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Another user pretending to be Everyman, or Everyman trying to get past sacha's block? Either way, not cool. That was me having the last word in a funny way. Lighten up, Francis. I bet franc thought it was funny. What makes you presume stuff about me? You have to earn the privilege to make fun of Sa...

But if you have a link to that thread you are referring to or other related evidence justifying your contention then I would appreciate the information and would certainly take a look at it. I managed to find it. http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=73&p=1667&hilit=monopod#p1667 And congr...

You would probably be amazed at the tenacity, if not rudeness, of some of the Pharyngulites â€“ some of whom have flounced out of there due to the â€œnew rulesâ€ â€“ over at Camels with Hammers over their desire to be able to use various epithets while anathematizing others. Not happy with wallowi...

In case anyone is interested in VR gaming, I'll suggest checking out this kickstarter and contributing. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game I've been waiting for something like this for literally twenty years. Could be a real disruptive technology if it take...

I suspect some of it has to do with guilt too. See how badly she treated Sharon Hill before TAM? So then when someone at TAM shows up with parody ceramics parroting the line she threw at Sharon: "you should be embarassed" ...she has to deflect her feelings of guilt by accusing everyone else of hara...

rayshul wrote: Also, are we using baboon as an in-insult now? LOL

It's been franc's go-to insult for awhile now. Which I personally find pretty baboon-like myself. :mrgreen:

Found this while looking for something else. Brilliant how topical it is.

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That's also from steersman but thinking that over, I may be being unfair to Amy... That chick was hyped up like motherfuck from all her Skepchick friends telling her to watch out for harrassment and basically ramped up into hysteria probably before she even got there. Maybe she just had a wee break...

But I would argue that thereâ€™s probably just as large of percentage of men as of women who are â€œoverly emotionalâ€, largely on the basis that commitment to various dogmas, mostly religious but not exclusively, is, I think, mostly a question of egregiously â€œoverlyâ€ emotional responses ... T...

I mentioned roadrage on the Everyman thread as a good way of judging someone's control over their emotions as it's something men and women seem to experience at similar levels but men are more likely to lose their everloving shit, which'd support the "women have more emotional intelligence" thing. ...

Ohhh my last post reading over was somewhat harsher than i intended it to be.... hope the drift was clear anyway... but these are issues where it's actulaly like important if you want to make your point to explain what you're talking about in the first place Well, here's the thing. I can't read min...

1. Managers and MBAs may believe things that are not true. For example, AIUI the Myers Brigg personality test is still popular among business managers despite being debunked by actual psychologists. I'm well aware of this. I was just asking for evidence in this specific case. I also haven't studied...

To avoid any more starwmen I'll try and enunciate my positions more clearly here. I've noticed lots of people seem to think because I criticize atheism I must be a theist or if I mock BigPharma I'm an alt-med guy. It's perfectly reasonable to criticize both sides of a position (which is what I usual...

Another user pretending to be Everyman, or Everyman trying to get past sacha's block? Either way, not cool. That was me having the last word in a funny way. Lighten up, Francis. I bet franc thought it was funny. Or I guess you could go baboonaballistic and label me an Evil Computer Hacker and ban m...

While I agree that Everyman can be a major ain in the behind, I do not think we should call him a troll. After all, thanks to the fanatical fundamentalists of FfTB, Skepchick, and other places, troll has become synonymous with "somoe who disagrees with me". And we do not want to fall into that hyst...

tachikoma wrote: Is Everyman a doodoohead?

+1

Since Phil Gordiana beseeched us to take our offtopic posts elsewhere in the forum, I went ahead and made the following thread The Everyman argument thread I respectfully suggest people who want to argue with Everyman or discuss the (offtopic) things he brought up should all go post there instead. ...

I find Everyman to be overgeneralizing from his own experiences (and "people often think women have more emotional intelligence" doesn't prove that women actually do; it could be one of those "everybody knows" bits of common folk wisdom that actually turns out to be false). That said, he kinda has ...

I had a female boss once who prided herself on her "good 'emotional intelligence'". I got the blarney about this from her in my first week in the job. at the time I just filed it under "euphemism for lack of 'ordinary intelligence'". Which quickly proved to be true. She'd picked up the term during ...

Translation: don't get angry or it will magically disprove what you say blah blah emotional intelligence blah blah blah blah privilege blah blah patriarchy blah blah flatter CEO exec yum! how can you resist women managers? blah blah If the point of the discussion is that some women tend to lapse in...

??? It was but a lighthearted response to your concerns about doxxing. Not everyone here is out to challenge you, Everyman. Some of us honestly couldn't give a monkeys about women in management roles and emotional intelligence and all that. I guess I'm somewhat concerned at the level of hostility d...

I stopped reading his posts some time ago, and I can't be arsed to go back and look now, but I have a distinct impression of him claiming to be expert in pretty much every subject anyone mentioned. I think you have me confused with this guy: http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/search.php?author_id=169&sr...

