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New website referenced over at WEIT:

https://newdiscourses.com/

Looks like it is put together by Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay.

Interesting articles. Saul Sorell-Till has already confused criticism of "Social Justice" with criticism of the civil rights movement, etc, and also is mad that they don't discuss Trump.

An interesting history of the Evergreen affair, including a documentary:

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/01/influ ... n-college/

How can anyone sit through the meetings shown without laughing out loud?

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There. Are you happy now?
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I've been reading about how the RCMP had been consulting "experts" as to whether the cartoon on that sticker constituted ch*ld p*rn (they decided it did not, which surprised me as I assume that common sense has become extinct), but none of the reports showed the sticker. Now I've seen it, I have to say it is rather funny.
Alberta is in a mess these days, as our federal government is doing all it can to destroy the Albertan economy in the name of carbon-neutral virtue signalling. Some Albertan MPs have fought back with the so-called 'Buffalo Declaration' (before provincehood, AB and SK were often called 'Buffalo'), demanding some understanding from Trudeau of their circumstances, or else they will fight for separation/secession. And to cap that off, we have to wheel out the obligatory looney indigenous offense merchant:
This declaration is a clear display of ignorance and moreover a thoughtless claim of support to your inequalities. The buffalo are a sacred being to our ceremonies and our culture, and in no way should it be used to further a political gain. The audacity to select the very four-legged being that your ancestors attempted to wipe out in an effort to annihilate our existence, is an insult to our people.
Oh, Canada!

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What the MSM won't tell you:

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I'll admit... I'm wasn't 100% sure where the 'sacrum' is, so I checked an Encyclopedia*...

https://i.imgur.com/yjkRoFS.jpg

*Dramatica

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us

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Service Dog wrote: I'll admit... I'm wasn't 100% sure where the 'sacrum' is, so I checked an Encyclopedia*...

https://i.imgur.com/yjkRoFS.jpg

*Dramatica

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us
If you had a tattoo there it would be the ultimate tramp stamp.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: If you had a tattoo there it would be the ultimate tramp stamp.
It would be a queer tattoo...


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Bhurzum wrote:
IM NOT DEAD!!!
Troublemaker huh? (Whack)

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mordacious1 wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:
IM NOT DEAD!!!
Troublemaker huh? (Whack)
"I don't want to go into the incinerator!"

"Oh, don't be such a baby!"

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This morning an elderly ex-yakuza boss felt faint, while scooping grounds into his Mr. Coffee filter. He fell to the floor & was too weak to get back up. He lay there for two hours. At some point, he pissed himself. Finally he called a family member & we went to his apartment. I brought a hammer, to bash thru the chainlock on the door. Nothing broken, no pain, he claimed he hadn't fully blacked-out. He was just pale and weak. If there were other symptoms, he hid them-- fearing he'll lose his home & be sent to a nursing home. Much like-- a couple weeks ago-- when he set an egg carton on the stove, then put it in the fridge... resulting in smoke & flames & a firetruck. He claimed that fire was a complete mystery-- spontaneous combustion!-- not a sign he can't take care of himself. I agree with him. I think he should be allowed to fall down & wait for help as much as he wants. No nursing home until he breaks bones or can't stand-up in the 1st place. Then again, I'm not the daughter who has to look after him daily.

I didn't go to the hospital. He pissed himself again in the ambulance. I went home, walked the dog. Dog had a couple elderly falls of his own. Lost balance pooping & nearly sat in it. But the rest of dog's day was fine, loafing.

The daughter called in the afternoon & informed me that the hospital staff's slang for Coronavirus is "nineteen". "Swab him for 19". So far he's testing negative for everything. X-rays & MRI clear, too. Probably weakened by some infection.

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In other news,
I wonder how much Bloomberg paid Buttigieg to quit.

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Service Dog wrote: In other news,
I wonder how much Bloomberg paid Buttigieg to quit.
Naw, it was the DNC. All hands on deck to stop the Bern. They must have calculated that Biden will pick up the Buttigieg votes.

