If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

commie wrote: Pneumonia can be a big deal or a not much of a deal. And yeah being honest and saying before hand that she is dealing with pneumonia and will be taking a small break to get better. That would have done a lot for those people like me who don't trust her. This feel like yet another atte...

In any case, just a minor quibble than shouldn't amount to a hill of beans among fellow Pitters [ ;-) ], and you did say "we must respond". Although one might reasonably ask whether you think that your "Bayesian probability" is applicable to the question of whether "eliminationist rhetoric" is tota...

Steersman wrote: But insisting that that applies in all cases, and that it justifies never taking a stand, never calling a spade a fucking shovel is simply suicidal.

It's fortunate, then, that that's not what I'm doing ;)

Interesting snippet of Saudi TV with a vigorous discussion showing that there are voices pushing for reform, and they are listened to:-

Kind of amusing, if you're kind of into gallows or gothic humour, that even nominally credible critics here in the Pit of at least some sects of Islam - such as Kirbmarc, much less Pitters who are either dyed-in-the-wool Muslims such as Korban or jimhabegger or who are fellow-travelers or "cafeteri...

It's not wrong to say emotions are just brain states aided by hormones, but you'll see such things do have an internal, inter-subjective side. Hence, I disagree, words are the closest thing to magic that actually exist. They are ordinary and as such its not seen as wondrous that you can open a book...

Com, I'm curious. Now that you have ruled out a virtue signal that you have a firewall erected against the norms of a patriarchal society ...... Did you miscalculate but then become entranced in appalled wonderment? Or was it a charmingly simple "I like that colour and feel the need to reflect it i...

Of course this is an evolutionary argument as well as a cultural argument/societal. You can see that within a society which is effectively stagnant in terms of innovations/technology/creativity, and yet works despite being static, environmental pressures will play second fiddle to sexual selection....

Again, your comments about Islam vs Buddhists/etc strongly suggests it will be unwise - to say the least - to simply "leave Islam be"; needs to be extirpated, root and fucking branch. If you mean the set of ideas has to be "extirpated" in a metaphorical sense - analyzed, mocked, ameliorated, legall...

Muslim refugee, 20, who raped a boy, 10, in his Sydney home says what he did 'is not a crime because it is acceptable in his homeland' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.htm...

You seem to think that people should be punished for what they think (not what they do or plan) if what they think is bad enough. I disagree. I think that islam is a horrible idea, but people are free to have horrible ideas. It's when they put those ideas into practice that they must be stopped. Ye...

Yea, well, it might have been a bit extreme, although it's not clear whether there were any words exchanged just before the punch or even prior to that. But you might note that the incident apparently happened recently in France, just a few short weeks since wacko Muslims (aren't they all?) ran ove...

When I were a lad in the early 1970s, I had a brief flirtation with celtic romanticism in books, art and music, especially in the folk-rock music of Alan Stivell. This one still gets my knees up:-

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Aneris wrote:There are no supernatural entities, period.
You've done the Bayesian analysis and it came out as zero? Cool. Mine came out as very small but not zero. Maybe it's just rounding.

LOL, nerds.

Hehe, you wait half an hour for an Aneris post then 3 come along at once (ref. UK joke re. waiting for buses). All good stuff and linkage for thought. But much as I respect the rump of the reality-oriented, Enlightenment-values-respecting Left, I don't see how they can get away from Postmodernism be...

It can get quite depressing thinking about the situation with Islam, so I thought I'd just drop a positive, inspiring vid to compensate, so here's Majid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali having a nice chat.

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<snip> Third , if Intersectionality was applied in an analogical fashion to atheism, it would be in spirit of Dawkins' “Dear Muslima” response to Myers and Watson, because Dawkins makes women of colour visible that — out of well-intentioned antibigot urges — otherwise fall between the cracks. Watso...

Just as an interesting aside, I've been reading some fascinating revisionist essays on an alternative origin for Islam by a historian, Emmet Scott. http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/160197/sec_id/160197 The rough idea would be that there was no conquest of the Middle East and Persia b...

Ideology comes a close second just because it promises an eventual reward in the reality we live in, while religion post-pones the reward into a new reality after death. Ideologues can eventually become frustrated by the fact that the promise revolution and perfect society never come, religious peo...

In past the use of force, intimidation and the creditable threat of force against them - was one of the drivers for minority communities to assimilate into larger mainstream culture. Or if not assimilate then keep their heads down and not draw attention to themselves. (Though, I suppose it could al...

