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by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Or Poisonous Little Miss Sunshine.
by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Via Andy Ngo, the dozens of rioters in Portland released without bail: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/08/antifa-mugshots-several-portland-rioters-released-without-bail/ secondmugshots-640x480.jpg Guess which one the cops gave extra attention to. Hint: not "The Ugly", Johnny Rotten, Hugh...
by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:42 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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If I was forced to do something like this, I'd get violent. Unlikely to ever happen to me - the company I work for is too small to have the resources to put into this shit. But holy crap. I wouldn't, but there's one superpower that I do have. Once I determine a person is hopelessly idiotic, I tune ...
by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:39 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

If I was forced to do something like this, I'd get violent. Unlikely to ever happen to me - the company I work for is too small to have the resources to put into this shit. But holy crap. I wouldn't, but there's one superpower that I do have. Once I determine a person is hopelessly idiotic, I tune ...
by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:21 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Can any member of the public arrange a private session with the stylist? I may be going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling if you produce enough $ you can have a private meeting with any stylist anywhere, anytime you like. I doubt anyone is so naive as to think Pelosi doesn't wield quite a bi...
by Hunt
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Ouch. Poor Pelosi. https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1301884086550626306?s=21 I'm willing to give her a begrudging pass on this. The shop owner seems like a nasty piece of work, blamed Pelosi personally for reducing her business. Pelosi had arranged a private session, with only the stylist. I thi...
by Hunt
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Service Dog wrote: Then, Hunt mentioned Sheriff Clarke-- in a complete out-of-the-blue non-sequitur. Hunt made a bizarre claim:
It will make perfect sense after four glasses of wine.
by Hunt
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

free thoughtpolice wrote: Just proves though that there are plenty of Blacks for Trump, like Kanye.
Beyond even the slightest shadow of a doubt. The chance that this is not true is statistically miniscule.
by Hunt
Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Worth noting: David Clarke is the former County Sheriff of Milwaukee, Wisconsin a few miles north of Kenosha. He's black. Dude is about as Oreo as it gets. He's of that particular type of wingnut who sports a goatee, broad rim cowbee hat, boots and sour, self righteous attitude. All hat, no cattle....
by Hunt
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

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Trump's new ad... resembles a low-budget grassroots meme, more than a typical political ad, or Lincoln Project ad... Doesn't even make sense. All I see is an out of context clip of Harris laughing on an image of Biden and some ominous music. Harris was overly strict on crime as a prosecutor for dog...
by Hunt
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:03 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Trump's new ad... resembles a low-budget grassroots meme, more than a typical political ad, or Lincoln Project ad... Doesn't even make sense. All I see is an out of context clip of Harris laughing on an image of Biden and some ominous music. Harris was overly strict on crime as a prosecutor for dog...
by Hunt
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

jugheadnaut wrote:

It used to be you had to use Photoshop to get an image like this.
If you got a bod like that, flaunt it baby flaunt it!

by Hunt
Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

fuzzy wrote: In other news, it appears that I'm going to be having a radical prostatectomy within the next couple of months.
Good luck with that. I'm sure you've already heard/considered the robotic surgery? Supposed to make things much easier.
by Hunt
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:31 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Have you watched any of the Roger Moore Bond's recently? Perhaps it's just nostalgia degrading those memories - because no one seems to consider those films as their favourites. The Spy Who Love Me is my favourite, and best, Bond. Craig is awful. Dalton was good at doing what Craig is supposed to b...
by Hunt
Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:25 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Have you watched any of the Roger Moore Bond's recently? Perhaps it's just nostalgia degrading those memories - because no one seems to consider those films as their favourites. I used to have a Thai roommate, loved Moore, hated Connery. Was very upset that Bond slept with Grace Jones. Racist assho...
by Hunt
Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:20 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Watching Quantum of Solace on Netflix, realizing that I don't really enjoy the Daniel Craig version of JB. He's not as casually deadly as Connery and not at all funny, like Moore. I can't remember the exact quote, but was something like "Connery would kill you with a laugh and Moore would have you ...
by Hunt
Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:32 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Watching Quantum of Solace on Netflix, realizing that I don't really enjoy the Daniel Craig version of JB. He's not as casually deadly as Connery and not at all funny, like Moore. I can't remember the exact quote, but was something like "Connery would kill you with a laugh and Moore would have you l...
by Hunt
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:48 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Brive1987 wrote:
It doesn't really matter that non of them are going to have any cartilage left in their knees by the time they're 40 because they're all going to be dead from Covid-30 before then.
by Hunt
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:46 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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I eat a lot of nuts. Must...resist...bait! Come on, you know you want to. Fuck it - consider yourself doxxed! https://twitter.com/WashedMel/status/1295549096263131142 What does that have to do with buffaloes? https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/8/c/9/0/d/4/8c90d4ab0e06a0a14533b3498e20b6b...
by Hunt
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

