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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:26 am

Service Dog wrote: Wisconsin govt agency mandates mandatory facemasks for Zoom teleconference calls from home.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol ... 335232001/
If the internet is really a series of tubes then maybe you can catch the virus through the internet.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:25 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: I like Bret, but that's the type of Unity plan a ten-year-old would come up with.
They apparently will call the whole thing off if it looks like they'll lose. I'm not sure how they will determine that or how it works.

It also assumes that the President/VP have more power than they do. If congress refuses to work with them they won't get anything done.

I also don't see them getting any good press coverage.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:09 am




Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:57 am

Happy Birthday David Silverman

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:35 am

Service Dog wrote: Wisconsin govt agency mandates mandatory facemasks for Zoom teleconference calls from home.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol ... 335232001/
If anyone needed proof that a major motivation for mask mandates is the desire to compel performative virtue signaling and tribal affiliation signaling, this is it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:12 am

Service Dog wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 am
I concur with juggie's 'Barcelona' diagnosis & John D's comet comparison.
KiwiInOz wrote: The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?
To me-- this appears to conflate 3 or 4 ways of sneering at americans; which are mutually incompatible.

Strain #1 acknowledges that the US was the undeniably great in the 20th century-- but lamenting that US success will be short-lived. And the failure will be deserved because the uncultured US was unworthy of top-tier status.

Strain #2 denies US greatness-- painting the US as a sinister cabal, crushing the world-village with bombs and junkfood monoculture and bad economics. The fall of the US death machine is to be cheered, not lamented.

Strain #3 taunts the US for being such hapless rubes-- we can't shop for groceries without brawling over face masks. Which is incompatible with the admitting achievements of #1.

Strain #4 mocks our dumb & dumber two-party system, for lacking a parliament of additional choices. But this conflicts with #2-- reforming the US imperialist death-machine-- just makes it stronger. The rest of the world should hope we remain hopelessly deadlocked... and see the merciful wisdom in the design of our politics.

All 4 strains can be voiced around the same coffee-shop table, with everyone nodding-along. Heck, one person can say all 4 things-- without noting the contradictions. As long as the only purpose of the talk talk talk is Eric Berne/Games People Play/Transactional Analysis/ circle jerking... with the real subtext being "I wish America would stop winning"/ "Me too"/ "Me too"/ "Me too". But if the 4 talkers actually compete to see whose theory is correct-- they'll notice their puzzle pieces don't match.
I'm not sure which strain I represent. I do have a fondness for sneering at certain kinds of Merkin. Each country seems to produce it's own flavour of arrogant fuckwits and the US flavours are particularly noticeably as a consequence of cultural dominance. Power corrupts and the sins of the US are a consequence of that, but one has to take into account that a lot of those sins are committed with good intentions. As far as I am concerned America, and the West in general, are being demonised for practices which they did the most to eradicate from the world. They are being punished for raising people up economically and giving them the time and moral sensibilities to beat up on the West. It's that thing where being the first to admit the error of one's ways gives hypocrites license to point fingers. I'm getting sick and tired of being blamed for things as part of the white collective by identity groups who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of murder and crime against white people and their fellows. Sauce for the Steersman and all that.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:05 am

Wisconsin govt agency mandates mandatory facemasks for Zoom teleconference calls from home.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol ... 335232001/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:30 am

I like Bret, but that's the type of Unity plan a ten-year-old would come up with.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:26 am

KiwiInOz wrote: My friend's grandfather was one of the six generals captured and killed by the 30 September Movement militants in 1965.
In the movie version, 30 September was a failed communist coup attempt, against the dictator. Which was also the dictator's official version. Resulting in the dictator killing a half million people, as communists, with US backing. (Despite the overlap in perspective-- the movie was banned in Indonesia until 2000.)

But another theory sez the six generals were planning a coup against the dictator on Oct 5, so the lower-level officers who mutinied on 30 September-- were actually loyal to the dictator. Rather than being a coup-attempt, 30 September stopped a coup.

Yet another theory sez the dictator steered the whole thing-- to eliminate rivals & grassroots commies.

