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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:41 pm

Does alcohol count as a drug?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:48 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:23 pm
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... oing-biden

Doesn't sound like anyone was pressuring Lutsenko to not investigate Burisma/ Biden. He seems to say something different, in that there was nothing to investigate.
It seems you Ever Trumpers will just ignore the evidence you don't want to believe. :P
Are you on drugs?

That article is about Lutsenko's rebuff of Guiliani's 2019 request that he investigate the Bidens. Of Yovanovitch's 2016 request to not investigate Burisma, it only says in passing: "[h]e also complained about Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador to Kyiv...."

There was, in fact, plenty to investigate Burisma on, as it was credibly accused of money laundering.

And, while Hunter Biden joined the company years after the alleged money laundering, it is fair to question whether the VP's son getting a lucrative position at that company, especially under the circu, is an ethical and possibly constitutional violation.

And it's a fair question whether the US ambassador allegedly pressuring the Ukrainian Prosecutor General to not investigate the VP's son's company is 'problematic'.

And it's a fair question whether Trump or his henchmen allegedly pressuring the Ukrainian president to open investigations into the Bidens was unethical or possibly unconstitutional.

But those are four separate questions, yet you seem incapable of not conflating all four. So again, are on drugs?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:32 pm

Rep. Devin Nunez (R-CA) pauses to sip from a Sweetheart Cup Company "Solo Jazz" 16 ounce waxed-paper relic, like it's 1992.

90's Kid colleagues do a double-take.

https://i.redd.it/flanjsh2ryz31.png

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 10/1a5.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:23 pm

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... oing-biden

Doesn't sound like anyone was pressuring Lutsenko to not investigate Burisma/ Biden. He seems to say something different, in that there was nothing to investigate.
It seems you Ever Trumpers will just ignore the evidence you don't want to believe. :P
In a few months when the deep state swears in President Pelosi you will probably be deported to Russia anyways.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:55 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
...As far as Solomon goes, The Hill not only fired him but is discussing editing his past columns because of the numerous inaccuracies.
Don't be such an NPC... think about what you're repeating. Yeah-- you can seize on The Hill's internal email-- & use it to pretend everything Solomon ever said is false.

One could as-easily interpret The Hill's email the opposite way: they've gone-back & reviewed Solomon's old columns-- & anything they haven't amended-- is, upon review, now confirmed to be 100% true.

For me-- Solomon conforms to my pet-theory-- that Democrats cry foul-- when opponents dare use the Dems' standard-operating-procedures against the Dems.

For example, today, CNN has a story-- posted high atop Google news-- titled "The huge Gordon Sondland revelation almost everyone missed" https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/politics ... index.html If you read the story... it makes a big deal out of Sondland saying that the requirement for Ukraine to release aid... was to announce an investigation into Burisma/the Bidens. "Not conduct the investigation. Not prosecute anyone. Just announce it." CNN would have you believe that this is a huuuuuuge smoking gun... that there's something untoward about conditioning a quid pro quo-- on an announcement.

But, again, stop & think: it would be far more inappropriate for Trump/the U.S. to demand a specific outcome to an investigation/ than to merely call for the investigation. Demanding a prosecution before the investigation begins-- would violate every principle of justice! The overzealous interpretation of words-- into a feverish talking-point... is Standard Operationg Procedure for Rachel Maddow, AOC, or Schiff. But if Solomon dares base his op-eds on equally-flimsy reasoning-- then Only He should be ignored, according to FTP & Co.

C'mon Man!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:55 pm

The things that you find.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:54 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Matt: Your source is from February of this year
John Solomon wrote: Lutsenko reaffirmed he stood by his statements again in September.
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and from Solomon who I don't believe as far as I can throw him.
Are you claiming that Solomon fabricated that quote from Lutsenko?

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Just try googling Lutsenko changes story. There are dozens of sources.
How about you show us where Lutsenko recanted his claim that the US ambassador told him not to investigate Burisma?

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Also where is your source that Yovanavitch told Lutsenko he shouldn't investigate Biden?
Lutsenko, duh. I linked his interview where he originally made the claim, and Solomon's quote of Lutsenko reaffirming it can be found in the link that Service Dog provided.

Also it was Burisma, not Hunter Biden.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:50 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. NZ moved on this some time ago and it has enriched the culture. Australia is a laggard in terms of assimilating indigenous culture into its psyche and it is poorer for it.
So you have acknowledged the 'Womble People' to reduce 'Bice' then.
When in Rome ...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:47 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. NZ moved on this some time ago and it has enriched the culture. Australia is a laggard in terms of assimilating indigenous culture into its psyche and it is poorer for it.
So you have acknowledged the 'Womble People' to reduce 'Bice' then.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:55 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: [img..]https://i.imgur.com/Xm3pPXx.jpg[/img]

Sydney is fucked again now approaching 40%. Once more we are back to having to use buckets to water gardens and only before 10:00am.

Between 1998 and 2019 the population increased by over 2 million people. Mostly via immigration. On the driest continent on earth. Rocket science in action.

