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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14972

by Lsuoma » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:43 pm

I've been away and defocused for a bit. When/why/hoe did the Pit turn into a QAnon hive?

WTF is QAnon anyway?

And when did TDSSTSSDDTSSTDS happen?

And who are you people, and what have you done with my packet of gravel?????

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:00 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Now, whether the stuck item was a ball or the dog is left up to the reader.
And the dog ain't talkin'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14970

by Really? » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:37 pm
Keating wrote: Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.
I can't speak to other countries, but here in the US "excesses of the left" really boils down to the fact that in the last four years the left has become violent again, after a nearly forty year hiatus. The last time American left was really violent was in the days of Patty Hearst and The Weather Underground (no, not a secretive news broadcasting agency). While the American right has racked up a steady body count for decades.
Funny, I don't remember the right being violent. The very far extreme right maybe, but then they have essentially been in the wilderness for a very long time and reviled by the Republicans. The violence of the left is more likely to be given tacit approval by the Democratic Party. Stems from the fact that left wing violence spreads under positive sounding banners. The current excesses of the left are to do with an adoption of the BAMN ethos where ethics are secondary to ends. I'm not saying Republicans are all honest actors but the Democrats took a look at Rove and said "hold my beer".
Were the Right violent, they'd have burned down The French Fucking Laundry already and all the cunts inside.
And CNN would have a dude out in front calling it a peaceful protest.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:02 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:37 pm
Keating wrote: Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.
I can't speak to other countries, but here in the US "excesses of the left" really boils down to the fact that in the last four years the left has become violent again, after a nearly forty year hiatus. The last time American left was really violent was in the days of Patty Hearst and The Weather Underground (no, not a secretive news broadcasting agency). While the American right has racked up a steady body count for decades.
Funny, I don't remember the right being violent. The very far extreme right maybe, but then they have essentially been in the wilderness for a very long time and reviled by the Republicans. The violence of the left is more likely to be given tacit approval by the Democratic Party. Stems from the fact that left wing violence spreads under positive sounding banners. The current excesses of the left are to do with an adoption of the BAMN ethos where ethics are secondary to ends. I'm not saying Republicans are all honest actors but the Democrats took a look at Rove and said "hold my beer".
Were the Right violent, they'd have burned down The French Fucking Laundry already and all the cunts inside.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:59 pm

Service Dog wrote: //Implicit bias test: if you have any racist thoughts during this video, you are a bad person.//
Having worked and hung out with a lot of blacks, my experience was most of them had a constant running monologue directed at no one in particular.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:54 pm

Supposedly, that was the voter instructions returned with the ballot. A lot of voters do that, and I'd understand why a poll worker might get frustrated. But it should be confirmed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14966

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:36 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:17 pm
Trump claimed that the 2016 election was fraudulent (what does that day about his win) and has been claiming for ages that the 2020 election would also be fraudulent. He's had four years as President to do something about it, but hasn't. Too busy playing golf and directing disenfranchisement of citizens who might not vote Republican, I guess.
You need to learn some context. Trump was assured that the legal strategy was in hand and he was let down. His problem is and always has been that there are few people he can trust and he hasn't always been able to tell who the snakes are until the knife goes in. His warnings about fraud in this election stem from the Democrat push to send out masses of unrequested mail ballots using Coronavirus as justification, so no he didn't have four years to prevent that. The Dem legal team successfully managed to remove most of the impediments to fraud in the swing states and Trump was indeed let down by his legal team in that regard. Where the checks weren't removed by legal action they were just ignored to a large extent. The ballot is currency in an election and there were millions of them floating around for months leading up to the election, many of them ineligible and ripe for abuse. This was by Democrat design. How did Trump direct disenfranchisement of citizens?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:06 pm

Hunt wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:37 pm
Keating wrote: Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.
I can't speak to other countries, but here in the US "excesses of the left" really boils down to the fact that in the last four years the left has become violent again, after a nearly forty year hiatus. The last time American left was really violent was in the days of Patty Hearst and The Weather Underground (no, not a secretive news broadcasting agency). While the American right has racked up a steady body count for decades.
Funny, I don't remember the right being violent. The very far extreme right maybe, but then they have essentially been in the wilderness for a very long time and reviled by the Republicans. The violence of the left is more likely to be given tacit approval by the Democratic Party. Stems from the fact that left wing violence spreads under positive sounding banners. The current excesses of the left are to do with an adoption of the BAMN ethos where ethics are secondary to ends. I'm not saying Republicans are all honest actors but the Democrats took a look at Rove and said "hold my beer".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 pm

Service Dog wrote: Whoever owns those golf courses must be making a fortune off Trump.
They certainly have benefited from the US
Treasury.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:29 pm

Service Dog wrote: What happened was Joe got out of the shower. He got a dog. And anybody who's been around his house knows, dropped. The little pup dropped the ball in front of him. And for him to grab the ball. And he is walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And he grabbed the ball like this. And the dog ran. And Joe was joking. Running after him to grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug, and Joe tripped on the rug he slid on. That's what happened.

