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Altair, I really have to take exception to that long-winded mansplaining post about mansplaining. Sit down, shut up, and LISTEN and LEARN about the important people's issues. Thank you, submariner, may I have another? Maybe after you're tired of beating me you could explain what I'm doing to come a...

There are a couple of comments on Amy's post about White Knights at Skepchick that got me thinking about the mindset of the people who somehow agree or participate with this group (the group being FTB/Skepchick/A+ and similars). Wilson tells about his experience of being called a mansplainer When so...

To put it in starker terms, men being blown to pieces and mentally scarred for life must be judged in terms of the theoretical effect on women. The blindness required to believe that overall theoretical gender privilege trumps actual privilege in a particular circumstance is stunning. This is one o...

That's why I asked them what the difference is between benevolent sexism and gender privilege. Not that I don't think they can't conjure a response (I'm sure they can do that), just that I honestly want to hear it. If what the girl experienced was benevolent sexism and not gender privilege then the...

After complaining that most FEMEN protesters are white (white women, from Ukraine? Has to be racism!), Not that any Muslima has ever asked for FEMEN to defend them using nudity coupled with a blatant malappropriation of their culture. Not that any Muslima ever would. And how does our lily-white Can...

That the woman's nipple is attached to the end of a soft and manipulable part of her body is for men to ogle at, not so the woman can breastfeed easier. Because, you know, not smothering the helpless infant, or having the baby be able to latch on, is small potatoes compared to men's sexual desire t...

Kind of amusing: PZ links to a video on Skepchick demonstrating white privilege: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/04/10/a-vivid-demonstration-of-white-privilege/ But a few days back a more complete version of the video was linked on A Million Gods, during a crapfest I was having with the...

This is an excellent response to Richard Cranium's AACON13 Aâ€ speech http://jbullock.co.uk/blog/response-to-richard-carrier That WAS excellent. that guy has the patience of a saint . How long until he's branded a misogynist? That was my thought as well. He really gave that arrogant twit exactly w...

A commentator on Shakesville looked up the actual abstract of the study and you'll be shocked to discover that it's very different than as reported in that news story and the conclusion is more about body proportionality and was talking about flaccid penises. Chalk it up to more bad/sensationalized...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
cunt wrote:DS9 > TNG > TOS > Voyager > Enterprise
Cersei Lannister > Margaery Tyrell >= Daeny Targaryen > Ygritte > Hordor
Star Treck sucks! live with it.

(the reboot was okay)

http://bit.ly/ZfOpKm

PHIIIIIIIILLLLLLL!

This is so much awesome http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/2013/04/10/size-matters-i-told-you/ "As a woman, I can tell you, large penises are very attractive. If a woman is not shy, and you can earn her trust, she will tell you the truth. She will tell you that she just loves large penises. I talk...

Props to Stephanie Zvan for retweeting a link to this article: http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-and-politics/details/2013-04-why-feminists-should-stop-saying-misandry-doesnt-exi It's refreshing to see a balanced article on this. As someone that believes men and women should be treated equally and ...

That's weird. Images are disappearing all over the place for me. is anybody else getting that? Peri's just disappeared for me. Bollocks. It doesn't matter. People will just google "Doctor Who Peri" and see some of the best images ever. You even got the exact search terms I used. Call Randi and ask ...

Two things about this tweet: hashtag.PNG 1. Hashtag fight FTW! I'm actually a little dissapointed that the use of both hashtags in the same tweet didn't cause the universe to explode or something. 2. In what universe do these people live? They have created an alternative reality in their heads where...

Is there this much butthurt and flouncing over "gendered" words for radfem speakers of languages that have nouns with gender? Or is this one of the great joys of the Anglophone world? "My native language doesn't have gendered nouns, so I'm going to randomly assign gender to verbs and nouns in order...

Apparently Ana Mardoll's "lived experience" trumps objective reality. What a narcissist. I used to read her blog a while ago. She writes deconstructions and analysis of books, which I found very interesting. She wrote a lot about Twilight and the Chronicles of Narnia, and I enjoyed reading her idea...

Adam Lee asks a question on twitter lee.PNG So he thinks at least some slYmepitters would be mad about the open letter. Probably because pitters love abuse and harassment and whatnot. But from what I've read, people here (and on twitter and other blogs, let's remember you don't need to post here to ...

JAB wrote:Just a note to say how sad I am tonight. My feathered friend that serves as my avatar died in my hand tonight.

I'm sorry to hear that, JAB. My thoughts are with you.

sacha wrote:
Slymepit fundraiser for Muttville Senior Dog Rescue

any amount will make a difference. please help them

Just donated. Wonderful cause, Sacha. Now I just hope I can get to the thread's last page sometime this year.

