If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

So we're schisming into new factions at an exponential rate? First, we were all atheists, then two groups (gnu vs. accommodationists) then we layered on A+ to make four. A few more splits and even the Amish will be a match for us online. Well it's not like atheists were all one big faction in the f...

Yet, several atheists I have encountered have no problem endorsing all sorts of woo-woo stuff, from quasi-new age creeds to â€œalternativeâ€ medicine, to fantapolitics. This is partly because many of them seem to be ignorant of the epistemic limits of science (in which they have almost unbounded f...

Iâ€™m not sure that it is wise or appropriate to go as far as suggesting or arguing that Hensley should be removed from her position with the CFI â€“ even though I was sort of leaning that way; kind of gets into a case of â€œthe pot calling the kettle blackâ€ in the context of the situation with J...

That was fun for a while. Coyneâ€™s place also helped balance things. The â€œWally Smithâ€-affair helped even more. Ophelia Benson was a hero by standing up to the Colgate Twins, and Kazez/Stangroom looked bad for supporting Mooney. What the hell happened? I am here because â€“ basically â€“ I agr...

I was bopping around looking for different info on teh blag and found this old post of mine. http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2010/11/26/cool-scientists-2/ lols. That's why I'm a little bewildered by all the people saying "where's all this SJW shit coming from, it's totally new to me!" It's been right t...

Does anyone know if Hensley's done anything, beyond her stints on Twitter and Facebook where she endorses bullying and harassment campaigns? Has she ever done any good, substantial work? Her bio on the Women in Secularism speaker list says this: Melody Hensley is the executive director of CFIâ€“Was...

Skep tickle wrote:ceepolk's comment on the offbeatempire post:
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 027#p34027

Before reading that I had guessed it would contain some of this. I was a little surprised (I know, I shouldn't be) that the whole post was nothing but that meme in forum post form.

Have any of you guys seen this meme? I'm sure you have - I am behind the times. http://fuckyeahsocialjusticesally.tumblr.com/ http://fuckyeahsocialjusticesally.tumblr.com/post/36375817171/if-you-refuse-to-call-a-creationist-an-idiot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md1ovpa4dI1rp5jfvo1_500.jpg "If ...

Skinny Puppy at RatSkep seems to have a handle on it: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/nontheism/atheism-hits-the-msm-t33705-3940.html#p1524890 http://www.rationalskepticism.org/nontheism/atheism-hits-the-msm-t33705-4360.html#p1538728 http://i.imgur.com/zvhrd.png http://i.imgur.com/jSbPA.png http:...

What happens in the atheism+ headquarters.
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Al Stefanelli wrote:Courtesy of Maria Maltseva (@bluharmony)

(snip How Privileged Are You? image)

Being part of the police force decreases your privilege?

The "Reed vs. Half-fish" parts of the minority thread are also comedy gold. Waitâ€¦ â€œinnumerableâ€ gay men and lesbians went through the immense expense and difficulty (and social stigma!) of transition for the sake of dodging the social stigma of being gay? Citation badly needed. I chose the wor...

From Scented Nectar's archive of the old thread: Sorry, but I disagree. Intellectual honesty and the ability to have open discussion without feeling obligated to coddle individuals or avoid angering famous people is more important to me than being seen as an asshole. Rebecca's remarks were not off ...

Ya, it is amazing how much free time PhD students have, especially those in the sciences. What year is Jen now, 2nd year? She should be busy taking classes (to be fair University of Washington classes do not start until late September), TAing, starting up her research project, preparing for her qua...

http://isgodasquirrel.blogspot.se/2012/ ... ictim.html

Jenny Titwobble's latest. TRIGGER WARNING for women who have just experienced a torrent of abuse based around a crazy internet person's made-up descriptions of them doing blowjobs and that. Postby BlagHag Â» Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:07 pm I just spent an hour screencapping and deleting 50+ comments that ...

An interesting story here, found via the JREF forum, about a cyberbully who has been taken down the way they should be - by the law. Sue at DC Women Kicking Ass has said sheâ€™s been harassed by this guy for a couple of years now. â€œHeâ€™s been harassing women for two years using male and female n...

Does anyone have the stamina to listen to the whole of Justicar's video ? I enjoy his videos. I don't get the "stamina" comment... they are (compared to his writing) very concise. Justicar's videos are better than most, and certainly better than his ranty rants, but I personally don't have much of ...

Couple of questions though, Josh: You ok with someone describing some black person who, say, might sell other black people out for political purposes as an â€œUncle Tomâ€? He is. Oppressed people will always find ways to escape the worst of their lot by finding positions of relative power within t...

