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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:59 pm

Ok, FT's shelf toilet is closer to what I had in mind.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:12 pm

I haven't paid for a TV licence for coming up to two years now. I get a letter on average every other month telling me they are going to investigate as to why there is no TV licence registered to my address, the letter is written in such a way to try and instil some fear so that you pay up. Then after awhile they will send a letter informing you of a visit by one of Their Agents. What they mean is a bloke employed by a private company to come round and try to intimidate you, they even tell you what date they will come. Most of the time they never turn up. The two times they have caught me in I just told them I am under no legal obligation to answer any on their questions, bid them a good day and shut the door, nothing they can do.
The whole licensing thing is rotten to the core, a stealth tax.Stop fucking paying it.
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Going by Youtubers like Crimebodge, you are lucky the "Agents" didn't pitch up with an escort of cops to intimidate you. The private company contracted by the BBC is apparently quite mercenary and it really riles me up that the police feel the need to facilitate their actions. The police should be there to ensure that the law is obeyed, not to intimidate householders into letting a private enterprise violate their rights. What have the UK police been reduced to? They send officers around to enforce ideology and to act as muscle for license hustlers.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:14 pm

Quote bork corrected.
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:10 pm
I haven't paid for a TV licence for coming up to two years now. I get a letter on average every other month telling me they are going to investigate as to why there is no TV licence registered to my address, the letter is written in such a way to try and instil some fear so that you pay up. Then after awhile they will send a letter informing you of a visit by one of Their Agents. What they mean is a bloke employed by a private company to come round and try to intimidate you, they even tell you what date they will come. Most of the time they never turn up. The two times they have caught me in I just told them I am under no legal obligation to answer any on their questions, bid them a good day and shut the door, nothing they can do.
The whole licensing thing is rotten to the core, a stealth tax.Stop fucking paying it.
Going by Youtubers like Crimebodge, you are lucky the "Agents" didn't pitch up with an escort of cops to intimidate you. The private company contracted by the BBC is apparently quite mercenary and it really riles me up that the police feel the need to facilitate their actions. The police should be there to ensure that the law is obeyed, not to intimidate householders into letting a private enterprise violate their rights. What have the UK police been reduced to? They send officers around to enforce ideology and to act as muscle for license hustlers.

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Post by screwtape » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:23 pm

Lsuoma wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:26 pm
Well, clearly you're nothing but a dreamer.
Like Rudy, I'm on a train to nowhere. Albeit one calling at Reading, Didcot, Swindon, Bath Spa and Bristol Temple Meads.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:33 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:30 pm
The current response is a reaction to an awful and previously unimaginable event (yes, David Gray did go postal over a neighbourly dispute in 1990). Some of the responses are reactive, and true to type for both sides of politics, and are unlikely to achieve the stated community safety aims. They will achieve short term comfort where symbolism and being seen to "do something" are important. The Security Services will look more closely at right wing extremists; the dust will settle. Life will go on in bucolic NZ where live and let live is the norm.
I think how the authorities reacted reveals far more than the fact that they reacted so strongly. From my perspective most of the political leadership in the West has absolutely no grasp of how much in thrall they are to prevailing narratives and how little they actually understand about the points of view of who are not happy with the way the world is going. The police, social media, governments and the mainstream media have a totally skewed outlook on the beliefs of much of their citizenry and on the nature and origin of the social justice religion informing their policies. Unfortunately a well-meaning citizenry proves rife for exploitation by oppression narrative peddlers.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:49 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: NZ was conservative moral heartland up until 1981...
I think there is a bit more to NZ history that what happened in living memory - something about acid drops, bullshit & jellybeans, and a chicken in every pot for christmas (if Micheal Joseph Savage is to be believed). Though I think you document it more competently than my skill allows ('Spot On' in other words).

I grew up in a fairly socially conservative social enclave - the sort of place were an old lady named her cat Monty, because Bernard would be a silly name (and people would get that reference). Majority white in other words - so the maori/pasifica cultural additives were not really part of my experience.

There was definitely a sense of betrayal when the ostensibly left wing Labour party (under Lange & Roger Douglas) got in in 1984 - and made radical economic changes. (The documentary 'Someone Elses Country' is available on YouTube - for those interested).

