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Kim Rippere and Elsa Roberts have left a fresh and stinky turd on the Secular Woman website for Lindsay and the rest of the secular community. From the closing paragraph:
http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
(I just got myself some edumacation by reading their link to the wiki entry on microaggression: I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
That's right, folks - feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are off the table for discussion -- bringing them up for dialogue or debate is a microaggression. :think:Rippere/Roberts wrote:Feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are all concepts that are readily available to research via the internet. The seemingly perpetual need within the secular community to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is a microaggression. The assumption that it is a feminist’s role and responsibility to educate, educate, educate the oppressor is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated.
http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
(I just got myself some edumacation by reading their link to the wiki entry on microaggression: I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
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I too like my coffee like I like my women: Tied up in a sack and thrown on the back of a donkey by Juan Valdez.Lsuoma wrote:I like my coffee like I like my women: roasted, ground and boiled.zenbabe wrote: "Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love"
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Also, I like the passive-aggressive ploy: It's not up to me to make my case and defend my position, it's YOUR responsibility to do research until you agree with me.Apples wrote:Kim Rippere and Elsa Roberts have left a fresh and stinky turd on the Secular Woman website for Lindsay and the rest of the secular community. From the closing paragraph:
That's right, folks - feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are off the table for discussion -- bringing them up for dialogue or debate is a microaggression. :think:Rippere/Roberts wrote:Feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are all concepts that are readily available to research via the internet. The seemingly perpetual need within the secular community to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is a microaggression. The assumption that it is a feminist’s role and responsibility to educate, educate, educate the oppressor is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated.
http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
(I just got myself some edumacation by reading their link to the wiki entry on microaggression: I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
A big honk from the clown car.
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I know. Back then, I even used to have her pre-FtB Butterflies & Wheels listed in my blogroll. The change in her, and the massive degradation of quality (and subjects) of her writing, has actually been depressing to watch for me. She's gone from a reasonably talented writer with interesting things to say to a self-obsessed and paranoid old lady who peers from a crack in her blinds, sure that those dratted neighbor kids are going to toilet-paper the trees in her front yard at any second.jjbinx007 wrote:It's strange to see stuff written by Ophie that's more than a couple of years old. She's so very different to how she was then.
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Are you really sure that "learned" is the correct word for what you have experienced? Please consider that you may have been microbullshitted.Apples wrote:I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
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Ophelia wrote:
My familiarity with the skeptics/freethought community is fairly recent and limited to the online segment, and I've no intention of reading any of Benson's co-authored books, so I'm lacking any positive associations. "Attention whore" seems a pretty accurate description for her at the moment.
Translation: "i would have quoted from something important for a change, and even though I don't have to work for a living, my precious time is limited and I really need to document this egregiously offensive and rape-threatening We heart Justin photoshop that I found while scouring the internetz. Also I want to post another photo with my face in it because I'm vain and that new blogger Yemmy does it."On it goes. I did have plans to talk about now for something completely different today, that is, to talk about a lot of things that have nothing to do with local harassment, but – it keeps rolling in and some of it needs documenting.
My familiarity with the skeptics/freethought community is fairly recent and limited to the online segment, and I've no intention of reading any of Benson's co-authored books, so I'm lacking any positive associations. "Attention whore" seems a pretty accurate description for her at the moment.
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Yup. They want their overly simplistic, sexist ideology to be the "default" for intellectual discussion. One word to say to that.Apples wrote:Kim Rippere and Elsa Roberts have left a fresh and stinky turd on the Secular Woman website for Lindsay and the rest of the secular community. From the closing paragraph:
That's right, folks - feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are off the table for discussion -- bringing them up for dialogue or debate is a microaggression. :think:Rippere/Roberts wrote:Feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are all concepts that are readily available to research via the internet. The seemingly perpetual need within the secular community to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is a microaggression. The assumption that it is a feminist’s role and responsibility to educate, educate, educate the oppressor is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated.
http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
(I just got myself some edumacation by reading their link to the wiki entry on microaggression: I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupe
Their ideology and models have more holes than swiss cheese. And they're not in all the least bit interested in plugging up those holes. It's also why as gender egalitarianism gains more of a social and intellectual foothold, feminism as a movement will be relegated to the sexists.
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Her review is more sizzle than steak, it seems to me.AndrewV69 wrote:Sarah Hoyt rips somebody a new one:
http://accordingtohoyt.com/2013/05/25/raping-history/(She no like Dan Brown methinks)Which means, at the end, I am entitled to sneer at them. A writer can sneer at whores. More importantly, someone who rapes history in order to conceive a bastard is entitled to sneer at someone who has snuff sex with history and leaves her bleeding corpse in an alley, entrails ripped out, unable to conceive ever again.
And that’s what I’m doing.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the thesis of Holy Blood Holy Grail is nonsense; but that's mostly because I seem to recall the authors admitting it at some point. As far as proving it's nonsense using historical evidence, all Hoyt really seems interested in doing is presenting a snooty argument from incredulity over and over and over, as in: "How can anybody be so stupid as to believe that? It makes no sense!" Not much beyond that though.
