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jimhabegger wrote:Most or all what I've seen people calling "criticism of Islam," in media stories and Internet discussions, looks to me like camouflage for prejudices, and defamation campaigns, against Muslims.

Any specific examples of media stories exemplifying this phenomenon?

Good stuff! Wish you had a blog. ;)

Really? wrote:In her new book, Hillary really lets loose on Vladimir Putin. Not only did he steal the election from her, but...and get this...he is a manspreader.

Good to see HRC helping to unite the left around the issues that really matter today.

Fixed WaPo link

Looks like the dream of Trump Tower Moscow didn't die back in 2013. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/399939505924628480 From International Skeptics: [QUOTE=Bob001]Trump was trying to make a giant Moscow hotel deal while he was running for President, and was told it would help him if he pra...

Shit they misspelled covfefe

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Bannon has been "you're fired".

Over at International Skeptics we are place no-stakes bets on who gets sacked or quits next. Any guesses?

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/893209681774202882

I rather like the idea of a country being governed by laws written in the form of poetry. This must be the case for America - or they would not be making reference to the Statue of Liberty and the poem engraved on the tablet it holds. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent ...

Clinton isn't more clean than Trump, but she is smart enough to avoid getting in legal trouble. Anyway the "but Clinton!" thing is getting tiresome. …the "whataboutery" is irritatingly out of place. The best argument that Trump supporters seem to have is "he's not Hillary Clinton", which isn't real...

Bit off-topic but it made me think of Steersman [emoji1063]

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Neither one nor the other. It was something called a hypothetical, designed to test whether hacking voting machines is really the only thing that matters in terms of blameworthy collusion with foreign agents. Nope. There are plenty of issues that could arise. I was asked for one, so I picked a more...

Official Russian government hackers? Or script kiddies who live in Russia? Either, so long as they are being directed/influenced by the Kremlin. So say YOU of your own volition opt to break into some Swedish political party's servers and steal information, is that really the fault of the United Sta...

If Trump requested the Russians hack the electronic voting machines for him to win. So if Russian hackers coordinated with Kushner's campaign data unit to time and target releases of DNC dox, it's no problem in your book? You have any evidence that that was what actually happened, or is that just i...

Question for the pro-Trump folks here. What level of campaign collusion with Russian intelligence would put you off, and would sort of evidence would it take to convince you? If Trump requested the Russians hack the electronic voting machines for him to win. So if Russian hackers coordinated with K...

Steersman wrote:Speaking of "propaganda" ... ;)

I'd be happy to admit the happy/sas Pope meme is an example thereof, naturally. Costs me nothing to call a spade a spade.

d4m10n wrote:Which of those lies are the most consequential, in terms of policy importance or public impact?

Not clear on your answer to this one, Steers Mann.

None of them look interesting or terribly relevant to me. Happy Pope / Sad Pope? GMAFB.

Which of those lies are the most consequential, in terms of policy importance or public impact?

When all the real men leave (taking civilization with us) can we at least a few females for breeding?

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For Steersman naturally

Easy J wrote:On the subject of cultural appropriation, I believe Mazda did a bit of that, channeling the British roadster with the Miata. Went over spectacularly well, too.

Not to mention branding the Zoroastrian god.

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Kirbmarc wrote:Peter Ferguson is the most boring person on twitter. Even PZ Myers is more entertaining, if only because of his rants. Ferguson is just a tiresome bore, a holier-than-thou, pontificating twitter warrior.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdZ0RGzfvXM[/youtube] I haven't really tuned into Morning Joe from November until today. Evidently they are no longer busy normalizing or chumming around with teh Donald. On this point, Miranda has a theory: https://twitter.com/mirandachale/status/8806358619...

My apologies to Dr. Thorndike, but you get the idea.

John D wrote:Why would I want to hang out with a woman who not only manipulated my emotions...

Because Pavlovian reinforcement can be positive rather than negative.

...but also made more money than me?

Because you can buy things with money.

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John D wrote:and so really, men usually like to take care of women and women like to be taken care of by men.

So.. what's a guy to do?

Marry a career-oriented woman with high earning potential?

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Just heard Carrie Poppy on the radio...

Sort of an introduction to skepticism without mention of the skeptic community.

Within the skeptic/atheist community what she said was acceptable. But what was also acceptable at the time is any time your bring up a point, people will debate the hell out of it. Trying to tell people they were bad for debating it was the worse possible move. Yes. The issue was whether feminism ...

Six years ago today: http://skepchick.org/2011/06/about-myth ... and-jokes/

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But I still think he is or was decidely the lesser of two evils, at least at the time of the election; moot whether that still holds. It's a moot point by now. He WON, he's the Goddamn President, there's no point in wondering whether he was the lesser of the evils. I don't think it's entirely moot ...

I see I am dealing with fools. You've just now noticed? Wiseassery aside, the operation to take out Heydrich and the fact that he, of all the possible Nazis, was the only one targeted for assassination is one of the most fascinating episodes of the war. Has anyone seen the film dramatization Anthro...