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Don't fuck with the tatanka: https://twitter.com/ThatLakotaGuy/status/1294324033593520128 Once on a trip to Utah I was doing the tourist stroll down a country street in a small town and came upon a buffalo grazing in field behind a flimsy fence. I walked over to the edge of the fence, maybe thirty ...
by Hunt
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:22 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Brive1987 wrote: Plus 4000 IU Vitamin D with a spoonful of coconut oil - because it’s winter.
Ideally, I would like to cook everything with coconut oil and also consume a few teaspoons of MCT each day. They can cause interesting times on the toilet though.
by Hunt
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:02 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Bhurzum wrote:
Hunt wrote: I eat a lot of nuts.
Must...resist...bait!
Come on, you know you want to.
by Hunt
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

I eat a lot of nuts.
by Hunt
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Probably opening a can of worms here, but anyone care to list the supplements they take? I personally intermittently take a range of B vitamins, glucosamine and chondroitin for joints, sometimes Vit. C depending on diet. and others... I'm into brain health, so I'm interested in keeping blood sugar d...
by Hunt
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Lack of exercise and increased stress are allowing run away cortisol levels Exercise also lowers glucose levels and high stress hormone levels release glucose. An hour of HIIT training is achievable by most people, even if it's on a stationary bike. But insulin is less commonly tested than blood su...
by Hunt
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
“I just got word that Ed Brayton died peacefully last night.“
by Hunt
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:12 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Seems Ed Brayton is not physically well these days: https://web.archive.org/save/https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2020/08/09/a-sad-announcement-from-ed-brayton/#comments Giving credit where credit's due, Brayton was one of the first to peg PZ as an asshole. The atheist-sphere would have done ...
by Hunt
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

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Sometimes I seriously think the only hope for the middle east is if aliens land and sort things out. Where are Klaatu and Gort when you need them?
by Hunt
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Brive1987 wrote:
If I saw something like that the first thing I would think is "nuclear", which may just mean I know nothing about explosives.
by Hunt
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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"viril", viral works too.
by Hunt
Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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justinvacula wrote: Yup. PZ's mad about everything.
Especially that life made him PZ Myers, not Chad Myers, ultra viral science stud.
by Hunt
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:09 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Beer snobs are worse than wine snobs.
by Hunt
Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:00 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9586345

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At the risk of committing a Pit heresy, I'll say something semi-nice about Peezer. He was a guest on the excellent YouTube channel Paulogia that he mentions, and at least in this video seems to have learned from it that a calmer, more surgical approach is more effective than his usual impotent ravi...
by Hunt
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:39 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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MarcusAu wrote:
Hunt wrote: He dyed his beard purple...
Nice to see a (semi) nod to (non) convention, I suppose...

These days old folk are pumped full of Haldol long before they're able to make it to purple.
by Hunt
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:13 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Lsuoma wrote: I know that JBP went a bit off the rails, but that is loopy to the tonsils...
He dyed his beard purple, but now it seems to be getting blacker. That, his sanpaku, and pudgy face are beginning to make him look truly bizarre.
by Hunt
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:11 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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I know that JBP went a bit off the rails, but that is loopy to the tonsils... He dyed his beard purple Bhurzum wrote: Yeah, they have that "safe and confident that my authority is like a shield of steel" strut that you'll rarely see in a soldier. We tend to jitter, twitch and scurry around (eyes co...
by Hunt
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Same day George Floyd was killed. 2min15sec: "I can't breathe" https://youtu.be/2lgK-apbl8Y Seen that on twotter yesterday. Very heavy-handed approach and bad optics for the police. If they do jail that dude (I'm hearing that a seven year stretch is on the table), it's sure to cause more unrest alt...
by Hunt
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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The movies are true! There are Nazis on the dark side of the moon.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/071/0/11401 ... 6_rdpd.jpg
by Hunt
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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This is sure to become "the" American news event for the next few days. I have no idea what is actually going on. Whose side is the woman really on? Who owns the dog? Fat boy says "nappy". Whose property is it? Is that the black guy huddled against the tree and what is happening? https://www.youtube...
by Hunt
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:20 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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It's skin vs. genitals.

