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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8271

by John D » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:35 pm

Jesus fucking Christ.... My wife is watching shitty police procedural shows... and fuck... I can't stand them. They are like a weird detective fantasy, but presented as reality... and my wife thinks they are accurate... and I'm like..... who wrote this fucking shit?

and this particular show has the following features.... 1) all the "bad" people are white. 2) any "bad" people who are black where made that way by Christians and white people. 3) The good cops don't use any of the real tools to go after the crooked cops... so shit happens... like the crooked cops actually kidnap a witness... and I'm like... where are the Feds? Are you fucking kidding me? The bad cops who are known by the good cops are not under surveillance and can just kidnap a witness....... whatever?

I just hate police procedural I guess. Too bad my wife loves them. (and... her sciatica is acting up so she is being a total bitch to me tonight... god how I suffer). Haha.

To top it off I started working at the General Motors Tech Center in Warren MI. Some fucking genius decided the work areas had to be shared spaces. You are told not to sit in the same space every day (except for the women who are administrative assistants.. they get to be squatters on the same desk every day). So the rest of us engineers pick a place to sit in some big space every day. It is like every day at work is a camping trip. You have to carry everything with you. And, since I am the new guy, no one knows me and I can't learn who anyone is unless I just walk up and ask... like ... "Gee wizz... I am the new guy... and what is your name.... and gee wizz... it is so nice to meet you." Fucking hell. Everyone at GM that I talk to about this setup hate it. Fucking HR sociologist bull shit peddlers.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8270

by John D » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:54 pm

Chicks are weird and Muslim chicks are really weird.
https://www.boredpanda.com/hijab-makeup ... mJp-mSMSzk

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8269

by katamari Damassi » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:18 pm

I also wanted to mention how the author calls out SJW's shoddy understanding of logic, obscurantist rhetoric, and power grabbing tricks.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8268

by katamari Damassi » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:13 pm

A white man who started a chain of very successful charter schools that cater to a mostly black student body has been fired from his CEO position for white supremacy. What constitutes white supremacy? His support for tradition book learning over modern educational woo. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/601696/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8267

by MarcusAu » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:06 pm

I thought this was an interesting counterpoint to the story told many times (and soon to be again in Scorsese's 'The Irishman').

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WQZ8SlzWgY

Apparently things weren't quite as rosey as some portray, back in the days when the Kennedy's (and of course J. Edgar) were running roughshod over due process and the legal system in general.

Ah well, I'm sure that movie will make a compelling narrative that I can believe in...at least for a while.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8266

by MarcusAu » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:56 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:16 pm



Indeed - opinion is divided on the subject.

And on a similar note is anyone up to speed on what is happening with the Nick Fuentes (sp) vs Charlie Kirk spat? (or 'Groyper' insurgency or whatever they are calling it).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8265

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:38 pm

Service Dog wrote: In that case, I'm definitely starting a neo-nazi rock band called Arrokoth.

After all, you can't spell Arrokoth without 'OK'.
I get a commission on all concert T-shirt sales...

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8264

by Service Dog » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:25 pm

In that case, I'm definitely starting a neo-nazi rock band called Arrokoth.

After all, you can't spell Arrokoth without 'OK'.

We'll be an Ace Of Base cover band.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/rm35 ... -nazi-past

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8263

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:59 am

NASA renames "Ultima Thule" asteroid "Arrokoth" -- an Algonquin word meaning 'sky' and 'gifted' to the space agency by the Powhatan peoples -- to avoid association with neo-nazi groups and rock bands:
Heavy.com wrote:The name itself probably dates back about a thousand years and has been used in Latin literature. It’s historically been used to describe remote, hard to reach places.

But in the twentieth century, the name became associated with White Supremacists and Nazis. In Hitler Germany, members of the Nazi Party started talking about an imagined land of Aryan purity which they called Ultima Thule. The name still carries Nazi associations. A Swedish rock band with links to neo-Nazis named itself Ultima Thule. And a group of white supremacists in Portland, Oregon produced a newspaper full of racist, anti semitic articles which they called Thule.