Steersman wrote:But, out of curiosity, how do you do the screen-cap thing? The best Iâ€™ve been able to come up with is screen-capture, edit with Paint and then post to TinyPic or the like. Correct? Or a quicker way?

That's what I do, with IrfanView and Imgur.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2012/08/29/legitimate-differences-of-opinion/#comment-115062 A null hypothesis cannot possibly be radical. A null hypothesis, by definition, isnâ€™t proposing anything or making any claims about the universe. ... Similarly, we are making NO CLAIM WHATSOEVER...

In case some of you are wondering about my judgement of LeftSidePositive, I offer the following. You can at least gain some understanding as to how her world view is constructed. Note the sources. Some of them are pretty blatant about their agenda. No critical thought or scepticism required either....

AndrewV69 wrote: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-115754

Further down, and Steersman posted this before but it needs to be screencapped and posted again:
http://i.imgur.com/5S6br.png

"Mostly not here"? In response to skeptifem?

That (large) comic is still accessible via the Wayback Machine . Thanks for the link, Falk, though I didn't really want to relive that particular experience. But I did anyway. :-? Notice the difference between Beaton's actual tweets and the "excruciatingly polite, brief comments" depicted in the co...

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. The above message is what I see on some posts when viewing a topic. In this case it is the Periodic Table of Swearing thread and seems to happen only on CommanderTuvok's posts for some reason.:( All other attached ima...

Did she not understand that these were not actual real proposals of marriage? I mean... uhgmgmm. Interesting that now if we're to believe her that all these men who wanted to marry her now want to rape her. Or something. Or is she now seeing these fan letters as people trying to harrass her? It's l...

Rayshul: Thanks for linking to that "Social Justice Warriors: Do Not Engage" blog. In this timeline of "Racefail 09" a few things look quite...familiar: August, 2007. In "Blog Against Racism" week, many bloggers wrote about race as though it had nothing to do with class. I argued this is like writin...

That Soressi is scary. "I'm gonna make you feel fear the same way women (supposedly) feel fear everyday." Reminds me of comments like "I hope you get raped so you will accept feminism." A comment on GWW's article linked to his good summary of Elevatorgate. An interesting addendum at the end: I was m...

Mr Danksworth wrote:You should go and pay them a visit. Tell them to check their white privilege and mention the infantilizing aspects of of their first world problems.

How much do you bet that they'll call Onen a race traitor? (Have they already?)

JackRayner wrote:I've spectated on feminists battling over these things. Kind of entertaining, and I'm puzzled as to why the FftB'ers haven't already gotten to it.

They have a common enemy (slimepitters and nonaplussers) uniting them. Once that common enemy is gone/forgotten...

I was browsing around the RDF store today (thinking about buying a deadtree copy of Greta's book) and I saw that they're selling the "We Are All Africans" shirts. I saw a bunch of these at Reason Rally this year and really liked them. Now, however, I'm wondering how people who are actually African ...

New Sneer Review: The Evolution of Atheism

I'm not sure I like where this is heading.

(can't seem to post images from some blogs directly. I get "can't determine size of image". How do I get around that?)

A comment leads to this (image too large to post on board properly)

dustbubble wrote:Being old white and garbage, I've discovered that most of my peers are profoundly leery about all forms of miso

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And talk about a loaded fucking statement: Don't change the topic to less severe problems: If a particular problem is being discussed, it is dismissive to generalise this into a conversation about less severe problems. Such problems may also be very important, but they should be discussed elsewhere...

Woops, somehow I deleted the opening few lines which might have helped understanding the Tom Johnson story. For those who don't know the details, Wally Smith was a Christian troll who targeted the gnu atheist community about three years ago. He set up several blogs and used an enormous number of soc...

Dick Strawkins did a short recap a few pages ago The biggest 'success' for Wally was in convincing Chris Mooney that Wally was a scientist named 'Tom Johnson' who was witness to shocking behavior of gnu atheist supporters who went around insulting every believer they met, including science friendly...

Awwww... http://atheiststoday.com/images/dw_adams/jennifurret_bye.jpg Seriously though, staying off the internet is a probably good thing to do for Jen. Earlier in this thread... Normal humans get out, get dirty, interact with different people throughout the day - in person. Living one step removed...

Atheism+â€@atheismplus Pat Condell thinks we should also worry about Islamic misogyny. We'll do that once our elevators are safe. #atheismplus Can't tell if poe. Jean was recommended to me originally by Justicar. Although he was picking holes in her even then - as were many other people. I think s...

In case this hasn't been posted yet, a little gem from Blag Hag McCreight... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12895612/1.JPG http://freethoughtblogs.com/blaghag/2012/08/atheism/ So... she doesn't want to splinter the movement, she just wants us to wear pieces of flair so she knows which "side" we are on. J...