There is (or was) a stoic aspect to the NZ character (at least with previous generations) - perhaps not surprising for a country where for a long time farming was the major industry. And a weird nanny state-ism with the office of a national censor - leading to such things as separating the audience by gender for the viewing of the film Ulysses in 1967.

I've probably not done it justice - and for all I know it may have changed beyond recognition by the time I get back there...we'll have to see. (Thanks for the words of optimism though).

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:51 pm

screwtape wrote: Like Rudy, I'm on a train to nowhere. Albeit one calling at Reading, Didcot, Swindon, Bath Spa and Bristol Temple Meads.
There's a very good railway museum at Didcot Parkway. (And Swindon come to think of it).

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Post by shoutinghorse » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:55 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Going by Youtubers like Crimebodge, you are lucky the "Agents" didn't pitch up with an escort of cops to intimidate you. The private company contracted by the BBC is apparently quite mercenary and it really riles me up that the police feel the need to facilitate their actions. The police should be there to ensure that the law is obeyed, not to intimidate householders into letting a private enterprise violate their rights. What have the UK police been reduced to? They send officers around to enforce ideology and to act as muscle for license hustlers.
Yeah, what a lot of those YT videos aren't saying is that the reason the bobbies are there is because the guy making the video has probably been abusive in past visits. Even if they do turn up they can't force you to let them in without a warrant and even if they get a warrant (highly unlikely for a TV licence check) they still can't force you to let the TV goon into your home.
It isn't against the law not to purchase a TV licence, you don't need to prove don't watch live TV, they have to prove you do.
If they can prove it that is when they will prosecute and you will be fined up to £1000. People only get sent to jail for not paying the fine.

Having said all that and with today's increasingly draconian police state measures being implicated almost on a daily basis I'm now likely to get my door bashed in by a 6am swat team, tasered into unconsciousness and wake up on Devils Island doing a 10 stretch.
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Post by KiwiInOz » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:51 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: NZ was conservative moral heartland up until 1981...
I think there is a bit more to NZ history that what happened in living memory - something about acid drops, bullshit & jellybeans, and a chicken in every pot for christmas (if Micheal Joseph Savage is to be believed). Though I think you document it more competently than my skill allows ('Spot On' in other words).

I grew up in a fairly socially conservative social enclave - the sort of place were an old lady named her cat Monty, because Bernard would be a silly name (and people would get that reference). Majority white in other words - so the maori/pasifica cultural additives were not really part of my experience.

There was definitely a sense of betrayal when the ostensibly left wing Labour party (under Lange & Roger Douglas) got in in 1984 - and made radical economic changes. (The documentary 'Someone Elses Country' is available on YouTube - for those interested).

There is (or was) a stoic aspect to the NZ character (at least with previous generations) - perhaps not surprising for a country where for a long time farming was the major industry. And a weird nanny state-ism with the office of a national censor - leading to such things as separating the audience by gender for the viewing of the film Ulysses in 1967.

I've probably not done it justice - and for all I know it may have changed beyond recognition by the time I get back there...we'll have to see. (Thanks for the words of optimism though).
Of course, I had forgotten the biggest shakeup which was the Roger Douglas-Richard Prebble drive to a neo-liberal economy. Like the curates egg, it was good in parts. Thank dog that their splinter (libertarian) party never got much traction.


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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:53 pm

shoutinghorse wrote:
Yeah, what a lot of those YT videos aren't saying is that the reason the bobbies are there is because the guy making the video has probably been abusive in past visits. Even if they do turn up they can't force you to let them in without a warrant and even if they get a warrant (highly unlikely for a TV licence check) they still can't force you to let the TV goon into your home.
It isn't against the law not to purchase a TV licence, you don't need to prove don't watch live TV, they have to prove you do.
If they can prove it that is when they will prosecute and you will be fined up to £1000. People only get sent to jail for not paying the fine.

Having said all that and with today's increasingly draconian police state measures being implicated almost on a daily basis I'm now likely to get my door bashed in by a 6am swat team, tasered into unconsciousness and wake up on Devils Island doing a 10 stretch.
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They can gain such proof by filming through your window to show you watching live TV. And it doesn't matter how many times these nutters shout "your implied rights of access have been invoked", simple trespass is not a criminal offence so the agents are free to wander up to the windows with their cameras.

