If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Quick note about the tablegate nonsense. It seems Skepchick's remaining defense is two things: 1) The policy was worded strangely 2) Other people were breaking the rules as stated The funny thing is that the policy is crafted to protect vendors. Just like someone can find a new way to violate a har...

So, while all this DramaCon Tablegate kerfuffle was happening over the weekend, a real atheist conference happened. http://aaaboston2013.com/schedule.html The Atheist Alliance of America 2013 National Convention and Atheist Alliance international North American Convention was held in Boston (isn't ...

Barbara Drescher has taken issue on Facebook with some of Sara Mayhew's account of tablegate: Sara's story is about as accurate as Rebecca and Amy's, unfortunately. The tables are clustered, but they're not restricted like that. They moved the table after the staff member responsible for concourse ...

When I think of the Slymepit, I imagine a branded stadium filled with popcorn munching spectators, nattering away while watching the game on a field emblazoned with FtB / Skepchick / A+ colours and logos. Sometimes the game slows, but then it picks up: points are cheered, we boo the goal kickers, in...

<snip> Havenâ€™t read it yet, but I sort of think that the SGU interview that Brive1987 referenced above provides somewhat of an answer (linky?). I think this place kind provides the contrast with Pharyngula that emphasizes the point that, once a forum starts down the path of heavy moderation and a...

Plonk wrote:Someone gave an anonymous $1000 donation for Shermer's legal fund, so the $5000 target has been reached :clap:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/micha ... legal-fund

:dance: :text-thankyouyellow:

Yea, it looks like PZ did the same to this comment by Flewellyn. Rather interesting though is PZâ€™s editorial comment at the end of it: Havenâ€™t read it yet, but I sort of think that the SGU interview that Brive1987 referenced above provides somewhat of an answer (linky?). I think this place kind...

SGU, last episode, interview segment.

SNovella has nice spray at internet blog site echo chamber effect / dissent = troll conflation. Somehow I don't think he was 'really' talking about anti vax sites.

Pity RW wasn't there to provide her perspective on how these sites clamp down disagreement.

"It means that if things are the same next year, I wonâ€™t be able to attend DragonCon again despite the requests of the many people who apparently enjoy my contributions each year"

So it's a threat now in reverse. Talk about being bent over.

Derek Colanduno is host of Skepticality, official podcast of Skeptic Magazine and the Skeptics Society, which Shermer founded. http://www.skepticality.com/about-us/ But, of course, in his role as policy-enforcer today, Colanduno could have just been responding to complaints lodged by people who'd p...

Conference policy: Play nice, take direction from staff, have fun. Context is all and no policy can actually set useful pragmatic rules that can be applied by coal face staff. Policies are really a mission statement of ideology. Seen like this "I get it". But patriarchy etc is also a statement of id...

Re recent run of articles by PZ. I assume they are as much to establish that it would be amazing if Shermer wasn't a rapist, by default, as anything else.

Setting the stage.

PZ latest post says "Harassment is persistent, aggressive behavior with the purpose of intimidating or silencing someone." How does that work for him in his comments section? I'm certainly glad we don't want to intimidate or silence anyone like JV. Also has anyone noticed how,since getting her depu...

PZ's point that 'of course' we shouldn't harass Christians, just their ideas is very Sam Harris. I'd like to see how you separate the two when the ideas are firmly and closely held as part of self-identity. A bit like going against radfem version of patriarchy without denigrating those who wield the...

PZ latest post says "Harassment is persistent, aggressive behavior with the purpose of intimidating or silencing someone." How does that work for him in his comments section? I'm certainly glad we don't want to intimidate or silence anyone like JV. Also has anyone noticed how,since getting her deput...

Therefore I try to reject those Ideas that belittle the human experience. LOLz! I think you should define what you mean by that, because in many ways, I believe humanity, and this "intelligence" we've ended up with, is a bad joke. We are very much "special", but I don't see how our experience has a...

JackR - That your experiences are unique at the micro level - granted. That there is a macro human experience, unique relative to our relationships with other species/objects - obvious. That this experience is founded on god - ridiculous. That we shouldn't invest in enriching broader human society -...

Therefore I try to reject those Ideas that belittle the human experience. LOLz! I think you should define what you mean by that, because in many ways, I believe humanity, and this "intelligence" we've ended up with, is a bad joke. We are very much "special", but I don't see how our experience has a...