If Islam caused terrorism, we would have seen Islamic terror since Islam's inception. But we did. Right from the get-go, when Muhammad started terrorising Meccan caravans once he'd established a foothold in Medina. The Meccans' reaction, which was to protect their caravans militarily, was then spun...

If Islam caused terrorism, we would have seen Islamic terror since Islam's inception. But we did. Right from the get-go, when Muhammad started terrorising Meccan caravans once he'd established a foothold in Medina. The Meccans' reaction, which was to protect their caravans militarily, was then spun...

I think that the authorities and staff are mostly afraid of the lawsuits of their moms and dads. I wonder what will happen when those maladjusted childish pretend-victim bullies will be forced to enter the world after university. It's an interesting proposition - what would you recommend if you wer...

My favorite bit was where PZ insisted that Ellen DeGeneres must confess and repent the sin of racism. The DeGeneres kerfluffle is perhaps the greatest nutshell example of SJW idiocy and wrongness I've seen yet. The "intent isn't magic" doctrine is probably the most pernicious part of SJW dogma. I h...

Meh, the French and the Germans never quite got liberalism, even back in the 17th and 18th centuries - they've always been too hung up on the idea of centralized, "rational" ordering of society. It's like, they have the right idea that reason is the way forward, but they misapply it in politics; the...

But it'll probably take another hundred years for the effects of that to filter through to hoi polloi , and meanwhile we're still having to deal with the aftershocks from the philosophical cul-de-sac of the 17th/18th centuries - which is, the whole axis of Postmodernism, which in combination with L...

Although as a bit of a quibble, I think that "saying that an objective reality exists" is somewhat of a premise rather than an iron-clad fact. Seems to make much more sense than any alternatives on tap, and there seems to be many facts to support the contention, but I don't know that it's actually ...

In my humble opinion this might be all true in the humanities, but society at large is drifting more and more towards the Right as a reaction to SJW extremism. Oh yeah, that's definitely a thing, but I doubt it will get to the stage of full-blown Fascism. Whoever listens to the reasonable concerns ...

If the Regessives and their Allies could be shown to a small enough minority, That's the worry though, "regressivism" is really the confluence of ideologies that grew out of the Left from Gramsci and the Frankfurt school, through the New Left and parallel developments in "continental" philosophy (P...

The nature of the safety net and of the incentives is open to debate. Is it better to have "negative income taxes" and school vouchers like Milton Friedman said, or do more Keynesian solutions work better? Is it better to have single-payer mandatory healthcare, or are other solutions a better fix? ...

I think a lot of the Left's actions stem from the rise of the conservative right. The right vilified and asserted that the left was unpatriotic, irreligious and a threat to "our way of life" as the Soviet threat emerged. It seems to me that the left entrenched and dogmatized in reaction to threats ...

I only know of two kinds of racism: a dislike or fear of those who look different (based on nothing more than appearance) and the application of stereotypes or general beliefs about the correlates of race to specific individuals (simply because they are members of that race). Is one of these so-cal...

The rise in modern racism is an expected reaction to an elitist, out of touch, arrogant culture that tells them that racism is wrong. I think it's more to do with the fact that the (Post)modern Left has been incessantly calling things racist that aren't actually racist for so long, that the term is...

"The Red Pill" opens in October, in NYC then LA. Tickets for the NYC showings go on sale August 26th. http://www.theredpillmovie.com/see.html I for one await the stink that this will kick up if the tone is even slightly sympathetic. Don't worry, it won't be. I have "a feeling" that this movie will ...

As for the Nye segment, it's telling that Nye was funnier than the "comedians." You can tell he has a funnier, nimbler mind for comedy than those two affirmative action cases. It's not even the jokes that are bad. Go ahead and joke about making a celebrity sex tape on Mars. That can be hilarious. B...

Blimey, Nottinghamshire Police have just lost the plot re. "hate crime":-

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Sargon featured a feminist article complaining about the the insular and toxic behavior of a feminist student group called Cuntry Living. The entire thing is hilariously lacking in self-awareness. Well-meaning feminists just do not seem to get that their institutions are designed to end up that way...

Anyway Gabs takes many hundreds of words to explain how he hand fashioned this beauty. http://cdn1.the-orbit.net/godlessness/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2016/07/TotFalternate.jpg What the fuck is inside that hexagon? A sea otter under a sun lamp? A fetus and a placenta? Now that's you said "sea otte...