Scented Nectar wrote: Woohoo! Look here! It's... The SlimePit Archive!!!

Awesome! Thank you Scented Nectar!

The Tachikoma are a series of spider-shaped battle tanks equipped with curiosity-driven A.I., from the anime TV series Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex and their derived sequels. Their later versions, Fuchikoma, was in the manga (which has one of the highest crotch-shot-per-page rates that I'v...

I still don't see why anybody would interview her now. then or anytime. Why on earth she was given a place on the SGU is beyond me. All she seems to do on the show is make desperately unfunny jokes, completely miss all the nerdy references that are supposedly aimed at the oh-my god I'm-such-a-nerd ...

One group which claims women are getting harassed sexually at Sceptic Conferences and are the victims of online hate mail. Another group claims that this isnâ€™t really an issue, are requesting evidence to back up the first groups claims, and that the first group are making unrealistic demands on p...

To be fair - not ALL of them actually *are*. There are a number of the bloggers there who have not mentioned any of these goings on at all, who have kept completely out of it. As I mentioned on Twitter the other night, there are a couple of the writers there that I do have respect for and it is a s...

Oh I got the Kryten reference alright, it's just I couldn't bring myself to watch it. The comments from Robert on his youtube channel about this video aren't very helpful either. Yes I got the impression in his comments that he didn't know anything about it beforehand and had just relied on the fir...

From the http://synapses.co.za/unstoppable-tide-trolls/ that was posted, is this comment. Iamcuriousblue August 12, 2012 at 6:10 am | Permalink | Reply The problem with FTB, or a significant portion of it, is that it basically took the culture of the â€œfeminist blogosphereâ€ (Jezebel, Pandagon, I...

...the FtB & Skepchicks crew are the bedrock of the movement, the conventions and conferences. If FtB and Skepchicks got dumped, the only person they really have is Abbe(sic).

lolwut

That linked to an even earlier blog article, Atheists with vaginas which is still up. 1-- God, this shit started a LONG time ago, didnt it? Even their shit-stirring with DJ Grothe. 2-- I stand by the stuff I previously wrote, and am glad to see current/former Pit Crew there also making sense. Not t...

http://synapses.co.za/unstoppable-tide-trolls/

Steersman, you're going to have to make more explicit how you made the logical leap between locust swarming and Amy Roth. *confused*

Anyways, what really seemed to set people off was my criticism of Dawkins/Hitchens "Religion poisons everything" position. Despite the fact that I'm a big fan of both and have read a good portion of their stuff. And I'm sorry I just don't see that as controversial in the least. A number of people a...

That's also from steersman but thinking that over, I may be being unfair to Amy... That chick was hyped up like motherfuck from all her Skepchick friends telling her to watch out for harrassment and basically ramped up into hysteria probably before she even got there. Maybe she just had a wee break...

I don't quite understand how they reconcile the idea that women are on the Slime-side... They dont. Youll get a citation for operating an unlicensed vagina. :naughty: Once upon a time... [quote=" ERV in "Bad Form, Rebecca Watson" on July 1, 2011"]One of these days, theyre going to come for my Vagin...

But I would argue that thereâ€™s probably just as large of percentage of men as of women who are â€œoverly emotionalâ€, largely on the basis that commitment to various dogmas, mostly religious but not exclusively, is, I think, mostly a question of egregiously â€œoverlyâ€ emotional responses ... T...

I don't quite understand how they reconcile the idea that women are on the Slime-side... Oh wait, I do. Because girls on the Slime side are "chill girls" who just want to act like they're one of the guys for some dick. My bad, just answered my own question. Which still doesn't make sense. The theor...

Another user pretending to be Everyman, or Everyman trying to get past sacha's block? Either way, not cool.

They're fine to publish people's private details. They're fine to try to exert pressure to get people fired. They're fine to hunt down people who disagree with them. How the fuck do the women who think they're feeling "safe" feel safe around people like this? How the fuck can NATALIE? If she posts ...

Oh, cut the knot now, will you?!? Oh, huh. Maybe that's why I read your name as Gordiana. No offence taken, and it was just my own opinion. Anybody is free to talk about whatever they want. I'm just a bystander. Oops, didn't mean to put the heat on you. I also prefer to separate poking at the FTBer...

I find Everyman to be overgeneralizing from his own experiences (and "people often think women have more emotional intelligence" doesn't prove that women actually do; it could be one of those "everybody knows" bits of common folk wisdom that actually turns out to be false). That said, he kinda has ...

John Greg: I'm not sure if you're talking to me specifically, but I bring up trolling only because of the following line from this post of Everyman's: Maybe the female brain lacks a receptor for detecting trolling behavior by immature males? I don't consider Everyman to be a troll*, though I do thin...

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