"What happened was I got out of the shower. I got a dog. And anybody who’s been around my house knows, dropped — the little pup dropped the ball in front of me, and for me to grab the ball. And I’m walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And I grabbed the ball like this, and he ran, and I was joking, running after him to grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug, and I tripped on the rug he slid on. That’s what happened."

“Oh, man,” Tapper replied.

“Not a very exciting story,” Biden said.

“No,” Tapper agreed.
And here was I thinking the punchline was going to be like the guy in hospital to get the potato out of his rectum. Slipped and landed on it while hanging curtains in the nude, apparently.

Now, whether the stuck item was a ball or the dog is left up to the reader.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:18 pm

//Implicit bias test: if you have any racist thoughts during this video, you are a bad person.//

"Video two-- Ruby Freeman took where she receives another box of ballots in a private cubicle."

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:05 pm



Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14960

by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:50 pm

Match unconfirmed: might be a different Ruby Leshiqueka Freeman.


Election official.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14959

by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:02 pm

What happened was Joe got out of the shower. He got a dog. And anybody who's been around his house knows, dropped. The little pup dropped the ball in front of him. And for him to grab the ball. And he is walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And he grabbed the ball like this. And the dog ran. And Joe was joking. Running after him to grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug, and Joe tripped on the rug he slid on. That's what happened.

"What happened was I got out of the shower. I got a dog. And anybody who’s been around my house knows, dropped — the little pup dropped the ball in front of me, and for me to grab the ball. And I’m walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And I grabbed the ball like this, and he ran, and I was joking, running after him to grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug, and I tripped on the rug he slid on. That’s what happened."

“Oh, man,” Tapper replied.

“Not a very exciting story,” Biden said.

“No,” Tapper agreed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:49 pm

Whoever owns those golf courses must be making a fortune off Trump.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14957

by KiwiInOz » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:17 pm

Trump claimed that the 2016 election was fraudulent (what does that day about his win) and has been claiming for ages that the 2020 election would also be fraudulent. He's had four years as President to do something about it, but hasn't. Too busy playing golf and directing disenfranchisement of citizens who might not vote Republican, I guess.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14956

by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:40 pm

Seattle continues its descent into complete lunacy:

https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-po ... anor-crime
In October, the Seattle City Council floated legislation to provide an exemption from prosecution for misdemeanor crimes for any citizen who suffers from poverty, homelessness, addiction, or mental illness. Under the proposed ordinance, courts would have to dismiss all so-called “crimes of poverty”

The impact of this measure would be enormous. In 2019, the Seattle Police Department reported 25,993 thefts, 8,442 assaults, 6,430 property offenses, 4,194 frauds, 3,910 trespasses, and 1,640 narcotics violations—representing 72 percent of all reported crimes. If the ordinance passes, nearly all these crimes would be permitted under law.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14955

by Service Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:04 pm

Not to be undone by all the colorful Republicans testifying,
this Ruby Freeman character is turning-out to be
an exotic treasure.
Maga-nerds pouring over her social media-- found this clip,
which displays her personality,
and piles of ballots all-over-the-place,
and ends with the camera catching a ballot lacking a return address.

https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFgM8ob/bust ... s-video/c/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14954

by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am

Highlights of the Michigan voter fraud hearings.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14953

by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:20 am

Hunt wrote: I concede all that. Remember my position is predicated on the initial context that the left has grown violent in the last four years of Trump, though I admit it predates that to a large extent. I still maintain that in the period from, say 1980 to 2010, in total, the right was a lot more violent, even in the general, weighted sense. Wouldn't you agree that gunning down an abortion doctor has to be given a bit more weight than throwing a brick through a window?
What's our metric, how do we weight?

For the past sixty years at least, the overwhelming majority on right and the left have been peaceful. (In the US -- the Baader-Meinhof Komplex, IRA, Shining Path, et al., were extremely murderous.) The violent ones were always on the fringe, moving in the shadows -- The Weathermen, the abortion clinic bombers. They had no support of the general public and were aggressively pursued by the government and LE.

But that changed with TDS. Violence is now condoned by the bien pensant on the left as a legitimate response to the 'virtual' violence of rhetoric, assorted -phobias, 'erasure', 'systemic' oppressions, etc., which all burst out when accelerated by the 'Resistance' to Trump's 'illegitimate' presidency -- his very existence, even. The MSM and Dem leadership excused and often encouraged the looting and rioting while letting the perpetrators go unpunished.

