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by KiwiInOz
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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MarcusAu wrote: The place has gone to pot since 1066.
I blame the French.
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Fortunately herd mentality is going to sort out the covid thing that Trump upped biggly.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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This girl is an amazingly talented drummer/musician and Dave Grohl even wrote a song about her -
by KiwiInOz
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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I've had vertigo all day -- I was told it may due to the high CO2 content of the air and shallow breathing due to the air smelling like an ashtray. Apparently the winds will switch to SW tomorrow, helping us Californians. Fuck Nevada. Bollocks. CO2 is an invisible, odourless, plant food. Don't give...
by KiwiInOz
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 13535
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And what's with the bees? Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be, But half the bee has got to be, vis a vis, its entity (d'you see?) But can a bee be said to be, or not to be an, entire bee When half the bee is not a bee, due to some ancient injury. I like traffic lights. <heads> ...
by KiwiInOz
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Don't worry, Matt. Big-city activists to the rescue! WHAT DO WE WANT? CLIMATE JUSTICE! WHEN DO WE WANT IT? NOW! This was posted on my block: https://i.imgur.com/JRyU6Gi.jpeg You're welcome! Conversely, to ignore the climate signature and go yeah whatever is the equivalent of saying InShallah. And t...
by KiwiInOz
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: How much of a man does Charlie Sheen count for? He has Tiger blood. Kiwis, on the other hand, are small, green on the inside and covered in fur.
Yeah, and we come on pavlova.

:whistle:
by KiwiInOz
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: You are 1.5 people, yes.
Yes. My inner voice is only half the man that I am.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: What about half breeds? I've never been sure if I count as a POC or non-POC.

Me too. I'm half English, half Irish, and half Scottish.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Bhurzum wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Trump downplayed the problem and just hoped it would go away. He fucked up.
He turned me into a newt!
You've always been a newt.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Looks like another powerful film offering from NZ.



And this one was a much underrated but quite excellent movie.

by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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snip You're such a nice, trusting individual, Andrew. I instantly assumed Kiwi, the sneaky little weasel, was "baiting the hook" with his question. Hence my meme-response. Just to add to what Andrew has already stated, being "ratioed" on twatter is a tell-tale sign or indicator that the OP has said...
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:31 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Bhurzum wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: What do the comments about ratios mean?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... Q&usqp=CAU
And curious was the cat.
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 13535
Views: 1855162

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The comments...Christ, the comments! https://twitter.com/UN/status/1302593895029714944 :lol: :lol: :lol: What do the comments about ratios mean? 1.5K Retweets 9.8K Quote Tweets 3K Likes The ratio is between the number of retweets (1.5K Retweets) and the replies (9.8K Quote Tweets). Thanks. I'm not ...
by KiwiInOz
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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This is what a proper Shire Reeve should look like. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney-fan-fiction/images/c/cf/Sheriff_of_Nottingham_2.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/258?cb=20161104204924 Or this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/44ed4ca92691d74385bad2aed883d72ce694af46.jpg None ...
by KiwiInOz
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Bhurzum wrote: The comments...Christ, the comments!



:lol: :lol: :lol:
What do the comments about ratios mean?
by KiwiInOz
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Fascinating and eminently rational Quillete podcast with Buck Angel - https://quillette.com/2020/09/02/podcas ... gical-sex/
by KiwiInOz
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:24 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Tbf, I do word associate whelk's dick with PZ Myers.
by KiwiInOz
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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It's people like you that are blind to deaf culture. You just don't hear what they're saying. And I love you, too. So, what shall we do about the Novichok? "Merkel urged to act" and "Merkel has the Mettle to Stare Down Putin" say the headlines in The Times. But what can or should she do? I'd be sen...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:00 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote:
Melbourne is the worst place in Australia, and I've long advocated nuking it. Snip
I feel the same way about Canberra.
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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ANTONY: Blood and destruction shall be so in use And dreadful objects so familiar That mothers shall but smile when they behold Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war; All pity choked with custom of fell deeds: And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell,...
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Service Dog wrote: Oh man... "Antifa torches Portland mayor's apartment on his birthday"
You can't appease the mob, no matter how righteous you are.

"Cry 'Havoc!,' and let slip the dogs of war.
by KiwiInOz
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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https://www.bullshido.net/anatomy-of-a-catastrophe/ A fair assessment. Everyone made poor choices. Bullshido gets the facts wrong. Does that alter your view of the assessment? -It's not illegal in Wisconsin for a 17 year old to carry a long gun in those circumstances. -The pejoratives 'LARPer', 'ob...
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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This explains a lot.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Oh, and thanks for your helping hand. I wasn't aware of this site before - I like it.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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HelpingHand wrote: https://www.bullshido.net/anatomy-of-a-catastrophe/

A fair assessment. Everyone made poor choices.
Seems fair and balanced.