From 2006 - “In 1998 Sydney was predicted to reach between 4.7 and 6.2 million by the middle of this century. It is currently around 5.1 million and will reach the higher forecast within a decade, 23 years early.”
https://mccrindle.com.au/insights/bloga ... opulation/
Sending you thoughts and prayers, Brive.
Just what I’d expect from Brisvegas. ;)

Your turn will come.
We already have you Mexicans coming up here and inflating our house prices. Build the wall already.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:54 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:28 pm
I wonder if America has this level of creepy shit going on in schools, conference halls, sports fields and boardrooms

‪Australia’s Xinjiang re-education camps ....‬

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. NZ moved on this some time ago and it has enriched the culture. Australia is a laggard in terms of assimilating indigenous culture into its psyche and it is poorer for it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:35 pm

Matt: Your source is from February of this year and from Solomon who I don't believe as far as I can throw him.
Just try googling Lutsenko changes story. There are dozens of sources.
Also where is your source that Yovanavitch told Lutsenko he shouldn't investigate Biden?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:24 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/yovano ... 1573829953
Mr. Lutsenko gave an interview to the Hill earlier this year in which he said that Ms. Yovanovitch had given him a list of people not to prosecute, an allegation that the State Department dubbed an “outright fabrication.” Though Mr. Lutsenko later recanted, Mr. Trump’s allies called Ms. Yovanovitch disloyal, and she was ousted as ambassador in April.
The not exactly pinko WSJ seems to contradict your source whatever that is. As far as Solomon goes, The Hill not only fired him but is discussing editing his past columns because of the numerous inaccuracies.
Repeating the word "recanted" over and over again does not make it so. Lutsenko to this day stands by his allegation that Yovanovitch [verbally] issued him a "do not prosecute" list.

Solomon reports Lutsenko telling him:
“At no time since our interview have I ever retracted the statement I made about the U.S. ambassador providing me a list of names of people and organizations she did not want my office to prosecute. Shortly after my televised interview with your news organization I was asked by a Ukraine reporter if I had a copy of the letter that Ambassador Yovanovitch provided me with the names of those she did not want prosecuted. The reporter misunderstood how the names were transmitted to me. I explained to the reporter that the Ambassador did not hand me a written list but rather provided the list of names orally over the course of a meeting.”
By all means, the media should report that the State Dept denies Lutsenko's allegation. But to report that Lutsenko has 'recanted' that allegation is a flat out lie.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:03 pm

Driftless wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:28 pm
I wonder if America has this level of creepy shit going on in schools, conference halls, sports fields and boardrooms

‪Australia’s Xinjiang re-education camps ....‬

I think it is happening at the college level in North America. It seems to have started in Canada and is moving south. I wouldn't be surprised if it is making its way into lower grades since the schools of education seem to be 100% infected with social justice.

What is the point of it? Is anyone proposing to give land back? Or is it just a way to make people feel guilty for something they had no part in.
I recall it starting in Canada at public events about 4-5 years ago. I think the tide is turning, though. Early on, the response from the audience tended to be politely respectful. But now, I'm generally seeing a lot of fidgeting and barely contained grumbling when the Land Acknowledgement virtue signalling starts. Even the reliably left-biased CBC aired a satire on one of its comedy programs recently:



I suspect they'll soon be quietly relegated to a single announcement at the start of a season or festival, and hopefully will eventually become the domain of explicitly left-wing gatherings only.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:27 pm

So the deep state has gotten to you too. SMH
:lol:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:25 pm

That should have read "Parnas may be about to change his story".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by katamari Damassi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:17 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging.

I find it quite astonishing that you think the MSM "make mistakes" or are just biased. They jump on unverified smears at lightspeed, omit inconvenient facts and generally behave like PR firms for their favoured politicians. At this point I find Fox to be a more balanced news source than CNN, and Fox pushes out a stream of propaganda.
[....]
Everything inconvenient is automatically "debunked", a "hoax" or a "nothingburger". In the end I'd prefer not to believe lies however much of a visceral contempt I have for a particular political party.
Mediamatters, which FTP cites, falsely reported that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko "recanted" his earlier claim that obama's ambassador presented a list of companies -- including Burisma -- they did not want Lutsenko to investigate. Lutsenko has been quite explicit that the 'list' was presented to him verbally. Since the obama administration telling a foreign state to not investigate alleged corruption by one of its own companies which happens to have the VP's son on its board, is a clear conflict of interest and a likely violation of the emoluments clause, the Dems' outrage over trump's verbal innuendoes seems like the pot calling the kettle black. But partisan Mediamatters steps up by mendaciously focusing on the non-existence of a written list. It's outright deceit.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/yovano ... 1573829953
As Mr. Lutsenko's patron, Ukraine's then-president, Petro Poroshenko, began losing altitude in the polls ahead of pivotal elections, Mr. Lutsenko began meeting with President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. He openly told fellow Ukrainians the U.S. embassy was undermining Mr. Trump and was supportive of rival Democrats, according to Mr. Kent.

Mr. Lutsenko gave an interview to the Hill earlier this year in which he said that Ms. Yovanovitch had given him a list of people not to prosecute, an allegation that the State Department dubbed an “outright fabrication.” Though Mr. Lutsenko later recanted, Mr. Trump’s allies called Ms. Yovanovitch disloyal, and she was ousted as ambassador in April.
The not exactly pinko WSJ seems to contradict your source whatever that is. As far as Solomon goes, The Hill not only fired him but is discussing editing his past columns because of the numerous inaccuracies.
So the deep state has gotten to you too. SMH

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:11 pm

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lev-parna ... stigations
Giuliani's is about to change his story, perhaps even more frastically than Lutsenko did. Regardless of how untrustworthy he is as a source in my opinion, it might be interesting.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging.