Skeeve wrote:
Guest wrote:oops: http://bit.ly/YleLzY

Bah, not big enough for avatar use. :(

Disruptive Pitmage has a nice ring to it

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Im ... &type=card

Pharyngula's Cerberus is taking lack of reading comprehension and projection to a whole new level. Golliblog makes this reasonable and calm comment Before the PYCON Code of Conduct was amended it said: â€œHarassment includes offensive verbal comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability...

Dislike linking to HuffPo but here's a nice post about why women don't go into STEM careers. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/women-stem-math-science-skills-career_n_2923388.html That's an interesting article, although the comments surprised me. I thought they were going to grab the "more w...

Oh, and thank you for the links, I forgot to say that in the previous post.

AndrewV69 wrote:Before I forget, was this the video?

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Yes, exactly that one. Someone posted it on one of the facebook groups I belong to. Maybe with the judge talking about the misuse of the law being female, people will listen.

(this reminds me about Spain and what happens when you give Spanish women incentives without repercussions. There is talk about hauling Government Ministers to stand trial in the Hague now. Dunno how that is going to work out though.) Hi, Andrew. I was watching a video about the Spain situation, an...

Irony meters everywhere go boom 558 kate_waters 22 March 2013 at 6:47 pm (UTC -5) Stacy: Since youâ€™re busy trying to clean up after EllenBeth, would you care to wipe up the other shit sheâ€™s flung around here? Because if YOU GO READ THE FUCKING THREAD youâ€™ll see sheâ€™s flung it around, stepped...

Bravo to EllenBeth for saying, "We have set ourselves up for a situation in which a woman could never be blamed for actually doing wrong. I don't accept that." I'm still a few pages behind, but I want to state for the record that EllenBeth is doing the right thing at PZ's even when faced with the t...

Bravo to EllenBeth for saying, "We have set ourselves up for a situation in which a woman could never be blamed for actually doing wrong. I don't accept that." I'm still a few pages behind, but I want to state for the record that EllenBeth is doing the right thing at PZ's even when faced with the t...

It is far easier to move forward when everyone is working together. She and I both think that if we stop treating rape as some exclusionary "women only" issue, and start taking it seriously for everyone because it affects everyone, then maybe things stand a better chance of improvement. Do I think ...

apropos of nothing, my part of an IM convo where I was able, finally, to properly articulate why only focusing on women as rape/sexual assault victims is bad, because my friend was about to be rather upset as it was almost coming out as WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ, and I really didn't want her to think it ...

A big round of applause to Submariner, Arya and Rayshul for their comments on McEwan's list of commandments. That was awesome!

codelette wrote:
Your lack of concern is noted.

Dongle.
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Good article, except the tech industry is not 'rampantly sexist' by really any means. The trolls/neckbeards you often hear about are never considered true professionals and typically don't interact as much (if at all) with most other developers, especially within cross-company organizations. I agre...

PZ trying to hard: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/21/a-reminder/comment-page-1/#comment-584364 "I know. Iâ€™m an old white privileged dude. I donâ€™t expect to be trusted, and thatâ€™s OK. I just have limits to how much I can bend, and youâ€™re going to have to recognize that." Witc...

Slowly reading through the Nugent threads. Someone brought up the "don't rape" campaign in Vancouver lowering sexual assaults, but wasn't it also used in another place where it didn't seem to have that affect (sexual assaults went up)? Or was there something funny about the stats due to "sexual ass...

One thing on the Adria Richards thing. Regardless of why, the volume of trolling/hate/whatever you wish to call it she's gotten over this has effectively killed any chance of rational discussion. Can she even think of admitting the twitter crap was a bad idea and apologizing? Ideally yes, but no. B...

There are so many tweets out there that gain a fascinating new dimension after that SendGrid post Adria Richards â€@adriarichards 21h Hey @mundanematt, it's clear from the last 24 hours you're a bully. @SendGrid supports me. Stop trolling. Details benmarks benmarks â€@benmarks 17h @adriarichards I...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3895/sendgrid.png Wow, I have prophetic powers! Someone tell Randi and get me my $1 million! I wrote earlier: Ironically, I think she may have done as much damage to herself as to the men she attacked. No one will want to hire someone like that. She completely fails...

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It seems Sendgrid is suffering from a DDOS attack. Twitter chatter is suggesting they have earned the wrath of Anonymous . This could run and run. And as always, it's the fault of those pesky males http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack-after-its-developer-evangelist-complains...

How long until Jack Frost gets kicked out of the A+ forum? That's a fair question, if you have to wait until the other person asks you for it, then the other person should also wait until YOU ask for it. Sounds like a catch 22. He already "got a week off" on page 2. You got my respect, Sir, I could...

In other news, I just read through this: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4270 and just, holy shit, how does ceepolk even manage to get out of bed? "I want you to wait to have sex until the person you're with asks you for it. Tells you they need you now, and that they can't wait, a...

