always strange to me how two people can read the same thing and come away with a totally different interpretation. No where in that article does he exonerate Trump, which it seems to be your avenue of attack in your litany quoted above to Keating and the author I assume.

They (the author) explicitly lay out all the shortcomings of the media in their zeal and how they got in bed with the intelligence agencies to produce this mess. They list example after example of stuff they got wrong, even the genesis of this thing in the Steel memo. If Mueller didn't find anything I would be amazed. As politicians, especially this one, are a corrupt lot. Yet your takeaway is that the author and Keating think Trump is innocent.

Not what I read.
The author thought that the probe had cleared Trump of collusion; it clearly did not. It quite clearly is putting it on Congress to do their Constitutional jobs. It stated that Russiagate was this generation's WMD, when that is ridiculous, especially since there's demonstrable Russian problems in the election, the Trump Tower Meeting, etc. It was simply a risible article.

Certainly, a lot of press went too far in conjecture. A lot of press didn't go "too far enough" and continue to provide cover for a career criminal.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Fri May 03, 2019 6:33 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Keating » Thu May 02, 2019 4:35 pm

A major reason Trump was able to get elected is the awfulness of the media. That's also pretty much been the raison d'état of the pit since day one. The coverage of elevatorgate, when it got general coverage, was always framed poorly. That problem has only grown and spread to all other areas of news. Even Ben Rhoades has said that most of the news media were idiots, with an average age of 27 and would call him to find out what was going on around the world because there weren't any foreign bureaus anymore. What Trump represents simply can't be defeated until the media actually starts to frame things honestly. There are real problems with the progressive, cosmopolitan or globalist worldview, whatever you want to call it, that simply don't get a hearing or immediately get the "everyone I don't like is Hitler" treatment. It is the elitism inherent in that world view that is the cause of much of the friction. What I'm still trying to decide is if the media has always been awful and we're only just noticing it more, or if this is a problem caused by the internet; a side effect of modernity.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Stankeye » Thu May 02, 2019 2:48 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc
It's always strange to me how two people can read the same thing and come away with a totally different interpretation. No where in that article does he exonerate Trump, which it seems to be your avenue of attack in your litany quoted above to Keating and the author I assume.

They (the author) explicitly lay out all the shortcomings of the media in their zeal and how they got in bed with the intelligence agencies to produce this mess. They list example after example of stuff they got wrong, even the genesis of this thing in the Steel memo. If Mueller didn't find anything I would be amazed. As politicians, especially this one, are a corrupt lot. Yet your takeaway is that the author and Keating think Trump is innocent.

Not what I read.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu May 02, 2019 12:11 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4120

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 01, 2019 6:44 am

Lindsey Graham is wailing about Hillary's email servers....

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4119

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 01, 2019 6:41 am



Barr was hired, as he always is, to clean up Republican messes.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4118

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed May 01, 2019 6:14 am



It's almost as though the people that were crowing about the Mueller Report being a dud or vindication for Trump were full of shit.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Sunder » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:34 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Even the foremost Trump supporters become uncomfortable with the mere thought that a Democrat POTUS would act in the many ways Trump does. There seems to be this disturbing sense that there will be a total reset when Trump is gone, and the norms of politics will be magically restored. It shows clearly the tribalism that makes "it's okay when we do it" a new hypocritical norm. Some Democrats running for POTUS are already talking about abusing their office in the same ways Trump has, by executive action, etc. Not all of them have released their taxes. There have been some dangerous precedents set by Trump and cheered on by his fans that might come back to bite everyone in the ass.
They're counting on Republican-packed courts curtailing Dem power while letting Reps do as they please.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:52 pm

Keating wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:56 am
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc
My thing is more that the media is terrible and needs a reckoning more than Trump is awesome.
Some of the media got some things wrong, especially in opinion columns. None of the media is/was consistently partisan and wrong as the two prongs of MSNBC and Fox News. The rest got a lot of things right, especially in an era of sanctified lying from the pulpit. I do fully agree that news media shouldn't be a partisan endeavor. But much of it is declared partisan, or even an "enemy of the people" for reporting things people don't like. A disturbing trend.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Kirbmarc » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:14 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4114

by Keating » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:56 am

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc
My thing is more that the media is terrible and needs a reckoning more than Trump is awesome.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4113

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:46 am



And of course, this is undeniably true. Even the foremost Trump supporters become uncomfortable with the mere thought that a Democrat POTUS would act in the many ways Trump does. There seems to be this disturbing sense that there will be a total reset when Trump is gone, and the norms of politics will be magically restored. It shows clearly the tribalism that makes "it's okay when we do it" a new hypocritical norm. Some Democrats running for POTUS are already talking about abusing their office in the same ways Trump has, by executive action, etc. Not all of them have released their taxes. There have been some dangerous precedents set by Trump and cheered on by his fans that might come back to bite everyone in the ass.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4112

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:34 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4111

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:04 am

There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. Mueller explicitly found that Russia tried to interfere in US elections, that Trump team welcomed the help, that there is the strong possibility that if there wasn't obstruction into his probe, he might have proven collusion.