Nothing wrong with A+ Atheism leads to humanism leads to rejecting those values that demean what it means to be human leads to 'social justice'. Beyond this broad construct though the realised ideology of A+ and, dear god, the people and sanctimonious bullshit, well that's a different matter. For S...

Also, ever notice how "intent isn't magic" actually means "intent doesn't matter at all"? Nailed it. It really is all about how they can get their hate on when it comes to their real or even PERCEIVED ideological (or racial, sexual, class)enemies and still feel good about themselves afterwards. Unl...

Atheism doesnt entail humanism - just is very logically compatible. Isn't humanism also compatible with belief in the existence of a God? It all depends what kind of God it is. If a God promotes humanism then theism would be compatible with humanism. Therefore I try to reject those Ideas that belit...

Just as a side note, two things that annoy the fuck out of me about Myers's writing habit is prefacing everything he thinks might be clever with "Wait..." And also his almost daily habit of framing things jocularly in terms of conquest or authority. "Now we're taking over..." "Now I'm really tortur...

Atheism leads to humanism Not believing in the existence of a God leads to humanism? I don't see how. Atheism doesnt entail humanism - just is very logically compatible. Like I said you can be any sort of atheist you want, apathetic, nihilistic, SJW. I find that if I want a personal world view and ...

Atheism Doesn't have have to lead to anything of course, and you are not compelled to believe anything. I'm just saying to me it is logical if there is no god to look for value in humans because that is all we have, and that tends to lead to a general humanist perspective on life. I'm sure the spect...

Yah!!!!!!!!!! 10 is the magic number to go from yellow to blue. I. Feel. So. Special.

Nothing wrong with A+

Atheism leads to humanism leads to rejecting those values that demean what it means to be human leads to 'social justice'.

Beyond this broad construct though the realised ideology of A+ and, dear god, the people and sanctimonious bullshit, well that's a different matter.

Does anyone have a link to PZ acknowledging/discussing having been accused of harassment in the past? Can't find it. http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2013/03/30/defamation-is-not-disagreement/#comment-106866 Cap http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/pzacc.jpg "I sure as hell hope they take both sid...

I am doing it; I'm waiting for more information :whistle: Honestly, this seems like a situation where I (and many others) may have lots of opinions, but I have no business actually getting involved. Well, beyond going "boo, hiss" at Myers. It's not my fight, at the moment. Others feel differently, ...

I suspect there is a growing niche market for events conflating humanism, SJ, secularism et al which will see the current fracas in positively glowing light. I can't see, for instance, CSI maintaining a hold on the A/Feminist market. In addition PZ's street value always lay in being the 'dangerous' ...

Would anybody like to offer an opinion (and help get of this subject of rape) and try and summarize how they lay of the land looks in regards to conferences in the coming year? I think that it is fair to say that unless there is some shocking evidence yet to emerge, PZ is persona non grata for many...

ThePrussian wrote:
Plonk wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Hello. Just want to establish a presence here after getting banned at Pharyngula ...
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Yes, indeed. Welcome!

"I'm looking forward to completing your training. In time you will call *me* master. "

Ps I am still digesting your posts from today.

Fuck! Thunderf00t being savaged by Bigfoot. I am starting to wonder how many of these hard core SJWs live in bum-fuck nowhere with hardly anyone to talk to, hardly any real life friends thus leaving with the internet for just about their only social outlet... Um Caine (according to her public websi...

Hello. Just want to establish a presence here after getting banned at Pharyngula last night from a single entry and then having that post deleted. Equal and opposite reaction at work. Saved for posterity below. Tis truly evil. ____ I can't see anyone engaging with wanderson's #39 point: take the su...

If your polite and moderate disagreement is the sort of thing that passes for 'trolling' on FtB these days...I am speechless, to be honest. That is shameful. Yep. I guess I rolled three critiques into one post while PZ was on a bender. After my post there was apparently a dog-pile on wandersen and ...

Hello. Just want to establish a presence here after getting banned at Pharyngula last night from a single entry and then having that post deleted. Equal and opposite reaction at work. Saved for posterity below. Tis truly evil. ____ I can't see anyone engaging with wanderson's #39 point: take the sub...

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