So even if it could be fairly documented that, over the past quarter century the rightwing fringe scored a slightly less tiny body count than the leftwing fringe's tiny body count, what's the point?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14952

by Hunt » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:08 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: But seriously, now you've shifted the goalposts from 'violence' to killings. I think nightly lootings, vandalism, burnings, counts as violence. As does bashing someone over the head with a bicycle lock. Hitting cops with fireworks, blinding them with lasers. Pulling people from their cars and viciously beating them, pummeling old women with 2x4's, shattering old men's jaws with bricks -- that's violence, too, donchathink? And several people were murdered this year by BLM/Antifa rioters. I'll just remind you of one, David Dorn:
I concede all that. Remember my position is predicated on the initial context that the left has grown violent in the last four years of Trump, though I admit it predates that to a large extent. I still maintain that in the period from, say 1980 to 2010, in total, the right was a lot more violent, even in the general, weighted sense. Wouldn't you agree that gunning down an abortion doctor has to be given a bit more weight than throwing a brick through a window?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14951

by Service Dog » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:15 pm

Thee Internet appears to have ID'd the purple shirt suspect (aka "Ruby" )-- from photos of her handbag which has the name of her vanity fashion label on the side.

Which leads to claimed-evidence that the 'blond braids' suspect is Ruby's daughter:

https://media.thedonald.win/post/Mxt3SHyj.jpeg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14950

by Service Dog » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:40 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Here's more footage, and it's highly suspicious
Same footage, arranged in a 360-degree composite view, with same narration:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14949

by Service Dog » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:27 pm

Craft project:

I bought this kid-sized guitar Tuesday, for $30.
It appears to have been stored in a damp basement for a decade.


After 3 days of modifying it,
current incarnation is on the left.
(full-size guitar on the right, for comparison)



~Replaced the short neck with a full-length, hefty 'baseball bat' neck, scavenged from a Bud Light grocery store beer aisle display. Sanded the finish on back of neck & rounded the fret-edges.
~Sanded, planed, gouged the shiny finish-- down to a matte chalkboard-texture. With yellow (polyurethane?) layer peeking thru. On the back, I took the polyurethane layer off. It was almost 1/16" thick! Was impervious to paint thinner, ether, blow-dryer. Breathed nasty dust: paper dust masks are useless. Skipped daily cigar, to let lungs recover. Body revealed to be crude home-depot grade plywood. Left back raw, for now.
~Swapped pick-ups & wiring with "lipstick" pick-ups & guts from a Danelectro bass guitar.
~Mostly no pickguard now, except a bit of clear plastic... cut from some kinda plastic packaging found in garbage... over the control cavity.
~scavenged replacement saddles. New strings. Set action & intonation. Some buzzy frets, so I re-raised the action until I feel like leveling the frets.
~added a second guitar-strap screw-thing on the bottom, so it can stand on those as 'feet' if I lean it against wall.

At first-- it didn't sound as good as 4 the broken-down guitars which were parts-donors.

But I took a nap & a shower-- came back to it & played with different amp settings & different pick-up positioning...

...and found a super-appealing, warm 'fuzz' tone. I was aiming-for a controlled-sounding 'clean' tone-- innocuous, like a doorbell.

But the fuzz is a nice surprise.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14948

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:38 pm

Correction: The suitcases with ballots were wheeled out and counted starting at 10:30 pm on election night, after the poll watchers were sent home, told counting would resume in the morning.

Here's more footage, and it's highly suspicious

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14947

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:21 pm

In Georgia, ballots in suitcases arrive the morning after election night, to be counted with not poll watchers present. These are the votes that put Biden over the top in GA.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:26 am

NB also the bogus comparison of every rightwing group over the past 25 years vs. just Antifa, which has only been active for about five, and only really got going with the violence shit six months ago. That, and they're a bunch of soy-weakened beanpoles who fight like girls. But give them time, they're just warming up and the establishment Dems put the track under green flag.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14945

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:36 am

Hunt cited:
... right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any....
That just proves the old adage, Don't bring a skateboard to a gun fight.

But seriously, now you've shifted the goalposts from 'violence' to killings. I think nightly lootings, vandalism, burnings, counts as violence. As does bashing someone over the head with a bicycle lock. Hitting cops with fireworks, blinding them with lasers. Pulling people from their cars and viciously beating them, pummeling old women with 2x4's, shattering old men's jaws with bricks -- that's violence, too, donchathink? And several people were murdered this year by BLM/Antifa rioters. I'll just remind you of one, David Dorn:




Dog wrote:
the Dayton Ohio shooter who called the El Paso guy a white supremecist fascist-- but thought a mass-shooting of his own would advance his gun-control agenda.
Also an environmentalist and Elizabeth Warren supporter.