Funny today. Biden was on Chris Wallace’s show and Wallace was asking him about all his foggy mistakes. Biden said it wasn’t a serious issue. Then Wallace invited him back and Biden said...I’d be glad to come back, Chuck.
Uh, it’s Chris.
Hilarious.

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The Democrats' strategy at this point is to concede Trump's reelection, so long as Bernie isn't the nominee and drags down the entire ticket, losing the House and state elections, with his socialism cray-cray.

So it's rally around Joe -- despite his obvious senile dementia, despite his Hunter baggage, despite the fact that his platform is the political equivalent of decoupage.

Amy Klobuchar is the only one with a shot to beat Trump, but nobody thinks she can win the nomination, cuz everybody says she can't win the nomination. And now BLM / Bernie Bros are disrupting her events, because she had the audacity as a prosecutor to actually prosecute gangstas

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Really? wrote: the David Silverman saga
I made it thru all 3 hours of Silverman's "he touched my lower back!!!" accuser, on the Dogma Debate podcast.
That Rebecca Vitsmun is a real piece of work.



I found the Atheism-Is-Unstoppable reaction-video... to be insightful in many ways... however many of AIU's interjections served only to make listening more unbearable. I didn't make it to the end of that version.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:45 pm
The Democrats' strategy at this point is to concede Trump's reelection, so long as Bernie isn't the nominee and drags down the entire ticket, losing the House and state elections, with his socialism cray-cray.

So it's rally around Joe -- despite his obvious senile dementia, despite his Hunter baggage, despite the fact that his platform is the political equivalent of decoupage.

Amy Klobuchar is the only one with a shot to beat Trump, but nobody thinks she can win the nomination, cuz everybody says she can't win the nomination. And now BLM / Bernie Bros are disrupting her events, because she had the audacity as a prosecutor to actually prosecute gangstas

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That Joe is seen as the safe candidate is an indication of how endemic corruption is in the system. Hunter's Ukrainian ventures are likely the tip of the iceberg, at least according to Peter Schweizer's "Profiles in Corruption." Joe's family have been raking in the bucks throughout his career. At least Harris is out. Her record of corruption in office in California beggars belief. Looks like the Ukrainians are starting to move with criminal investigations into what went on in the Obama years. I hear rumours about the Ukraine having been turned into a vassal state with the US running the show through Biden. The expected gold rush by the politically connected was apparently much in evidence. CNN might have to invest in some bigger blinders if Joe were ever to become president.

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Lots of photos of the migrant families with children being denied entry into the EU by those Greek sadists:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/0 ... -deployed/

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A man beat a transgender woman for using the correct bathroom -- the women's. Now he's guilty of a hate crime


No, that's not a headline from The Friendly Atheist, it's CNN:
(CNN)A man who beat a transgender woman for using the women's restroom was found guilty of a hate crime.

Fred Constanza was convicted in an Oregon court for first-degree bias crime, second-degree assault and harassment for the August attack on Lauren Jackson, a transgender woman.

Jackson was visiting Agate State Beach Park near Newport, Oregon, on the day of the attack. She stopped to use the women's restroom -- and that's when Costanza walked over 100 yards across the park to confront her, multiple witnesses told Newport police.

Jackson said Constanza approached her, yelling something about her being a woman. She said nothing in response.
The punishment for hate crime in Oregon is a mandatory five-to-ten years.


I doubt Constanza was "yelling something about her being a woman", rather the opposite:

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California ad spending to this point:

Biden $4000

Bloomberg $78,000,000

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Hi 'Pitters, hope you're all having a decent year of it. I'm coming off the back of a fight with Cancer and also a hemorrhagic stroke which has been largely symptom-less but has meant big changes in my life.

Lsuoma, sorry to hear about your old man.

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Well, fugger me - my employer has just announced that we have two cases of COVID-19 on the floor where I work. Floor has been evacuated (pretty sure whole building will be), and we have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days...