I find it quite astonishing that you think the MSM "make mistakes" or are just biased. They jump on unverified smears at lightspeed, omit inconvenient facts and generally behave like PR firms for their favoured politicians. At this point I find Fox to be a more balanced news source than CNN, and Fox pushes out a stream of propaganda.
[....]
Everything inconvenient is automatically "debunked", a "hoax" or a "nothingburger". In the end I'd prefer not to believe lies however much of a visceral contempt I have for a particular political party.
Mediamatters, which FTP cites, falsely reported that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko "recanted" his earlier claim that obama's ambassador presented a list of companies -- including Burisma -- they did not want Lutsenko to investigate. Lutsenko has been quite explicit that the 'list' was presented to him verbally. Since the obama administration telling a foreign state to not investigate alleged corruption by one of its own companies which happens to have the VP's son on its board, is a clear conflict of interest and a likely violation of the emoluments clause, the Dems' outrage over trump's verbal innuendoes seems like the pot calling the kettle black. But partisan Mediamatters steps up by mendaciously focusing on the non-existence of a written list. It's outright deceit.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/yovano ... 1573829953
As Mr. Lutsenko's patron, Ukraine's then-president, Petro Poroshenko, began losing altitude in the polls ahead of pivotal elections, Mr. Lutsenko began meeting with President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. He openly told fellow Ukrainians the U.S. embassy was undermining Mr. Trump and was supportive of rival Democrats, according to Mr. Kent.

Mr. Lutsenko gave an interview to the Hill earlier this year in which he said that Ms. Yovanovitch had given him a list of people not to prosecute, an allegation that the State Department dubbed an “outright fabrication.” Though Mr. Lutsenko later recanted, Mr. Trump’s allies called Ms. Yovanovitch disloyal, and she was ousted as ambassador in April.
The not exactly pinko WSJ seems to contradict your source whatever that is. As far as Solomon goes, The Hill not only fired him but is discussing editing his past columns because of the numerous inaccuracies.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:26 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
In fact, Shokin told me in an interview he was making plans to interview Burisma board members, including Hunter Biden, at the time he was fired. And it was publicly reported that in February 2016, a month before Shokin was fired, that Ukrainian prosecutors raided one of Zlochevsky’s homes and seized expensive items like a luxury car as part of the corruption probe. You can read a contemporaneous news report about the seizure here.
Solomon uncritically parrots Shokin a proven crook and liar:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47001.html

Also:
Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings.[13][34][35] However, Vitaly Kasko, who had been Shokin's deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.[36][37] Also, the investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company.[38]
'Investigation was dormant' is not the same as 'Burisma was exonerated'. And how dormant could have really been if the PGO was seizing assets and records of Burisma's CEO?

Whether the alleged corruption occurred before Hunter Biden joined the firm is irrelevant. Had Burisma been found guilty and punished, it would've directly affected Hunter financially. As already noted, the US ambassador telling the Ukrainian prosecutor general to refrain from investigating the VP's son's company, is all sorts of wrong.

Since you haven't addressed any of Solomon's other assertions, I'll assume you accept them, and the evidence he provides for them, as valid.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:11 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging.
I find it quite astonishing that you think the MSM "make mistakes" or are just biased. They jump on unverified smears at lightspeed, omit inconvenient facts and generally behave like PR firms for their favoured politicians. At this point I find Fox to be a more balanced news source than CNN, and Fox pushes out a stream of propaganda.
[....]
Everything inconvenient is automatically "debunked", a "hoax" or a "nothingburger". In the end I'd prefer not to believe lies however much of a visceral contempt I have for a particular political party.
Mediamatters, which FTP cites, falsely reported that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko "recanted" his earlier claim that obama's ambassador presented a list of companies -- including Burisma -- they did not want Lutsenko to investigate. Lutsenko has been quite explicit that the 'list' was presented to him verbally. Since the obama administration telling a foreign state to not investigate alleged corruption by one of its own companies which happens to have the VP's son on its board, is a clear conflict of interest and a likely violation of the emoluments clause, the Dems' outrage over trump's verbal innuendoes seems like the pot calling the kettle black. But partisan Mediamatters steps up by mendaciously focusing on the non-existence of a written list. It's outright deceit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:47 am

or are they "nor are they"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:45 am

This conversation circled-back to where it began: My attention was drawn to Solomon's article when republican Devin Nunes used his impeachment statement-time to urge people to read Solomon's article "and draw your own conclusions". Then I posted the link here. And Free_thoughtpolice responded by repeating the very-same anti-Trump talking-points which Nunes acknowledged & disputed... moments-before Nunes recommended that everyone read Solomon's article & each draw our own conclusions.

Maybe I'll get my lulz by taking us for another lap around the circle-- by mindlessly-repeating-after Nunes & recommending that everyone read Solomon's article-- click on the primary source links Solomon offered-- and draw your own conclusions.

