If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

John D,
I have never tried to be an activists, but I couldn't agree more.

It's all fucking depressing. Hate the Trump support i see here though...

But as I said, there's a lot more subtlety and variation in feelings than that binary, there's a whole landscape to the inner world; and a lot of literature revolves around evoking those nuances in a way that people recognize in their own experience, and writers can be good or bad at that. So while...

Some strange news from Norway. The Norwegian church (Lutheran bent; relatively benign) was a state church until 2012, and has a membership of approx. 75% of the population. It's still funded by the government - USD445m per year - or USD115 per member, BUT the funding applies regardless of changes in...

Carl Linnaeus. About himself. Anyone can use google to find the truth :snooty: Well anyone willing to look for it. I did initially suspect the involvement of Carrier, so I had to make sure the rancid little hobbit hadn't (yet) gone that far. I think we need to accept Carrier for the intellectual ca...

Spike13 wrote:
What if you're the guy that sells them strip club stuff?

Then you have a much better job than mine.

Actually to be fair (need edit button!) I get your point. The fact that they went out of their way to fuck her over is another matter. Did I read it incorrectly? Wasn't this during a work outing? Yes, it was during a work outing. My question is if she was with the people she was chaperoning or not....

Yes, the employer had a right to fire her, but I think they should not have exercised that right. Yes, the baying mob had a right to agitate for her firing, but I think they should not have exercised that right. The world would be a better place if more people learned to be more resilient and not a...

Rights are not at issue. What is at issue is the reasonableness of actions. The fact that an employer might be affected by public reaction is not an automatic justification for firings. The employer is still human and has the option to stand up for their employee. A common throw-away justification ...

You seem to have contributed jack shit to the Pit until this moment despite being a member for about a year. Obviously punishing someone who 'causes offence' means a great deal to you. I am a little curious. I consider you a "regular". There's that. I have been reading the pit from the start, but I...

Europeans are so gay http://fringefamily.typepad.com/.a/6a0105364a8fba970c017ee8be28d8970d-800wi I ams asking that you stop using the term "Europeans". I feel very offended on the basis I have nothing in common with the fucking Swedes, Finns, Samiis, Danes, Icelanders, Greenlanders, Germans, Poles,...

You seem to have contributed jack shit to the Pit until this moment despite being a member for about a year. Obviously punishing someone who 'causes offence' means a great deal to you. I am a little curious. I consider you a "regular". There's that. I have been reading the pit from the start, but I...

You guys arguing about the firing and whether it is acceptable or not are missing several big points. Companies have every right to protect their brand. If something an employee does is seen as compromising that brand, the company is free to fire them because: 1. That person's action affects more t...

I don't think anybody questions a company's right to get rid of an employee in order to protect its reputation I've seen written here that she was "hurting no one" and was told to go fuck myself because I didn't think getting killed and getting fired should be grouped together as comparable tangibl...

You guys arguing about the firing and whether it is acceptable or not are missing several big points. Companies have every right to protect their brand. If something an employee does is seen as compromising that brand, the company is free to fire them because: 1. That person's action affects more t...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Question: Why is this three-year old story being discussed now?

Isn't it because comhcinc thought it was OK to fire her? I haven't seen anyone else defending it.

Shatterface:
It's always useful to know which Pitters are against harming people for being stupid on principle and those who merely want to pick and choose who gets hurt.

Come to think of it, that is one of the better passive-agressive statements I have seen in a while. Well done.

Parody Accountant wrote:I miss barael.

I would he happy to substitute as the person with a job and an apartment, which neverthetheless is miserable and butthurt. Just say the word.

[quote="Darth Cynic Lastly, I was just a bit surprised by the emphatic 'Good. Fuck her.' reaction you expressed which honestly struck me as a bit myopic, and hence my posting over it. But if offence, whether over the image or your personal standards regards acceptable adult behaviour, is enough in y...

piginthecity wrote:Now that Michael Nugent is officially our ally (according to the World Authority on Allies and Alliances) I hope he knows that this means he's got to shut up and listen every time a slymepitter speaks.