Why am I getting the feeling that you don't realize LC is in Canada? Or, are you saying that you are well versed in Cdn law? It's pretty much the same in Canada, they are following our lead vs. the EU. Companies like Google & Facebook are having a much more difficult time operating in the EU as the...

I've been trying to work through this myself. The only thing I can come up with is "Natelie Reed" has been portraying "herself" as a woman in some areas of "her" life, and it might screw up social or professional contacts "she" has established. More of a lie exposed kind of thing. I don't see physi...

My observation was that poorly-educated women might have a hard time differentiating their feelings from reality; hence the behavior of the skepchicks. Do you also believe that poorly educated men have that same hard time? Absolutely and unequivocally. But given the rampant sexism in the form of af...

Though it's not really apt here to speak of the Slymepit in groupthink terms, I think it's fair to say that most of us might adhere to the principle of 'if it seems like something that Greg Laden would happily do, then it's very probably a shitty thing to do.' Just as Aquinas held god to be the abs...

HAHA, and if one reads the article, it doesn't even back his "women are more emotionally intelligent" claim! OK before this gets out of hand, everyone knows Simon Baron-Cohen right? I do, as an aside he is Sascha Baron-Cohen's (Ali-G/Borat) cousin. His work, while interesting, is still completely t...

Well, Lousy Canuck has just broken all internet ethics on doxxing. He's published the private emails and IPs of many people here, as well as a certain unnamed weirdo (DB) who used to post here. I believe that may be illegal. Well, you would believe wrong. At least here in America, as we have very l...

Reminds me for some reason of the old Internet joke pulled years ago when someone had the domain name warez.org. They then set the A record of ftp.warez.org to 127.0.0.1 . There was one idiot who went so far as to threaten legal action, called the FBI (who laughed at him) because obviously ftp.ware...

Note too that supplements are not the kinds of things people who oppose alternative medicine generally care too much about, unless they're toxic and complicate normal treatment. The more troubling practices include things like homeopathy and vitamin megadoses, as well as anything that is supposed t...

*smart* move listening in. *bad* move to ever act openly on your secret. Never reveal your sources, especially if its you, for fucks sake. Bzzt. Tf00t never liked Meyers; that much is obvious from watching their interaction on YouTube. His plan from the beginning was to blow up FfTb. He just didn't...

it's all about the money. Harvard is beginning to embrace CAM too. This irritated me so much that I made it a point to go out and get EXTRA liquored up and pissed off tonight. ERMAH FERGIN GERD It's all about the money? Really? Let me call up the CEO of Goldman-Sachs; given that I'm sure he hasn't ...

HAHA, and if one reads the article, it doesn't even back his "women are more emotionally intelligent" claim! I personally consider "empathy" and "emotional intelligence" as synonymous. Actually, that depends on what you mean by "emotional intelligence." If you equate the term with empathy alone, th...

I guess if you're linking to huffpo we know why you like alt med. Was that you earlier who also linked to the daily fail ? You may need to improve your reading list. I don't like "alt med". I link to pop-science summaries of scientific research as you probably don't have access to the same online j...

Morally, Thunderf00t is in the wrong for accessing email that he knew the senders and recipients did not want him to read. Regardless of actual harm, this is a question of character. Politically, he had the high ground in this soap opera. With this action he has hopped down in the mud with the FC5(...

John, he thinks integrated "medicine" is legitimate, don't waste your breath. So does UCSF, which is one of the top-ranked medical research institutions in the world. See: http://www.osher.ucsf.edu/ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k0rNSX7uhUQ/Tyg6_Dqgw6I/AAAAAAAAEpc/ACWUkZXRiaY/s1600/blonde_jokes_3.jpeg

Holy fuck, you have Nectar and I DEFENDING women with your idiocy! "A lifetime of dealing with women"?? Clearly not women with a brain. "Men like taking things apart" "Women like experiencing/knowing" FUCK! If you had just clearly stated MANY men like to do that, MANY women like that. YOU ARE A BLO...

Um...wonder what Tf00t is referring to here? https://twitter.com/thunderf00t/status/234005927194419200 'Conspiracy to defraud'?? That sounds...serious. Pretty, pretty serious. Oh dear. I was about to comment that if Tf00t was really clever he would have waited until he evidence of some serious malf...

Their bad behavior doesn't justify his. Yeah but how bad was it, really? Nobody got hurt. The FftBullies just got more (gr)egg on their fat faces. I'm beginning to suspect that tf00t is doing some hoggle-style trolling by baiting them in into increasingly bizarre displays of histrionics. I also fin...

Have you only had uneducated women around you all your life, so that's why you think it's all women are this and all men are that? And, if it's education we're talking about, why do you say it's women? The hormone thing makes barely a difference, unless you have heard of something new, proving (not...