FWIW, I think everything Giuliani touches turns to shit-- he's like Grima Wormtongue whispering in the King's ear in Lord of the Rings-- and Trump invited disaster by associating himself with Giuliani. The Hill & Solomon also put themselves at-risk when they use Giuliani as a source... but the way to manage that risk is not to eschew Giuliani altoghther-- but rather to apply journalistic best-practices... to make-sure the info Giuliani provides is either vetted for truth-- or-else clearly-marked as coming-from Giuliani/ rather than labeled as factual reporting by The Hill. I don't see evidence that the Hill failed to do this in the past-- or are they being negligent about re-fact-checking Solomon's Giuliani-sourced writing-- as new facts emerge over time.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:17 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
Rudy Giuliani used to quote Lutsenko before he changed his story, then decided Lutsenko was a dem operative. Lutsenko's later statement directly contradicted many of the biggest claims Solomon made.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... g-n1060941
Another Solomon source is the now indicted Lev Parnas, who shares lawyers with Solomon (the crackpot husband and wife team of DiGenova and Toensing).
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging. It's like saying Hitler was an exact equivalent to Churchill because both men did bad things. I've followed Solomon's "opinion pieces" on the Hill for some time before he got his lying ass fired. He is about as much of a journalist as Alex Jones. The publisher of the Hill, Finkleman , a long time friend of Trump, hired Solomon to get some more "conservative" audience. Solomon's pieces went from"fact" pieces to opinion on the publication and eventually his writing was so badly discredited they gave him the boot.
I find it quite astonishing that you think the MSM "make mistakes" or are just biased. They jump on unverified smears at lightspeed, omit inconvenient facts and generally behave like PR firms for their favoured politicians. At this point I find Fox to be a more balanced news source than CNN, and Fox pushes out a stream of propaganda. Ask the Covington kids how honest the MSM are, ask any Gamergater, ask some of the victims of sexual assault accusations in Canada. Look at the way the MSM have played ball with the Democrats in creating dishonest representations of political rallies to sideline candidates. Do you think the MSM are just incapable of reporting the truth behind migrant caravans, the true extent of George Soros's political meddling or factually representing Antifa? Do you think they all really believe Andy Ngo is "far right"? They go beyond bias to the point where they relentlessly push one side of a story when the weight of available evidence goes the other way. Would you count your fingers after shaking hands with Jeff Zucker or Brian Stelter? I would. As for Solomon, if I get the time I will look harder for evidence of dishonesty. I'll also look for other sources of his claims, because you sure as hell won't get from the MSM. Everything inconvenient is automatically "debunked", a "hoax" or a "nothingburger". In the end I'd prefer not to believe lies however much of a visceral contempt I have for a particular political party.
I don't give credence to any of the infotainment/ opinion pieces regardless of media. As for CNN or Fox being worse, Fox has lost one of their few real journalists when Shep Smith quit recently. They still have Chris Wallace and Baier, but the rest of the channel is just horrible. Hannity, Pirro and their ilk make the worst of the lefties like Rachel (gag) Maddow look good.
Regardless, Solomon is as much of a reliable investigative journalist as Alex Jones.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:00 am

Service Dog wrote:
And-- who cares if the investigation "only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company" ? If Burisma did corrupt shit-- and afterward hired Hunter Biden to use his influence to get Burisma out-of-trouble... that's still bad & reflects poorly on Biden.
I agree that this reflects poorly on Hunter Biden and that he was hired because of his name.
About the sources, Shokin is the best of a bad bunch as unreliable as he is. Parnas and Firtash are gangsters with Kremlin connections that are passing along propaganda that Solomon is eagerly lapping up and reporting as fact.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:20 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:28 pm
I wonder if America has this level of creepy shit going on in schools, conference halls, sports fields and boardrooms

‪Australia’s Xinjiang re-education camps ....‬

I think it is happening at the college level in North America. It seems to have started in Canada and is moving south. I wouldn't be surprised if it is making its way into lower grades since the schools of education seem to be 100% infected with social justice.

What is the point of it? Is anyone proposing to give land back? Or is it just a way to make people feel guilty for something they had no part in.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:00 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
Rudy Giuliani used to quote Lutsenko before he changed his story, then decided Lutsenko was a dem operative. Lutsenko's later statement directly contradicted many of the biggest claims Solomon made.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... g-n1060941
Another Solomon source is the now indicted Lev Parnas, who shares lawyers with Solomon (the crackpot husband and wife team of DiGenova and Toensing).
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging. It's like saying Hitler was an exact equivalent to Churchill because both men did bad things. I've followed Solomon's "opinion pieces" on the Hill for some time before he got his lying ass fired. He is about as much of a journalist as Alex Jones. The publisher of the Hill, Finkleman , a long time friend of Trump, hired Solomon to get some more "conservative" audience. Solomon's pieces went from"fact" pieces to opinion on the publication and eventually his writing was so badly discredited they gave him the boot.
I find it quite astonishing that you think the MSM "make mistakes" or are just biased. They jump on unverified smears at lightspeed, omit inconvenient facts and generally behave like PR firms for their favoured politicians. At this point I find Fox to be a more balanced news source than CNN, and Fox pushes out a stream of propaganda. Ask the Covington kids how honest the MSM are, ask any Gamergater, ask some of the victims of sexual assault accusations in Canada. Look at the way the MSM have played ball with the Democrats in creating dishonest representations of political rallies to sideline candidates. Do you think the MSM are just incapable of reporting the truth behind migrant caravans, the true extent of George Soros's political meddling or factually representing Antifa? Do you think they all really believe Andy Ngo is "far right"? They go beyond bias to the point where they relentlessly push one side of a story when the weight of available evidence goes the other way. Would you count your fingers after shaking hands with Jeff Zucker or Brian Stelter? I would. As for Solomon, if I get the time I will look harder for evidence of dishonesty. I'll also look for other sources of his claims, because you sure as hell won't get from the MSM. Everything inconvenient is automatically "debunked", a "hoax" or a "nothingburger". In the end I'd prefer not to believe lies however much of a visceral contempt I have for a particular political party.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:43 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:58 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: [img..]https://i.imgur.com/Xm3pPXx.jpg[/img]

Sydney is fucked again now approaching 40%. Once more we are back to having to use buckets to water gardens and only before 10:00am.