That would be a nightmare considering all the relatives of Mr. Fucking Cunt residing here.

I thought the French liked the Poles. Marie Curie was Polish. I think Poles like French people, we share some history and France where always a pretty important destination for artists, scientists and politicians whenever we where fucked by our geography (sitting between Russia and Germany was a ba...

Really? That overtly? Polish employer. Doesn't want any Pole in his house. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Kinda busy right now, but I will try to plug in a bit of my sister's perspective on employing Polish people in Poland later. For now, I think that this article mostly spells it out what is mos...

Oh well. I will work on the trolling. Thanks for the encouragement.

I agree there is not positive evidence he did not exist. I also have no problems buying that the earliest christians after a while thought he existed. But knowing how quickly reliogions can evolve, I dont quite understand on what basis you can conclude the most parsimonious explanation is that he d...

I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone please reiterate the GamerGate thingy for me? Who is fighting who and why? Preferably in one single paragraph. Please feel free to ask me to fuck off. It started a long time before the current go-around. We had Gerstman fired from GameSpot over a bad rev...

I beg to differ. I think there is plenty evidence that he did not exist - mainly based on on similar stories about god-like figures at the time. You seem to be saying that there is no evidence he did not exist. Shouldnt we be be looking for evidence that the did exist? As far as I understand we hav...

Sorry, but that is bollocks. You are using standard quibble amongst historians to back up a claim that the main conclusion is wrong. Note they are debating about texts written several hundred years after the the alleged event. I think you missed my point. Which is that Carrier is clearly dishonest ...

Not so long ago, Paddybrown already linked to this post by Tim O'Neill (a self-described Irish-Australian atheist bastard), but it is perhaps worth quoting his takedown of Dr. Carrier PhD. Carrier is actually the epitome of what is wrong with the way New Atheism tends to approach history - starting...

Jan Steen wrote: Bravo. And your diction, Tony, is hilarious, with that weird accent. I don't want to know how long you had to practice to get that right..

Having English as a second language I am raging right now. I cant even....

Did I do that right?

Seriously? He comes off as worlds more trustworthy there than Carrier does. May I ask why? The only valid argument I have seen for historicity of Jebus is that "most historians agree". The evidence for the historical existence of Jesus, in some form or another, is as good as the evidence for an awf...

I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone please reiterate the GamerGate thingy for me? Who is fighting who and why? Preferably in one single paragraph. Please feel free to ask me to fuck off. Historical version or "what about now?" version? (Both are very summarized, and leave out all the inter...

I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone please reiterate the GamerGate thingy for me? Who is fighting who and why? Preferably in one single paragraph. Please feel free to ask me to fuck off. Gamers=wants wide spread corruption and nepotism removed from the gaming press, awards, games promotion...

murtzuphlus wrote: I do too, but that doesn't mean the Dick is wrong on this particular point. And I dont give a fuck about Bayesian approach. My point is that other scholars, like Ehrman, has not provided any credible evidence. Why is the John Frum approach ubelievable? Since when I first read Wel...

I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone please reiterate the GamerGate thingy for me? Who is fighting who and why? Preferably in one single paragraph. Please feel free to ask me to fuck off. Conflict brewing for years. Anita Sarkeesian hate games, say games are sexist. Gamers, people who have ...

I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone please reiterate the GamerGate thingy for me? Who is fighting who and why? Preferably in one single paragraph. Please feel free to ask me to fuck off.

I'm sure some of it is, but his latest book was peer-reviewed, published by a prestigious University Press and he does have a PhD in the relevant field. A specialized intra-departmental press, even one at a prestigious university, is not the same thing as a prestigious University Press. And not all...

Guestus Aurelius wrote:Seriously? He comes off as worlds more trustworthy there than Carrier does.