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It seems that she (and the rest of FtB) are intent on making Justin the representative Satan of all those they consider their enemy. Which is fine by me; whatever Justin's faults, he's about as harmless and mild-mannered as they come. If that's who Peezus and Co. want as their bogeyman, it just shows how completely disproportionate and out of touch with reality they have become.Lsuoma wrote:What the fuck is her problem with Vacula mentioning her? For each time he mentions her, he mentions himself a hundred times! Jeez, FeeFee, have a sense of proportion!Aneris wrote:Aunt Ophelia is the Lord Voldemort of the community. Her name shall not be named. It doesn't stop her from mentioning other people, who named her first, who named her after being named, which was after... whatever.
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One imagines Phelps-Roper probably has a better porn collection, anyway.Gefan wrote:In all seriousness, I wouldn't spend much time trying to figure out Marcotte. I've tried and I wound up needing to take a hot shower.Guest wrote: ...That said, when I read things like Marcotte's latest I scratch my head a bit too. I've never experienced street 'harassment' either. I've had some random drunks say some stupid things sometimes but that's not harassment or threatening, that's drunks being dumb and they call shit out to guys as well from what I've seen. And someone saying 'hello' I take as a simple greeting, not an invitation for rape. Humans will communicate with other humans... funny that.
Peezus can largely be explained by "horsemen envy", Becky by desire to avoid actual work, Ophie, at this point, appears to be spiraling into actual paranoid dementia.
Marcotte just seems to be pure hatred.
I would genuinely prefer to spend time with Shirley Phelps-Roper than with Amanda Marcotte.
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Cunt of Personality wrote:Are you really sure that "learned" is the correct word for what you have experienced? Please consider that you may have been microbullshitted.Apples wrote:I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
"Micro-bullshitted". That's my new favorite word.
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It's getting beyond sad.BarnOwl wrote:Ophelia wrote:
Translation: "i would have quoted from something important for a change, and even though I don't have to work for a living, my precious time is limited and I really need to document this egregiously offensive and rape-threatening We heart Justin photoshop that I found while scouring the internetz. Also I want to post another photo with my face in it because I'm vain and that new blogger Yemmy does it."On it goes. I did have plans to talk about now for something completely different today, that is, to talk about a lot of things that have nothing to do with local harassment, but – it keeps rolling in and some of it needs documenting.
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Because as we all know, discussion, dialogue and debate are anathema to a healthy secular community.Apples wrote:Kim Rippere and Elsa Roberts have left a fresh and stinky turd on the Secular Woman website for Lindsay and the rest of the secular community. From the closing paragraph:
Rippere/Roberts wrote:Feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are all concepts that are readily available to research via the internet. The seemingly perpetual need within the secular community to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is a microaggression. The assumption that it is a feminist’s role and responsibility to educate, educate, educate the oppressor is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated.
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bovarchist wrote:I too like my coffee like I like my women: Tied up in a sack and thrown on the back of a donkey by Juan Valdez.Lsuoma wrote:I like my coffee like I like my women: roasted, ground and boiled.zenbabe wrote: "Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love"
Wouldn't you know it, but I like my coffee the same as I like my women.......cold and bitter.
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Allison Pearson is the one who ran afoul of Doug Stanhope last year, after her cruel remarks regarding a paralyzed man who wanted to commit suicide.sacha wrote:"Politically Correct" SJWs are directly responsible for "rape culture". (of course this is nothing new)
Dawkins truly is a master at manipulation of those SJWs who attempt to vilify him. they don't even realise they are being played. multiple levels of irony with this move.
It's just beautiful to watch.
http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/201 ... rkeys.html
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If it's truly dementia and/or mental illness, then yes, it is sad. However, her FtB colleagues and her fans aren't doing her any favors in that case - they just make it worse and encourage her sense of paranoia and victimization. The people who interact with her at meetings should have a better sense of her mental status than can be garnered by online impressions from her blog posts (which are also entirely consistent with deliberate up-whipping of drama).Gumby wrote: It's getting beyond sad.
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Given Peezus's oft-repeated assertions that teachers are underpaid and not put on high-enough pedestals to be appropriately worshiped, coupled with his propensity for ditching values he should have by default in favor of airy-fairy concepts that appeal to his emotions, this does not surprise me at all.lost control wrote:http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... te-affair/Jerry Coyne wrote:None of this controversy bothers me a whit. What does bother me is that fellow anti-creationists P. Z. Myers and Larry Moran have, while decrying the class, defended Hedin’s way to teach it as he does, arguing that it’s a professor’s right to teach exactly what he wants to, even if that involves the lies of creationism and ID.