Ericb wrote:Those card are meant to be serious? I honestly thought they were supposed to be a joke.

This woman appears to be the cards' creator: http://singlevoice.net/redyellow-card-project/, and she seems to take it very seriously, and so do other of her commenters :violin:

Creeper cards - coming to a conference near you! http://p.twimg.com/Ay5-_BXCIAEuOUP.jpg I love the red one. Honestly, I do. It's like, hey, you're lucky you weren't punched in the face, next time you might not be so lucky! The thing is, since it doesn't actually state anything you might have done w...

AnonymousCowherd wrote:Creeper cards - coming to a conference near you!

http://p.twimg.com/Ay5-_BXCIAEuOUP.jpg

The part about the punch on the face could be considered a threat. If only conferences had some sort of policy to deal with that kind of thing :shifty:

It gets tiring to have women call for equal treatment and empowerment while at the same time claiming they are delicate little flowers that can't withstand anything. This speaks badly of me, and makes me actually ashamed, but, FSM, sometimes I understand misogynists. If it wasn't for the sane women...

I would say she's overplaying her hand, but the radfems gobble this shit up. Every time it looks patently ridiculous, you get them all swarming in and yelling "JOAN! JOAN! JOAN! JOAN!" There seem to be plenty of supportive comments on twitter. Most of the opposing comments seem to come from men, wh...

Continuing on reading, but I'm saving this comment here, because it expresses a few things I want touch on later. Consider this just a copy/paste. Would be interested in people's takes on it, too. 163 Dan L. March 19, 2013 at 7:45 pm Discussions have two sides. One person has to question it and the...

Is AppleStairs over at Nugent's the same Apples from the Pit? I really like this comment by xem (146). AppleStairs March 20, 2013 at 9:58 pm doubthat@137 What replaced Christianity in Soviet Russia was not Enlightenment philosophy and scientific knowledge, which is what fills the void here. It was a...

I'm bored at work so I was checking the A+ reddit and found a link to a post by Dana Hunter on FTB. http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2013/03/18/sexist-is-something-you-do-not-necessarily-who-you-are/ http://www.freezepage.com/1363806358RUCWSNCDMC "En Tequila Es Verdad" is a blog to whic...

I've read some of finallyfeminism101 and I was shocked. This is what they promote? This pile of horrendous trash? This is what they want to educate people with? I even tried commenting on a couple of feminist themed sites that were "welcoming" to men. (e.g. NSWATM) I got tired of 20 year old girls ...

WOO-FUCKING-HOO! My guy doesn't have to do chemo :D It looks like radiation should be enough and they actually believe they *may* have gotten it all with the operation he had 2 months back. Still, the radiation is a precautionary thing and, to be honest, way better than what would happen with a com...

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Apples wrote:Haven't listened to it yet, but Rebecca just retweeted Amanda Marcotte's promotion of her appearance on a CFI podcast with Chris Mooney -- ~~"Skepticism Needs Feminism"~~ "Feminism Needs Skepticism"

http://www.pointofinquiry.org/amanda_ma ... _feminism/

Fixed that for her.

No, Adam is right. We have to up our game. Compared to being united with loved ones and spending all of eternity in ecstasy and bliss in the company of the creator of the universe, we ought to offering plain AND milk chocolate digestive biscuits with a nice cup of lapsang souchong. Then we'll be cr...

If we could offer religious women a better alternative â€“ if we could invite them into a secular community where theyâ€™d be treated as equals, where thereâ€™d be no more of the hateful prejudice and the blatant double standards theyâ€™ve so often been subjected to â€“ then theyâ€™d have every rea...

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4683/54264345.png Hol-ee shee-yit...did PZ Myers just commit a "What about teh menz"!? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! I can't decide if Peezus not wanting to throw his own offspring under the RadFem bus makes him more human or more contemptible. In my opinion, ...

PZ, it's full on patriarchy in the parenting world. Yeah...in between those Mommy and Me classes and so called parenting magazines that discuss makeup and shoes. The patriarchy is in full force when I go online where I check out Motherlode and Momformation. Then I go shopping and Busy Moms chose Ji...

Here's Peezee giving his take on Teh Patriarchy: PZ Myers 27 November 2012 at 7:47 am (UTC -5) Are you denying that we live in a patriarchal system, where women are second class citizens and men reap the benefits? If you are, you have a set of blinders on that you need to remove. Wake up. Also, bei...

The thing about the term "rape culture" is that whereas it commonsensically implies a blasÃ© attitude about rape, this is so obviously not prevalent that it tends to be immediately re-defined mid-sentence to comprise more widely-held attitudes. One aspect of "rape culture" would be victim-blaming, ...

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