Hunt:
I'd say some of that is a little hyperbolic (really? every institution must be destroyed?)
Their rhetoric is surely hyperbolic, but my summation of it is not:


"Our systems are more than broken. They be must dismantled and replaced.”

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14944

by Service Dog » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:56 am

Hunt-- you have been misinformed.

I clicked your link to see if it would rely on Seth Jones saying "The most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias..." and "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism threat." Those quotes have been a magic crucifix holy water & garlic-- endlessly wielded by those who tell you fiery looting riots are peaceful protests. Your link cites exactly-that, right at the top.

So I started writing this reply-- and the next thing which came to mind was the Black Hebrew Israelites shooting up that Jewish grocery store in Jersey City; and the Bernie Supporter who shot-up the Republican congressmen's softball game, and the Women's March organizer who kidnapped, ransomed, genital-tortured for weeks, and murdered a man. And the four blacks who kidnapped a retarded white kid and livestreamed torturing him while yelling 'Fuck Donald Trump'. The El Paso environmentalist mass-shooter quoting Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth' in his manifesto-- and the follow-up shooting by the Dayton Ohio shooter who called the El Paso guy a white supremecist fascist-- but thought a mass-shooting of his own would advance his gun-control agenda. And Dave Chapelle's post-George Floyd performance-- in which he lists all the blacks (often ex-cops & veterans) who went on shooting rampages against police officers... are those considered rightwingers or left?... howabout the attack on Jussie Smollet? You "heard about" it as rightwing violence-- but it was leftwing. And don't forget the packet of 'suspicious powder' which Jussie sent to himself & reported as racist hatemail. Whatabout the Boston Marathon bombers-- their grievances were the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan & dissatisfaction with their experience as immigrants to the US. Rightwing? Leftwing?

I think the term "whatabout-ism" is often employed poorly: for example-- when Boko Haram kidnapped schoolgirls inspiring Michelle Obama's #BringBackOurGirls moment. And others pointed out that the schoolboys from that school weren't kidnapped-- they had been executed. Saying "that's whataboutism" doesn't make the latter critique disappear. but but but...

...you mention abortion clinic bombings. When was the last abortion clinic bombing? Like... 1997? Over the last 2 decades, the main terrorism threat posed by abortion clinic bombing is the threat of a Whataboutism Bomb being dropped by Leftwingers on any mention of Islamic Terror Attacks in the US. "Oh, yeah? Well... What about abortion clinic bombings" boom!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14943

by Hunt » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:38 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: The Left also is aggressively anti-free speech, has begun to implement lunatic soft-on-crime policies in the cities they control, seek a massive influx of immigrants, have declared every American institution irredeemably racist and in need of demolition and replacement, and have indocrinated a generation of youth into the insane quasi-religious cult of Critical Theory, Equity, and Diversity. I'd say all of that is fairly excessive.
I'd say some of that is a little hyperbolic (really? every institution must be destroyed?) but point taken; I've ranted about such for years here.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Care to share some numbers for that body count?
Do I really need to give numbers for you to know this is generally true? Well, here's "329" from some article I just googled:

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-w ... one-2020-7

But really, anyone generally aware of things should know this is basically true. Every time you hear of an abortion clinic bombing, abortion doctor murder, militia killing, nut flying plane into gov't building, etc., a little bird on your shoulder should chirp: "right winger, right winger".

The left isn't totally innocent. I seem to recall a radical environmental group offing someone here and there. And the case can be made that the Unibomber was left wing--insane, but left wing.

But yeah, this should be pretty obvious.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14942

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14941

by Brive1987 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:19 pm

This one’s a keeper.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14940

by Brive1987 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:14 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Weapons can hurt.
It’s been a few decades.

But my enduring memory of the first time I fired an M16 at the range (instead of a standard issue SLR) was:
+ Being disconcerted that I could actually hear the spring go **wibble wooble** in my ear when firing
+ Realising I wouldn’t now have to develop more muscle before firing in the “standing unsupported” position
+ Laughing at a weapon that required a bolt assist mechanism
+ Wondering why anyone would design a dust-flap that hung open (cue the Kardishian jokes)

That said they were dangerous. They used brass blanks and I remember when during a staged ambush one night my “pit partner” discharged 60 of them against the side of my head during the “two magazines on auto into the killing zone” mad moment. I was instantly “anxious and irritable”.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:17 pm

So, this project veritas thing? Is it an independent body? Where do the $$$ come from? I assume that all the claims of gaylords of votes are fully documented?