DrokkIt wrote:
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I award them
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Yes, they're very trying. :rimshot:

There may be a significant contingent who will vote Trump on election day, but remain silent when questioned. I think it's pretty much going to be like Brexit. There does seem to be a significant number of people who don't tell the polls the truth these days, when the truth is socially unpalatable.

Clarence wrote: Here's her base:
A. Radical feminists
B. Democratic party partisans and SOME of the #NeverTrumpers
C. Biggest block: Aged Boomer Women.
D. Black people. Who aren't enthused about her but always vote at least 90 percent Democratic no matter what.

Don't forget the dead people.

Hang on a cotton pickin' minute, "prejudice + power" - is that any old prejudice? Must be racial prejudice then. But racial prejudice is racism , which is a specific form of prejudice related to race. "Power" is tacked on, but what does it mean? Apparently, something you have whether you're aware of...

So this is what's been doing the rounds and I've been not commenting on today: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co9MrpDWcAA149J.jpg Goes without saying I'm against abuse and naturally would avoid abusive arseholes, but unless I'm very much mistaken these guidelines advocate giving up on truth and innoce...

I have to admit, I've become intrigued by what seems to be most atheists on Youtube turning their guns on Steve Shives, and I've looked into him a bit more to try and find out why. And my god, but he's a cock... Yes, he is a cock, but I must say that I find him to be an absolutely fascinating chara...

CommanderTuvok wrote:Yeah, I have noticed Hillary doing the expressions.

Neurological damage?

Nah, probably just too much coffee.

On the other hand, no normal person reacts with faux surprise like that to some fucking balloons unless they're indulging children. She must think she's indulging children.

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comhcinc wrote:They all tell me I have amazing eyes. Every last one of them.

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A while ago I was musing about this a lot, and I came up with the notion that we should all pick a religion and LARP it. i.e. take religion as roleplaying, much as you would in a CRPG. Robert Anson Wilson suggested a similar thing with respect to belief at one point. I just remembered another write...

It is very disheartening to see feminists in our movement act exactly as MRA’s and other anti-feminists claim they would: by believing any claim told them without investigating it, and exaggerating ordinary and relatively harmless behavior into dangerous sexual harassment. This is a fundamentally b...

In all seriousness, she's not qualified to self-diagnose as psychopath. Maybe yes, maybe no. She reminds me of other early teens who do horrific killings (or attempts), like the kid who imitated Leonardo Depaprio (intentional misspelling) in one movie or another and killed his mother and father. Li...

In all seriousness, she's not qualified to self-diagnose as psychopath. Maybe yes, maybe no. She reminds me of other early teens who do horrific killings (or attempts), like the kid who imitated Leonardo Depaprio (intentional misspelling) in one movie or another and killed his mother and father. Li...

jimhabegger wrote:We've watched all the Cheyenne episodes we could find on Youtube, and now we've started watching 77 Sunset Strip. For once we were able to find the first episode of the first season.

I've been watching Columbo a lot recently, it's like an oasis of sanity in a mad world.

Most of my ancestors seem to be tenant farmers, in either eastern Scotland or north-eastern Ireland. Just a year or two ago, for the first time, it occurred to me that there might be a lot of Scottish ancestry in the Southern states, so I did some research and found out that a lot of it is Scotch-I...

Woops that was the wrong response, I was joining in with the joke thing.

paddybrown wrote:Islam wants "peace" in the sense of "unconditional surrender".

Islam is the religion of rest in pieces.

So Peezus has discovered that the new Tarzan movie is about... Tarzan? And he didn't know what the story is about? Whi didn't he just go see Ghostbusters again? It's all Hollywood bullshit anyway. Hollywood doesn't actually care about anything; it's just what happens to be popular at the time. I ju...

Shatterface wrote:Oh, just FUCK OFF!!!

Fireman Sam in Islamophobia row after character ‘stands on Koran’

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"The page was intended to show illegible text" - ROFLMFAO

Suet Cardigan wrote:Sexy Justice Warriors and the Truck of Peace

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Aids Skrillex is just perfect :)

I agree, it just doesn't seem to me that having the hots for pussy would be enough to turn anyone from a confident (even arrogant) critic of religion (including Islam) into a self-flagellating wimp who is only really confident about slagging off white men and is afraid to even use the word "stupid"...

Anyway, I'm currently doing a bit of research on The Terror, during the French Revolution. It strikes how like social justice warriors the Jacobins and Girondists were, with the former the FTB/Orbit types. Poor old Ophelia is like one of the early causalities, like Danton, getting caught up in thei...

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