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I was a frequent reader of her pre-FTB site.Gumby wrote:I know. Back then, I even used to have her pre-FtB Butterflies & Wheels listed in my blogroll. The change in her, and the massive degradation of quality (and subjects) of her writing, has actually been depressing to watch for me. She's gone from a reasonably talented writer with interesting things to say to a self-obsessed and paranoid old lady who peers from a crack in her blinds, sure that those dratted neighbor kids are going to toilet-paper the trees in her front yard at any second.jjbinx007 wrote:It's strange to see stuff written by Ophie that's more than a couple of years old. She's so very different to how she was then.
She was an OK writer, and covered topic of which I had an interest, such as religion and freedom of speech (I know!), but the main reason for reading it was the fact that there was a good mix of thoughtful commenters who added to the conversation. Now that group is almost all moved to better pastures (- quite a lot of us are here!)
Ophelia herself has turned inward and seems bitter towards those who have left. At the same time her paranoia is constantly fueled by her current commenters who try to curry favor by playing on her fears. She is like a bunny, sitting in the forest, imagining that every twig is a snake ready to pounce, all the while her 'friends' are saying "Watch out Ophelia, it's a snake!". The best example of this is the notorious not-threat that caused her to drop out of TAM last year and hide in an underground nuclear bunker for a month (I presume). None of her sycophantic commenters had the gall to say "WTF!, This was the "threat?".
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I assume you've seen the A+ forum. A case could be made that there are a lot of people there who could benefit from therapy, but instead of getting help they immerse themselves in shit that does nothing but exacerbate their problems. And their fellow forum members do nothing but enable them. I've seen it in Christian forums as well - a deeply devout believer acts more and more erratic and unbalanced, and the "cure" suggested by the others amounts to little more than "You'll be fine, you just need more Jesus in your life!"BarnOwl wrote:If it's truly dementia and/or mental illness, then yes, it is sad. However, her FtB colleagues and her fans aren't doing her any favors in that case - they just make it worse and encourage her sense of paranoia and victimization. The people who interact with her at meetings should have a better sense of her mental status than can be garnered by online impressions from her blog posts (which are also entirely consistent with deliberate up-whipping of drama).Gumby wrote: It's getting beyond sad.
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http://www.vanden-eykel.com/obeyme.jpgGumby wrote:
It seems that she (and the rest of FtB) are intent on making Justin the representative Satan of all those they consider their enemy. Which is fine by me; whatever Justin's faults, he's about as harmless and mild-mannered as they come. If that's who Peezus and Co. want as their bogeyman, it just shows how completely disproportionate and out of touch with reality they have become.
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It had been so long since I'd ventured over there that I had actually forgotten how bad it was. This topic got my curiousity up enough to follow the link. What I got was a hard lesson in just how deep that dysfunctional rabbit hole can go, and they are likely not at the bottom yet. Benson's response and her example of what constitutes 'harassment' are so far over the edge that it is hard to believe she is faking it for the hits. The commentariat it at least as far gone and energetically feeding a downward tailspin of what can only be described as some form of mental illness and/or a deepening paranoia.Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/CIHhteN.jpgKareem wrote:That's nothing, read her response to the request.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ophelia's page o' paranoia has generated real-life consequences:
http://i.imgur.com/sq11q6Z.jpg
Ophelia is pushing any chance of reconciliation out of the window.
Just look at the other post she did yesterday where she targets Damion and calls him a liar and a fraud.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /05/cheap/
Damion had taken issue with one of her previous posts and written an interpretation of it.
He'd posted:
Which caused her to boil over in rage.Her argument seems to be something like this:
Skeptics assent unquestioningly to moral propositions of the form “You must not [commit atrocities against humans]†without stopping to ask for further evidence.
Checkmate, skeptics!
I may have missed out a step there, but that seems to pretty much cover it. My answer to this is twofold.
Apparently his interpretation was completely wrong - therefore he's a liar and a fraud!
But if he interpreted it different to the way she meant it then how is he a liar and a fraud?
Wouldn't that take an intentional act of stating something he knew to be incorrect?
In this case he stated that he was writing his interpretation of what she was writing, that he was condensing and paraphrasing her argument, and even provided a link to the original piece so that readers could compare what he said to what Ophelia wrote.
The funniest thing is that Ophelia writes a reply to Improbable Joe (who has written a braindead comment accusing her opponents of being psychopaths!) in which she ends with:
Most of my point was just that official, “movement†skeptics talk a lot of self-flattering bullshit about questioning everything, and that itself is quite stupidly unskeptical.
...which is pretty much exactly Damions point :doh:
I wonder if people like Lindsay have ever followed a thread like that and what they would make of it. :shock:
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Yes, I remember the comment sections as well. They were so... reasonable.Dick Strawkins wrote: I was a frequent reader of her pre-FTB site.
She was an OK writer, and covered topic of which I had an interest, such as religion and freedom of speech (I know!), but the main reason for reading it was the fact that there was a good mix of thoughtful commenters who added to the conversation. Now that group is almost all moved to better pastures (- quite a lot of us are here!)
