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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8248

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Hockey great, Don Cherry, fired from broadcasting job for complaining that immigrants don't buy poppy pins:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... t-comments

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8247

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:15 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:25 pm
Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?
Yes, quite a few years ago and I loved it. I went through a phase of Sven Hassel, Leo Kessler, and this which I thought was a more autobiographical choice But I read since that it wasn't really his own experiences, which cheapened it a bit for me.
cf. http://www.custermen.net/sajer/sajer3.htm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8246

by MarcusAu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:51 pm

So about this movie...how does it compare?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGbpbclYyQ

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8245

by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:25 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?
Yes, quite a few years ago and I loved it. I went through a phase of Sven Hassel, Leo Kessler, and this which I thought was a more autobiographical choice But I read since that it wasn't really his own experiences, which cheapened it a bit for me.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8244

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:44 pm

My report on MIDWAY:

[MILD SPOILERS]

About 80% satisfied.

Hardly any sappy or hokey moments, and that mostly justifiable exposition of young men, many with families, going into a very dangerous and likely -- especially that day -- fatal situation. The human element was shown for both Americans and Japanese, sometimes quite subtly yet powerfully. A few muted yet evocative mirroring of Japanese and American experiences and actions. None of the actors portraying the famous commanders go over the top; they do just fine. For better or worse, Yamamoto is depicted as tragic Hamlet type.

Visuals were very striking, especially when contrasting how small the planes were and how big the ships -- and how really big the ocean. The pilots' views of the dive bomb runs were stunning. Overall, SFX were near-perfectly realistic. (My GF asked how the planes taking off were filmed and was shocked when I told her it was all on a computer.)

The storyline kept close to historical events. Begins with Pearl Harbor, which sets the state of mind and strategic situation so Midway can be seen in perspective. IMO, a bit too much time spent on individual sailors at Pearl. Same for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo, though the sight of those B-25s on the carrier deck when no way in hell should they be on a carrier deck, was awesome. (I say this as someone who's been on two carrier decks and recently stood way too close to a taxiing B-25 at an air show.) Fortunately, Aaron Eckhart as Doolittle was not given enough lines for him to turn in his usual clunker of a performance. Dallying on director John Ford's presence on Midway during the battle was a distraction that added nothing.

Despite those complaints above, pacing was good, with sufficient down time interspersed with intense, chaotic battle scenes. (The GF reported extensive goosebumps and sweaty palms from the combat scenes.) The attacks on the first three Japanese carriers is presented near real-time, that is, in about eight minutes, and is just nuts. The decision to omit the attack on Yorktown, however, was puzzling, especially given the time spent on the Tokyo Raid digression. IMO, showing Yorktown's fate would've served as a poignant mirror to that of the Japanese carriers.

Minor quibble: it was impossible to tell who was flying off of which carrier.

Big disappointment: NO WILDCATS. Yes, we get a glimpse of Buffaloes taking off, but otherwise, you'd come away from the film thinking the Americans had no fighter planes in the Pacific that day.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8243

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:00 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
I'm pretty sure the Germans actually advanced into the Don basin in 1942.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:13 pm

One has a little hope again:


It's hard to get over prejudices. I don't care for Farage, who comes across as the classic sheepskin-coated secondhand car salesman. On the other hand, I don't see anything worthwhile for the UK if there is any form of pseudo-Brexit , so I have to applaud him for doing this.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:19 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:53 am
YouTube is wiping out, without pre-warning, any video referencing the whistle-blowers name. The one previously spread thru MSM. The now public figure. The dude at the centre of the current biggest story.

Cause that’s useful and appropriate for a platform rather than a publisher ....

Matt and Blonde had their Wednesday show nuked into perma-private mode. So they came back today with a ‘xxxx is not the whistler-blower’ tee shirt and fan picture background.

And got nuked 20 mins in.