Tell me more...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:07 pm

I also can't remember putting my name up for President, so I really have no means to determine whether the masses prefer billionaires and plutocrats over me.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14937

by KiwiInOz » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:05 pm

Service Dog wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: I am constantly surprised (fool me twice, etc) at the hoi polloi who vote in the belief that the interests of plutocrats and billionaires align with theirs.
Your leftwing certainty-- that you know what's good for the niggers and deplorables (better than they know-for-themselves)-- is the very reason they prefer billionaires and plutocrats, over you.
Where in my statement did I a) imply that I had left wing certainty, or b) imply that I don't consider myself a member of the hoi polloi? I merely noted that the interests of plutocrats and billionaires very rarely align with the interests of the masses.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14936

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:37 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: I am constantly surprised (fool me twice, etc) at the hoi polloi who vote in the belief that the interests of plutocrats and billionaires align with theirs.

Your leftwing certainty-- that you know what's good for the niggers and deplorables (better than they know-for-themselves)-- is the very reason they prefer billionaires and plutocrats, over you.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14935

by Keating » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:42 pm

Granted, it does depend on how you define "left" and "right", and I'll certainly agree that anything that Bill Kristol likes is guaranteed to be actually terrible. I'd also say that anything George Soros or Charles Koch likes are probably shit too.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14934

by KiwiInOz » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:17 pm

I'm sure that there are some numbers on the deaths caused through the invasions, coups formented, and wars engaged in by your right wing Democrat Governments and your right wing Republican Governments.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14933

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:54 pm

Hunt wrote:
Keating wrote: Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.
I can't speak to other countries, but here in the US "excesses of the left" really boils down to the fact that in the last four years the left has become violent again, after a nearly forty year hiatus. The last time American left was really violent was in the days of Patty Hearst and The Weather Underground (no, not a secretive news broadcasting agency).
The Left also is aggressively anti-free speech, has begun to implement lunatic soft-on-crime policies in the cities they control, seek a massive influx of immigrants, have declared every American institution irredeemably racist and in need of demolition and replacement, and have indocrinated a generation of youth into the insane quasi-religious cult of Critical Theory, Equity, and Diversity. I'd say all of that is fairly excessive.

While the American right has racked up a steady body count for decades.
Care to share some numbers for that body count?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14932

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:33 pm

John D wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:50 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:39 pm
That Arizona hearing was such a waste of my time.
Michigan is a completely different story.
These people are better than The Simpsons townfolk.
And they tell their stories like Patrice O'Neal.
► Show Spoiler
The woman describes a fairly typical contractor in my experience. Contractual obligations and standards are things that apply when inspectors and cameras are around and temp staff training is an unnecessary expense.
Some of my state's finest.... haha.

Michigan has a large number of people who think things that happen in government are always corrupt. Sometimes I go to city council meetings and there is inevitably some guy who takes up 15 minutes of the question period... railing about some specific contract that he is sure was fraud. He has no proof... just a long string of odd claims. Finally the council has to tell him to leave because other people have questions. He goes away sore and is convinced he was just about to make a breakthrough except the politicians shut him down. He will return for the next meeting and make the same claim... haha. (Of course.... sometimes the government is corrupt... but you are not going to prove anything just by bitching). So, what we see at these hearings is a long list of those same people talking about things looking "fishy".

I agree that the blond contractor had some strange nest on her head. The other people looked pretty normal to me... haha... so I guess this is just how we look around here. Animal prints are always a good choice!

Our famous ladies in Michigan set the tone. Lately, women in their 50s enjoy wearing leather jackets. GMs CEO, Mary Barra, loves wearing a leather bomber jacket. It cracks me up. The governor, and secretary of state, and attorney general are all ovulaters in Michigan. The Gretch also loves to wear leather. Ovulaters everywhere you look....with leather. Bitches gotta be tough in their biker clothes at work.

https://fortune.com/2019/02/19/leather- ... er-outfit/
Just to clarify, as it looks as if I didn't make my point very clearly, I think the description of Dominion's performance given by the witness represented typical contractor behaviour.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14931

by windy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 pm

Service Dog wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:00 am
Paranoid right-winger conspiracy theory-- called the "Great Reset"-- says covid is being used as a pretext for globalist redistribution of wealth, reshaping of entire society. Justin Trudeau agrees:
don't worry, be happy

https://preview.redd.it/no4ma673fiv51.p ... d657788a04

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14930

by Hunt » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:37 pm

Keating wrote: Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.
I can't speak to other countries, but here in the US "excesses of the left" really boils down to the fact that in the last four years the left has become violent again, after a nearly forty year hiatus. The last time American left was really violent was in the days of Patty Hearst and The Weather Underground (no, not a secretive news broadcasting agency). While the American right has racked up a steady body count for decades.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14929

by Hunt » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:32 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: I am constantly surprised (fool me twice, etc) at the hoi polloi who vote in the belief that the interests of plutocrats and billionaires align with theirs.
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This is a plain ol' leftover of secret monarch yearning and plebian adoration of their betters. Americans nominally shook that off, but there's still plenty of idol worship left; just look at the Hollywood scene.