Ophelia herself has turned inward and seems bitter towards those who have left. At the same time her paranoia is constantly fueled by her current commenters who try to curry favor by playing on her fears. She is like a bunny, sitting in the forest, imagining that every twig is a snake ready to pounce, all the while her 'friends' are saying "Watch out Ophelia, it's a snake!". The best example of this is the notorious not-threat that caused her to drop out of TAM last year and hide in an underground nuclear bunker for a month (I presume). None of her sycophantic commenters had the gall to say "WTF!, This was the "threat?".
And Ophelia has indeed turned inward and become bitter towards those who are no longer there. I remember her whining about how many friends she's lost, with absolutely no introspection as to possible reasons they may have vamoosed. These people she regarded as traitors who turned to the dark side, nothing more.
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Well, I've actually seen footage of Phelps-Roper having smiling, human interaction with "out-group" members. Anyone want to imagine Marcotte doing that?Dick Strawkins wrote:Gefan wrote:Guest wrote:
I would genuinely prefer to spend time with Shirley Phelps-Roper than with Amanda Marcotte.
Thats a bit much. :snooty:
Seriously, are you really comparing a woman who brings her groups of haters to situations where people are facing complicated and stressful events, and proceeds to sneer and at them? Someone who has no compunction in saying the most nasty things to innocent people and condemn them simply on the basis of a fixed, unchanging and profoundly sexist ideology?
You want to compare this person...
...with Shirley Phelps Roper?
:rimshot:
Seriously though, I think the easiest way to think of Marcotte is as a left wing Ann Coulter. I don't think she believes in half the shit she says, she does it to rile up her idiot followers and to inspire outrage from her detracters.
The Coulter comparison is somewhat plausible but how far do you have to sink to get to the point where someone, in an attempt to be charitable, theorizes that you're the equivalent of Ann Coulter just not as good at it?
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I figured it referred to sex with The Amazing Atheist.Apples wrote:...I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
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Really? She was an ok writer? There's no way anyone could know that based on her latest stuff.Dick Strawkins wrote:I was a frequent reader of her pre-FTB site.Gumby wrote:I know. Back then, I even used to have her pre-FtB Butterflies & Wheels listed in my blogroll. The change in her, and the massive degradation of quality (and subjects) of her writing, has actually been depressing to watch for me. She's gone from a reasonably talented writer with interesting things to say to a self-obsessed and paranoid old lady who peers from a crack in her blinds, sure that those dratted neighbor kids are going to toilet-paper the trees in her front yard at any second.jjbinx007 wrote:It's strange to see stuff written by Ophie that's more than a couple of years old. She's so very different to how she was then.
She was an OK writer, and covered topic of which I had an interest, such as religion and freedom of speech (I know!), but the main reason for reading it was the fact that there was a good mix of thoughtful commenters who added to the conversation. Now that group is almost all moved to better pastures (- quite a lot of us are here!)
Ophelia herself has turned inward and seems bitter towards those who have left. At the same time her paranoia is constantly fueled by her current commenters who try to curry favor by playing on her fears. She is like a bunny, sitting in the forest, imagining that every twig is a snake ready to pounce, all the while her 'friends' are saying "Watch out Ophelia, it's a snake!". The best example of this is the notorious not-threat that caused her to drop out of TAM last year and hide in an underground nuclear bunker for a month (I presume). None of her sycophantic commenters had the gall to say "WTF!, This was the "threat?".
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a sociological definition of racism is not even mentioned in the Oxford, Websters, Cambridge, or Dictionary.comTigzy wrote:Re: Dawkins/Miri's blog
So the SJWs are going by a strict sociological definition of 'racism'. Well fuck me, but as if that counts as anything. Any so-called discipline which is as vulnerable to an ideology as sociology is about as useful a genuine measure of society as quantum woo is to science. From wiki:
SJW morons realised that the dictionary definition of racism did not support their claim (after Dawkins told them to look it up)
so they quickly moved the goalpost:
did they think that Dawkins would be too stupid to notice? unbelievable.
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One of my favorite stand up lines ever: "I like my coffee like my women: dark and bitter."bovarchist wrote:I too like my coffee like I like my women: Tied up in a sack and thrown on the back of a donkey by Juan Valdez.Lsuoma wrote:I like my coffee like I like my women: roasted, ground and boiled.zenbabe wrote: "Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and sweet as love"
Sadly, I've long since forgotten the comedian.
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Would that include telling a man he has a small dick and nobody will ever love him?Apples wrote:...I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
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:rimshot:Gefan wrote:I figured it referred to sex with The Amazing Atheist.Apples wrote:...I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
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If that's the case that she is suffering from real mental illness, then conventional wisdom dictates she will not seek help until she hits bottom.Gumby wrote:Yes, I remember the comment sections as well. They were so... reasonable.Dick Strawkins wrote: I was a frequent reader of her pre-FTB site.
She was an OK writer, and covered topic of which I had an interest, such as religion and freedom of speech (I know!), but the main reason for reading it was the fact that there was a good mix of thoughtful commenters who added to the conversation. Now that group is almost all moved to better pastures (- quite a lot of us are here!)