Between 1998 and 2019 the population increased by over 2 million people. Mostly via immigration. On the driest continent on earth. Rocket science in action.

From 2006 - “In 1998 Sydney was predicted to reach between 4.7 and 6.2 million by the middle of this century. It is currently around 5.1 million and will reach the higher forecast within a decade, 23 years early.”
https://mccrindle.com.au/insights/bloga ... opulation/
Sending you thoughts and prayers, Brive.
Just what I’d expect from Brisvegas. ;)

Your turn will come.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:19 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Which of the assertions in Dog's link are false, and which of Solomon's citations are 'jokes'?
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Solomon uncritically parrots Shokin a proven crook and liar:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47001.html
My understanding is that the corruption investigation against Shokin was dropped & his seized property was returned. I buy that Shokin wasn't an angel-- at minimum he was about-as-corrupt as, say, Diane Feinstein during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. On the other hand-- Shokin survived an assassination attempt: 3 bullets in his office window. So the anti-Shokin forces aren't bastions of purity, either. So where's the proof of Shokin's corruption? As far as I can tell, the corruption claims against him stopped-- when he retired & stopped investigating Burisma.

The source which the Independent relies-on in their anti-Shokin article-- "faced a corruption investigation himself."
Does that mean the Independent "uncritically parrots ... a proven crook and liar" too?
free thoughtpolice wrote: Also:
Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings.[13][34][35] However, Vitaly Kasko, who had been Shokin's deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.[36][37] Also, the investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company.[38]
Clearly Burisma didn't consider Shokin's investigation to be dormant: as soon as Shokin was removed/ Burisma arranged to meet Shokin's successor, lobbying for the investigation to Become Dormant.

And-- who cares if the investigation "only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company" ? If Burisma did corrupt shit-- and afterward hired Hunter Biden to use his influence to get Burisma out-of-trouble... that's still bad & reflects poorly on Biden.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8340

by KiwiInOz » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:41 pm

Brive1987 wrote: https://i.imgur.com/Xm3pPXx.jpg

Sydney is fucked again now approaching 40%. Once more we are back to having to use buckets to water gardens and only before 10:00am.

Between 1998 and 2019 the population increased by over 2 million people. Mostly via immigration. On the driest continent on earth. Rocket science in action.

From 2006 - “In 1998 Sydney was predicted to reach between 4.7 and 6.2 million by the middle of this century. It is currently around 5.1 million and will reach the higher forecast within a decade, 23 years early.”
https://mccrindle.com.au/insights/bloga ... opulation/
Sending you thoughts and prayers, Brive.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8339

by Brive1987 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:28 pm

I wonder if America has this level of creepy shit going on in schools, conference halls, sports fields and boardrooms

‪Australia’s Xinjiang re-education camps ....‬

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8338

by Brive1987 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:05 pm

https://i.imgur.com/Xm3pPXx.jpg

Sydney is fucked again now approaching 40%. Once more we are back to having to use buckets to water gardens and only before 10:00am.

Between 1998 and 2019 the population increased by over 2 million people. Mostly via immigration. On the driest continent on earth. Rocket science in action.

From 2006 - “In 1998 Sydney was predicted to reach between 4.7 and 6.2 million by the middle of this century. It is currently around 5.1 million and will reach the higher forecast within a decade, 23 years early.”
https://mccrindle.com.au/insights/bloga ... opulation/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8337

by screwtape » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:13 pm

And now Prince Andrew has fulfilled all of the potential he ever seemed to have. Someone really ought to tell him that adrenaline makes you sweat, and doesn't prevent it, never mind the fact it's bloodstream half-life is 2 minutes, and any from the Falklands in 1982 would probably be gone by Epstein time in 1999. The only conceivable connection I can think of would be if he was treated for PTSD with an alpha-blocker like prazosin, but that wasn't even postulated as a possible treatment until 2003. My view is that he should take the black and join the Night's Watch.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8336

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:34 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:
John Solomon is a conspiracy theorist/ propagandeer that was fairly recently fired from The Hill. He has been thoroughly debunked on many of his stories over and over.

His sources are a joke. Talk about MSM fake news. This guy isw a fiction writer.
Which of the assertions in Dog's link are false, and which of Solomon's citations are 'jokes'?
In fact, Shokin told me in an interview he was making plans to interview Burisma board members, including Hunter Biden, at the time he was fired. And it was publicly reported that in February 2016, a month before Shokin was fired, that Ukrainian prosecutors raided one of Zlochevsky’s homes and seized expensive items like a luxury car as part of the corruption probe. You can read a contemporaneous news report about the seizure here.
Solomon uncritically parrots Shokin a proven crook and liar:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47001.html

Also:
Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings.[13][34][35] However, Vitaly Kasko, who had been Shokin's deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.[36][37] Also, the investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company.[38]
If you want another source:
https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine ... 81445.html
Shokin made the claim he wanted to reopen the investigation on Burisma in an a statement intended to help Dymitro Firtash with his legal problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Firtash

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8335

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:34 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:
John Solomon is a conspiracy theorist/ propagandeer that was fairly recently fired from The Hill. He has been thoroughly debunked on many of his stories over and over.