The intrigues are on a par with The Last Kingdom or Game of Thrones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Septem ... r_Movement

Do you have an opinion-- about what really happened?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 am

I concur with juggie's 'Barcelona' diagnosis & John D's comet comparison.
KiwiInOz wrote: The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?
To me-- this appears to conflate 3 or 4 ways of sneering at americans; which are mutually incompatible.

Strain #1 acknowledges that the US was the undeniably great in the 20th century-- but lamenting that US success will be short-lived. And the failure will be deserved because the uncultured US was unworthy of top-tier status.

Strain #2 denies US greatness-- painting the US as a sinister cabal, crushing the world-village with bombs and junkfood monoculture and bad economics. The fall of the US death machine is to be cheered, not lamented.

Strain #3 taunts the US for being such hapless rubes-- we can't shop for groceries without brawling over face masks. Which is incompatible with the admitting achievements of #1.

Strain #4 mocks our dumb & dumber two-party system, for lacking a parliament of additional choices. But this conflicts with #2-- reforming the US imperialist death-machine-- just makes it stronger. The rest of the world should hope we remain hopelessly deadlocked... and see the merciful wisdom in the design of our politics.

All 4 strains can be voiced around the same coffee-shop table, with everyone nodding-along. Heck, one person can say all 4 things-- without noting the contradictions. As long as the only purpose of the talk talk talk is Eric Berne/Games People Play/Transactional Analysis/ circle jerking... with the real subtext being "I wish America would stop winning"/ "Me too"/ "Me too"/ "Me too". But if the 4 talkers actually compete to see whose theory is correct-- they'll notice their puzzle pieces don't match.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:08 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies:
I wrote:Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president.

But I closely observed Kamala Harris' ruthless climb up the CA Dem party machine. She is utterly devoid of ethics, lacks a moral compass, has no sense of loyalty and will stab an ally in the back without hesitation. She has no regard for the rule of law, routinely having abused the power of her offices. She is vindictive, often sadistically so. Her only agenda is aquiring personal power. I believe her to be a clinical sociopath.

Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.
Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.
I have not looked at it, but Bret Weinstein has the Unity 2020 idea:

https://articlesofunity.org/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:29 am

KiwiInOz wrote: Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.
We've got the pink polo shirt option, the hawaiian shirt, it-just-means-anti-fascist-maaaaan, chimp-out at the shopping mall, QAnon, Pink Pussy Hats, Jesse Lee Peterson, Wall Of Karens, the Deep State, unfunny comedy show hosts for Progress, White celebrities singing 'Imagine', Farrakan, The Jews, The Squad, Incels, HIllary, Tekashi 6ix9ine. Plenty of options.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:15 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". However, I'll give him some credit for amusingly looking like a younger version of Skipper from Gilligan's Island.
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
Haha.... the old "End of the Republic" story.

Read your political history friends. There is a prediction that the US Republic is doomed to die every 4 years. And this has been true for 200 years. A relatively small problem like Covid, while it feels horrible to live through, is nothing compared to other problems the US has faced. For fucks sake... we made it through one of the biggest civil wars in history.

This reminds me of the religious fanatics that think the end times are coming every time a comet gets close to the Earth.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:28 am

justinvacula wrote: Lol PZ Myers....
...math has often been used to justify oppression, whether it’s that slaves only count as 3/5ths of a person...
PZ has it backwards. The slave-states were the ones who wanted to slaves to be counted as a full person. The northern states wanted the slaves to count not-count at-all.

To count slaves as five-fifths would give the slaves states more electoral college power & seats in the House of Representatives. (That's a strange thing for PZ to wish-for.)

And and and... the actual compromise proposal was "one Member for every thousand Inhabitants 3/5 of Blacks included." Three-fifths of a thousand people is 600 people. No need to amputate any individual blacks.

The delegates from South Carolina and Georgia proposed that blacks count fully, but that proposal was over-ruled.

The actual adopted wording was "three fifths of all other Persons".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:45 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.
So no change, then?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:36 am

When satire grabs you by the throat

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by Brive1987 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:25 am

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by Brive1987 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:42 am



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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:28 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
The Libertarian this year is even more whack-o than your usual libertarian: she echoes the 'systemic racism' claims, only her solution is to eliminate the system.