Ophelia herself has turned inward and seems bitter towards those who have left. At the same time her paranoia is constantly fueled by her current commenters who try to curry favor by playing on her fears. She is like a bunny, sitting in the forest, imagining that every twig is a snake ready to pounce, all the while her 'friends' are saying "Watch out Ophelia, it's a snake!". The best example of this is the notorious not-threat that caused her to drop out of TAM last year and hide in an underground nuclear bunker for a month (I presume). None of her sycophantic commenters had the gall to say "WTF!, This was the "threat?".
And Ophelia has indeed turned inward and become bitter towards those who are no longer there. I remember her whining about how many friends she's lost, with absolutely no introspection as to possible reasons they may have vamoosed. These people she regarded as traitors who turned to the dark side, nothing more.
Which may explain my altruistic urge to help her there any way I can.
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It's all subjective opinion, of course, but if you go to her original B&W site and peruse the archives a few years back, it's apparent (at least to me) that her writing and subject matter were much better and more interesting back then than today.FrankGrimes wrote: Really? She was an ok writer? There's no way anyone could know that based on her latest stuff.
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/
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:lol:Cunt of Personality wrote:Are you really sure that "learned" is the correct word for what you have experienced? Please consider that you may have been microbullshitted.Apples wrote:I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
I do believe CoP has it completely surrounded!
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Exactly. Howard Hughes began making airplanes and okay B movies. Eventually he ended up watching Ice Station Zebra on a loop and peeing in mason jars.Gumby wrote:It's all subjective opinion, of course, but if you go to her original B&W site and peruse the archives a few years back, it's apparent (at least to me) that her writing and subject matter were much better and more interesting back then than today.FrankGrimes wrote: Really? She was an ok writer? There's no way anyone could know that based on her latest stuff.
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/
Ophelia seems to be well on the same trajectory.
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hahahah!rayshul wrote:it's hard to call someone a fucking cunt fuck when they're being lovely...
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http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... c234d1.pngMykeru wrote: If that's the case that she is suffering from real mental illness, then conventional wisdom dictates she will not seek help until she hits bottom.
Which may explain my altruistic urge to help her there any way I can.
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I could be described as mildly paranoid, in the context of the internet, and no way in hell would I post multiple photographs of myself on a moderately trafficked blog network. I don't have Twitter or Facebook accounts either.
Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat? :mrgreen:
Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat? :mrgreen:
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Sometimes it's paranoia.BarnOwl wrote:I could be described as mildly paranoid, in the context of the internet, and no way in hell would I post multiple photographs of myself on a moderately trafficked blog network. I don't have Twitter or Facebook accounts either.
Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat? :mrgreen:
Sometimes, there really are armies of secret agents disguised as telephone poles watching you wherever you go.
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BarnOwl wrote:Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat? :mrgreen:
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it's emotional blackmail - manipulative - it's difficult for most people to criticise a woman who is crying.rayshul wrote:Please tell me the crying attendees weren't women. Oh gosh. I fucking could not take it. There's a point at which I am fucking over being female.Dick Strawkins wrote:Basically what has been added is that she gives more explanation for her silly "I once broke my ankle so I know what it's like to be disabled" story, and, importantly, she dumps all the blame on Ron Lindsay, for creating a climate in which she was flustered from crying attendees (in tears because of his speech!) and so temporarily unable to held the disabled people.
Good fucking grief. Harden the fuck up.
When some chick starts the tears-of-manipulation, my reaction is to become callous and cruel. I have an uncontrollable urge to give them something to cry about. not only because I know they are using it as a get out of jail free card, but also because it makes all women look calculating, vindictive, fragile, and weak. it also perpetuates the image of women as irrationally emotional, excessively manipulative, and ultimately cowards.
the SJWs do everything they can to stop women from being seen as equals.
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There wouldn't be an open source diagram for making tinfoil hats available on the interwebz, if there weren't a legitimate pressing need for them, right?Lost Moose wrote:BarnOwl wrote:Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat? :mrgreen:
Can we have an Eye of Sauron smilie, or an Illuminati/DARPA eye-on-top-of-a-pyramid, Lsuoma? Pretty please?
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That shows self-awareness - people often say that about you.BarnOwl wrote:I could be described as mildly paranoid...
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This is exactly my complaint regarding what is being foisted as 'feminism' by the FftB crowd and their various associates. They actually promote a Victorian sense of oh-so-tender-helpless-and-delicate femininity that pushes modern western femininity backwards at least a full century. No thank you. I really like modern, independent, free-thinking and strong women - just like we have in the Pyt.sacha wrote:it's emotional blackmail - manipulative - it's difficult for most people to criticise a woman who is crying.rayshul wrote:Please tell me the crying attendees weren't women. Oh gosh. I fucking could not take it. There's a point at which I am fucking over being female.Dick Strawkins wrote:Basically what has been added is that she gives more explanation for her silly "I once broke my ankle so I know what it's like to be disabled" story, and, importantly, she dumps all the blame on Ron Lindsay, for creating a climate in which she was flustered from crying attendees (in tears because of his speech!) and so temporarily unable to held the disabled people.