Alan Stern, the lead scientist on the New Horizons mission, said that NASA wanted to reclaim the ancient name: "... the term Ultima Thule—which is very old, many centuries old, possibly over 1,000 years old—is a wonderful meme for exploration. And that’s why we chose it. And I would say that just because some bad guys once liked the term, we’re not going to let them hijack it.”
Oh, you silly, unwoke scientist.

USAF, no doubt, will soon be renaming Thule AFB the Inuit word for 'seal intestines'.


FYI, don't rely too heavily on Heavy for your science news:
It’s so far away from the sun that it doesn’t receive light, or heat.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8262

by AndrewV69 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:07 am
Lsuoma wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:19 pm
Billary "under enormous pressure" to run in 2020:
Her proxy Kamala got taken out. If she wants revenge on Putin and the deplorables she'll have to do it herself.
Interesting.

Hillary does indeed sound like a "crazy cat lady tossing cats" to paraprase someone else.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8261

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:07 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:19 pm
Billary "under enormous pressure" to run in 2020:
Her proxy Kamala got taken out. If she wants revenge on Putin and the deplorables she'll have to do it herself.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8260

by Lsuoma » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:19 pm

Billary "under enormous pressure" to run in 2020:



Watch her go down even harder if she tries it. Perhaps the Dems might learn something?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8259

by free thoughtpolice » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:06 pm

fuzzy wrote: Back when Cherry was coaching the Bruins, you could still go to the Garden the day before a game and buy Stanley Cup finals tickets against the Habs, maybe behind a post. Smallest sheet of ice in the league vs the biggest one up there where Guy Lafleur would skate rings around us. Now I feel old.
I'm even older. Bobby Orr and Phil Esposito vs Beliveau and LaMare. The best years of the rivalry. It was talent versus talent and free wheeling.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8258

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:53 am

Mookie wrote: Personally, while I am neither a great fan not a great critic of Microsoft, I appreciate that for less than $50 of the cost of a new computer I get a very powerful and reliable OS that is the result of man-centuries (if not man-millennia) of development. I consider it more than a fair exchange and do not begrudge Gates one cent of his wealth.
Innovation, creativity, and risk-taking need to be reasonably rewarded.

It's still fair to note that:
1) The obscene levels of wealth we now see in no way yield commensurate levels of incentives for innovation;
2) Gates obscene level of wealth in particular is the result of him running a near-monopoly first for an OS someone else 'innovated' & who Gates fleeced for $50k, then the shell for that OS which was a shoddy simulacrum of someone else's (XPARC's) innovation;
3) Said near-monopoly immensely stifled innovation in software development for decades.

Curiously, many of the very high-tech billionaires (Gates excluded) whose wealth Lizzie Warren wishes to tax at an effective 150% rate, are some of her biggest donors:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8257

by katamari Damassi » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:51 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: My report on MIDWAY:

[MILD SPOILERS]

About 80% satisfied.

Hardly any sappy or hokey moments, and that mostly justifiable exposition of young men, many with families, going into a very dangerous and likely -- especially that day -- fatal situation. The human element was shown for both Americans and Japanese, sometimes quite subtly yet powerfully. A few muted yet evocative mirroring of Japanese and American experiences and actions. None of the actors portraying the famous commanders go over the top; they do just fine. For better or worse, Yamamoto is depicted as tragic Hamlet type.

Visuals were very striking, especially when contrasting how small the planes were and how big the ships -- and how really big the ocean. The pilots' views of the dive bomb runs were stunning. Overall, SFX were near-perfectly realistic. (My GF asked how the planes taking off were filmed and was shocked when I told her it was all on a computer.)

The storyline kept close to historical events. Begins with Pearl Harbor, which sets the state of mind and strategic situation so Midway can be seen in perspective. IMO, a bit too much time spent on individual sailors at Pearl. Same for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo, though the sight of those B-25s on the carrier deck when no way in hell should they be on a carrier deck, was awesome. (I say this as someone who's been on two carrier decks and recently stood way too close to a taxiing B-25 at an air show.) Fortunately, Aaron Eckhart as Doolittle was not given enough lines for him to turn in his usual clunker of a performance. Dallying on director John Ford's presence on Midway during the battle was a distraction that added nothing.