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:53 pm

*REvoked, not INvoked.

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Post by Lsuoma » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:05 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: *REvoked, not INvoked.
"K-I-L-L-E-D: revoked."

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:38 pm

For those interested, I, a Yank and a (theoretical) supporter of European union, am one of maybe two voices at WEIT defending brexit and condemning a new referendum among a cacophony of 'brexiteers be so stoopid' nastiness & elitist snobbery.

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Post by AndrewV69 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:22 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:51 am
That’s just as well. Because on Saturday the NZ “Chief Censor” banned the manifesto (in addition to the video which was already verboten). 10-14 years if you are caught with it. Researchers and Media can apply for a licence to view the material.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/ch ... 5175n.html
I suppose this is another blind spot of mine because while I have thought about the ban, I seem to be missing the point. What exactly are they trying to achieve?

Can someone explain this to me?

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Post by Keating » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 pm

New Zealand has banned the shooters manifesto, but they also sell exemptions to access it:
https://www.classificationoffice.govt.n ... -releases/

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Post by some guy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:49 pm

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:45 am


Crucially, north Americans are more likely to experience the cold kiss of toilet water because their toilets are not like European toilets. Large pools of water just below one's hanging parts make for a pretty easy goal compared to the little puddle of water way down in the bottom of a British bog. I call that cheating.

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Nothing's worse than Italian toilets. For some reason, the bastards decided it would be a swell idea to have a very large, very flat surface right bellow your ass, and the hole is in a recess. When you shit in there, it ends up as the proverbial poopoo platter.

https://toilet-guru.com/pictures/italy- ... cf7753.jpg
In Croatia the geometry is reversed: the tiny hole/outlet is in the front. (So, same outcome - but reversed view.)

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:11 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:53 pm
shoutinghorse wrote:
Yeah, what a lot of those YT videos aren't saying is that the reason the bobbies are there is because the guy making the video has probably been abusive in past visits. Even if they do turn up they can't force you to let them in without a warrant and even if they get a warrant (highly unlikely for a TV licence check) they still can't force you to let the TV goon into your home.
It isn't against the law not to purchase a TV licence, you don't need to prove don't watch live TV, they have to prove you do.
If they can prove it that is when they will prosecute and you will be fined up to £1000. People only get sent to jail for not paying the fine.

Having said all that and with today's increasingly draconian police state measures being implicated almost on a daily basis I'm now likely to get my door bashed in by a 6am swat team, tasered into unconsciousness and wake up on Devils Island doing a 10 stretch.
:shifty:
They can gain such proof by filming through your window to show you watching live TV. And it doesn't matter how many times these nutters shout "your implied rights of access have been invoked", simple trespass is not a criminal offence so the agents are free to wander up to the windows with their cameras.
I would have guessed that a fair number of those videos would have been posted by "sovereign citizen" types. That doesn't mean the licensing twats can't be absolute cunts though. I've definitely seen videos where the agent has tried to bully his way into the premises with bullshit while the cops keep their mouths shut. I've also seen some pretty shocking cases of bailiffs barging or bullshitting their way into premises with the cops in attendance doing nothing. I used to have some sympathy for the police given the job they have to do in the face of public self-righteousness and obstinacy. I've been rapidly losing that sympathy after seeing the shit they pull exposed on youtube. They do not like to have their authority denied. If they stop you without a reasonable pretext or do so on a misunderstanding of the law, deliberate or otherwise, they seem to prefer to concoct bullshit premises to take it further or try to enagage in body searches to justify the stop after the fact, a definite no-no. Crimebodge is a mixed bag. He knows the law and shows what is definitely a bad side to policing, but some of the videos he features are made by real twats who think that filming a cop station shouldn't attract police attention. I've followed the trouble Jonaya (Youtuber) has been having with the Greater Manchester Police and it is disturbing. That is if she is being honest, which I tend to believe she is.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:49 am

Keating wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 pm
New Zealand has banned the shooters manifesto, but they also sell exemptions to access it:
https://www.classificationoffice.govt.n ... -releases/
Know where I can download it? I like to think I have enough willpower counter the urge to go out and kill, even if it is said to have magic powers.