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Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?

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Lsuoma: fuck me. Stay clean and safe old chap. If Ape were still around I'm sure oyu would be getting an updated avatar with face mask. Just imagine it instead.

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Amy Klobuchar has dropped out and will endorse Biden.

Too late, I already filled out my ballot.

It's gonna be a complete shit show no matter what, as Bloomie will run as an independent if Bernie is the nominee, and don't rule out Bernie running as an indy if he doesn't get the nomination.

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These figures of Bloomberg allegedly jizzing hundreds of millions of dollars all over the metaphorical faces of ad agencies, in a cash bukkake, I just cannot comprehend. I simply can't see how it would be possible to spend that much on ads in a month or whatever. Really, how has he done it (if he indeed has done it)? And the ads are utter dogshit, just him stood in front of some bored looking people, reading some boring words while sounding very bored.

Just imagine him and Trump face to face in pre-election debates, like Deputy Dawg and Top Cat. Not a hope in fucking hell.

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Sulman wrote: Hi 'Pitters, hope you're all having a decent year of it. I'm coming off the back of a fight with Cancer and also a hemorrhagic stroke which has been largely symptom-less but has meant big changes in my life.

Lsuoma, sorry to hear about your old man.
Fuck, this mortality business is getting a bit tiresome.

I hope that you're on the improve, Sulman.

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Hold fast, Sulman.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?
My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.

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Sulman wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?
My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Well, one thing you've missed recently is Brive beginning a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber to avoid diabetes, so maybe steer clear of his advice :lol:

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Best wishes, Lsuoma. Good luck keeping the WuFlu at bay.
Sulman wrote: My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Sorry to hear about your trouble too. My dad is in a very similar boat. He's currently waiting to get further tests after a GP detected a mild aneurysm on his last check up. His diet has always made Trump's look healthy, so hopefully he takes it seriously.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Sulman wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?
My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Well, one thing you've missed recently is Brive beginning a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber to avoid diabetes, so maybe steer clear of his advice :lol:
I think he eats a carrot too.

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Keating wrote: Best wishes, Lsuoma. Good luck keeping the WuFlu at bay.
Sulman wrote: My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Sorry to hear about your trouble too. My dad is in a very similar boat. He's currently waiting to get further tests after a GP detected a mild aneurysm on his last check up. His diet has always made Trump's look healthy, so hopefully he takes it seriously.
SFAIK (and IANAD), he should look to reduce his blood pressure immediately for an aneurism, and without medications as yet, the best way to do that in the short term is lower salt (specifically sodium) intake.

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mordacious1 wrote: California ad spending to this point:

Biden $4000

Bloomberg $78,000,000
ratio: $1/$19,500

Also... that $4000 was obviously spent on a night of crack & lapdances, by Hunter.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?
None of that goddamn commie ~concentrated~ water, that's for sure! Just pure grain alcohol & distilled water. Or rainwater. And for good reason. Water is the source of all life. Seven tenths of the earth's surface is water.


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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: SFAIK (and IANAD), he should look to reduce his blood pressure immediately for an aneurism, and without medications as yet, the best way to do that in the short term is lower salt (specifically sodium) intake.
Yeah, his brother is a doctor and has already given him all the advice. The trouble, as it is with us all, is taking it.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: These figures of Bloomberg allegedly jizzing hundreds of millions of dollars all over the metaphorical faces of ad agencies, in a cash bukkake, I just cannot comprehend. I simply can't see how it would be possible to spend that much on ads in a month or whatever. Really, how has he done it (if he indeed has done it)? And the ads are utter dogshit, just him stood in front of some bored looking people, reading some boring words while sounding very bored.

Just imagine him and Trump face to face in pre-election debates, like Deputy Dawg and Top Cat. Not a hope in fucking hell.
The one good thing that MIGHT come out of this would be a constitutional amendment to revoke Citizens United. Unlikely, but we can hope.