Despite those complaints above, pacing was good, with sufficient down time interspersed with intense, chaotic battle scenes. (The GF reported extensive goosebumps and sweaty palms from the combat scenes.) The attacks on the first three Japanese carriers is presented near real-time, that is, in about eight minutes, and is just nuts. The decision to omit the attack on Yorktown, however, was puzzling, especially given the time spent on the Tokyo Raid digression. IMO, showing Yorktown's fate would've served as a poignant mirror to that of the Japanese carriers.

Minor quibble: it was impossible to tell who was flying off of which carrier.

Big disappointment: NO WILDCATS. Yes, we get a glimpse of Buffaloes taking off, but otherwise, you'd come away from the film thinking the Americans had no fighter planes in the Pacific that day.
I enjoyed it, though it's a by the numbers war movie. CGI looked cheap in places. Was pleasantly surprised no one had been race/gender swapped, nor have I seen articles decrying its whiteness as I did when Dunkirk came out.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8256

by Mookie » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:42 am

PZ and associated worthless dipshits are using the fruits of capitalist innovation to bash capitalist innovation. Personally, while I am neither a great fan not a great critic of Microsoft, I appreciate that for less than $50 of the cost of a new computer I get a very powerful and reliable OS that is the result of man-centuries (if not man-millennia) of development. I consider it more than a fair exchange and do not begrudge Gates one cent of his wealth.

It is mesmerizing to watch losers like PZ, who has never produced anything of value in his life, constantly berate those who have actually accomplished something.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8255

by Brive1987 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:05 am

This is the beastie.

https://i.imgur.com/1a7xFRU.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8254

by Brive1987 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:00 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: My report on MIDWAY:

[MILD SPOILERS]

About 80% satisfied.

Hardly any sappy or hokey moments, and that mostly justifiable exposition of young men, many with families, going into a very dangerous and likely -- especially that day -- fatal situation. The human element was shown for both Americans and Japanese, sometimes quite subtly yet powerfully. A few muted yet evocative mirroring of Japanese and American experiences and actions. None of the actors portraying the famous commanders go over the top; they do just fine. For better or worse, Yamamoto is depicted as tragic Hamlet type.

Visuals were very striking, especially when contrasting how small the planes were and how big the ships -- and how really big the ocean. The pilots' views of the dive bomb runs were stunning. Overall, SFX were near-perfectly realistic. (My GF asked how the planes taking off were filmed and was shocked when I told her it was all on a computer.)

The storyline kept close to historical events. Begins with Pearl Harbor, which sets the state of mind and strategic situation so Midway can be seen in perspective. IMO, a bit too much time spent on individual sailors at Pearl. Same for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo, though the sight of those B-25s on the carrier deck when no way in hell should they be on a carrier deck, was awesome. (I say this as someone who's been on two carrier decks and recently stood way too close to a taxiing B-25 at an air show.) Fortunately, Aaron Eckhart as Doolittle was not given enough lines for him to turn in his usual clunker of a performance. Dallying on director John Ford's presence on Midway during the battle was a distraction that added nothing.

Despite those complaints above, pacing was good, with sufficient down time interspersed with intense, chaotic battle scenes. (The GF reported extensive goosebumps and sweaty palms from the combat scenes.) The attacks on the first three Japanese carriers is presented near real-time, that is, in about eight minutes, and is just nuts. The decision to omit the attack on Yorktown, however, was puzzling, especially given the time spent on the Tokyo Raid digression. IMO, showing Yorktown's fate would've served as a poignant mirror to that of the Japanese carriers.

Minor quibble: it was impossible to tell who was flying off of which carrier.

Big disappointment: NO WILDCATS. Yes, we get a glimpse of Buffaloes taking off, but otherwise, you'd come away from the film thinking the Americans had no fighter planes in the Pacific that day.
Cheers. Would like something I should use my birthday cinema max tickets on.