The ugly fact is that humans kiss up to their "betters," hate their peers who "make good". This was a significant aspect to Bill Clinton hatred.

It's true that sometimes aristocrats become friend to the commoner through some kind of innate or earned insight, but these are few and far between. Take Franklin Roosevelt, for instance. But Trump ain't no Roosevelt. We'd do better with Bill Gates. Way better.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14928

by Keating » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:00 pm

Maybe that's true, but why can't it be the excesses of the left that are curtailed to stop reinforcing the feedback loop? We've had a leftward drift for nearly a century.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14927

by KiwiInOz » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:55 pm

Service Dog wrote: snip

Trump's shitty behavior might be a response to the increased power of the radicals on the left

snip
Or there is a reinforcing feedback loop leading to escalation. As such, the behaviour builds exponentially, and potential outcomes include war, totalitarianism, and revolution.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14926

by KiwiInOz » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:47 pm

Service Dog wrote:
Hunt wrote: I have to say, I don't see the appeal. To be honest, in 2016 I was open to being surprised. Maybe the guy was going to surprise us with innovative, groundbreaking ideas. I never thought he was a terrible guy and actually kind of liked his personality. Yes, he was rich and born rich. All the baggage that that entails impinged on my opinion as a left-winger, but I was still willing to give him a chance. Since then, he basically showed his policies were garden variety rewarmed Republican left-overs. Tax cuts for rich, tax cuts for bidness, anti-environmentalism, trickle down. It was really a major disappointment for me. I saw nothing new and was left with his personality, which was, increasingly, venal, arrogant, narcissistic, utterly un-presidential.

Maybe you have reasons to like him, maybe you saw something different. I don't think I have TDS or ever did; perhaps you can explain the appeal. What did you see that I didn't?

I found this post to be enlightening.

On one hand-- you fault Trump for not being 'innovative', 'groundbreaking', for offering the same-old policies.

On the other hand-- your own thinking, as-expressed in the post-- is the same-old normie critique:
The "Trickle Down" complaint emerged when Mr. T was a a hot, new celebrity. :character-mrt:
"Bidness" was newspaper columnist Molly Ivins' term for big business intersecting with politics... back during Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton. She died 13 years ago. :character-oldtimer:

I agree with your assessment that Trump was too-willing to employ disappointing, re-warmed Republican Leftovers like John Bolton and Jeff Sessions; and the same-old polices they represent. Many who put faith in Trump wondered why he did that.

The part that's enlightening is--

--maybe people like you are the reason Trump was so-often mired in the same old crap from the past. He was pandering to people who still see 'the Republicans' as a useful monolithic term. Still see 'trickle-down' as a relevant theory (whether they're for or against it). Still think 'environmentalists' are opponents of corporate greed-- (environmentalism evolved into a greedy corporate machine, long ago).

And that's why We Can't Have Unconventional Things.
I am constantly surprised (fool me twice, etc) at the hoi polloi who vote in the belief that the interests of plutocrats and billionaires align with theirs.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14925

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:58 pm

mordacious1 wrote: Why I Liked Trump: He was entertaining. Nonstop. Everyday for four years.
Caveat: If Biden starts drooling down the front of his shirt while giving a speech, he wins the entertainment portion of our contest.
That settles it. We have a winner.
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/1 ... ess-event/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14924

by mordacious1 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:37 pm

Why I Liked Trump: He was entertaining. Nonstop. Everyday for four years.
Caveat: If Biden starts drooling down the front of his shirt while giving a speech, he wins the entertainment portion of our contest.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14923

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:16 pm

I've got today's Lin Wood/ Sydney Powell press conference --streaming in a background window. It's wild. It makes a Trump Rally seem like a nursing home.

Over the top prayers-- mixing God with Trump and Guns. A bombastic national anthem performance. Speakers being introduced like a boxing match-- "In this cor-ner! Let's get ready to rummmmmbbbbleeeee!" Syndey Powell was introduced as "The Kraken"... crowd-work worthy of pro-wrestling.

If you wondered what QAnon was all about-- I now think it was a placeholder. A significant portion of the mob had a famished appetite for Answers to the Grand Conspiracy they're sure is all-around them. On the Left they have Patriarchy and Capitalism and Systematic Institutional Unconscious Racism to blame. On the right-- they listened to QAnon like on-hold music... until this Stolen Election provided a Feeding Frenzy of meaty stuff to sink their teeth into.

Less unsettling: the Georgia run-off race is the post-season Superbowl of this election, and Lin Wood & Sydney Powell are responding appropriately-- but getting back-into Political Campaign Mode... this is a big loud election rally, with vague patriotic speeches... designed to win the election. So don't miss the point by complaining that they're just dropping applause lines about the Kraken and the Troops and the Lord.... to rally their voters. Business as usual. (But they -are- playing with fire).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14922

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:02 pm

John D wrote: 1) increased the power of radicals on the left... as a response to Trump's shitty behavior.
Trump's shitty behavior might be a response to the increased power of the radicals on the left

For example--- a best-behavior from Trump-- was when he responded to Charlottesville by denouncing the racist right/ but said there were good-people-on-both-sides of debate about confederate statues & flags. He called for union, not civil war.