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Stankeye wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Sulman wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?

My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Well, one thing you've missed recently is Brive beginning a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber to avoid diabetes, so maybe steer clear of his advice :lol:
I think he eats a carrot too.
Ithink 3 grams/day poached in Wallaby Sauce (gluten free)

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Well, one thing you've missed recently is Brive beginning a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber to avoid diabetes, so maybe steer clear of his advice :lol:
Ahh, the Lindy West Diet.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber
Sounds like a session of growling at Melody Hensley's badger.

Yum!

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Hey Sulman, glad you are back to goodish health by the sound of it. What are the big changes needed for a symptom-free stroke? Diet, and such or something else?
My cholesterol is a little high. Because of the evidence of a stroke that puts me statistically in the shitter, so no more saturated fats for me, and they may put me on meds as they want a very low number.
Well, one thing you've missed recently is Brive beginning a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber to avoid diabetes, so maybe steer clear of his advice :lol:
Let’s see. Firstly 85% of your cholesterol is made by the liver, only 15% comes from diet. If you eat more cholesterol your liver makes less in compensation. Ie dietary cholesterol does not equate to blood cholesterol.

Secondly, cholesterol tests actually measure the level,of transporters of cholesterol. Of which there are two.

HDL carries excess cholesterol back to liver for reprocessing. This is considered good. HDL is “good cholesterol”.

Normal LDL (pattern A) carries fat and cholesterol to cells for burning/repair. Without it you die. So pattern A is also good.

However. LDL (pattern B) which has been impacted by glucose + genetic disposition becomes ‘fucked up’ (compacts into a dense version) and stops docking with cells. Instead it hangs about (raising cholesterol) until it embed in cell walls, causing inflammation. White blood cells counter attack and plaque is formed leading to heart attacks.

So high LDL either means lots of normal fat transportation OR lots of shit LDL floating around due to demention forcing the building more and more.

Its carbs and genes that fuck you. Not fat. And not “cholesterol”.

Best test. If HDL is high. If lipids are low and if blood sugar traces are normal then high LDL is fine as it’s probably pattern A.

Lesson over.

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On a less “inflammatory” note.

My N1 experiment saw my BMI decrease from 30.8:to a steady 24.x

https://i.imgur.com/nKdoPlt.jpg

Now I’m off to complete my four egg omelette with halloumi and butter.

https://i.imgur.com/JgwKmtY.jpg

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Finally. The standard low carb canon says:

Simple carbs in general, and fructose in particular (due to how it’s metabolised), will increase LDL-B. Vegetable oil, high in omega 6, will raise your inflammation levels.

Combined you facilitate CVD.

Saturated fat will raise HDL and LDL-A, but these are not on the critical path to heart attack.

I am not a doctor. But this is what the “clever” articles seem to suggest.

See for example
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 3/fulltext

https://i.imgur.com/WmpS93R.jpg

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Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: a diet consisting solely of lard, beef dripping, and whale blubber
Sounds like a session of growling at Melody Hensley's badger.

Yum!
Fuck me, you're a dirty beast. (But I about pissed myself at the disgusting imagery)

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Humans were never meant to consume over about 15 to 20 grams of sugar a day. With the modern western diet it's nearly impossible to get out of breakfast without consuming twice or thrice that. The indigenous people in my locale are plagued with obesity and diabetes, as are the majority of Americans (over half of Americans are pre-diabetic or worse). If you visit the local Walmart or Target or grocery store, the food sections are wall to wall Type II diabetes.

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“Shit”

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Brive1987 wrote:
Lesson over.
Not quite. Size matters, after all. We all know that oil and water don't mix, so how to transport fat in an aqueous medium, ie blood? Bind the cholesterol to a protein that is hydrophilic, making a lipoprotein. The resulting combination molecules can be large (HDL), small (LDL) and tiny (VLDL). The small and tiny molecules are capable of worming their way into the gaps between endothelial cells that line blood vessels, whereas the large ones are too big to fit. This is why HDL is 'good' cholesterol - it won't clog arteries. It doesn't clean your pipes out, but the more cholesterol is transported as HDL means less being moved around as LDL or VLDL. HDL also has some small effects on vessel wall inflammation, and may inhibit LDL deposition.