BBC History Extra podcast (recommended) just released an episode interviewing the director. The BBC girl, usually busy grilling historians on their latest book, learns quickly to keep the conversation on the movie and not the history. But you do get to find out why dive bombing took centre stage over Wildcats.

https://www.historyextra.com/article-type/podcast/

I remember the book of the 1977 or ‘78 movie transfixed me in 5th or 6th class. It was like a full form war comic. Shifted my attention from the Bismarck to the Akagi et al. Changed my modelling focus from Airfix to strange Japanese brands and opened up a new history genre. So happy memories.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8253

by Bhurzum » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:57 am

fuzzy wrote: A dear friend recently passed away: the person whose permanently wooish beliefs first drove me to web fora circa 2010 in search of coping mechanisms. I found JREF, which I now like to call JERF, and that seemed to help for a while, and then a few years later I bumbled over here. I'm friendly with people who claim alien encounters, angelic encounters, mysterious water that emits energy that can be felt only by the pure in heart. perfessor whooppee who invented it.
My ex-wife was a woo-merchant of the highest order - angels (even though she was atheist, figure that one out!), out of body experiences, ghosts, the whole shooting match. My favourite holy cow to slay was fortune telling; I'd routinely end up in the doghouse for ripping it to shreds. No sex for a few days? Worth it to watch the cogs turn behind her eyes as she attempted to validate her batshittery.

Fucking hippies...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8252

by fuzzy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:30 pm

A dear friend recently passed away: the person whose permanently wooish beliefs first drove me to web fora circa 2010 in search of coping mechanisms. I found JREF, which I now like to call JERF, and that seemed to help for a while, and then a few years later I bumbled over here. I'm friendly with people who claim alien encounters, angelic encounters, mysterious water that emits energy that can be felt only by the pure in heart. perfessor whooppee who invented it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8251

by fuzzy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:34 pm

Back when Cherry was coaching the Bruins, you could still go to the Garden the day before a game and buy Stanley Cup finals tickets against the Habs, maybe behind a post. Smallest sheet of ice in the league vs the biggest one up there where Guy Lafleur would skate rings around us. Now I feel old.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8250

by free thoughtpolice » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:14 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Hockey great, Don Cherry, fired from broadcasting job for complaining that immigrants don't buy poppy pins:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... t-comments
Don Cherry is a cheerleader for dimwits and has been for decades. He was a crappy player that lucked out with a job coaching a good team for a few years. It was largely the moronic drivel from losers like him that soured me on appreciating hockey.
Hockey great my hemmorhoid. :naughty:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8249

by free thoughtpolice » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:55 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8248

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Hockey great, Don Cherry, fired from broadcasting job for complaining that immigrants don't buy poppy pins:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/280 ... t-comments

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8247

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:15 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:25 pm
Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?
Yes, quite a few years ago and I loved it. I went through a phase of Sven Hassel, Leo Kessler, and this which I thought was a more autobiographical choice But I read since that it wasn't really his own experiences, which cheapened it a bit for me.
cf. http://www.custermen.net/sajer/sajer3.htm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8246

by MarcusAu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:51 pm

So about this movie...how does it compare?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGbpbclYyQ

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8245

by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:25 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?
Yes, quite a few years ago and I loved it. I went through a phase of Sven Hassel, Leo Kessler, and this which I thought was a more autobiographical choice But I read since that it wasn't really his own experiences, which cheapened it a bit for me.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8244

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:44 pm

My report on MIDWAY:

[MILD SPOILERS]

About 80% satisfied.

Hardly any sappy or hokey moments, and that mostly justifiable exposition of young men, many with families, going into a very dangerous and likely -- especially that day -- fatal situation. The human element was shown for both Americans and Japanese, sometimes quite subtly yet powerfully. A few muted yet evocative mirroring of Japanese and American experiences and actions. None of the actors portraying the famous commanders go over the top; they do just fine. For better or worse, Yamamoto is depicted as tragic Hamlet type.

Visuals were very striking, especially when contrasting how small the planes were and how big the ships -- and how really big the ocean. The pilots' views of the dive bomb runs were stunning. Overall, SFX were near-perfectly realistic. (My GF asked how the planes taking off were filmed and was shocked when I told her it was all on a computer.)