They came back on a backup, continued their defiance and so far still draw breath.

https://i.imgur.com/qCsIuEn.jpg
It doesn't make much sense does it. If I had to guess I'd say it was because the whistleblower has a partisan history (which is true) and/or it's an attempt to maintain the threat narrative as in he's in physical danger from the evil Trumpers.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:15 am

It's pretty-crazy that Boomer Schiff released a hearing transcript, failing to redact Ciaramella's name, then, that-night, removed the posted transcript.

Quite similar to Boomer Giuliani butt-dialing a journalist-- talking about how someone named "Charles" doesn't have a strong fraud case/ because Charles didn't do due-dilligence. What's that about? Well... Giuliani's cronies are accused of ripping-off a guy named Charles-- for a half-million dollars-- in a fraudulent investment scheme.
Also-- more Boomer-dom-- a millennial instagram-influencer wannabe-reality-tv pot-vendor... appears to be a central figure in Giuliani being exposed:
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/10/who-is ... -identity/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Bhurzum » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:13 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8238

by Brive1987 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:53 am

YouTube is wiping out, without pre-warning, any video referencing the whistle-blowers name. The one previously spread thru MSM. The now public figure. The dude at the centre of the current biggest story.

Cause that’s useful and appropriate for a platform rather than a publisher ....

Matt and Blonde had their Wednesday show nuked into perma-private mode. So they came back today with a ‘xxxx is not the whistler-blower’ tee shirt and fan picture background.

And got nuked 20 mins in.

They came back on a backup, continued their defiance and so far still draw breath.

https://i.imgur.com/qCsIuEn.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:17 pm

NSW.

Sometimes you have to burn the town to save it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:22 pm

Bhurzum wrote: This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)
Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm

Bhurzum wrote: This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)
Damn. My french exchange family recommended that to me in the Paris airport as airplane reading on my way home when I was 14. Blew me away. Ever since, I keep two copies so I have one to give away because I've given away dozens and everyone I give it -- including several girlfriends and the latest my brother-in-law last xmas -- to ends up raving and recommending it to others.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:13 am

Pseudomonas wrote:
Catastrophic Fire Danger:

"For your survival, leaving early is the only option.
...
Homes are not designed to withstand fires in catastrophic conditions so you should leave early."

Basically, run away, because there's FA chance of stopping a fire when it gets going.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by BoxNDox » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:55 am

How the Insufferably Woke Help Trump - Democrats are insulting and condescending to the swing-state voters they need the most.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/opin ... trump.html

Some insight, but fails at the end:
Save the piety, the circular firing squad, the shaming on social media for after the election.
An actual attitude adjustment is required. Trying to hide your contempt isn't going to work, because people see through that in a flash.

The woke aren't as smart as they think, and the unwoke aren't as dumb as the woke believe.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8232

by Pseudomonas » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:07 am
Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t
For a more up to date map of what's burned, try https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-informa ... s-near-me . Unfortunately, the Queensland RFS map just gives the fire locations, not areas burnt, but we're copping it too.

And the Greater Sydney and Greater Hunter regions will hit 'Catastrophic' fire danger on Tuesday.

Catastrophic Fire Danger:

"For your survival, leaving early is the only option.
...
Homes are not designed to withstand fires in catastrophic conditions so you should leave early."

Basically, run away, because there's FA chance of stopping a fire when it gets going.

Brisbane only gets to 'Severe', two below Catastrophic over the next four days of forecasts.

Pseudomonas

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8231

by Bhurzum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:30 pm

Donkular is up to his old tricks...



The backlash in the thread is quite amusing and will probably burn for a few days.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8230

by Bhurzum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 pm

This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by BoxNDox » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:49 pm

screwtape wrote: In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.
Gustav Hasford's The Short-Timers is my personal favorite. Full Metal Jacket is based on it, but it's really quite different from the movie.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8228

by Lsuoma » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

screwtape wrote: In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.
Agree on all these, especially "Sagittarius Rising".