I spent thousands of hours in the Oregon Coast range. Hunting, fishing and messing around. I grew up in Roseburg (it's okay to extend pity). Beautiful country, thousands of forgotten logging roads and the like in the coastal mountains. If you don't mind, roughly what section are you in? Bit more in...

WTF

Here are the details of said recusal:

Seems to me the AG recused himself from everything arising from the campaigns of 2016, but then we know he sacked Comey for reasons related thereto.

Sessions just committed not to sack Mueller, under oath. :p

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Totes adorbs imo

I find Shermer's position ironic. [tweet]https://twitter.com/michaelshermer/status/874355823396306944 [/tweet] It gets more ironical still: https://twitter.com/michaelshermer/status/826824597412589569 https://twitter.com/michaelshermer/status/826824597412589569 Presumably Shermer has no problem wit...

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d4m10n wrote: Still, 42% of newlyweds sounds surprisingly high.
I wasn't clear. Of the 1 in 6 new marriages that are interracial, 42% are white/hispanic.

Oh ah thx

Trump wanted Comey to just say there was no investigation. Comey wanted to leave the world with the impression that there was an open investigation into Trump... even though there wasn't. Why would he do this? If Comey learned only one lesson from election 2016, it may have been that publicly annou...

Trump wanted Comey to just say there was no investigation. Comey wanted to leave the world with the impression that there was an open investigation into Trump... even though there wasn't. Why would he do this? If Comey learned only one lesson from election 2016, it may have been that publicly annou...

I looked up the source of that 1 in 6 interracial marriage statistic. White and black marriage (the strongest taboo IMO, and the one everyone immediately thinks of when this subject comes up) at 11% actually accounts for less of the total than do white and interracial marriages. White and hispanic ...

Are you saying, John, that Director Comey caused some tangible harm to the FBI or the USA by sharing his own personal recollections via the newspaper of record? Seems to me that he did the right thing; Americans deserved to know about those conversations, especially in light of Comey's unpresidented...

Do we really call it leaking when there is no legal duty to protect the information?

Fucking Sam Harris. He lets his anti-Trump guests just rattle on about total bullshit (as long as everything they say is anti-Trump). Sam can't even think straight right now. He actually speculates that a Trump presidency will result in destruction of democracy in America. WTF? I.... can't... even....

Fucking Sam Harris. He lets his anti-Trump guests just rattle on about total bullshit (as long as everything they say is anti-Trump). Sam can't even think straight right now. He actually speculates that a Trump presidency will result in destruction of democracy in America. WTF? I.... can't... even....

And there he goes... http://imgur.com/WzhjW3s.png He just couldn't help himself. Maybe this will be the time she'll let him boil her panties into soup. He's suspicious Dawkins is blackballing others we don't know about. Oh really? Is Peez just projecting what HE's done to people apart from Abbie? N...

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d4m10n wrote:
Get with the fucking program, DayDays!

Been on the road all day.

Should've known better.

Straight from the horse's mouth: You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has l...

I was talking about the 53% of white women, not the Romney 47% remark. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/white-women-donald-trump-victory Where did you get 11 million "deplorables," btw? Seems low to me: https://twitter.com/SkepticInk/status/775211671497351168 Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N...

Kirbmarc wrote:So...pretty divisive.

Amazingly so. It takes a certain indifference to political unity to openly chastise the 47% for the sins of the 53%, based on nothing more than circumstances of birth.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/hillary-clinton-democrats-wrong-questions/ Democrats not learning, Clinton refuses responsibility. CNN isn't learning, either. Here's the end of the second sentence: "...non-criminal undocumented immigrants." How long does it take to find 8 USC § 1325 on the w...

I would not have expected Clinton to fare so well as Obama in any event. She lacks his charm, his backstory, his ethnic identity, his way with words. She is not, in his words, "likable enough." I'd say the best measure of baseline (in terms of national mood) would be the slight GOP edge in House rac...

In others words more focus on class and less on ID politics might be a path to victory. Agreed. This will be somewhat easier for Dems in 2018 & 2020 because they will not be running on the status quo, which allows them to credibly propose significant economic reforms, e.g. unrepealing/expanding ACA...

But on the election, I'm pretty well convinced on one thing. What swung it wasn't the Comey conference, or even Basket of Deplorables...it was the announced Obamacare rate hikes. And with Clinton basically the status quo candidate, that sunk her IMO. That's the event that triggered the final downwa...

Clinton wanted to create an appeal to a checkerboard of identity politics but didn't appeal to working class or even many middle class whites, Trump pandered to American populism, on appealing to Americans in general as much as he could. Clinton needed to appeal to minority voters, because they are...

It doesn't much matter to me if you think a quarter of all Americans are irredeemable or half of all Americans. Either position means you have no business leading the country. Thank goodness POTUS avoids insulting any particular fraction of the citizenry. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

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