His sources are a joke. Talk about MSM fake news. This guy isw a fiction writer.
Which of the assertions in Dog's link are false, and which of Solomon's citations are 'jokes'?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8334

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:18 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8333

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am

Rudy Giuliani used to quote Lutsenko before he changed his story, then decided Lutsenko was a dem operative. Lutsenko's later statement directly contradicted many of the biggest claims Solomon made.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... g-n1060941
Another Solomon source is the now indicted Lev Parnas, who shares lawyers with Solomon (the crackpot husband and wife team of DiGenova and Toensing).
This stuff about how both sides lie is ridiculous. Whatever mistakes or bias in MSM is nothing compared to absolute BS Solomon has been slinging. It's like saying Hitler was an exact equivalent to Churchill because both men did bad things. I've followed Solomon's "opinion pieces" on the Hill for some time before he got his lying ass fired. He is about as much of a journalist as Alex Jones. The publisher of the Hill, Finkleman , a long time friend of Trump, hired Solomon to get some more "conservative" audience. Solomon's pieces went from"fact" pieces to opinion on the publication and eventually his writing was so badly discredited they gave him the boot.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8332

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:31 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:29 am
Service Dog wrote: Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:
John Solomon is a conspiracy theorist/ propagandeer that was fairly recently fired from The Hill. He has been thoroughly debunked on many of his stories over and over.
https://www.mediamatters.org/martha-mac ... ovanovitch
https://www.justsecurity.org/66962/a-do ... n-solomon/
His sources are a joke. Talk about MSM fake news. This guy isw a fiction writer.
Well, whoever is right that story about Lutsenko's denial does not really contradict Solomon as far as I can see. Aside from the fact that it is rather confusing, it is the reported denial which Solomon was referring to, the one which he claims Lutsenko subsequently told him resulted from a misunderstanding. I wouldn't trust Mediamatters as far as I could throw them. They're a Democrat media machine masquerading as a public service. I don't see any proof that Solomon is a fiction writer, only a fuzzy story which leads the reader to insert things between the lines. Both factions in this farce are prone to producing deliberately confusing stories missing out inconvenient facts or allegations. There's a lot of slimey reporting which frames things in a way that leads people to conclude what is not said.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8331

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:29 am

Service Dog wrote: Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:
John Solomon is a conspiracy theorist/ propagandeer that was fairly recently fired from The Hill. He has been thoroughly debunked on many of his stories over and over.
https://www.mediamatters.org/martha-mac ... ovanovitch
https://www.justsecurity.org/66962/a-do ... n-solomon/
His sources are a joke. Talk about MSM fake news. This guy isw a fiction writer.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8330

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:14 am

Service Dog wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:04 am
Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:
That's information that probably won't be widely heard because Schiffty Bugeyes is gatekeeping the fuck out of the hearings and the MSM will ramp up their characterisation of Solomon as a partisan hack if he makes any headway. If Fox had any sense they would stick to amplifying those points instead of their current tactic which seems to revolve around ridiculing the Democrats and mixing the actual pertinent facts in with obfuscatory propaganda. They are actually helping the Democrats to bury the facts.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8329

by Service Dog » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:46 am

I was reading about the various candidates' campaign theme songs.
I'd love to hear your suggestions. These are mine...

Tulsi — Back in the USSR

Kamala — Bad Boys/ Theme from COPS

Trump — Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - AC/DC (he has actually used Sympathy for the Devil at his rallies!)

Buttigieg — ~muzak~

Yang — Give It Away Now — Chili Peppers

Biden — that Midnight Oil song he plagiarized lyrics from… no, wait… Carry On My Wayward Son !!!

Mayor DiBlasio — Rudy Can’t Fail — The Clash (That’s on his actual playlist! Insane.)

Bloomberg — It’s Too Late, Baby — Carole King

Cory Booker — Mr. Potato Head jingle https://tinyurl.com/vruz67v

Bernie — The Communist L’Internationale

Marianne — MoonAge Daydream — Bowie

Warren — Running Bear and Little White Dove https://tinyurl.com/ss37gem

Beto — Pretty Fly (for a white guy)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8328

by Service Dog » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:04 am

Well-sourced independent journalism, addressing misinformation about Ukraine/Biden/Trump/Impeachment...

https://johnsolomonreports.com/debunkin ... erference/

My favorite part-- is Ukraine opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for, 3 months before Trump is accused of bribing the Ukrainian president into opening a corruption investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked-for. :think:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8327

by BoxNDox » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:04 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8326

by Brive1987 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:26 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: I still dispute the criticism that my self selected paper on the 1920s and 30s politics of ‘Fortress Singapore’ and the Subsequent destruction of Force-Z did not address “a naval campaign”.
WTF? Did they confuse Force-Z with the X-Men? My submission for that one -- Lepanto: Or, Didn't we kick these goatfuckers out of Europe once already?

I still chafe at the criticism levied at my paper culminating my self-directed study on the 750 year history of Berlin. With so much ground to cover, I chose four seminal periods: early expansion under the Größer Kurfürst; blossoming of art, music, and architecture end of 18th century [Kaspar David Friedrich, Quantz, ETA Hoffmann, Knobelsdorff, et al.]; industrialization and incorporation of the late 19th-early 20th century; occupation and partition, 1945 -48. The reviewer: "From reading this paper, one would never know that the SPD held a majority in the Prussian parliament for many decades." My reply was: 1) The subject was the ethnographic, geographic, cultural history of one city, not the machinations of national political parties, 2) who held a majority in the largely powerless Prussian fucking Landtag had no bearing on my chosen topics; 3) there weren't even any fucking socialists in 1600's Brandenburg; 4) 750 years / 20 pages = I dunno a shitload of years per page, so something had to get cut; 5) if you've detected any errors or omissions relevant to my chosen topics, please indicate them, otherwise accept the goddamn paper as is and as previously green-lit.