My favorite memoir of all, though, is "Undertones of War" by Edmund Blunden.

Graves' "Goodbye to all That" was, until recently, only available in the later, sanitized-to-avoid-libel-suits edition, but the original edition is now available. Both editions have a fair degree of exaggeration - Graves openly stated that he wrote it to make a lot of money, and, as Spike MIlligan put it, he "jazzed it up a little." Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger is a great memoir from the Hun perspective, while Under Fire by Henri Barbusse rounds out the Western Front experience by presenting a Froggie viewpoint.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:07 pm

In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8226

by Brive1987 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8225

by Brive1987 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Brewster Buffalo.

:bjarte:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8224

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:45 pm

John D wrote: Shit! I really wanted to like this movie... but... the history buff and engineer in me finds it to be unwatchable. I guess most movies have to have totally unrealistic battle scenes because everyone is watching fucking video games... and need a kind of spastic physical world. The planes pitch and turn at ridiculous rates.... they dive within a foot of their target (even flying under the tops of palm trees down a street). The density of the flack and the tracers is insane. It is all so comic that it makes me laugh. To bad. I loved Dunkirk.
Abbondanza

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8223

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:39 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Keating wrote: Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.
I saw it in the theaters, which included 30 minutes afterward of Jackson describing how the film was made. He mentions one clip of a group of soldiers in a sunken road. All of them had panic on their faces, especially the one in the forefront. They were about to go over and Jackson says the entire regt was wiped out. Had that one tommy's face in my head for days.

Seeing MIDWAY tomorrow with the GF. Critics' reviews tend to find it hokey and jingoistic, viewers' reviews love it. we shall see.

The 'teaser trailer', which feels like for a horror movie, kicks ass:

Shit! I really wanted to like this movie... but... the history buff and engineer in me finds it to be unwatchable. I guess most movies have to have totally unrealistic battle scenes because everyone is watching fucking video games... and need a kind of spastic physical world. The planes pitch and turn at ridiculous rates.... they dive within a foot of their target (even flying under the tops of palm trees down a street). The density of the flack and the tracers is insane. It is all so comic that it makes me laugh. To bad. I loved Dunkirk.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8222

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:32 am

How Dare You!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8221

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:30 am

Okay!
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8220

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:03 am

Keating wrote: Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.
I saw it in the theaters, which included 30 minutes afterward of Jackson describing how the film was made. He mentions one clip of a group of soldiers in a sunken road. All of them had panic on their faces, especially the one in the forefront. They were about to go over and Jackson says the entire regt was wiped out. Had that one tommy's face in my head for days.

Seeing MIDWAY tomorrow with the GF. Critics' reviews tend to find it hokey and jingoistic, viewers' reviews love it. we shall see.

The 'teaser trailer', which feels like for a horror movie, kicks ass:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8219

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:46 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8218

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:00 am

I am not sure I fully believe this woman. I think she knows more that she is saying. She is a TV producer and she has never heard of Project Veritas? Hmmmm. If feel sorry for her though. She was only on her new job for 4 days so she can be fired without cause. She probably wont even be able to sue for wrongful termination.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8217

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:50 am

"You fight wiff a woman... you rittle plick!"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8216

by Keating » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:47 am

Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8215

by KiwiInOz » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am

Lsuoma wrote: Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t
Yep. I'm currently in Lismore, NSW. The fires are miles away but the smoke is full on. And it's unlikely to change for days if not weeks.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8214

by Guest_04466d3b » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:15 am

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8213

by Brive1987 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:16 pm

MarcusAu wrote: So...ah...Milo is still alive - and it looks like like there are various changes happening in the Alt-Right.