May I ask why? The only valid argument I have seen for historicity of Jebus is that "most historians agree".

I have. Ehrman is not to be trusted in that affair.

And besides fucking up the quotes, I am in full agreement that Dick is a dick.

[quote="Kirbmarc But it's one thing to say that there were many different, contradictory and ultimately historically pretty much useless accounts of the life of a Jewish preacher named Jesus (a mainstream position among many historians), and another thing to say he was completely made just like Joh...

It's worth remembering that a good deal of the kind of history Carrier does involves interpreting the words of other people. Apparently, we're not the only ones who've noticed Carrier's intellectual dishonesty when interpreting the words of other people: http://ehrmanblog.org/fuller-reply-to-richar...

[quote="Kirbmarc But it's one thing to say that there were many different, contradictory and ultimately historically pretty much useless accounts of the life of a Jewish preacher named Jesus (a mainstream position among many historians), and another thing to say he was completely made just like John...

Sorry. I was never able to keep up. Otherwise, fuck off

Suspicious much? OK all agreed.

I have no part in this, but it still feels like winning. Thanks to all the Slymepit wankers.

Oh and my $.02 on the debate about famous assholes actually being assholes is this: in my experience, most successful scientists are selfish. They use their grads and often their colleagues as well. People put up with it for a variety of reasons, ranging from "they are helping us all by raising the...

Lsuoma wrote:
Aneris wrote:http://i.imgur.com/lzngRKm.jpg

/checkmate atheists
Not even a chance of reacharound there :cry:

Boss man, since you're around: how many socks are acceptable here?

Good to know. Thanks.

I know some folks here are against talking about people's looks, and I agree that it does not stand as an argument against someone's position; it is kind of fun, however. Having said that, you know how people who are really fat only show a headshot sometimes in a profile picture. I am just wonderin...

*With one exception: I finally got around to removing the â€œOMâ€ from my nickname (which was far easier than I thought), as I fear it suggests my association with whatâ€™s sadly become a hypocritical and cowardly culture. I shouldn't really give a shit but what does 'OM' mean snd how does it rela...

Living where I do, the inevitable has happened and I have a had a fairly nasty conversation with someone (with whom I usually maintain good relations) relating to events in France. Reminding him that, in the aftermath of September 11th 2001, headlines in France read (translated); "Today, We Are All...

For anyone interested in intellectual artillery, poor, poor Richard Carrier, renowned author, the smartest man on the Internet; the Intellectual Artillery of FTB ... three full months and his avid fans have almost completely failed to comment; only one post since October 8 has any comments at all. ...

The commentariat's educational efforts in the recent days over at Friendly Atheist and Nugent's about the reasons for the Rift (TM) have made me think of when the shit really hit the fan. I remember being online when Dawkins posted his Dear Muslima at Pharyngula. It was like the blinds went down. To...

[I made this comment back in October of 2013: http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=351&p=139071#p139071 Either I'm very dedicated to my pathology or--horror of horrors--I'm for real. Very well. So why bring it up again? Do you want to have a discussion about these things? Not with me obvi...

Since this Guest was too lazy to read my past statements, let me outline a few of them here: -I'm consent-skeptic. I do not believe in consent being the ultimate gatekeeper to sex. -I'm age-skeptic. I do not believe in magical properties inherent in 16, 18, 21, or any year of age. Age barriers, if ...

No surprise to me. I've known for close to twenty-five years that the first North Ameican settlers were not of Asian descent. The reason being that there were multiple migrations, including the first wave who were (basically) central Europeans. So, really, the Indians stole America from White Peopl...

I wish I was (on acid) . My hand is whoooooaaa!

I'll retire now. Sorry for annoying you. Cheers.

Sinister: what can I do? I had no intentiion of being rude...

My confirmation looks a little bit stranger now. Oh well.

That makes perfect sense. Wanking is OK then. Thanks.

OK, sorry for being dense, but what makes MGTOW particularly EVIL?

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