Skin wins.
by Hunt
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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That's it. I am in cognitive decline.
by Hunt
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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BTW it's fricken hard to get 26 in MMSE, or maybe I'm demented. I meant the MOCA, the one where 26-30 is normal, and not easy to do. I don't think I've done the MMSE. You'd better not try the MOCA then, it's tough. I'm thinking something more like Parkinson-Plus . Facial immobility, a common featur...
by Hunt
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Assuming Biden wins in November, how many of you think he will last for all his first term? Or will his VP get a promotion before the term is up? I don't like the blank look, nor the long pause before answering, and the poverty of vocabulary. If he were sitting in my office I'd be pretending that w...
by Hunt
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:34 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Pitchguest, I'm so sorry to hear that. Don't let small regrets trouble you more than you already are. They are meaningless and everyone has them. Do you have friends/family to talk to?
by Hunt
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:36 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Brive1987 wrote:

A metaphor for 2020
I certainly hope his wife's gun isn't loaded. Several times if her finger had slipped, she would have blown his brains out.
by Hunt
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:30 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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So this has started to infect the company I work for. It's a small, private company; maybe 40 people. Mostly Australians, but we have 4 Americans. 3 of the Americans are pushing to change the long standing "Master/Slave" terminology we've had into our software since the beginning. None of the Austr...
by Hunt
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Now Junipero Serra statues are coming down in northern and southern California. There's one version of it that I've fantasized about destroying for years. I've driven past this abomination for decades: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/ab/1f/d7ab1f20200a234ed6b83dbbfd821c16.jpg To punish yourself fu...
by Hunt
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:59 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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"Cop culture" doesn't equate with "the police". A minimal definition would be the fraternal us v. them entitled attitude that they're warrior defending a thin blue line between civilization and crime, that the general populace are sheep that need to be defended and that the methods for doing so giv...
by Hunt
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Steven Pinker Mr. Peabody on US, Iran history:

by Hunt
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:42 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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If we can agree that neither are Police dept's systemically racist, nor are LEOs predominantly racist individuals, then we can move on to your assertion -- if I understand it correctly -- that a prevailing "cop culture" of brutality exists, of such severity it requires aggressive and sweeping overh...
by Hunt
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Wow, Stephen Hsu resigns/demoted because he once mentioned IQ to Stefan Molyneux.

That's it, we're living in one of Peezee's wet dreams.
by Hunt
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:10 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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When the leftist MSM and the internet mob fall into apoplexy over George Floyd, but ignore Tony Timpa or Justine Damond, when BLM and its Useful Idiots decry the "genocide" of 9 unarmed blacks killed by police last year (only two of whom were not in the midst of committing a crime) out of c. 15 mil...
by Hunt
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:57 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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You've previously indicated that your understanding of US 'cop culture' is based on a handful of youtube videos, plus sensationalist yellow journalism. As someone who not only relies on LE for my personal safety, but who also is friends with active and retired LE, a rapid tearing down of the police...
by Hunt
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:49 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Hunt wrote: ↑ First and foremost the Gestapo operated with public approval No, it was almost universally reviled. They relied primarily on public denouncement. No, on spies and informants, on wire taps and roving vans equipped with sensitive listening devices. Well, not according to a documentary I...
by Hunt
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:20 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Keating wrote: Somehow this 1945 academy award winning documentary seems appropriate:
He whipped himself into quite a fuhrer.
by Hunt
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:18 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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Do you agree that there are _some_ criteria-- which would indeed render a society the equivalent of a 'new gestapo' or 'dictatorship'? I'm saying we've deteriorated into that kind of shithole. Not in every-single police encounter-- but often-enough to have abandoned the trust of the public. There a...
by Hunt
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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The mob has taken Seattle city hall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/seattle-protesters-storm-city-hall-demand-mayor-resign-after-driving-police-out-of-area-declaring-autonomous-zone/ar-BB15ioJo Just a matter of time -- the mob attack a car, the occupants are carrying: https://www.usnews.com/news...
by Hunt
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:27 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
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drug possession laws exist, and in many states are prisonable offenses. So the vast majority of citizens have been potential subject to incarceration, in a so-called free nation. It's frankly insane. Know what's insane? In California, a theft of less than $950 cannot by law be prosecuted, while pos...
by Hunt
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:25 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Doing something about them would make a world of difference.
And that would be?
by Hunt
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
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And so the cycle continues. There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds. There are laws against drugs for moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons. Supplying the market is criminali...