Oh, and Richard Spencer has an optics problem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cCS1cP69Wo


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8212

by Service Dog » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:55 pm

Driftless wrote: Slate is doing well today. Here's something that can be solved by getting more trans women into sports:

https://slate.com/technology/2019/11/ma ... nners.html
If the fucking transwomen athletes really want to help the cause of trans acceptance... they'd fucking come in 2nd or 3rd place once in a while.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8211

by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:21 pm

Secret Service releases report on mass school attacks. Conclusions:
• Most attackers had experienced psychological, behavioral, or developmental symptoms;

• half 
of the attackers had received one or more mental health services prior to their attack;

• All attackers experienced social stressors involving their relationships with peers and/or romantic partners;

• Nearly every attacker experienced negative home life factors ... includ[ing] parental divorce or separation, drug use or criminal charges among family members, or domestic abuse;

• Most attackers had a history of school disciplinary actions, and many had prior contact with law enforcement: 
Most attackers had a history of receiving school disciplinary actions resulting from a broad range of inappropriate behavior

• All attackers exhibited concerning behaviors ... rang[ing] from a constellation of lower-level concerns to objectively concerning or prohibited behaviors;

• Most of the attackers communicated a prior threat to their target or communicated their intentions to carry out an attack.
The answer, of course, is to ban 'assault weapons'.
... attackers used 18 handguns and 9 long guns during the attacks, with two attackers using multiple firearms. The remainder [16] used bladed weapons....

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8210

by Service Dog » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:39 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8209

by MarcusAu » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:45 pm

So...ah...Milo is still alive - and it looks like like there are various changes happening in the Alt-Right.

Oh, and Richard Spencer has an optics problem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cCS1cP69Wo

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8208

by Driftless » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:30 am

Slate is doing well today. Here's something that can be solved by getting more trans women into sports:

https://slate.com/technology/2019/11/ma ... nners.html

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:04 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8206

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:59 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:07 am
Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t
Aussieland was made to burn. Those Port Jackson willows and bluegums are like candles. They grow like weeds after a fire which is why they are taking over in South Africa. The local fynbos is relatively fire resistant, but grows more slowly and loses out to Port Jacksons. So we are not only losing indigenous vegetation, its being replaced by a fire hazard. A few years ago I was living just out of the city and we had a spate of fires. Port Jacksons lay down a carpet of thin, very flammable leaves, so airborne embers create lots of new outbreaks. Just when you think you've got everything under control, you'll see a new column of smoke coming out of the bush. Sometimes the fire would smoulder unseen under the top layer of leaves for hours before flaring up. I''ve raked back the leaves from the edge of a fire to find that it's crept many metres under the surface.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8205

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:32 am

InfraRedBucket wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:12 am
At the risk of being a bit IOKWWDI, at least Zahawi did say to ask the man himself rather than try to answer for him and declare him unfit to be heard.
So he's possibly a potential mass murderer by implication (ask him about that ) but thankfully he's not declaring him unfit to to be heard...
how jolly decent of him .... :roll:
Yes, a lot more decent than declaring someone to be a fascist or white supremacist, telling outright lies about them and then campaigning to have them thrown off of mass media so that they can't defend themselves, which is what Labour love to do to people like Tommy Robinson, Waters and Carl Benjamin. I didn't say it was a smart or particularly nice thing to say. Do you have a problem with that, or is only total condemnation allowed without any mitigation?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8204

by InfraRedBucket » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:12 am

At the risk of being a bit IOKWWDI, at least Zahawi did say to ask the man himself rather than try to answer for him and declare him unfit to be heard.
So he's possibly a potential mass murderer by implication (ask him about that ) but thankfully he's not declaring him unfit to to be heard...
how jolly decent of him .... :roll:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8203

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:17 am

InfraRedBucket wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:25 am
SM1957 wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
SM1957 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Do you know who is literally Hitler in Britain right now?

People who say it is common sense to leave a burning building, rather than stay and get burned to death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/worl ... -mogg.html
Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
The firefighters who told people to stay and burn to death are not Hitler. The person who said it is common sense to leave a burning building is Hitler.