Then the newly-powerful radical-left mainstream media-- flipped Trump's words backward in a years-long propaganda lie-campaign.

They denied Trump the High Road... so he re-routed. He went off-road. And they screamed bloody murder. And, yeah, it made normal people like you feel unsettled... rightly so.

But I don't think Trump has taken the Low Road. He never told MAGA hat wearing mobs to lynch Jussie Smollett, etc. Not like Bernie Sanders endorsing Antifa in October 2020, or Minnesota Secretary of State posting a selfie holding-up his Antifa Handbook.

Today I see Trump saying he'll be back in 2024. Trump haters won't see what a gift that is to national peace and unity. He's telling his supporters to chill the fuck out and wait 4 years... and there will still be normal elections in 2024. He's not saying democracy has been kidnapped and it's time to rise up and seize it back with guns. He's not doing all the shit people-like-Obama accused him of-- like barricading himself into the White House-- to be removed by the Navy Seals. That's another radical-left insane-conspiracy provocation... and Trump is just reacting to it.

Like I said to Hunt... do we really wanna complain when Trump is more-of-the-same? All talk no bite. Would we prefer actual rabid biting?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14921

by John D » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:35 am

It is a policy thing for me.

Why I liked Trump:

1) significantly reduced regulation
2) no action on climate change (I think we should take no action on climate change.... honestly)
3) promote Israel as the foundation of Middle East peace
4) fucked China.... at least as much as possible give his limited options
5) pushed against illegal immigration... as much as possible given his limited options
6) pushed against the BS that police are basically racist including trying to end oversight

Why I didn't like Trump:

1) increased the power of radicals on the left... as a response to Trump's shitty behavior.
2) made limited progress on healthcare funding/restructuring

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14920

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:53 am

Hunt wrote: I have to say, I don't see the appeal. To be honest, in 2016 I was open to being surprised. Maybe the guy was going to surprise us with innovative, groundbreaking ideas. I never thought he was a terrible guy and actually kind of liked his personality. Yes, he was rich and born rich. All the baggage that that entails impinged on my opinion as a left-winger, but I was still willing to give him a chance. Since then, he basically showed his policies were garden variety rewarmed Republican left-overs. Tax cuts for rich, tax cuts for bidness, anti-environmentalism, trickle down. It was really a major disappointment for me. I saw nothing new and was left with his personality, which was, increasingly, venal, arrogant, narcissistic, utterly un-presidential.

Maybe you have reasons to like him, maybe you saw something different. I don't think I have TDS or ever did; perhaps you can explain the appeal. What did you see that I didn't?

I found this post to be enlightening.

On one hand-- you fault Trump for not being 'innovative', 'groundbreaking', for offering the same-old policies.

On the other hand-- your own thinking, as-expressed in the post-- is the same-old normie critique:
The "Trickle Down" complaint emerged when Mr. T was a a hot, new celebrity. :character-mrt:
"Bidness" was newspaper columnist Molly Ivins' term for big business intersecting with politics... back during Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton. She died 13 years ago. :character-oldtimer:

I agree with your assessment that Trump was too-willing to employ disappointing, re-warmed Republican Leftovers like John Bolton and Jeff Sessions; and the same-old polices they represent. Many who put faith in Trump wondered why he did that.

The part that's enlightening is--

--maybe people like you are the reason Trump was so-often mired in the same old crap from the past. He was pandering to people who still see 'the Republicans' as a useful monolithic term. Still see 'trickle-down' as a relevant theory (whether they're for or against it). Still think 'environmentalists' are opponents of corporate greed-- (environmentalism evolved into a greedy corporate machine, long ago).

And that's why We Can't Have Unconventional Things.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14919

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:48 am

100K ballots back-dated by USPS in Wisconsin appear day after election, truck driver set up to take the fall for 'forgetting' to deliver them on election day:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14918

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 am

Why were crate loads of completed ballots being shipped from New York to Pennsylvania in late October?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14917

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:03 am

Project Veritas releasing recordings of CNN executive conference calls, one a day.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14916

by Service Dog » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:57 am

John D wrote: Lately, women in their 50s enjoy wearing leather jackets.
Similar to a longstanding look among rich older ladies on the upper east side... I started calling them 'unintentional dominatrixes' because another truck driver used to spot them on sidewalks & crosswalks... and he'd mumble "oh you dirty old minx, you!" like Bill Murray in Caddyshack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9XcXniI3JQ

It's the usual rich old lady look... but with a random assortment of spike heeled black boots-- to the knee. belts made of chains, military epaulets. Leather gloves... all sorts of ways to look like a fascist dictator.

https://images.nymag.com/news/features/ ... _3_560.jpg


Maybe the middle-aged-rebel women you're describing... are in the early-stages of the old-age pinochet women I'm describing.