The storyline kept close to historical events. Begins with Pearl Harbor, which sets the state of mind and strategic situation so Midway can be seen in perspective. IMO, a bit too much time spent on individual sailors at Pearl. Same for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo, though the sight of those B-25s on the carrier deck when no way in hell should they be on a carrier deck, was awesome. (I say this as someone who's been on two carrier decks and recently stood way too close to a taxiing B-25 at an air show.) Fortunately, Aaron Eckhart as Doolittle was not given enough lines for him to turn in his usual clunker of a performance. Dallying on director John Ford's presence on Midway during the battle was a distraction that added nothing.

Despite those complaints above, pacing was good, with sufficient down time interspersed with intense, chaotic battle scenes. (The GF reported extensive goosebumps and sweaty palms from the combat scenes.) The attacks on the first three Japanese carriers is presented near real-time, that is, in about eight minutes, and is just nuts. The decision to omit the attack on Yorktown, however, was puzzling, especially given the time spent on the Tokyo Raid digression. IMO, showing Yorktown's fate would've served as a poignant mirror to that of the Japanese carriers.

Minor quibble: it was impossible to tell who was flying off of which carrier.

Big disappointment: NO WILDCATS. Yes, we get a glimpse of Buffaloes taking off, but otherwise, you'd come away from the film thinking the Americans had no fighter planes in the Pacific that day.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8243

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:00 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
I'm pretty sure the Germans actually advanced into the Don basin in 1942.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8242

by screwtape » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:13 pm

One has a little hope again:


It's hard to get over prejudices. I don't care for Farage, who comes across as the classic sheepskin-coated secondhand car salesman. On the other hand, I don't see anything worthwhile for the UK if there is any form of pseudo-Brexit , so I have to applaud him for doing this.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8241

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:19 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:53 am
YouTube is wiping out, without pre-warning, any video referencing the whistle-blowers name. The one previously spread thru MSM. The now public figure. The dude at the centre of the current biggest story.

Cause that’s useful and appropriate for a platform rather than a publisher ....

Matt and Blonde had their Wednesday show nuked into perma-private mode. So they came back today with a ‘xxxx is not the whistler-blower’ tee shirt and fan picture background.

And got nuked 20 mins in.

They came back on a backup, continued their defiance and so far still draw breath.

https://i.imgur.com/qCsIuEn.jpg
It doesn't make much sense does it. If I had to guess I'd say it was because the whistleblower has a partisan history (which is true) and/or it's an attempt to maintain the threat narrative as in he's in physical danger from the evil Trumpers.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8240

by Service Dog » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:15 am

It's pretty-crazy that Boomer Schiff released a hearing transcript, failing to redact Ciaramella's name, then, that-night, removed the posted transcript.

Quite similar to Boomer Giuliani butt-dialing a journalist-- talking about how someone named "Charles" doesn't have a strong fraud case/ because Charles didn't do due-dilligence. What's that about? Well... Giuliani's cronies are accused of ripping-off a guy named Charles-- for a half-million dollars-- in a fraudulent investment scheme.
Also-- more Boomer-dom-- a millennial instagram-influencer wannabe-reality-tv pot-vendor... appears to be a central figure in Giuliani being exposed:
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/10/who-is ... -identity/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8239

by Bhurzum » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:13 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?
No idea although I've read conflicting opinions on the events in the book. All I know is it's a gripping read and very accurately describes the mindset of a soldier.

Have you read it?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8238

by Brive1987 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:53 am

YouTube is wiping out, without pre-warning, any video referencing the whistle-blowers name. The one previously spread thru MSM. The now public figure. The dude at the centre of the current biggest story.

Cause that’s useful and appropriate for a platform rather than a publisher ....

Matt and Blonde had their Wednesday show nuked into perma-private mode. So they came back today with a ‘xxxx is not the whistler-blower’ tee shirt and fan picture background.

And got nuked 20 mins in.

They came back on a backup, continued their defiance and so far still draw breath.

https://i.imgur.com/qCsIuEn.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8237

by Brive1987 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:17 pm

NSW.