I noticed the article you posted was written well before the release of the redacted Mueller report. Give it a look-over and see if you believe that Trump is innocent and deserves to be POTUS.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LBEaHIrsqc

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Keating » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:56 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:34 pm



Seems legit.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4108

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:23 pm

Trump does a better job about vaccines....



But...



And this should not be forgotten-

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:43 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:32 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:45 pm

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:38 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4103

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:25 pm



The Great Negotiator.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4102

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:06 pm



Plotting to kill prominent Democrats, a couple of the more liberal SCOTUS judges, CNN anchors...how long until he's offered a job in Trump's White House?*

*That's a joke. He'll need to get a job at Fox News first.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:58 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4100

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:20 pm

Hopefully in this we will see the balance of powers in the State's power coming into play. The system was designed with a variety of methods to check the power of bad actors.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:11 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by Brive1987 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:08 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Clearly by “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime of collusion...”

I meant “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime (in this case the base underlying crime of collusion).

Obvious. By some here have a tendency to run amok with any ambiguous thread.
One word salad after another.
Your default fall back when once more your brain disengages. It’s starting to define you.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:53 pm

On Trump's rather bizarre assertion that he would appeal an impeachment to the SCOTUS.

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:27 pm



:popcorn:

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:24 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4094

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:14 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

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by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:08 am

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/587785/
I wanted to share my experience transitioning from Trump team member to pragmatist about Trump to advocate for his impeachment, because I think many other Republicans are starting a similar transition. Politics is a team sport, and if you actively work within a political party, there is some expectation that you will follow orders and rally behind the leader, even when you disagree. There is a point, though, at which that expectation turns from a mix of loyalty and pragmatism into something more sinister, a blind devotion that serves to enable criminal conduct.

The Mueller report was that tipping point for me, and it should be for Republican and independent voters, and for Republicans in Congress. In the face of a Department of Justice policy that prohibited him from indicting a sitting president, Mueller drafted what any reasonable reader would see as a referral to Congress to commence impeachment hearings.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4092

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:01 am

Brive1987 wrote: Clearly by “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime of collusion...”

I meant “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime (in this case the base underlying crime of collusion).

Obvious. By some here have a tendency to run amok with any ambiguous thread.
One word salad after another.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4091

by Brive1987 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:54 pm

Clearly by “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime of collusion...”

I meant “Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime (in this case the base underlying crime of collusion).

Obvious. By some here have a tendency to run amok with any ambiguous thread.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#4090

by Brive1987 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:42 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ht..tps://mobile.twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1118886421333463041
I recall a typical TDS/jackass conversation here around Trump’s comment that pilots not computers should fly planes.

I believe the counter argument was something along the lines of “I live in Seattle and know Boeing people and Trump is clearly advocating a return to the Wright Bros. Ergo, Orange Man Bad”

FT has posted an interesting article on the main thread. By a pilot.
MCAS is implemented in the flight management computer, even at times when the autopilot is turned off, when the pilots think they are flying the plane. In a fight between the flight management computer and human pilots over who is in charge, the computer will bite humans until they give up and (literally) die.
In my Cessna, humans still win a battle of the wills every time. That used to be a design philosophy of every Boeing aircraft, as well, and one they used against their archrival Airbus, which had a different philosophy. But it seems that with the 737 Max, Boeing has changed philosophies about human/machine interaction as quietly as they’ve changed their aircraft operating manuals.
It is likely that MCAS, originally added in the spirit of increasing safety, has now killed more people than it could have ever saved. It doesn’t need to be “fixed” with more complexity, more software. It needs to be removed altogether.
Seems like sage advice. But the author probably lives on the east coast.
Troll gotta troll, eh? Still convinced that Trump was right to do a victory lap for the Mueller report? Because it seems Trump has changed his tune. And planes are still safer with computers, nor will a minority opinion change either Boeing or Airbus, both of whom probably know what they're doing. You may have noticed airline safety is not plunging in the decade plus that computers have been given a larger role in flying. But you're a sycophant; anything Trump says must be right, according to your "morality" and ethics, or lack thereof. By your comparison of me to PZ, you get compared to the Daily Stormer, with whom your only real disagreement is Jews.
Well that was cogent.



Mueller? Unlike Watergate and Mr Clinton, there is no underlying crime of collusion. No determination on weak sauce obstruction, not even an “I can’t indict, but if I could ....”. In fact I think we are down to ‘conspiracy to obstruct’ aren’t we? :lol: Lots of evidence on the other hand that Trump’s more mercurial tendencies are being held in check. I’m surprised more blue blooded patriots aren’t cheering this news about your President.

Actually I’m not.

Planes and trains? If overall airline safety is the determining factor, why investigate any crash or make changes? But I see you are still running the “Trump wants no computers of any nature on aircraft” line. Which makes discussion pointless. Bidirectional trolling?

CFB: “Boeing and Airbus, both of whom seem to know what they are doing”

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... dCGGKaRNol

Maybe you could ask your Boeing mates to address the actual article. You appear to have nothing to add.

.....

PZ vs Nazi equivalencies? Ignoring your competently executed “look a rabbit” wave, is there anything in PZ’s little upchuck you disagree with?

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