I don't know if Jo Jorgenson is a true woke believer, or the party believes it can best expand among the woke, but that's the direction they're going this year. In 2016, the LP nominees made the electorally disastrous decision to praise Clinton while denigrating Trump, so expansion strategies do not seem their forte. I suspect that despite 15-20% of the population being actively open to supporting a third party, the Libertarian Party this year will have its lowest percentage vote total ever and donations will dwindle to the point the future of the Party is at risk.

Right now, Jorgenson if so off the radar, when you do a Bing search of "Libertarian Party Leader", she turns up 21st in the "related people" list, behind Vermin Surpreme, Clint Eastwood, John McAfee, and some guy named Aubrey Dunn Jr. that doesn't even have a picture.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:48 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
You might call it tendentious twaddle written by an academic parasite, but that doesn't take anything away from the decline of American (sensu stricto USA) hegemony playing out across the world stage. The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?
I would think that nearly everyone on the Pit is competent enough in logic to know showing an argument is invalid doesn't prove the conclusion false, so your first sentence goes without saying. Did you post that link because you thought it was a well-presented argument, or just that you liked the conclusion? You would have been better off making the case yourself.

Although, maybe not, because your singling out of the mask issue seems to mark you as the sort of foreign anti-American satirized in the 1994 film Barcelona, where they wrongly assume the American issues that seem noisiest in their local circles are the active drivers of events.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:30 pm

Lol PZ Myers on David Silverman...witch of the week status once again

https://archive.is/XIN2A
Here we go again. David Silverman is racing rightwards, and is considering voting for Trump, because he doesn’t like the idea of defunding the police or what the Right are calling “Woke Math”.
Lol, is PZ on the defund the police bandwagon now?
Nobody changed, Dave. If you’re seriously considering voting Republican now, you were never on the side of the Left, which we should have figured out from all the CPAC chasing you were doing.
So now because David is considering Trump voting years ago when he was at CPAC he was a super secret Republican/lying? Lol they're still mad about CPAC.
Biden & Harris are very much center left politicians, so all the caterwauling about how radically socialist they are is absurd — the people I know who are unhappy with the Democratic candidates are rejecting them because they aren’t Left enough, which is actually an honest position.
Yah, Green New Deal, possibly banning fracking, BLM totally center left
They are explaining that math has often been used to justify oppression, whether it’s that slaves only count as 3/5ths of a person, or that the people of African nations have an average IQ of 70. Do you disagree?


No, it's not math that's oppressing, it's laws and attitudes.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:29 pm

Add Poland to the list of countries showing COVID-19 caused excess mortality is related to the severity of the past 2-3 flu seasons, and thus the relative proportion of near end-of-life people in the population who normally would have died of the flu in the previous few years. In Poland's case, they had 3 consecutive bad flu seasons, and no excess mortality due to COVID-19.
While there's not nearly enough evidence to confidently conclude it yet, if it turns out that SARS-CoV-2 was an only slightly worse than typical flu virus, and epidemiologists were fooled into thinking it was much deadlier than it actually was by not realizing the near end-of-life excess population, leading to a grotesque overreaction by nearly every country except Sweden, then a lot of people are going to look very stupid.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 pm

Service Dog wrote: I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)
I'm afraid it would be more akin to crossing the Event Horizon. Once in power (either by controlling both Houses of Congress or via abuse of executive orders) they will in short order:

-- Grant citizenship to all eleven million illegal immigrants ... which will turn out to be closer to thirty million;
-- Open the border to allow unlimited numbers of new registered Democrats illegal immigrants to enter and become instant citizens;
-- Declare DC a state;
-- Abolish the Electoral College.

To get around the unconstitutional aspect of these measures, they will:
-- Pack the Supreme Court.

And, Poof! Our Republic is gone. Sorry, Ben: we gave it go.