I was too young and naive at the time to realize that academia had already been overrun by pinko commie bedwetters.
Maybe I triggered him?

https://i.imgur.com/cUVzn7m.jpg

Really, I think he was just being a prick. We were meant to confirm our topic but I was too busy enjoying the rich cultural diversity in Switzerland. So I self approved and pushed on.

You really can’t win with the bastards. In my Last research piece, for the literature review, I had a whole section explaining why the current historiography of the Gallipoli landing was full of holes, generalisation and assumptions based on confused chronology. Ie I established a gaping hole which I would then fill.

I was gently reminded by my supervisor to remember my lowly place in the scheme of things. So I replaced the chapter with a respectful vanilla overview of competing theories ... and received a final comment complaining I needed to “engage more and list less”.

:bjarte:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8325

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:45 pm

Brive1987 wrote: I still dispute the criticism that my self selected paper on the 1920s and 30s politics of ‘Fortress Singapore’ and the Subsequent destruction of Force-Z did not address “a naval campaign”.
WTF? Did they confuse Force-Z with the X-Men? My submission for that one -- Lepanto: Or, Didn't we kick these goatfuckers out of Europe once already?

I still chafe at the criticism levied at my paper culminating my self-directed study on the 750 year history of Berlin. With so much ground to cover, I chose four seminal periods: early expansion under the Größer Kurfürst; blossoming of art, music, and architecture end of 18th century [Kaspar David Friedrich, Quantz, ETA Hoffmann, Knobelsdorff, et al.]; industrialization and incorporation of the late 19th-early 20th century; occupation and partition, 1945 -48. The reviewer: "From reading this paper, one would never know that the SPD held a majority in the Prussian parliament for many decades." My reply was: 1) The subject was the ethnographic, geographic, cultural history of one city, not the machinations of national political parties, 2) who held a majority in the largely powerless Prussian fucking Landtag had no bearing on my chosen topics; 3) there weren't even any fucking socialists in 1600's Brandenburg; 4) 750 years / 20 pages = I dunno a shitload of years per page, so something had to get cut; 5) if you've detected any errors or omissions relevant to my chosen topics, please indicate them, otherwise accept the goddamn paper as is and as previously green-lit.

I was too young and naive at the time to realize that academia had already been overrun by pinko commie bedwetters.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8324

by Brive1987 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Well for four years I have waged attrition warfare on my Masters in Military History. One subject per semester juggled with stressful “real” work and the responsibilities of father and husband.

Done. Bagged. Tagged.

I managed to get a High-Distinction for my year long research piece. But alas, in general just fell below the mark, and so achieved an overall strong ‘Distinction’ for the course. I never recovered from a “credit” in naval strategy incurred during a semester marked by an extended overseas holiday. I still dispute the criticism that my self selected paper on the 1920s and 30s politics of ‘Fortress Singapore’ and the Subsequent destruction of Force-Z did not address “a naval campaign”.

Meh.

Now, finally, for a PhD. :?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8323

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:01 pm

1h2m At the request of a viewer, Silverman recounts spitting in Beth Presswood's mouth.

It's jumbled & annoying & the two guys interviewing him are also bumbling molemen with delusions of adequacy... (now might be a good time to say that my obsessive notes on this video are NOT meant as my endorsement that this is interesting or new or worth listening to... it's lame. Buuut... )

I think, in a previous youtube interview, in telling this same story-- Silverman may have inadvertently told the tale-- so that it can be construed as a clear violation of consent. He claimed: he spit in Dillahunty's wife's mouth... then she said 'no' to him doing it again. Then he told her 'no' wouldn't make him stop... only the safeword 'red' would make him stop. <---That version makes it seem like the first time he spit in her mouth-- was without consent.

So, here he is, re-telling the story... but this time he emphasizes the word "remember": As in 'saying no won't make me stop. Remember?! the safe word is "red". Telling it this-way-- insinuates that there was some previous conversation establishing the safeword. Hence: previous consent.

Fuck, I don't know what happened. But I know this sounds like someone trying to cover his bases by invoking magic exculpatory words... rather than the harder task of questioning the entire notion that such magic exculpatory words were every actually required to establish consent. Silverman is playing along with the kinky-bdsm-SJW framing of 'asking for consent', and arguing that he didn't break the magic SJW sexword 'laws'. Rather than base his defense on not breaking the normal actual laws of the land-- as well as the normal social norms of normal adults.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8322

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:49 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Is he a total liar & actual rapist? Or a falsely-accused victim....
Rose St. Clair, of her own free will, choose to take Silverman's poxy pud in all three holes, in exchange for the possibility of a job offer. So, not a rapist, but a major league skeez and unethical piece of shit who abused his position of power nonetheless. And a serial liar, stunningly unaware of how obviously bullshit his lies are, to boot.
According to Silverman, they didn't have a condom, so he went straight to her butthole.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4pTd67hg ... /giphy.gif

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8321

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:45 pm

BoxNDox wrote: Any time you think Hollyweird couldn't get any weirder, it does.
No kidding.
From Hollywood Reporter:
GLAAD, Microsoft Collaborate on Major Playable Transgender Game Character