Assuming the cops get involved they will probably yell at both parties for being douches and wasting their time. It's what I would do. Couldn't we get Justicop to weigh in on this? What Tf00t did is classified under "electronic trespass". That's exactly as serious as this is, no more/less. I wouldn...

@Real Horrorshow - yeah, this is what's buging me a little about the whole thing. Again, I'm not expert on law blah blah, but it strikes me as very odd that the lawyers FTB apparently consulted didn't tell them to keep quiet about this whole thing, for fear of what we're seeing now: Tf00t unequivoc...

Everyman said: He did gain unauthorized access to a computer system. Did he now? I thought that was still unknown -- as to whether it was in fact unauthrorized access as opposed to access to an email list that some people did not want him to have access to but gave it to him anyway and was therefor...

Everyman, your link proves shit. F00t did not break any security. Whether or not he was "supposed" to have access to the email list is moot. If he was not supposed to have access, but Brayton and PeeZus in their general incompetence did not bar him from access, and if he then, hypothetically, reapp...

Hmmm. Legally, it looks as if Tf00t could be in the clear, as regards 'hacking': Nope. This is a very common misconception about cyber-law. "Unauthorized access" is all that needs to be proven. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28computer_security%29#Classifications So, even if someone/thing fuc...

And so we see that in the feeble minds of the Baboon Brigade, "hacking" is defined as "Ed Brayton doesn't know how to use Mailman." We are actually prosecuting a case at the moment involving a terminated employee that got back into a critical system via a shared account and did some real damage. Ty...

I don't know why you assume that. I would have put it like this: Non-ideologues (actual skeptics) tend to think first and emote later (if at all). Ideologues, such as the Fftb/skepchicks, tend to emote first and think later (if at all) Uh, a lifetime of dealing with women? It's also know that sex h...

So, what are you saying then? That because their methodology is flawed therefore their premises and objectives are likewise? An interesting, if somewhat problematic, argument. Tends to lump them all together without making any effort to decide which parts of each are credible and which parts are no...

The point is, that no-one (at least no-one I've read and no-one here in the Pit) is saying that sexual harassment doesn't exist. No-one is saying that women don't experience sexual harassment in a different way to men. However when that shades over into: "Because you are male you cannot understand ...

Not quite sure what youâ€™re getting at there. Surely youâ€™re not saying that whatever signal a â€œbelieverâ€™s brainâ€ gets is an indication or proof of the existence of some god? That youâ€™re only saying that the â€œsignalâ€ they are getting, the ghosts and the artefacts in their minds, is li...

The legal definition of harassment in Nevada: NRS 200.571 Harassment: Definition; penalties. 1. A person is guilty of harassment if: (a) Without lawful authority, the person knowingly threatens: (1) To cause bodily injury in the future to the person threatened or to any other person; (2) To cause p...

KiwiInOz wrote:
EveryMan wrote: Men tend to think first and emote later (if at all).
Unless they are in a mob.

Not really. There is always some common idea that got the mob to organize in the first place. The mayhem comes later.

Perhaps you and Steerman should read the entire thread and catch up. It would be helpful. Steerman, there was a long discussion in regards to Laden and the "men are just testosterone damaged women" video. And to both of you, get over your issues with swearing and alcoholic beverages, or keep it to ...

It is pretty scary. But then again, I do wonder if we aren't all susceptible to these 'mass panics' in some way? I can imagine that the present concerns within the Skepchick brigades might come down to only one or two anecdotes, with the rest 'erring on the side of caution', and presuming that beca...

While it certainly seems to me that more than a few MRAs are decidedly off-the-wall, I would say that your rather categorical â€œMRAs are just inverted RadFemsâ€ is a little wide of the mark: in spite of the extremists I think that some of them do have some very good points worth considering. So d...

Whoever pushed for their attempt to force a public real life name connection on internet users, must be an idiot. I expect there were target audience pseudo-analyses write-ups/presentations involved, filled with bullshitese rather than anything even closely related to what the target user/customer ...

Hmmm. Someone called Will has written a piece over at Skepchicks praising the value of qualitative data as opposed to quantative data: in other words - yes, your anecdotal claims to there being a sexual harassment problem in the skeptic/atheist community can indeed be classed as decent evidence for...

Tigzy wrote:
Nor even The London Monster - though to be fair, that was a while ago.

Well, to be fair a guy was just caught doing this.

http://gawker.com/5876170/serial-butt-s ... re-rejoice

Makes a lot of sense to me, although many seem to think otherwise. For instance, there was a video posted here recently by Scented Nectar during which [at about 1:18 into it] the author pointed to some â€œblatant anti-male commentsâ€ and illustrated that with some â€œacademicâ€ saying something t...

Have to say, I feel bad for Natalie Reed here - http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/08/09/disgusting/ - the guy who did that to her is a pig. Vile, nasty pig. Right. I live in a LGBT neighborhood. Rainbows everywhere. One of my best friends was murdered by a transexual that had fetish abou...

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