Good fucking grief. Harden the fuck up.
When some chick starts the tears-of-manipulation, my reaction is to become callous and cruel. I have an uncontrollable urge to give them something to cry about. not only because I know they are using it as a get out of jail free card, but also because it makes all women look calculating, vindictive, fragile, and weak. it also perpetuates the image of women as irrationally emotional, excessively manipulative, and ultimately cowards.
the SJWs do everything they can to stop women from being seen as equals.
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I know, right?Gumby wrote:http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... c234d1.pngMykeru wrote: If that's the case that she is suffering from real mental illness, then conventional wisdom dictates she will not seek help until she hits bottom.
Which may explain my altruistic urge to help her there any way I can.
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Gumby wrote:It's all subjective opinion, of course, but if you go to her original B&W site and peruse the archives a few years back, it's apparent (at least to me) that her writing and subject matter were much better and more interesting back then than today.FrankGrimes wrote: Really? She was an ok writer? There's no way anyone could know that based on her latest stuff.
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/
At least her posts back then actually had content. The majority of her posts on FTB are simply just some quotes and a couple sentences with her opinions on the said quotes. I had a look at her archives and the manner in which her content has gone downhill is quite staggering.
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I say:sacha wrote:it's emotional blackmail - manipulative - it's difficult for most people to criticise a woman who is crying.rayshul wrote:Please tell me the crying attendees weren't women. Oh gosh. I fucking could not take it. There's a point at which I am fucking over being female.Dick Strawkins wrote:Basically what has been added is that she gives more explanation for her silly "I once broke my ankle so I know what it's like to be disabled" story, and, importantly, she dumps all the blame on Ron Lindsay, for creating a climate in which she was flustered from crying attendees (in tears because of his speech!) and so temporarily unable to held the disabled people.
Good fucking grief. Harden the fuck up.
When some chick starts the tears-of-manipulation, my reaction is to become callous and cruel. I have an uncontrollable urge to give them something to cry about. not only because I know they are using it as a get out of jail free card, but also because it makes all women look calculating, vindictive, fragile, and weak. it also perpetuates the image of women as irrationally emotional, excessively manipulative, and ultimately cowards.
the SJWs do everything they can to stop women from being seen as equals.
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for fuck's sake, she's another malevolent moron, but the article I linked to was decentbovarchist wrote:
Allison Pearson is the one who ran afoul of Doug Stanhope last year, after her cruel remarks regarding a paralyzed man who wanted to commit suicide.
http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/201 ... rkeys.html
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Fresh and stinky indeed. That quoted paragraph is a perfect example of Kafkatrapping and perhaps "totalitarian thinking" per Paula Kirby's Sisterhood of the Oppressed essay. I could see how a fundamentalist Christian could use the same line reasoning to heretics within the Christian community:Apples wrote:Kim Rippere and Elsa Roberts have left a fresh and stinky turd on the Secular Woman website for Lindsay and the rest of the secular community. From the closing paragraph:
That's right, folks - feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are off the table for discussion -- bringing them up for dialogue or debate is a microaggression. :think:Rippere/Roberts wrote:Feminism, sexism, privilege, patriarchy, and identity politics are all concepts that are readily available to research via the internet. The seemingly perpetual need within the secular community to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is a microaggression. The assumption that it is a feminist’s role and responsibility to educate, educate, educate the oppressor is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated.
http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
(I just got myself some edumacation by reading their link to the wiki entry on microaggression: I learned that "microrape" is "characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.")
"Your skeptical point of view is not default! Jesus, the resurrection, creation science, the design argument, original sin, and salvation are all concepts that are readily available to research via the Bible and my Josh McDowell books. The seemingly perpetual need by heretics to have more and new dialogue, instruction, and education on these topics is just being sinful. The assumption that it is a Christian’s role and responsibility to educate sinners is completely unbalanced. Do some work, get educated."
Note the presupposed victimology in the statement, implicitly labelling anyone who doesn't agree with them as "oppressors" (including even women skeptics who disagree with them, I assume). Suppose we did follow their advice and read up all their Feminism 101 Internet resources, and we still remained skeptical of their ideology. I suppose it would be much like a Christian evangelist's reaction to a skeptic -- "you're just taken too much by sin to see God's truth" switched to "you're just too conditioned by privilege to understand feminism and patriarchy."