Brianna Wu must be :mrgreen: with envy

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8320

by Driftless » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:42 pm

Aneris makes an appearance over at WEIT to eviscerate Sorrell-Till on whether or not there is such a thing as an SJW:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... -i-hate-5/

In the same comments section the consensus seems to be that "OK Boomer" is ageist and therefore bad (presumably since most commenters are boomers), but "OK Trumper" is funny.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8319

by BoxNDox » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:03 pm

Keating wrote:
This was true? I thought it was parody.
Hard to believe, but here it is in Variety:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/nico ... 203406776/

And Hollywood Reporter:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... nt-1254626

Any time you think Hollyweird couldn't get any weirder, it does.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8318

by Keating » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:01 pm

This was true? I thought it was parody.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8317

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Service Dog wrote: Is he a total liar & actual rapist? Or a falsely-accused victim....
Rose St. Clair, of her own free will, choose to take Silverman's poxy pud in all three holes, in exchange for the possibility of a job offer. So, not a rapist, but a major league skeez and unethical piece of shit who abused his position of power nonetheless. And a serial liar, stunningly unaware of how obviously bullshit his lies are, to boot.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8316

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:53 am

And why on Earth did he pour himself a drink while his honesty about drinking is being questioned?!!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8315

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:52 am

37m44s Silverman is being pressed on how he has characterized sexual consent... he manages to defend himself from the insinuation that he's engaging in "rape apologetics", but he doesn't defend himself With Ease... he struggles, gets a little huffy... he kinda 'seems' guilty.

At 37m57s-- the host realizes he gave-out the wrong email address... resulting in disproportionately-boisterous laughter. Sure-- it's an understandable release of tension in an awkward moment... but, again, it reads as "fake". And feels inappropriate to shift from serious accusations to ho!ho!ho!

Why is Silverman even doing this, again? I think he has little to gain from a strong performance, and much to lose.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8314

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:33 am

Silverman:

34m "I had one drink." Earlier in the video-- Silverman denied drinking during his day with Rose St. Clair, but-- after the slightest bit of pushback-- allowed that maybe he had one drink. At first he denied the place where they met was a bar. Then he conceded it was a 'sports bar'. Later he slips & says "in the bar"... then catches himself, finishing his phrase... "bar restaurant".

Is he a total liar & actual rapist? Or a falsely-accused victim... who is so desperate to clear his name, that he's padding his defense with false details?

Either way: self-sabotaging idiot.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8313

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:25 am

Service Dog wrote: Silverman
21m27s Silverman goes to his closet & shows-off his bulletproof vest, to prove he has faced real death threats. Silverman sez that tweeting "I hope you choke on a chicken bone" isn't a real death threat... a real death threat is "I'm going to shoot you onstage tonight". Fair enough. He gets self-righteous and puffs at the camera "Don't claim you've received death threats if you haven't!" Ok, buuuut... at about 17 minutes... Silverman talks about his new job at a global atheist organization. Silverman describes the real threats faced by atheists worldwide. Namely, Silverman mentions Uganda's death penalty for gay sex. Silverman sez being an atheist is Even Worse than being gay in Uganda-- because there's a law sentencing gays to death in Uganda... but there's Isn't Even A Law sentencing Atheists to death there... they don't need a law! If you say you're an atheist in Uganda... an impromptu mob will for-sure deal with you. How terrible! Unless it's not true. In which case-- what was it Silverman said about how you shouldn't falsely claim death threats? Here's time magazine, reporting on a monthly public debate event in Uganda-- promoting Atheism. http://content.time.com/time/world/arti ... 16,00.html Here's Silverman's own employer, telling a less-exaggerated tale: https://www.atheistalliance.org/campaig ... in-uganda/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8312

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:58 am

A question for the physicists. This guy is clearly mentally ill. What I'm not sure of is whether his physics babble is at all coherent. Is it? It sounds to me as if he is just mumbling rubbish. "Magnetism isn't a force, dielectric acceleration is increasing inertia and acceleration. Its not force i.e. force in motion" is a typical statement. Much like creationists and climate "skeptics", the certainty with which the fanboys regard established science as fraudulent seems proportional to their own ignorance.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8311

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:49 am

MarcusAu wrote: ...is this what the atheist 'community' has come to?...
I'm a connoisseur of cringe & Dave Silverman is a master chef. So I started watching the 2 hour version of that youtube video:


6m25s Silverman tells a story about appearing on The O’Reilly Factor & realizing Bill O’Reilly’s public persona was a ’fictional character’. According to Silverman, Bill O’Reilly is an “intelligent, rational man” playing-dumb on TV.

Silverman is entirely oblivious of the irony— that Silverman’s own moralizing public persona was revealed to be a fictional character.
In Silverman’s case, the “intelligent rational man” was the fake part!

9m35s Silverman on Bill O’Reilly: “I think he actually assaulted women”
(O’Reilly was accused of sexual harassment & verbal abuse. Not sexual assault.)
After all he’s been thru— Silverman is still comfortable with careless false accusations— as long as it’s not male-feminist Silverman being accused.

Silverman doesn't just re-tell his same-old beloved stories/ oblivious that he's no-longer the same-old beloved guy... he also punctuates his stories by re-enacting emotions and reactions to his own tale: as if this is a genuine off-the-cuff first-time conversation... not a well-worn routine. In other words, he's fake.

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