How is that even possible?
Since only you seem to have called them Hitler , then you've answered your own question. Other people simply criticized the remarks. Not leaving a burning building is counter intuitive but there are often good reasons why people are advised to behave counter intuitively in an emergency (eg moving a person in an accident with a potentially broken neck) The delayed decision to abandon the "stay put policy " in a defective building (after about 2 hours) is another matter.
Unless because Hitler was "an authority figure" and some might have in his day described him as " a very cleaver person running the country"
that makes RM literally Hitler , from the word of his own idiot supporters.
Jacob is a leader, he’s an authority figure,” Mr. Bridgen said in a radio interview, describing why Mr. Rees-Mogg would have made it out of the Grenfell fire alive. “We want very clever people running the country, don’t we?”
Bridgen soon after apologized for comparing Ree Mogg to Hitler....or summat liek that...
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ting-jacob



I'm definitely no fan of Corbyn - he's another idiot, but here's another "clever person running the country " who says Corbyn is actually Stalin:
Appearing on the Andrew Neil show on Wednesday night, the Business Minister struggled when the BBC interviewer brought up Boris Johnson’s comments comparing Jeremy Corbyn to Stalin on the grounds that he and his supporters hates wealth and aspiration so much that they ‘point their fingers at individuals with a relish and a vindictiveness not seen since Stalin persecuted the kulaks’.

When Neil suggested that this comparison didn’t hold up to scrutiny given that Stalin had people shot, Zahawi was unsure. Pressed on whether Corbyn really wants to have wealthy people shot, Zahawi replied:

‘I don’t know, you will have to ask him that question’

“I don’t know”
At the risk of being a bit IOKWWDI, at least Zahawi did say to ask the man himself rather than try to answer for him and declare him unfit to be heard. If only Corbyn were just an idiot. I'm afraid that he's a throwback to the days of Militant and union thuggery. The man never met an anti-Western despot he didn't like or a pro-Western democracy he did. He loves his bomb planting anti-imperialists, because look what we made the poor brown people do. The irony of it all, strangely seldom referred to, is that Jezza and his Trump hating cohorts are the real Putin sympathisers. I don't think I'm paranoid in suspecting that Corbyn in power would be a genuine security risk to the country.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8202

by Lsuoma » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:07 am

Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8201

by Driftless » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:40 am

Driftless wrote: Someone who loves Ken because of his genitals, not because of his gender:

https://jezebel.com/the-strange-sad-sto ... 1839221635

Why is this not called out as transphobic?
Is there a trend of these articles? Slate just published a slightly different take, but still upset about lack of genitalia:

https://slate.com/business/2019/11/matt ... sales.html

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8200

by Driftless » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:50 am

Someone who loves Ken because of his genitals, not because of his gender:

https://jezebel.com/the-strange-sad-sto ... 1839221635

Why is this not called out as transphobic?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8199

by SM1957 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:14 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
SM1957 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Do you know who is literally Hitler in Britain right now?

People who say it is common sense to leave a burning building, rather than stay and get burned to death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/worl ... -mogg.html
Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is accused of being arrogant for saying it is common-sense to leave a burning building , by the same people who think the 2016 Referendum should be ignored because people didn't know what they were voting for, and the more educated people voted to Remain.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8198

by screwtape » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:18 am

SM1957 wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
SM1957 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Do you know who is literally Hitler in Britain right now?

People who say it is common sense to leave a burning building, rather than stay and get burned to death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/worl ... -mogg.html
Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
The firefighters who told people to stay and burn to death are not Hitler. The person who said it is common sense to leave a burning building is Hitler.

How is that even possible?
I'm confused. Didn't Hitler die before leaving the building in order to be burned?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8197

by SM1957 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:17 am

I should point out that Jacob Rees-Mogg was not called 'Hitler' . He was called 'Himmler'.