On to statins. Much as we learn to become cynical about drug companies, and especially the push to use them for primary prevention (ie treating people who don't have cardiovascular disease with them on the grounds that it is better to prevent than cure), aided by expert panels of docs well compensated for their time and correct opinions by drug companies, these drugs have changed the medical world. Time was when your mid-thirties were the 'heart attack years' and many men died at a young age (œstrogen encourages HDL production over LDL, but women more than catch up after menopause). Between smoking reduction preventing the heart attacks, and statins radically changing the outlook after one has occurred, far, far less premature deaths from heart disease are occurring and consequently cancer is quickly overtaking heart disease as the leading mode of death - simply meaning we have to die of something, and more people are failing to die of heart disease and thus living long enough to get cancer at some later age. There's no doubt if we gave statins to everyone, we could nearly eradicate ischæmic heart disease, peripheral vascular disease and a lot of strokes (not the untreated hypertensive ones, or the berry aneurysms). But we recoil from universal drugging, and also like to deny the manufacturers such obscene profits even if we have to die to do it. It's also true that a small minority of people can't take statins as they get rhabdomyolysis (can be fatal), abnormal liver function (probably not very harmful) and muscle pains (annoying but not dangerous as long as no rhabdomyolysis occurs) - hence the need for regular CPK and LFT testing to identify such patients. We already routinely put diabetics onto statins even if they have no vascular disease, as their risk is high enough that this is justified. Statins primarily lower LDL, and sometimes raise HDL, sometimes not. Getting your LDL as low as possible not only halts deposition of crud in artery walls, it can reverse it, which is remarkable. They can clean your pipes.

In all of this, we have not addressed triglycerides, which are another form of fat in the bloodstream. Type IV hyperlipidæmia is purely a hypertriglyceridæmia, and kills quickly in its serious inherited form. Remember elevated triglycerides are one of the three legs of the 'metabolic syndrome' and thus a problem for nearly all type 2 diabetics. Drug treatments to lower them are not very effective, with statins, fibrates and niacin used, but not as effective as weight loss, exercise and glycæmic control.

Here endeth the lesson, and sorry for the diphthongs. I did learn the simplified norte americano spelling, but am developing curmudgeonly tendencies in my old age.

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I'm keeping things simple. I didn't eat that badly before, but apparently not well enough. One of the side effects of immunotherapy is fatigue due to anaemia (the drug lowers H&H quite significantly) so one tends to become sedentary. I was also on oral steroids for an autoimmune retinal disorder which made me eat like Godzilla.

My physio (for surgical scarring and lymphedema management) has helped a great deal, especially as any kind of strength training exhausts me in no time. But I can do lots of moderate cardio. I want to try and manage without statins if possible. Will see what the doc says next week. Here's me numbers, for those curious:
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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Fuck me, you're a dirty beast. (But I about pissed myself at the disgusting imagery)
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Fuck the sniff-test, it's chowin' time!

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Bhurzum wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Fuck me, you're a dirty beast. (But I about pissed myself at the disgusting imagery)
https://melmagazine.com/wp-content/uplo ... arsetutf-8


Fuck the sniff-test, it's chowin' time!
I was just thinking 'Bhurzum will be all over this'

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Sulman wrote: I'm keeping things simple. I didn't eat that badly before, but apparently not well enough. One of the side effects of immunotherapy is fatigue due to anaemia (the drug lowers H&H quite significantly) so one tends to become sedentary. I was also on oral steroids for an autoimmune retinal disorder which made me eat like Godzilla.

