If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

The clone's got a new post up, which I read through twice before I realized it wasn't by the source material. Creepily exact similarities: - Broadly sarcastic diction (Ophie does sarcasm better), - Framing the "new rule" as a forceful "suggestion", which has always been the source material's style, ...

As for "chiding", I'd say it could be construed as somewhat gendered, but a different sense- it's more often used to describe a condescending man lecturing a woman. "Mansplaining", in SJW-speak.

Obama was apparently trying to be good, in praising Harris in ways relevant to her performance as an attorney general, but IMO he was indeed tone deaf, in commenting on her looks and also in that awkwardly self-aware opening "you have to be careful to, first of all, say she is...". Looks aren't a c...

Ok, wow. I seriously need to follow McEwan more, for the lulz. Here's Obama's "misogynist" quote: You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that ever...

So Roger Ebert just died. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/movies/roger-ebert-film-critic-dies.html?pagewanted=all This fucking sucks. He was my favorite film critic, one of my favorite bloggers, and just generally awesome. I've been following him on social media for years, and his optimism in the ...

Ok, I've finally gotten caught up on the recent butthurt from LeftSidePositive. I'm laughing pretty hard. These guys always melt down sooner or later. There's just too much bottled-up "valid anger".

People with privilege are people too. This is sort of an important point. Idk, but it's like the SJWs expect "privileged groups" to be like emotionless automatons who should simply tolerate "valid" vitriol, dehumanization, and abuse... and that's a reasonable expectation to have. What? No. Fuck off.

As for Miri, I may be wrong, but unfortunately she seems to be on the fast track to radfem. Presently she seems to be fairly free of it, but the signs are there. Apparently she was a McCain/Palin supporter four years ago. And, you know, she's like 21. So idk, she might be rubberbanding to the other...

Apropos of nothing in particular, but Crommunist really is an arrogant motherfucker, isn't he? I mean Christ. I'll grant that he is probably one of the better bloggers on FtB. Of course this isn't saying much, because Crommunist, Ophelia when she's not just aggregating, that new college girl Miri, a...

Again, McEwan and Brian miss the point. I really couldn't give a rat's ass if spittle perpetually covers your monitor. That's fine, if that's how they want to spend their days. But what I do care about is whether your positions are reasonably argued and logically justified. If they aren't, I'll be r...

And of course, the first time I read that post by the clone, I thought it was PZ. Jesus.

I'm a little bit torn on the EllenBeth Wachs thing. Sure, they were nasty to her, but at the same time, they really weren't any nastier than they are to anyone who violates the SJW dogma that they hold sacrosanct. Really, this is my issue with Pharyngulan emotionalism, and their defense of it as "va...

Cunt can be a nasty word in certain contexts, but I certainly wouldn't put it on the level of faggot or nigger. I mean, that's ridiculous. Also, it trivializes the words, faggot and nigger.

I'm going back a few pages here, but I have to say I am fascinated by the fact that Peezus and Thibeault both claim to have been falsely accused of rape. I had no idea. Assuming they're telling the truth, it's very interesting that two of FfTB's most prominent male bloggers have admitted to being on...

Another feminist here!

I actually do try to cut Taslima some slack, because at the very least she isn't fixated on first world problem bullshit like Peezee & friends. But come on.

They're having a lil heart to heart in the Lounge. I feel like kind of a dick for laughing my ass off, but laughing my ass off I am.

I'll be totally honest, part of the reason I post here is that the Pit reminds me of Old Pharyngula, from about 2010 and earlier. I never really posted much, but I would lurk a lot, because it was just so damned entertaining. Yes, yes, it was always heated- that hasn't changed. But back when it was ...

Also, yeah, that Etienne thing is a lazy trolling effort. It's a copypasta from some old blog post that caused a minor furor like 2-3 years ago. I'm LOLing at the Pharyngulans scrambling to disown it while still affirming the "validity of anger".

Cerberus wrote:Look at this. Stare at the inhuman vileness of your character. Be aware and do not run.

This would be a pretty good opening to a Dethklok song.

I sort of scrolled through like half of Cerberus' dissertation. All I could think of was this:

Holy shit, is that THE Julian? The "die in a fire" A+theist? If so, Jesus. PZ and the Hivemind really ARE jumping the shark. I was sort of thinking things were settling down a bit, Pharyngula would be a sort of liberal feminist space with a secondary focus on atheism, the Slymepit would criticize th...

