Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:LMU wrote:Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Did I really have to read all that shit? ?No, I guess I didn't.
Stop harassing Phil you francophobes!
JT Eberhard wrote:The harassers of women, the slymepitters, are bad people.
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Wait a second! Wasn't it Myers who got his panties in a bunch because some guest blogger at Patheos was "dehumanizing" a dead jihadist by comparing him to a decease?
And in your exemple he doesn't pip out a single word of condemnation?
Fuck that crowd!
Jeff Dee wrote:Hi everyone. Yes, I'm 'that' Jeff Dee, former Atheist Experience host and co-host, current host of the Non-Prophets audio podcast from the Atheist Community of Austin.
I've been defending A+ for so long, in email and on facebook, I figured it was high time to sign up.
I probably won't be very active; I'm just too busy. Thanks for having me.
Sunday, July 01, 2012
Sexual Harassment Amongst the Unbelievers
There is a kerfuffle going on in the Atheist community. I've been pretty silent about it, but somebody asked me my opinion so I wrote the following response, which I would like to share. Non-atheists will find nothing of interest here; move along, you folks have your own problems ;-)
Okay. So just to be clear, the kerfuffle I'm talking about is the ongoing flame-fest over the issue of sexual harassment policies at Atheist conventions. So here's what I think.
I think what we're seeing is the consequence of trying to form a community out of a bunch of people who have abandoned our culture's default (Christian) rules of behavior. I'm not saying it was a mistake, I'm saying we all ought to face up to the fact that we have some work to do.
Some who've dumped Christianity feel that in the absence of its archaic sexual taboos, we should now all be free and open about our sexual impulses. Others who've dumped Christianity feel that in the absence of its patriarchal biases, we should now finally respect the absolute equal rights of women and have zero tolerance for unsolicited sexual advances.
I don't think the problem is that one side or the other is wrong. I think they're both mostly right. The problem, in my view, is that we lack a clear new cultural standard for behavior that accommodates both of these views by adopting reasonable limits to enable them to co-exist. Both sides are being a bit shrill and defensive, and that's entirely understandable, because both are fighting to make sure that the new emerging standards of behavior place as few limits on their side of the dispute as possible.
So while it can be unpleasant to listen to this infighting, I think we need to accept it as inevitable. I also think it could be healthy in the long run. Because if we never work through these differences then we won't be one community, we'll be two.
posted by Jeff Dee @ 7:03 PM 21 comments
UnEasyOne wrote:I'm new to the pit and haven't figured out how to navigate the site yet, or had time to read all the threads, so I hope I can be forgiven for asking a few questions.
I have encountered feminist lies before, so I apologize in advance for a question that may be considered insulting, but here goes: Are threats of violence actually tolerated here?
Can I start my own thread, or is there a place that explains such basic facts for me?
I guess that's all for now. Thanks
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