My physio (for surgical scarring and lymphedema management) has helped a great deal, especially as any kind of strength training exhausts me in no time. But I can do lots of moderate cardio. I want to try and manage without statins if possible. Will see what the doc says next week. Here's me numbers, for those curious:
My guess is the doc will strongly push statins, because that's just what doctors do for patients with high LDL and a CVD history. If you want ammunition not to take them, ask for an LDL Particle Test, also called a VAP test. This will measure what proportion of your LDL is more dangerous smaller particles vs relatively benign larger particles. Given that your triglycerides, HDL, and VLDL are all good, I'd say you have a good chance of getting a salutary result on this test.

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screwtape wrote:
In all of this, we have not addressed triglycerides, which are another form of fat in the bloodstream. Type IV hyperlipidæmia is purely a hypertriglyceridæmia, and kills quickly in its serious inherited form. Remember elevated triglycerides are one of the three legs of the 'metabolic syndrome' and thus a problem for nearly all type 2 diabetics. Drug treatments to lower them are not very effective, with statins, fibrates and niacin used, but not as effective as weight loss, exercise and glycæmic control.

Here endeth the lesson, and sorry for the diphthongs. I did learn the simplified norte americano spelling, but am developing curmudgeonly tendencies in my old age.
Thanks for the lesson, very interesting. From my own blood lipid results, I have a discordancy that no doctor has been able to give me any insight on. My results are similar to Sulman's, but even more so. My triglycerides are extremely low, less than half the threshold of concern, and my HDL is in the optimum range. Yet my LDL is on the high side, especially for someone with CVD history. Do you know if this is highly unusual? Every doctor I've asked just shrugs and says I need to focus on the LDL. I was prescribed statins years ago after my stroke and they did keep my LDL's down even though I've only taken them sporadically, but with a recent elevation in my LDL, I've decided to go back to taking them as prescribed at least until I lose 20 lb.

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Super Tuesday Results:

100% of results counted.

1st place/ 50% of the vote/ Bloomberg

2nd place/ 29% of the vote/ Tulsi

3rd place/ 11% of the vote/ Elizabeth Warren





(American Samoa. Bloomberg had 7 paid staffers there. Total population: 55,000)

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Service Dog wrote:
Really? wrote: the David Silverman saga
I made it thru all 3 hours of Silverman's "he touched my lower back!!!" accuser, on the Dogma Debate podcast.
That Rebecca Vitsmun is a real piece of work.



I found the Atheism-Is-Unstoppable reaction-video... to be insightful in many ways... however many of AIU's interjections served only to make listening more unbearable. I didn't make it to the end of that version.
I too listened to the whole thing, and I may do it again. It is a tour into an alternate reality.

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screwtape wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Lesson over.
Not quite. Size matters, after all. We all know that oil and water don't mix, so how to transport fat in an aqueous medium, ie blood? Bind the cholesterol to a protein that is hydrophilic, making a lipoprotein. The resulting combination molecules can be large (HDL), small (LDL) and tiny (VLDL). The small and tiny molecules are capable of worming their way into the gaps between endothelial cells that line blood vessels, whereas the large ones are too big to fit. This is why HDL is 'good' cholesterol - it won't clog arteries. It doesn't clean your pipes out, but the more cholesterol is transported as HDL means less being moved around as LDL or VLDL. HDL also has some small effects on vessel wall inflammation, and may inhibit LDL deposition.
Thanks for that.

Is it inaccurate to identify HDL and LDL as having two seperate jobs, each equally important? Ie one to the liver and the other to the cells?

If that’s accurate, and if your fat readings are ok, is there any inherent issue with pattern A LDL? My understanding is it’s smaller than HDL but still too big to lodge in the blood vessels But above suggests otherwise. I also believe LDL size is on a spectrum and the arbitrary division into A and B is simplistic, but B is shorthand for compacted instances that deviate from the norm due to third party interference.

The topic is all very interesting and not what I heard a year ago from the doctor. He looked at a single cholesterol reading without breakdown and without further discussion wrote out a prescription. Which I carefully put aside while I reconsidered my approach.

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