And Seamus Milne, one of Corbyn's top aides, is a literal Stalinist - although one who concedes that Stalin did make some mistakes.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8196

by InfraRedBucket » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:25 am

SM1957 wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
SM1957 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Do you know who is literally Hitler in Britain right now?

People who say it is common sense to leave a burning building, rather than stay and get burned to death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/worl ... -mogg.html
Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
The firefighters who told people to stay and burn to death are not Hitler. The person who said it is common sense to leave a burning building is Hitler.

How is that even possible?
Since only you seem to have called them Hitler , then you've answered your own question. Other people simply criticized the remarks. Not leaving a burning building is counter intuitive but there are often good reasons why people are advised to behave counter intuitively in an emergency (eg moving a person in an accident with a potentially broken neck) The delayed decision to abandon the "stay put policy " in a defective building (after about 2 hours) is another matter.
Unless because Hitler was "an authority figure" and some might have in his day described him as " a very cleaver person running the country"
that makes RM literally Hitler , from the word of his own idiot supporters.
Jacob is a leader, he’s an authority figure,” Mr. Bridgen said in a radio interview, describing why Mr. Rees-Mogg would have made it out of the Grenfell fire alive. “We want very clever people running the country, don’t we?”
Bridgen soon after apologized for comparing Ree Mogg to Hitler....or summat liek that...
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ting-jacob



I'm definitely no fan of Corbyn - he's another idiot, but here's another "clever person running the country " who says Corbyn is actually Stalin:
Appearing on the Andrew Neil show on Wednesday night, the Business Minister struggled when the BBC interviewer brought up Boris Johnson’s comments comparing Jeremy Corbyn to Stalin on the grounds that he and his supporters hates wealth and aspiration so much that they ‘point their fingers at individuals with a relish and a vindictiveness not seen since Stalin persecuted the kulaks’.

When Neil suggested that this comparison didn’t hold up to scrutiny given that Stalin had people shot, Zahawi was unsure. Pressed on whether Corbyn really wants to have wealthy people shot, Zahawi replied:

‘I don’t know, you will have to ask him that question’

“I don’t know”

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8195

by MarcusAu » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:04 am

SM1957 wrote: The firefighters who told people to stay and burn to death are not Hitler. The person who said it is common sense to leave a burning building is Hitler.

How is that even possible?
Practice.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8194

by SM1957 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:29 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
SM1957 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Do you know who is literally Hitler in Britain right now?

People who say it is common sense to leave a burning building, rather than stay and get burned to death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/worl ... -mogg.html
Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
The firefighters who told people to stay and burn to death are not Hitler. The person who said it is common sense to leave a burning building is Hitler.

How is that even possible?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8193

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:56 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8192

by Hunt » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:21 pm

Cautionary financial tale for anyone interested:

Twenty years ago my mom bought a new car and must have opened a credit line at her bank to finance it. But, she never closed it and must not have paid the entire thing off, so maybe there was a few tens of dollars left in it. She also has a checking account there.

We only discovered the credit account because we went into the bank together to investigate her finances. So all this time she's been using the checking account, not knowing there was this little tumor of debt growing in this silent account. Guess what, it had grown to over $1000 and was accruing 20% interest. So next year it would be $1200 and next $1440, and so on.

We killed it with fire. Kids, don't let this happen to you.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8191

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Interview with Ray Blanchard on autgynephilia:

https://quillette.com/2019/11/06/what-i ... blanchard/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8190

by Service Dog » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:12 pm

Lsuoma wrote: Whole buncha Android users from a Huawei address. Blocked, and count will reduce soon.
This'll keep 'em out.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmn ... 0826022503

In Communist China, bot blocks you.

You-a-way.

Huawei

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8189

by MarcusAu » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:03 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Well it is really stupid to blame the public for obeying orders from firefighters in what was probably a highly confusing and disorienting circumstance. I like Mogg, but he can display a high degree of detachment from mere mortals.
He's definitely no common moggie. He probably also heard that the fire mark was not clearly displayed.

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