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by justinvacula » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 pm

Atheists for Trump? David Silverman reacts to Biden naming Harris with ‘Are You Serious?’ face, saying he might VOTE RED - Russia Today

https://www.rt.com/usa/497867-atheist-flips-to-trump/

Silverman's tweet: 31.4k likes :o

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:11 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.
No.

Kanye doesn't count.

The Libertarian this year is even more whack-o than your usual libertarian: she echoes the 'systemic racism' claims, only her solution is to eliminate the system.

The Greens should all be locked in padded cells. Then shot. Then ground into organic mulch. That last one is a mitzvah.

I expect a center-right populist party will arise sometime next year, with Tucker Carlson instrumental in its formation. I'm center-left, but it'd be better than the authoritarian radical left that the Dem party has become.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:44 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies:
I wrote:Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president.

But I closely observed Kamala Harris' ruthless climb up the CA Dem party machine. She is utterly devoid of ethics, lacks a moral compass, has no sense of loyalty and will stab an ally in the back without hesitation. She has no regard for the rule of law, routinely having abused the power of her offices. She is vindictive, often sadistically so. Her only agenda is aquiring personal power. I believe her to be a clinical sociopath.

Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.
Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:26 pm

Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies:
I wrote:Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president.

But I closely observed Kamala Harris' ruthless climb up the CA Dem party machine. She is utterly devoid of ethics, lacks a moral compass, has no sense of loyalty and will stab an ally in the back without hesitation. She has no regard for the rule of law, routinely having abused the power of her offices. She is vindictive, often sadistically so. Her only agenda is aquiring personal power. I believe her to be a clinical sociopath.

Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:13 pm

jugheadnaut wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". ...
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
I said it was a warning, not an ad hominem dismissal. I did actually read the first couple of paragraphs, and then skimmed another couple of paragraphs farther down and saw it was exactly the tendentious, pseudo-intellectual drivel I was expecting. My thanks to Service Dog for enacting the labor of a fuller demolition, and especially for showing what a lazy parasite this guy is.
Your definition of demolition and my definition are a little bit different. This is how I saw Service Dog's demolition play out.



You might call it tendentious twaddle written by an academic parasite, but that doesn't take anything away from the decline of American (sensu stricto USA) hegemony playing out across the world stage. The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 pm

...the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party...

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Service Dog wrote: top of the page nightmare fuel
Tulsi Gabbard still provides the gold standard in exorcisms of this particular demon.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Service Dog wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions.... probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are.
I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)

More Trump could = a Dem vs Repub civil war. But maybe a Biden win confines the civil war to within Left & Right of the Dem party.


(I'm halfway thru watching 'The Year Of Living Dangerously', tonite. Brink of civil war in Indonesia, between coldwar US-supported dictator, vs. starving Muslim Commie populist fanatics.)
My friend's grandfather was one of the six generals captured and killed by the 30 September Movement militants in 1965.

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:03 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions.... probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are.
I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)

More Trump could = a Dem vs Repub civil war. But maybe a Biden win confines the civil war to within Left & Right of the Dem party.


(I'm halfway thru watching 'The Year Of Living Dangerously', tonite. Brink of civil war in Indonesia, between coldwar US-supported dictator, vs. starving Muslim Commie populist fanatics.)

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:56 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". ...
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
I said it was a warning, not an ad hominem dismissal. I did actually read the first couple of paragraphs, and then skimmed another couple of paragraphs farther down and saw it was exactly the tendentious, pseudo-intellectual drivel I was expecting. My thanks to Service Dog for enacting the labor of a fuller demolition, and especially for showing what a lazy parasite this guy is.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:26 pm

fuzzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: without fucking up other stuff.
yes what eventually shut the old place down* was that they needed to set up a sewage plant to handle all the tourist stuff, and there may have been some bacterial leakage decades ago which raised some of bacteria levels downstream.

and as with all things everything is way way better than it was decades ago in the USA because we've been handling this stuff, despite what CNN wants you to read because that's all you ever read you a******

Hate to disappoint you, but I've spent years dealing with onerous and impractical regulations to keep my business activities going. It took a lifetime of hard work of work and investment to do it. It is frustrating and a gamble, but I kept at it and it has paid off for me.
The fact that I am a critic of Trump, an incompetent criminal that is doing damage to America and her allies doesn't mean I'm some kind of crazed leftist. I dislike Rachel Maddow as much as Sean Hannity.
So, at least I know where you stand.


