Here's a good quote by a reviewer of Patai and Koertge's book "Professing Feminism" on destructive identity politics or "IDPOL":
http://mtprof.msun.edu/spr1995/GONSHAK.html
They clearly want to have their ideology placed on a pedestal or dominant position and expect everyone to be subservient to it. What they really mean by "get educated" is "get indoctrinated". Lindsay is right - they do want to sacrifice rational and free inquiry at the alter of dogmatic gender identity politics.IDPOL is the belief that an individual is defined primarily (or, in a more radical formulation, entirely) by his or her race, gender, class and sexual orientation. Of course, IDPOL isn't unique to contemporary feminism. On the contrary, the concept is virtually axiomatic among far-left professors. Patai and Koertge echo the general charge leveled against IDPOL by both conservatives and traditional liberals, that the theory foolishly, dangerously denies the validity of individualism, a founding principle of democratic culture. In women's Studies, the authors argue, IDPOL teams with "victimology" to spawn an extremist feminist politics that demands that a woman define herself exclusively by her status as a "victim," rather than by any more uplifting, empowering trait.
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I also have contempt for the men who put up with this behaviour. I've never dated a man who would let a woman get away with that bollocks. He would walk away (or run) at the first sign.Zenspace wrote:This is exactly my complaint regarding what is being foisted as 'feminism' by the FftB crowd and their various associates. They actually promote a Victorian sense of oh-so-tender-helpless-and-delicate femininity that pushes modern western femininity backwards at least a full century. No thank you. I really like modern, independent, free-thinking and strong women - just like we have in the Pyt.sacha wrote:it's emotional blackmail - manipulative - it's difficult for most people to criticise a woman who is crying.rayshul wrote:Please tell me the crying attendees weren't women. Oh gosh. I fucking could not take it. There's a point at which I am fucking over being female.Dick Strawkins wrote:Basically what has been added is that she gives more explanation for her silly "I once broke my ankle so I know what it's like to be disabled" story, and, importantly, she dumps all the blame on Ron Lindsay, for creating a climate in which she was flustered from crying attendees (in tears because of his speech!) and so temporarily unable to held the disabled people.
Good fucking grief. Harden the fuck up.
When some chick starts the tears-of-manipulation, my reaction is to become callous and cruel. I have an uncontrollable urge to give them something to cry about. not only because I know they are using it as a get out of jail free card, but also because it makes all women look calculating, vindictive, fragile, and weak. it also perpetuates the image of women as irrationally emotional, excessively manipulative, and ultimately cowards.
the SJWs do everything they can to stop women from being seen as equals.
Why the fuck would I want a man I could so easily manipulate? That is just as unattractive as men who put women on a pedestal. Men (and women) with no confidence, nor any self-respect are repugnant
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Gumby wrote:It's all subjective opinion, of course, but if you go to her original B&W site and peruse the archives a few years back, it's apparent (at least to me) that her writing and subject matter were much better and more interesting back then than today.FrankGrimes wrote: Really? She was an ok writer? There's no way anyone could know that based on her latest stuff.
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/
To an extent, having now read some of her older posts, I agree. Like you say it's subjective but her older posts have more of the stuff I like - irony, clear, original and independent thinking and interesting subject matter.
Still, colour me fairly unimpressed. I guess it's pretty difficult being a writer these days but most of it (some of it is actually pretty fucking good), seems fairly pedestrian. Maybe it's the U.S.-centric tone or the fact that it's a blog... Either way, certainly way better than her more recent rantings.
All hail Frank Fucking Grimes - supreme literary critic! :shifty:
I did find this one interesting:
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/200 ... nthusiasm/
And just because I love irony I'm going to compare her writing career to the life and times of Anakin Skywalker. All hail original thinker Frank Fucking Grimes.
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From that link:Apples wrote: http://www.secularwoman.org/your_pov_is_not_default
No, facts (and how we derive those facts) are important, not the person relaying them. If my mechanic told me my car was powered by magic fairies then he'd be wrong, regardless of how many qualifications and years of experience he'd had.When educating regarding an aspect of the genome; gender and race are irrelevant; but, being a geneticist is relevant and paramount.
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In 2010, Ophie penned this:
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/201 ... e-a-phick/
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/201 ... e-a-phick/
Replace Mooney with Myers and we got ourselves a paradox.It could look as if I set out to goad Mooney into banning me and thus looking like someone who bans reasonable dissent from his blog. But I didn’t. I asked my questions repeatedly, but I always thought Mooney would answer them. Each time, I thought (however fatuously) “this time he’ll answer.†I didn’t intentionally set him up. What happened to him is not my fault. I bother to say that because one or two people who used to be friends of mine think it is. They’re mistaken.
I guess I also bother to say it because…well because it clearly did work out badly for Mooney. Those comments on Plait’s site make that obvious. They’re by people I don’t know, so it’s not just a matter of groupthinky loyalties. There is a big segment of the skeptical and pro-science “community†that knows about Mooney’s short way with dissenters, and does not admire it. He gets exciting gigs all the same, so perhaps it doesn’t matter, but I suspect he cares what that “community†thinks of him.
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Also from the "Don't be a phick" link I just posted Ophie wrote in the comments section:
At that point I decided I would no longer comment on her blog, where she could censor my words, and would instead post here. So thanks, Ophie, for helping push me towards the Slymepit.