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Women like to fortify their tuff edge by dabbling in manly symbolism. Decades ago, actual Cowboys begat Western movies, and cowboy fashion for men. Which provided a ready-made setting for western Romance Novels, and women donning cowboy boots & hats & such. Eventually-- the female version is far more ongoing than the male original.

As tattoos shift from sailors-only ...to more-men ...to majority of women --eventually getting a tattoo might be as feminine-only as wearing make-up. The men who decorate themselves with tatttoos will be dabbling in femininity. Maybe we're already there-- seems like women aren't limiting themselves to flowers and dolphins... they're embracing 'stick-and-poke' prison-tattoos now.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14915

by Hunt » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:21 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: I must admit that I have been quite disappointed that Trump might well be out, but then if what people supposedly in the know are saying he is far from the petulant child some people like to think he is and is responding well to the situation. He has really had his eyes opened now to the disloyalty around him. He would very likely purge a lot of people he should have purged a long time ago with a second term, but he'd still be an outsider without a really loyal staff around him. He must have realised now that McConnell and co. have used him to install justices favourable to the establishment GOP. If he does what some have speculated and builds a real political movement he might come back much stronger and politically aware in 2024. The haters who assume he will slink off in accordance with their expectations may be in for a surprise. Who knows.

Whatever happens the veil has been pulled back enough that permanent change is probable. Let Biden sell off a bit more US family silverware to the Chinese, drone strike a few more kids, spy on a few more of his compatriots, dip his oar in to fuck up Brexit and re-introduce as many time-honoured failed policies as he can because he and his administration will hopefully not last long.
I have to say, I don't see the appeal. To be honest, in 2016 I was open to being surprised. Maybe the guy was going to surprise us with innovative, groundbreaking ideas. I never thought he was a terrible guy and actually kind of liked his personality. Yes, he was rich and born rich. All the baggage that that entails impinged on my opinion as a left-winger, but I was still willing to give him a chance. Since then, he basically showed his policies were garden variety rewarmed Republican left-overs. Tax cuts for rich, tax cuts for bidness, anti-environmentalism, trickle down. It was really a major disappointment for me. I saw nothing new and was left with his personality, which was, increasingly, venal, arrogant, narcissistic, utterly un-presidential.

Maybe you have reasons to like him, maybe you saw something different. I don't think I have TDS or ever did; perhaps you can explain the appeal. What did you see that I didn't?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14914

by John D » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:50 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:39 pm
That Arizona hearing was such a waste of my time.
Michigan is a completely different story.
These people are better than The Simpsons townfolk.
And they tell their stories like Patrice O'Neal.
► Show Spoiler
The woman describes a fairly typical contractor in my experience. Contractual obligations and standards are things that apply when inspectors and cameras are around and temp staff training is an unnecessary expense.
Some of my state's finest.... haha.

Michigan has a large number of people who think things that happen in government are always corrupt. Sometimes I go to city council meetings and there is inevitably some guy who takes up 15 minutes of the question period... railing about some specific contract that he is sure was fraud. He has no proof... just a long string of odd claims. Finally the council has to tell him to leave because other people have questions. He goes away sore and is convinced he was just about to make a breakthrough except the politicians shut him down. He will return for the next meeting and make the same claim... haha. (Of course.... sometimes the government is corrupt... but you are not going to prove anything just by bitching). So, what we see at these hearings is a long list of those same people talking about things looking "fishy".

I agree that the blond contractor had some strange nest on her head. The other people looked pretty normal to me... haha... so I guess this is just how we look around here. Animal prints are always a good choice!

Our famous ladies in Michigan set the tone. Lately, women in their 50s enjoy wearing leather jackets. GMs CEO, Mary Barra, loves wearing a leather bomber jacket. It cracks me up. The governor, and secretary of state, and attorney general are all ovulaters in Michigan. The Gretch also loves to wear leather. Ovulaters everywhere you look....with leather. Bitches gotta be tough in their biker clothes at work.

https://fortune.com/2019/02/19/leather- ... er-outfit/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#14913

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:12 am

Service Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:39 pm
That Arizona hearing was such a waste of my time.
Michigan is a completely different story.
These people are better than The Simpsons townfolk.
And they tell their stories like Patrice O'Neal.
► Show Spoiler
The woman describes a fairly typical contractor in my experience. Contractual obligations and standards are things that apply when inspectors and cameras are around and temp staff training is an unnecessary expense.

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