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: along with course many other abuses

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:52 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:00 pm
Sounds like everyone has decided on who they are going to vote for.
There is only one choice. I don't understand people. There are people who consider themselves rational (and superior to the rest of us) who cannot seem to understand that the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions, perhaps irreparably so if they get elected. Their lust for power and BAMN attitude is evident, if it wasn't three years ago. Trump is not the one wrecking the system. He governs within the constitution, whatever you think of his policy. The left show no reticence in tearing it down if it helps them in their power grab. While not perfect, the framers constructed the constitooshun in such a way that it survives bad presidents, but it probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are. And to think I celebrated the election of Obama. He accelerated the corruption of the security services, packed the courts with activists, engaged in mass surveillance of opponents, mushroomed the statute books and to top it all off, got raped by Putin when he believed his own bullshit and thought his magnificence would win Putin over if he gave him goodies. Uranium One was part of that process. Putin fucked the US over, their agents even laughing about how easy it was. The Russian collusion bullshit was intended to shift focus onto Trump and distract from who really screwed the Russia pooch.

Talking of complete and utter unawareness, Brian Stelter asks us where the Lefty equivalent of Fox News is. There are apparently no virulently anti-Trump media outlets. Is the man for real?

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by MarcusAu » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:38 pm

fuzzy wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:24 pm
So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.

Much like Li'l Abner himself, I consider Fearless Fosdick to be a role model and my personal hero...
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Beans!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:16 pm

Driftless wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:11 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Chicago BLM: "looting is a form of reparations"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntown.html
To all of the corporations who are in support of BLM: are you going to open up your buildings so that people can get "reparations"? You have insurance so it is OK.
Funny you should say that. Just saw a video of a truck driver in South Africa standing by the side of the road watching her crashed truck get looted. She was on the phone explaining, perhaps to the boss, that the cops were there but they'd told everyone to keep looting because it'd all have been insured.

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:14 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12666

by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:26 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: without fucking up other stuff.
yes what eventually shut the old place down* was that they needed to set up a sewage plant to handle all the tourist stuff, and there may have been some bacterial leakage decades ago which raised some of bacteria levels downstream.

and as with all things everything is way way better than it was decades ago in the USA because we've been handling this stuff, despite what CNN wants you to read because that's all you ever read you a******



*: along with course many other abuses

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12665

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:48 pm

fuzzy wrote: So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.
I've dipped my toe into the sportsfishing industry, working with lodges and doing guiding, making tackle for instance. I loved the work and did OK moneywise. Bass Pro people were around 25+ tears ago checking out the potential of the people I knew.
With any luck, they will create some jobs without fucking up other stuff.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:39 pm

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:24 pm

So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:21 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12661

by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:05 pm

It chooses you, you don't choose it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12660

by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:03 pm

Service Dog wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
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:bjarte:
Skux life, bro. Skux life.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:56 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:22 pm

jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". However, I'll give him some credit for amusingly looking like a younger version of Skipper from Gilligan's Island.
https://i2.wp.com/www.fr24news.com/a2/w ... C349&ssl=1
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:24 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12656

by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:08 pm

Thuh 'Merican Dweem, bebah

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12655

by Stankeye » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:33 pm

Well for some reason I wonder in this environment if this bombshell article from Matt Taibbi will actually have any affect.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-spies ... XUku1JHT2E

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:56 am

BoxNDox wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 am
Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.
The standard narrative smugly held right now by people who think they're being science-y is that it recently came to light that asymptomatic carriers can be infectious, hence children and the mask-less are huge disease vectors. Problem 1 with this is that it's not a new discovery; asymptomatic transmission is known to occur with most flu viruses. Problem 2 is the mental model they construct around it, where asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic carriers are basically fountains of virus-laden respiratory droplets and aerosol clouds.