Sometimes you have to burn the town to save it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8236

by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:22 pm

Bhurzum wrote: This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)
Wasn't that decided years ago to be pretty much confected from boyish dreams of war?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8235

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm

Bhurzum wrote: This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)
Damn. My french exchange family recommended that to me in the Paris airport as airplane reading on my way home when I was 14. Blew me away. Ever since, I keep two copies so I have one to give away because I've given away dozens and everyone I give it -- including several girlfriends and the latest my brother-in-law last xmas -- to ends up raving and recommending it to others.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8234

by Lsuoma » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:13 am

Pseudomonas wrote:
Catastrophic Fire Danger:

"For your survival, leaving early is the only option.
...
Homes are not designed to withstand fires in catastrophic conditions so you should leave early."

Basically, run away, because there's FA chance of stopping a fire when it gets going.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8233

by BoxNDox » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:55 am

How the Insufferably Woke Help Trump - Democrats are insulting and condescending to the swing-state voters they need the most.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/opin ... trump.html

Some insight, but fails at the end:
Save the piety, the circular firing squad, the shaming on social media for after the election.
An actual attitude adjustment is required. Trying to hide your contempt isn't going to work, because people see through that in a flash.

The woke aren't as smart as they think, and the unwoke aren't as dumb as the woke believe.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8232

by Pseudomonas » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:07 am
Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t
For a more up to date map of what's burned, try https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-informa ... s-near-me . Unfortunately, the Queensland RFS map just gives the fire locations, not areas burnt, but we're copping it too.

And the Greater Sydney and Greater Hunter regions will hit 'Catastrophic' fire danger on Tuesday.

Catastrophic Fire Danger:

"For your survival, leaving early is the only option.
...
Homes are not designed to withstand fires in catastrophic conditions so you should leave early."

Basically, run away, because there's FA chance of stopping a fire when it gets going.

Brisbane only gets to 'Severe', two below Catastrophic over the next four days of forecasts.

Pseudomonas

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8231

by Bhurzum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:30 pm

Donkular is up to his old tricks...



The backlash in the thread is quite amusing and will probably burn for a few days.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8230

by Bhurzum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 pm

This is a pretty good read:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... 3,200_.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier

Careful though, it might turn you into a nazi... ;)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8229

by BoxNDox » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:49 pm

screwtape wrote: In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.
Gustav Hasford's The Short-Timers is my personal favorite. Full Metal Jacket is based on it, but it's really quite different from the movie.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8228

by Lsuoma » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

screwtape wrote: In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.
Agree on all these, especially "Sagittarius Rising".

My favorite memoir of all, though, is "Undertones of War" by Edmund Blunden.

Graves' "Goodbye to all That" was, until recently, only available in the later, sanitized-to-avoid-libel-suits edition, but the original edition is now available. Both editions have a fair degree of exaggeration - Graves openly stated that he wrote it to make a lot of money, and, as Spike MIlligan put it, he "jazzed it up a little." Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger is a great memoir from the Hun perspective, while Under Fire by Henri Barbusse rounds out the Western Front experience by presenting a Froggie viewpoint.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8227

by screwtape » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:07 pm

In re military memoirs: I may have mentioned these recommendations before, but even if I did, they bear repeating. The best book about WW1 flying is a novel by a Camel pilot who was actually there in 46 Sqdn, Victor Yeates. The book is Winged Victory, and there isn't really anything like it. Even the foreword, written by the much discredited Henry Williamson*, is a wonderful illustration of Yeates' ability to grip the reader with the lines of a simple letter. His flight leader ('Mac') was Donald MacLaren, a far better candidate for Canadian glory than the likely fraudulent Billy Bishop. Yeates describes authentically all the aerodynamic quirks of the Camel, the nature of daily patrols over the lines in 1918, all the slang of the era (which has no translation in the book: ask me if you read it and don't understand), and the effects on each and every pilot of life under the circumstances resulting in 'Flying Sickness D' (which might have meant the TB from which Yeates died, the later descriptor 'Lack of Moral Fibre' or simply whatever current diagnosis was used for those who had had enough of war, be it shell shock, combat fatigue or PTSD). The book stands up as a worthwhile novel as well as a historical novel, or as a memoir. I wish I could write like that.