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:56 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Keating wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 pm
New Zealand has banned the shooters manifesto, but they also sell exemptions to access it:
https://www.classificationoffice.govt.n ... -releases/
Know where I can download it? I like to think I have enough willpower counter the urge to go out and kill, even if it is said to have magic powers.
That manifesto is the mandate for the authorities to crack down on people mentioned in it.

So obviously you won't be allowed to see it. Just trust the authorities that they are denying all free speech to just the right people, based on their honest, accurate reading of a document you won't ever see.

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:59 am

The Guardian publishes a horrifying report on the Islamophobia directed against Muslims in the UK.

The report describes Muslims as victims of this, victims of that, abused by this, abused by that.

Although there is one place where the Guardian article swaps out the word 'Muslim' and replaces it by the word 'Asian'.

Guess in what context?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/m ... phobia-row

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:18 am

According to NZ's estimable Chief Word Nanny:
Most people reading the publication will not be harmed by it. “Most New Zealanders who have read this will simply find it repellent. But most New Zealanders are not the target audience. It is aimed at a small group who may be receptive to its hateful, racist and violent ideology, and who may be inspired to follow the example set by its apparent author.”
So, pretty much like the Hadiths or the Koran? When will he be banning them?

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:23 am

Now New Zealand has launched a Royal Commission into the shooting. For all those unanswered questions.

Really, this is getting really weirdly compulsive.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-25/ ... k/10936386

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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:30 am

SM1957 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:56 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Keating wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 pm
New Zealand has banned the shooters manifesto, but they also sell exemptions to access it:
https://www.classificationoffice.govt.n ... -releases/
Know where I can download it? I like to think I have enough willpower counter the urge to go out and kill, even if it is said to have magic powers.
That manifesto is the mandate for the authorities to crack down on people mentioned in it.

So obviously you won't be allowed to see it. Just trust the authorities that they are denying all free speech to just the right people, based on their honest, accurate reading of a document you won't ever see.
Here you go https://www.ilfoglio.it/userUpload/The_ ... ertito.pdf
Also an article about it from bellingcat Shitposting, Inspirational Terrorism, and the Christchurch Mosque Massacre

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Post by Hunt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:46 am

Keating wrote: New Zealand has banned the shooters manifesto, but they also sell exemptions to access it:
https://www.classificationoffice.govt.n ... -releases/
Q&As

What if me or someone in my family has viewed or shared the video or document already?

The most important thing is to check that anyone who has seen the footage or read the document is ok.
First, check to see if you can write a grammatical sentence. :D

Not sure what is more frightening, the video, the manifesto, or that NZ has a "Chief Censor". What do they think, that you'll die seven days after watching it?

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:09 am

There are some things man was not meant to know.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:10 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:23 am
Now New Zealand has launched a Royal Commission into the shooting. For all those unanswered questions.

Really, this is getting really weirdly compulsive.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-25/ ... k/10936386
Generally, I think any opportunity to learn should be taken. However I doubt they'll take the blinkers off before going into this. Any legitimate grievances that could have festered in Killer will likely be classified as conspiracy theories, delusions or plain bigotry. I'm sure he also had a few of those.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:38 am

It will be an opportunity for the Govt to get “neutral” third party advice to remove more rights in cracking down on the invisible right.

In business you’d be getting an “independent best practice audit of current work practices” leading to “recommendations for transformation”.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:54 am

Check out this MSM travesty of analysis.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 516nw.html

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:55 am

MarcusAu wrote: There are some things man was not meant to know.
I'm OK to fantasize about the contents of Melody Hensley's knickers though, right?

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:04 am

Bhurzum wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: There are some things man was not meant to know.
I'm OK to fantasize about the contents of Melody Hensley's knickers though, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

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Post by Hunt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:28 am

Well, now I've watched the video AND read the manifesto.

eeeeeem, rrrrrrrha, rrrrha, zimbickambala...... whitenationoecoterrorcandaceowens....eeeezzzzzz, UH.

No, I'm Ok, I'm Ok.

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:46 am

Hunt wrote: eeeeeem, rrrrrrrha, rrrrha, zimbickambala...... whitenationoecoterrorcandaceowens....eeeezzzzzz, UH.