Peez actually has a pretty good post up, about the applications of philosophy to science: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/23/we-need-a-sociologist-of-scienceor-a-philosopher/ He's right. It's times like these that remind me that PZ is actually a PhD, a professor of biology, and basica...

Holy shit, that Shakesville post is fucking hilarious! Yes, kids, suddenly Adria Richards was a "victim of harassment", "bullying behavior", and "harassing fuckwads". For overhearing a "dongle" joke.

GodDAMN, and I thought PZ was hysterical.

Isn't Ellen Beth Wachs a manager/organizer or some sort? That's probably where this comes from. She's aware of how quickly things can turn into a clusterfuck if you don't use proper channels when it comes to this stuff. I'm actually not sure I agree with her, though... like I said, Richards shouldn'...

Hmmm, interesting. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/21/a-reminder/comment-page-1/#comment-584364 Is Peez getting a little worn down by the SJW guilt-centered identity politics? It looks like it, a little bit, even if he'd never admit it. I mean in the end, he's an old straight white mi...

I love this comment from Peezus: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/22/adria-richards-did-everything-exactly-right/comment-page-1/#comment-584878 Peez, my man, when your posts about women are always characterized by feminist hysterics, there's really not that much "other direction" to go...

Intent isn't magic, after all. well yeah, but I also don't think that this was a foreseeable outcome to Richards' actions. That's on the dumbass employers of the guy. She shouldn't have made the Tweet public, is really the only thing I can ding her for. But again, this is really more a case of imag...

I donâ€™t think any of this really matters, but you donâ€™t have to guess at why someone was put in PZâ€™s dungeon, the info is usually right there. Except for reneeâ€™s. He appears to have memoryholed her entry. Which is kind of amusing, because were she still up there, sheâ€™d be the only obvious...

There's something. She goes on and on about all the misogynist abuse she gets, like, as she says: fat cunt, stupid cunt, cunty-cunt-cunt, blah blah fart . But look at the one flame that she chose to publicize, from John Brown: Dear Melissa McEwan. Here is my answer. No. Go fuck yourself. Is that agg...

The whole McEwan thing is making me LOL. I mean Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, talk about uncharitable. If this were anything other than fucking FEMINISM, Peezus would be shrieking at the top of his lungs. Not that I care, because fuck PZ, but it is hilarious to watch McEwan twist his words to mean... I...

The whole McEwan thing is making me LOL. I mean Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, talk about uncharitable. If this were anything other than fucking FEMINISM, Peezus would be shrieking at the top of his lungs. Not that I care, because fuck PZ, but it is hilarious to watch McEwan twist his words to mean... I...

I think it's important to remember that the "straight" in "straight white male", as used by the SJWs, is more just a rhetorical device than anything else. Unless sex or race, sexuality is a continuum and so "straightness" is hard to define; a lot of men are at least a little bit gay. But of course, ...

@Apples- Great point. In fact, it was specifically determined in Arver v. United States that conscription is constitutionally permitted in the US. Therefore, bodily autonomy is not inviolate under the American legal system (I'm being a little Amerocentric because I'm pretty sure that virtually every...

Marcotte's racist book cover really was hilarious. She claimed it was an oversight... and I mean, it probably was, but jesus fuck. She makes a living as a feminist blogger mainly concerned with endlessly combing through pop culture for "problematic" elements, but then she ships her book with a cover...

You know, I actually want to clarify something. I never said I agreed with Dawkins about the abortion tweets. As a matter of fact I think his reasoning is flawed here. I don't agree with him. However I think that Twitter is a horrible medium for this kind of discussion, and Dawkins pretty obviously ...

LOL. I'll admit, I'm not a fan of AVfM. I gave them a chance (mostly because PZ hates them so much) but the site is pretty misogynist and (even worse) poorly written. But it's good to know that if I had been "caught" familiarizing myself with the blog so I could make an informed judgment, I would ha...

First comment at the Shakesville post, from Melissa McEwan: Unlike many atheist friends, I think you are a joke and a fuckhead. Great post, Ana. Right. Celebrated intellectual, respected biologist, and bestselling author Richard Dawkins is "a joke". And following logically, noted internet cunt Melis...

The issue is that the feminist blogosphere is almost hilariously dogmatic, particularly Shakesville, and particularly when it comes to abortion. It's a little like Syme in 1984 - it's not enough to have the "right" opinions; you also have to follow the "right" path of reasoning to get to them. Dawki...

Some Shakesville minion is yelling at Dawkins for the abortion tweets.