Numpties to the left and cockwombles to right, stuck in the middle with you.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: Meh. Ethnicity doesn't really matter. What matters is culture, and ethnicity is a coarse proxy for culture.
https://peterpix.files.wordpress.com/20 ... c_5455.jpg

Bhurzum doxxed.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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I was musing yesterday that use of the term person or people of colour implies that white is the rule/default and that any other skin colour is the exception.
by KiwiInOz
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Thanks all. There is so much fud coming from all sides that it's hard to know what's what. Truth being the first casualty when ideologies conflict.
by KiwiInOz
Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Can any of you internet lawyers tell me whether that 17 yo was legally allowed to do open carry of that rifle in the State (or whatever relevant jurisdiction) he was in?
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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MarcusAu wrote:
John D wrote: Don't the dog in New Zealand bite?
No - it's familiar with everyone there.
Even the post man.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Brive1987 wrote: snip

I've watched Midsomer Murders, so I know that all is not as it seems in this bucolic image.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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I'm enjoying the last good Chief Minister the ACT has had shitting all over the current one: https://citynews.com.au/2020/stuffed-budget-has-act-on-road-to-bankruptcy/ They're from the same party too, as the ACT is a one party territory. I'll be rioting in October when this mob isn't thrown out bec...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Another video showing the Unarmed Black Man resisting arrest. Oh, and also a gaggle of Black Women calling each other bitches and hos: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1297866797060771842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1297866797060771842%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fny...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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So... my thoughts... if anyone cares. I don't have my concealed carry permit (since the classes have been shutdown due to Covid). I would not have my Glock in public unless I was open carrying (which I think is a terrible idea). Hopefully I will start to concealed carry within the next few months. ...
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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free thoughtpolice wrote: orca&amp;seal.PNG
Orca tennis?
by KiwiInOz
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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What in the actual fuck? https://twitter.com/TraceyFLGirl/status/1295571751687073794 Is that even English? Sorry, "American-English" as our septic tank cousins call it. Has she suffered major brain damage or something? Also, and this is what truly confuses me, why would anyone look up to or seek ad...
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:40 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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mordacious1 wrote: One solution to female obesity issues (taking the US as a whole, not individuals), is to increase immigration from Asian countries and decrease immigration from Central America and Mexico. Just my personal observation.
Whaling could be brought back as an industry.
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Gumby wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Did Trump's brother die of a Covid 19 related cause?
No one has said yet. However, the leftists on Twitter have already done the autopsy and decided that Trump killed his brother with Covid.
I heard that it was a false flag op by Killary and Mustapha Obama.
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Did Trump's brother die of a Covid 19 related cause?
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:22 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: At the same time.
No way. Do you think that I'm a glutton?

I save my doughnuts for afters.
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:21 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Bhurzum wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: I choose D.
Buy me dinner first, Bhurzum, and then we'll see.
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Brive1987 wrote: A brave move which it seems you have pulled off.

But the odds are not generally in your favour.

Thanks for doxxing me. I thought nobody on the internet would know that I was an obese adult female, aged between 20 and 74, in the USA.
by KiwiInOz
Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:11 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Brive1987 wrote:
I choose D. All of the above.
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD The role of “emperor” underwent considerable evolution over the centuries. As did the form and function of the British Empire. I wouldn’t equate Augustus with a fixed and finished form. Dude couldn’t even sort the succession out properly. I always though tha...
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD The role of “emperor” underwent considerable evolution over the centuries. As did the form and function of the British Empire. I wouldn’t equate Augustus with a fixed and finished form. Dude couldn’t even sort the succession out properly. I always though tha...
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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snip Did you post that link because you thought it was a well-presented argument, or just that you liked the conclusion? You would have been better off making the case yourself. snip You ask my motivation for posting the link. Let's see. I thought that it was an interesting piece of analysis, albei...
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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But then Suharto was also a beneficiary. Whether he was an opportunist or intended beneficiary is a question yet to be answered.
by KiwiInOz
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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My friend's grandfather was one of the six generals captured and killed by the 30 September Movement militants in 1965. In the movie version, 30 September was a failed communist coup attempt, against the dictator. Which was also the dictator's official version. Resulting in the dictator killing a h...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies: Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president. But I closely observed Kamala Harris' rut...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:13 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Behold. The American dream . It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". ... Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions.... probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are. I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issue...
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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It chooses you, you don't choose it.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Service Dog wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
Smoookin'YeeeahBabbyBooyashaka.jpg

:bjarte:
Skux life, bro. Skux life.
by KiwiInOz
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Behold. The American dream . It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". However, I'll give him some credit for amusingly looking like a younger versi...
by KiwiInOz
Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Brive1987 wrote:
Sometimes the 1% comes in.
by KiwiInOz
Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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John D wrote: Driftless = not funny sarcasm.
I thought that it was pretty good.
by KiwiInOz
Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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It's almost as if we are dealing globally with an emerging issue of some complexity. That is, there are no simple answers or unchanging answers over time as more information comes in, and anyone who promises there are should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town. As with most complex systems, th...