No, I'm Ok, I'm Ok.
Trillian wrote:
...four to one against and falling...three to one...two...one...probability factor of one to one...we have normality, I repeat we have normality.

Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:42 am

Found the allegedly mesmeric manifesto. Obviously I had to go to Dailystormer to get it. Law of unintended consequences.

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:51 am

Beware the King in Yellow.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:31 am

MarcusAu wrote: Beware the King in Yellow.
It's his brother I'd be worried about.

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Post by Lsuoma » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 am

I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize. The publicity she is getting is going to her head. Leader of a country that's always getting left off maps suddenly finds herself on every front page. She's flicking the bean to all this, I'm sure.

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:08 am

Lsuoma wrote: I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize. The publicity she is getting is going to her head. Leader of a country that's always getting left off maps suddenly finds herself on every front page. She's flicking the bean to all this, I'm sure
With apologies to Jen McReight - I think she might be champing at the bit.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:16 am

Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:00 am

Lsuoma wrote: I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize.
If obama could get one for giving a speech, then surely Adern can get one for banning a speech.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:11 am

As Jordan Peterson observed, the far Left has been making waging a zero sum identity war for some time, with whites a one of the evil identities that must cede power, so it's not surprising that the far Right eventually said, 'fine, but we're gonna win.'

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:14 am

As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:28 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.
There is no Great Replacement but a changing voting demographic will remove white people from government positions. leading to more BAME representation to reflect the new demographic,

Isn't that the same thing?

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Post by Hunt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:22 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

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Prayers were led by representatives of the three Monotheistic Religions: Islam, Judaism and Christianity. I was surprised in the Iman's prayer by the similarity of the teaching about eternal life to the Catholic one.

The Muslim call to prayer echoed round the square and the names of the dead were read out, followed by two minutes silence. We then sang the New Zealand National Anthem. We were invited to sing various songs in Mãori before linking hands as a young Muslim woman read a Peace Poem she had composed. Of course, a New Zealand event wouldn't be complete without the Haka.
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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:39 pm

Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

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You hit the nail on the head there, especially how people talk themselves into more extreme positions. A lot of what I saw in the manifesto was just run of the mill alt right propaganda you would find on the Goldy/Southern type of rants verbatim. The great replacement, white genocide, bad old civic nationalism, loss of culture, invaders...
Apparently not too long ago he posted about what a nice trip he had to Pakistan, how nice the people were, what a beautiful country and how visas should be easier to get and Pakistan would get a lot more tourism. Odd it was even the same guy. My guess is that whatever purpose in life he had he lost and he replaced it with the politics of paranoia.

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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm

SM1957 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:28 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.
There is no Great Replacement but a changing voting demographic will remove white people from government positions. leading to more BAME representation to reflect the new demographic,

Isn't that the same thing?
From what I see, pretty much so.

Not to mention that White people stopped breeding in sufficient numbers to support the various unsustainable entitlement ponzi schemes sponsored by government and the private sector. Additional pressure was applied due to people living a lot longer than they used to in the past.

We are seeing dysgenic effects when people who in the past would have been culled before they could reproduce, were nullified with advances in medicine and the abundance of cheap "food".

The fact that those of the top and middle ranks of the socioeconomic pyramid further reduced the quantity of their offspring meant that there were fewer and fewer numbers to populate the middle ranks of all sectors (administration, military, judicial etc.) with the upbringing and culture to maintain, never mind expand the structure of the various systems of government and industry means that increasingly stupid people making increasingly stupid decisions at the helm in all sectors.

Hence, immigration administered by the stupid, who are more than likely to be superficially educated way beyond their ability to understand much less utilise what they have been taught and unable to discard the nonsense theorys they have been steeped it.

As I have hinted earlier, it is not just immigration that is the issue. Immigration and the way it was implemented is just one example of the systematic and structural issues perpetuated by those who are increasingly incapable of maintaining the systems they have been entrusted with.

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Post by KiwiInOz » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon
During the relatively recent G20 meeting in Brisbane (when Obama, Putin, Merkel etc visited), the mental health sector were particularly concerned because the increased security and publicity of security heightened the issues for those with anxiety and other conditions such as paranoid schizophrenia. Nobody went postal, but the dedicated beds in hospitals etc were full.