In truth, these carriers emit very little virus and the great majority of transmission instances occur when a healthy person spends several minutes a short distance from or in an enclosed space with a fully symptomatic carrier. Hence you get highly counter-narrative scientific results like in this new paper, studying 23 family clusters in Greece. 60% of individuals per cluster contracted COVID-19 and while there was documented adult to adult and adult to child transmission, there wasn't a single case of child to child or child to adult transmission. This was because children tended to be asymptomatic or have a much lower viral load than adults (0 children developed serious illness, while 9% of adults did).

Or the results from Sweden, which kept their schools open throughout the pandemic. 0.05% of school children acquired COVID-19, with 0 deaths, and no increased risk for teachers over other professions.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:54 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:47 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:18 am

BoxNDox wrote: And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.
Are you referring to the girl, youngest Covid death in Oklahoma, who was also 3-years-into a systemic case of the incurable auto-immune disorder Scleroderma?
https://www.koco.com/article/family-rem ... g/33302589

"Systemic scleroderma can involve the skin, esophagus, gastrointestinal tract (stomach and bowels), lungs, kidneys, heart and other internal organs. It can also affect blood vessels, muscles and joints. The tissues of involved organs become hard and fibrous, causing them to function less efficiently." "SSc carries a survival rate of only 55% at 10 years postdiagnosis—the highest risk of fatality among connective tissue diseases."

That girl "never had a cough or fever", according to her mother:
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/it-happ ... s-1.637822

The family says they wore masks, observed social distancing, stayed home, avoided crowds.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:56 am

BoxNDox wrote: Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.
That's been true forever for an host of infectious diseases, including the seasonal flu. So why shut down schools for a virus with a 0.15 IFR when we never did for ones with 0.10 IFRs?

And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.
The kids who drown with some regularity in the river down the hill from me aren't any less dead for having been bad swimmers.

We should probably ban swimming, I guess.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by BoxNDox » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 am

Service Dog wrote: I had an unsettling experience, a few days ago. My brother & I rarely speak to each other. We talked on the phone. Conversation shifted to facemasks. He has a PhD in archeology & is fine with his university's mask rules... masks all the time everywhere on campus... even outdoors... even if no one is within 50 feet. His university is in a high-altitude dry desert, hot year-round, with plenty of space. Even on his archeology digs-- students will social distance and wear masks at all times. Seems excessive to me.

Over the years-- he has been kicked-hard by the university bureaucrats-- but he completely trusts their wisdom in this policy. Is hostile to my skepticism..

Then we talked-about his son's kindergarten's rules.

I said children aren't at much risk. He said I should look up the 85 infants "on respirators" in Nueces County, Texas.

I already knew about that-- it's fake news.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=553&p=497317&hilit=nueces#p497317

He became exasperated with me. More-so for being right, than if I had been wrong. We probably won't talk again for quite a while.

Conflicts like this gnaw at me-- but I shake-it-off more easily than he does. He's more prone to high-bloodpressure anger & grudges. I think back to a formative time when I walked away from our parents' bullshit-- was free but outcast. He compromised & salvaged their relationship-- but at a cost to his mental autonomy. I'm cooler & more distant-- he takes things personally, gets tangled-up.

I hate that we live in a time of psyops-- designed to exploit & heighten the differences between people-like-him & people-like-me. Divide us, to amass power & control.
Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.

And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:11 am

Service Dog wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Kellyanne Conway is still working with Trump and she has said worse about him and they have ben working together the last 4 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7sa7EeUGc
Wow. Kellyanne Conway said those things "about Trump", eh?

Nope.

Your ad misrepresents Kellyanne's comments about Biden, as-if she were referring to Trump.

The Independent.co.uk:
The two-minute clip uses comments made by Kellyanne Conway against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 11521.html
You're right. I thought she said it while she was still working for Cruz and was still being honest about Trump.
https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-tru ... ews-pundit

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by AndrewV69 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:51 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:50 am

I confess though.... ftp.... listening to Trump pronounce yoh-semite is really funny. It is like he a performing a rap song for Jewish people.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:46 am

Once again.... and it is proven almost ever day..... ftp = commie baboon.

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