Now, to be fair, Ophie rarely (if ever) closes off her comments BUT she does moderate comments and is particular about which ones she lets through. I once commented (before I started posting here) to politely point out a factual error in one of her posts and my comment was held in moderation and not allowed through.Mooney has created a big Overton window effect whereby just doing what one obviously should, i.e. allowing criticism and disagreement, not closing comments whenever anyone disagrees with you, not doing posts on specific people with comments closed, etc, becomes deserving of credit because it’s better than not allowing criticism and disagreement, closing comments whenever anyone disagrees with you, doing posts on specific people with comments closed, etc.
At that point I decided I would no longer comment on her blog, where she could censor my words, and would instead post here. So thanks, Ophie, for helping push me towards the Slymepit.
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She just did this yesterday with Damion, basically. Not closed comments, but he's banned from posting there.jjbinx007 wrote:Also from the "Don't be a phick" link I just posted Ophie wrote in the comments section:
Now, to be fair, Ophie rarely (if ever) closes off her comments BUT she does moderate comments and is particular about which ones she lets through. I once commented (before I started posting here) to politely point out a factual error in one of her posts and my comment was held in moderation and not allowed through.Mooney has created a big Overton window effect whereby just doing what one obviously should, i.e. allowing criticism and disagreement, not closing comments whenever anyone disagrees with you, not doing posts on specific people with comments closed, etc, becomes deserving of credit because it’s better than not allowing criticism and disagreement, closing comments whenever anyone disagrees with you, doing posts on specific people with comments closed, etc.
At that point I decided I would no longer comment on her blog, where she could censor my words, and would instead post here. So thanks, Ophie, for helping push me towards the Slymepit.
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I've been rereading Stanhope's takedown of Allison Pearson last year...
http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/201 ... rkeys.html
...and was struck all over again by how fucking epic it is, and how relevant it remains:
http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/201 ... rkeys.html
...and was struck all over again by how fucking epic it is, and how relevant it remains:
This is what I find so objectionable about the SJW's victim narrative. They pretend that they are singled out in some way for unusual abuse, because they are...well, whatever...when the truth is, they are experiencing the normal and expected response to expressing an opinion on the Internet. They pretend that genuinely abusive trolling is indistinguishable from angry criticism, so as to avoid considering the possibility that they brought it on themselves. And whenever one of them says something along the lines of "You don't know what it's like to be called a cunt/faggot/kike/nigger" I throw up in my mouth a little so I can get a good spray when I shout YES I DO! And when it happens, you have three choices: Take the shit, sling it back at them, or crawl into a corner and cry.People like Allison Pearson are dipping their toes into the internet, into the medium that is quickly making them irrelevant and they are shivering at coldness of their own sudden vulnerability....And you can either sink with the ship or come into the future where you are gonna have to hear what people think in whatever language they choose to use. If you google my name or read the comments on any one of my Youtube clips, you'll find boatloads of comments that are far worse than any of the slings and arrows you or even Fabrice Muamba suffered. It's par for the course. And if anyone ever went to prison for even a minute because of the viciousness of their online attacks on me, I would campaign endlessly for their freedom.
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I hope none of them descends to the tropical side of the Americas, then. Here we have a candy called, I shit you not, "negrinho" (roughly translated as: "little nigger"). And other called "nega maluca" ("mad nigger").Lsuoma wrote:Jeebus Tittyfucking Christ!!!Apples wrote:Shitballs ... another innocent A+ thread turns problematic -- this time it's a "Recipe Thread for Cautious [i.e., timid to the point of incompetent - ed.] Food-makers."
Emptyell makes the mistake of recommending Egg in a Hole (Nest, Basket. whatever), which she apparently calls Egyptian Eggs or One-Eyed Egyptian eggs (I say apparently because moderator ischemgeek took the liberty of editing the post: "Reason: Removing racially charged food name").
That's right - even though it has nothing to do with race and refers to ancient Egyptian painting style, it's a "racially charged food name" and a "microaggression."ischemgeek wrote:MODERATOR NOTICE: Emptyell, I know you probably don't associate that food name with anything disparaging, but I'd stay away from such food names because they are microagressive.
So Emptyell apologizes for being blind to her microaggressiveness -- d'oh!!! Kassiane pounces:
Classic. Dear A-plussers - you deserve each other:Kassiane wrote:Sooo associating blindness with a bad thing (like not noticing something you are saying or doing is microaggressive) is also microaggressive...
:moon:
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 739#p83303
Plus, I don't think anyone has noticed emptyell's avatar yet - from The Residents. Watch the shit hit the fan when someone spots that!
Those First World bastards know NOTHING about offending people with food.
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She could be in for an awakening, if she writes more stuff like that and other morons go after her. The article has already been called out as "Islamophobic".sacha wrote:for fuck's sake, she's another malevolent moron, but the article I linked to was decentbovarchist wrote: Allison Pearson is the one who ran afoul of Doug Stanhope last year, after her cruel remarks regarding a paralyzed man who wanted to commit suicide.
http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/201 ... rkeys.html