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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:25 pm

BTW, for those who may be interested:


The Population Turnover In Westernmost Europe Over The Last 8,000 Years

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In the figure above you see an excellent representation of the different streams of ancestry and settlement within Spain over the last 8,000 years. You can conclude from it, for example, that only a small proportion of the ancestry of modern Spaniards derives from people who were residents of the peninsula during the Pleistocene. Similarly, you can also conclude that a minority, though non-trivial, proportion of the ancestry of modern-day Spaniards derives from people who arrived during Classical Antiquity and the Moorish period.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:32 pm

Hunt wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:22 pm
As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.
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Of course Muslim immigration is not the cause of the decline of Xtianity or traditionalism. These things have happened naturally and are not something that your average anti-immigrant, anti-globalist European is blaming Islam for. Unfortunately Western society, I'm sure with the aid of the Soviet Union, has evolved an ideological elite who have no understanding of the achievements of their peoples and have no pride in their nations, just the opposite in fact. They have raised a privileged youth devoid of any historical perspective or understanding of the relationship between a people and their nation state. They are steeped in masochistic guilt and taught that their nation is the property of the world. This makes these nations vulnerable to rapid cultural change so that the country bequeathed to them by centuries of struggle by their forefathers starts becoming a generic nothing bereft of the important unique characteristics that provided them with a sense of identity and belonging. Kirb's idea of a kind of vanilla Western Enlightenment identity is a pale imitation. Enlightenment ideas are good, but they do not replace the need for a sense of belonging to a place or a people.
You have a broad culture in Islam which schizophrenically regards itself as the dog's bollocks while confronted with the the evidence that it 'aint shit. They come to Europe, for whatever reason, from macho cultures and are quite happy to show their contempt for the self-flagellating fools they find there. They see no reason to drop their sense of superiority and have no reason to integrate. One of the big problems with Islam is that even if some percentage of a generation becomes more moderate, the scriptures are still there and the community of believers is quite happy to remind them of their duty when the time comes. They are quite tribal. There is no question that replacement is happening. The demographic changes are significant, probably irreversible given that the political will amongst the ruling class to change is not there. You also have the snowballing feedback loop of immigrants voting for more immigration. Europeans are ceding political control to newcomers with alien value systems. No wonder they are frustrated, angry or despairing at having their objections muzzled. If you don't believe it's happening and deliberate, look up what Andrew Neather had to say about Tony Blair wanting to rub the right's noses in immigration.

I agree with a lot of what Tarrant had to say. He may be right about what is needed to reverse the situation, however the vast majority of people do not regard blowing brains out as something they want to do, thankfully, so they feel trapped and vent their frustrations online, where allowed to, and will probably fall into apathy at some point. There is always a percentage willing to use the shotgun option though. I have sympathy for aspects of their cause (not the racial purity crap), but definitely not their actions. If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm

ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.

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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:15 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm
ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
I thought you lived in Canada!

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:17 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon
You hit the nail on the head there, especially how people talk themselves into more extreme positions. A lot of what I saw in the manifesto was just run of the mill alt right propaganda you would find on the Goldy/Southern type of rants verbatim. The great replacement, white genocide, bad old civic nationalism, loss of culture, invaders...
Apparently not too long ago he posted about what a nice trip he had to Pakistan, how nice the people were, what a beautiful country and how visas should be easier to get and Pakistan would get a lot more tourism. Odd it was even the same guy. My guess is that whatever purpose in life he had he lost and he replaced it with the politics of paranoia.
It’s not uncommon for traditionalists to welcome exotic culture which dominates its own host environment.

But for me, the killer’s motivation is still opaque. Was he really playing 4D chess to get accelerationism? Or was that just another layer of his onion world of memes? Was he actually active in the ID space and then got radicalised to murder? I haven’t seen any evidence he intellectually engaged with the topic pre looney tunes.

I’d put money down he is a chan basement dweller who latched onto tropes of convenience. IDism and COD were two mental cos play routines substituted for reality.

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Goldy was interesting in her use of Statistics Canada data to back her demographic arguments. The manifesto I read did not have any such effort at structure or provision of evidence. In fact it was a pretty lame attempt at pulling threads together to form a non-argument. But that wasn’t his point, he cut and paste a stew of generalised talking points into a mashup. He was painting by numbers with a blindfold.