What's her point? I don't know, fuck if I'm going to read all that shit, but this looks to be becoming a thing, so fyi.

Haha, Physioprof said "skank".

I thought he was an dutiful feminist ally?

I picture Melissa McEwan and Amanda Marcotte as sort of arch-nemises (nemesi?) in fighting over who's the craziest feminist in the atheist movement. Haha. I'll say that McEwan provides more comedy, because she yearns and hopes and talks about a better tomorrow . Her writing style is equal parts New...

Obviously I have no problem with women in atheism... but I gotta plead guilty here. I am interested in making this movement as hostile as possible to Melissa McEwan.

However SJW's traditionally hate any form of criticism or flaming so they tend to be on the censorious side. Agreed. The rise of anti-feminist/anti-SJW sentiment on sites like Reddit is no coincidence; it's a result of a pattern of increasingly childish, obnoxious, repulsive behavior from a this co...

I'm also going to go ahead and say that I didn't mind Sarkeesian disabling comments. She knows that a good chunk of Youtube commentariat is not going to agree with her the fundamental premise upon which her videos are predicated; this isn't news and she isn't trying to cover anything up. She wants t...

I'm not going to go pour through his blog, but P.Z. has indeed been that critical of Hitchens in the past.

Fair enough; I'll retract that point. I just remember a lot of really pro-Hitchens stuff on the Sb site, although it's true I wasn't reading regularly.

Has PZ ever been this critical of Hitchens before? Yeah, he still defends him, but it's a pretty tepid effort. I get the distinct impression that he's trying to placate his commenters in advance. Now understand, I have no problem with criticizing Hitch- I took issue with some of his politics too- bu...

My reaction to Elyse's pictures? Meh. That's pretty much exactly how I'd someone who recently lost a lot of weight to look. As someone who has suffered from body image issues, this shit really is 95% in your head.

Benson's most recent is 8% original content.

The woman is a genius- her work/exposure ratio is off the charts.

Wow, Crommunist has really been pumping out content lately. It's basically all the FtB splooge, distilled into a fairly concise few posts. Not bad, even if it is mostly in service of stupidity.

FWIW, I enjoyed Sarkeesian's gamer video. You can't deny that the video game industry is extremely male-dominated, and has been since its inception; I don't see anything wrong with deconstructing that, especially since video games have become more mainstream and thus culturally important in the past...

So female feminists can't be flawless ALL the time, and it's bad if you call them out for it, but male feminists must believe in gender equality ALL the time, even if they're dealing with women who are agressive or hostile. Basically, yeah. But seriously, is this shit really anything new? It's all ...

This Harriet Page femsplanation is hilarious. My favorite quote: So while a feminist making a generalisation might hurt your feelings or your pride, and might make you feel maligned and misunderstood, it could NEVER, ever, be the same as sexist generalisations about women. Never forget that the cons...

PZ was a well known member of talk.origins in the 90's. If I recall, he at one point offered to test several of Ed Conrad's (Haversian Canals!) samples, certainly was one of the core group. I dont recall him being either one of the more vehement posters (ex, Pat James) or one of the more knowledgea...

You know, I was sort of wondering, does anyone know how PZ became so prominent in the first place? Was it really just Crackergate? I mean, I was browsing his blog today and I sort of just realized how boring Pharyngula is. He very rarely posts anything of interest, unless you count his Social Justic...

And as a self-proclaimed "ardent feminist since the age of 15", he should have never used the term in the first place... right? It's actually kind of interesting to chart PZ's feminist indoctrination. If you use Wayback Machine to look at Primordial Pharyngula c. 2004 or so, he had this gigantic li...

The most interesting thing about that thread is that, at least for the first 20~ comments (that is, all that I've read so far), it looks like they're having an actual conversation about the topic and not immediately flipping out and calling bigot on the ACLU. The difference is that it's Brayton's b...

Benson mistakes Chris Clarke for PZ:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /#comments

I'm telling you, PZ has access to alien cloning tech.

Yeah, that's the problem with the tone troll argument that the Pharyngulites like to masturbate over- the right to be uncivil only applies to them, or to whoever they judge as worthy, or whatever. And that's completely arbitrary. Look, I agree that charges of incivility can be used to shut down legi...

Okay, but the thing is that PhysioPricke isn't even a good troll. With a few exceptions, his blog isn't particularly inflammatory, it's just dumb.

Peez actually doesn't censor as much as he could. I mean he does, but there are far worse.

I'm going to go ahead and say it is idneed his stances, views and opinions that piss me off.

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