Two other writers were there too, and wrote about it, but they don't quite achieve the accurate pathos of Yeates, Duncan Grinnell-Milne wrote about his experiences in The Wind in the Wires, but only out of print copies available, and Cecil Lewis (not C.S.Lewis!) did something like it with Sagittarius Rising. All well worth a read, and even chasing down out of print copies.

*Williamson was the creator of Tarka the Otter, and later was faulted for his sympathies for Hitler and Mosely. He was so impressed with Yeates that the character in Winged Victory 'Tom Cundall' was present in his novel series 'A Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight' and Yeates, in return, named the secondary character in Winged Victory 'Williamson'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8226

by Brive1987 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8225

by Brive1987 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Brewster Buffalo.

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8224

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:45 pm

John D wrote: Shit! I really wanted to like this movie... but... the history buff and engineer in me finds it to be unwatchable. I guess most movies have to have totally unrealistic battle scenes because everyone is watching fucking video games... and need a kind of spastic physical world. The planes pitch and turn at ridiculous rates.... they dive within a foot of their target (even flying under the tops of palm trees down a street). The density of the flack and the tracers is insane. It is all so comic that it makes me laugh. To bad. I loved Dunkirk.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8223

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:39 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Keating wrote: Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.
I saw it in the theaters, which included 30 minutes afterward of Jackson describing how the film was made. He mentions one clip of a group of soldiers in a sunken road. All of them had panic on their faces, especially the one in the forefront. They were about to go over and Jackson says the entire regt was wiped out. Had that one tommy's face in my head for days.

Seeing MIDWAY tomorrow with the GF. Critics' reviews tend to find it hokey and jingoistic, viewers' reviews love it. we shall see.

The 'teaser trailer', which feels like for a horror movie, kicks ass:

Shit! I really wanted to like this movie... but... the history buff and engineer in me finds it to be unwatchable. I guess most movies have to have totally unrealistic battle scenes because everyone is watching fucking video games... and need a kind of spastic physical world. The planes pitch and turn at ridiculous rates.... they dive within a foot of their target (even flying under the tops of palm trees down a street). The density of the flack and the tracers is insane. It is all so comic that it makes me laugh. To bad. I loved Dunkirk.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8222

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:32 am

How Dare You!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8221

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:30 am

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8220

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:03 am

Keating wrote: Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.
I saw it in the theaters, which included 30 minutes afterward of Jackson describing how the film was made. He mentions one clip of a group of soldiers in a sunken road. All of them had panic on their faces, especially the one in the forefront. They were about to go over and Jackson says the entire regt was wiped out. Had that one tommy's face in my head for days.

Seeing MIDWAY tomorrow with the GF. Critics' reviews tend to find it hokey and jingoistic, viewers' reviews love it. we shall see.

The 'teaser trailer', which feels like for a horror movie, kicks ass:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8219

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:46 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8218

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:00 am

I am not sure I fully believe this woman. I think she knows more that she is saying. She is a TV producer and she has never heard of Project Veritas? Hmmmm. If feel sorry for her though. She was only on her new job for 4 days so she can be fired without cause. She probably wont even be able to sue for wrongful termination.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8217

by John D » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:50 am

"You fight wiff a woman... you rittle plick!"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8216

by Keating » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:47 am

Just finished watching Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old documentary. Very moving. 'Enjoy' is the wrong word, but it did hold your attention.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8215

by KiwiInOz » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am

Lsuoma wrote: Looks like NSW is getting Fd in the A:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/ma ... ms_modis_t
Yep. I'm currently in Lismore, NSW. The fires are miles away but the smoke is full on. And it's unlikely to change for days if not weeks.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8214

by Guest_04466d3b » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:15 am

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8213

by Brive1987 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:16 pm

MarcusAu wrote: So...ah...Milo is still alive - and it looks like like there are various changes happening in the Alt-Right.

Oh, and Richard Spencer has an optics problem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cCS1cP69Wo


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#8212

by Service Dog » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:55 pm

Driftless wrote: Slate is doing well today. Here's something that can be solved by getting more trans women into sports:

https://slate.com/technology/2019/11/ma ... nners.html
If the fucking transwomen athletes really want to help the cause of trans acceptance... they'd fucking come in 2nd or 3rd place once in a while.

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