Re Hunt’s post.

A kumbaya economic-integrationist approach to migration is overly materialistic (ie it ignores the cultural) and doesn’t scale well. Ask Manchester, who wants its first world status back.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Financial Times

Manchester attack brings Muslim integration into focus
https://www.ft.com/content/17e6311c-478 ... b4dd6296b8

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Post by HunnyBunny » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:40 pm

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1981 saw that comfort upended. The Springboks were touring and the anti-Apartheid movement cranked into gear. Mass protests, games cancelled (my future wife was a 15 yo protester in the middle of the Waikato rugby ground - and said that she had never been so scared in her life, as the crowd wanted the lions released), families and friends split apart. The country had lost it's innocence.
It's a small world as they say. 1981 I was also 15, also on the field at Rugby Park, also scared shitless. And got in huge trouble after, because my Dad was there too, except he was a Police sergent in full riot gear. I remember the night before he brought home his newly issued riot baton, a heavy metal thing with a handle underneath, all the better for whacking hippy protesters with. He had no idea I was travelling the 45 minute journey to Hamilton with some friends the next day. Dad took a full large bottle of DB to the back, thrown by a rugby supporter pissed at the game being cancelled, and the injury marked the beginning of the end of his 35 yr police career.

It was also the beginning of the end of the age of innocence in NZ, as you mention, Lange won on a no-nukes platform, and then we had the Rainbow Warrior sinking. Fuck the French!

I left 20 years ago, spent most of my teens and 20s dreaming of getting out. The country, the attitudes, the smugness, the jobs-worthers, killed any sense of patriotic pride I once had, Maybe my view was coloured by going back to uni in my late 20s, to Waikato at the start of the PC brigade take-over. Tried to go back once, never again. A country has to have more than a friendly attitude and some pretty beaches.

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Post by Lsuoma » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:57 pm

So, stay-at-home Brits: what does the latest move in Westminster portend? GE/second referendum/political assassination of TM? Either way, I'm sure the British public is going to have its arsehole seriously reamed.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:45 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm
ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
I thought you lived in Canada!
Not sure what you mean. There is a lot of demand for the spectrum of low skilled jobs to well paid professionals in this area. Canada is a big country, maybe you are talking about a different hood?

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Post by KiwiInOz » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:26 pm

HunnyBunny wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
1981 saw that comfort upended. The Springboks were touring and the anti-Apartheid movement cranked into gear. Mass protests, games cancelled (my future wife was a 15 yo protester in the middle of the Waikato rugby ground - and said that she had never been so scared in her life, as the crowd wanted the lions released), families and friends split apart. The country had lost it's innocence.
It's a small world as they say. 1981 I was also 15, also on the field at Rugby Park, also scared shitless. And got in huge trouble after, because my Dad was there too, except he was a Police sergent in full riot gear. I remember the night before he brought home his newly issued riot baton, a heavy metal thing with a handle underneath, all the better for whacking hippy protesters with. He had no idea I was travelling the 45 minute journey to Hamilton with some friends the next day. Dad took a full large bottle of DB to the back, thrown by a rugby supporter pissed at the game being cancelled, and the injury marked the beginning of the end of his 35 yr police career.

It was also the beginning of the end of the age of innocence in NZ, as you mention, Lange won on a no-nukes platform, and then we had the Rainbow Warrior sinking. Fuck the French!

I left 20 years ago, spent most of my teens and 20s dreaming of getting out. The country, the attitudes, the smugness, the jobs-worthers, killed any sense of patriotic pride I once had, Maybe my view was coloured by going back to uni in my late 20s, to Waikato at the start of the PC brigade take-over. Tried to go back once, never again. A country has to have more than a friendly attitude and some pretty beaches.
My Dad had a ticket to go to the game, but chose not to because of the potential drama. He was furious about the game being cancelled. I think that he has forgiven d-i-l since.

Waikato (particularly Hamilton) in the early 80s was dead. Palmy for Uni in the mid 80s was ok - when the students were in town - dead at other times. We left NZ about 15 years ago and I am in two minds about going back. Wife would like to. There is a part of NZ that will always be my turangawaewae, so maybe.

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:24 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
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Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:25 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:57 pm

SM1957 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?
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But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

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