Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 am
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Hmmm...
The UK political system holds Anjem Choudary totally innocent for anything which happened while he was in jail, and now he gets 2 million a year in police protection.
Yeah, I brought that up at WEIT, and got mobbed by the local SJWs for pushing a 'birther' style rightwing conspiracy theory.
I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?screwtape wrote: ↑I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
My interest in such matters tends to wane.
https://archive.is/WSYPF#selection-5765.0-5765.220IIRC, the brouhaha started with a post by Rationality Rules made shorty after RR appeared as a guest host on AXP. I believe the post concerned trans-women competing in the Olympics in women’s events. He was against that.
I would have just said: "I will soon welcome the day when all women's sport are dominated by virile she-men."MarcusAu wrote: ↑Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?screwtape wrote: ↑I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
It could in a certain light make you sound like a sarcastic bastard, or at least an insincere one.
It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.
Women will probably have to work out for themselves if the introduction of women to women's sport will give an unfair advantage where women dominate women in these activities.
Every group must put trans rights above all else. That is why Atheism+, the Reason Rally, March for Science, etc. all ended up being about diversity, inclusion and trans rights.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ LMAO
https://archive.is/WSYPF#selection-5765.0-5765.220IIRC, the brouhaha started with a post by Rationality Rules made shorty after RR appeared as a guest host on AXP. I believe the post concerned trans-women competing in the Olympics in women’s events. He was against that.
I would be delighted to have either adjective applied. You might want to check out the bastard part with my parents when you join them in the afterlife, though. I see my comment has still not appeared, so it must have been pre-emptively memory-holed. Wonderful how how PZ can tell in advance which of us and our thoughts must be suppressed for the greater good. If God were an asshole, he would be a pretty good simulacrum.
In that case sarcastic and insincere are exactly the same and I shall still have no grounds for complaint in either case. But if all positions are equal, why was the Dawk made PNG for the Dear Muslima letter? Ah, I see. The some are more equal than others part. Yes. Equal if we agree, less than dirt if we do not. Got it.
Isn't that the exact point of stereotypes? That they represent the likely nature of the group so described? And that intelligent people understand that individuals are not necessarily like the stereotypical norm that describes the whole group?Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Looks like I got banned from Heather Hastie's blog -- and called a racist in the process -- for observing that some stereotypes are accurate.
Apparently not when it comes to blacks, that's verboten. But blacks are notoriously stingy tippers, for one. So if you're a waitress, are you gonna bust your butt for a four-top of blacks? That particular table might not fit the stereotype, but if you heed it table after table, night after night, you won't waste your time & energy.screwtape wrote: ↑Isn't that the exact point of stereotypes? That they represent the likely nature of the group so described? And that intelligent people understand that individuals are not necessarily like the stereotypical norm that describes the whole group?Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Looks like I got banned from Heather Hastie's blog -- and called a racist in the process -- for observing that some stereotypes are accurate.
I prefer Jussie Smollett's lawyer, Tina Glandian.More interestingly (sorry, Matt), who else finds Marie Henein utterly, ravishingly hot? I would. Wouldn't you?
The 'could' gives me a bit a wiggle room. And the 'make you sound' was at worst tone policing. As to the afterlife - alternative arrangements may be in play so I may well not have the chance to meet up with the aforementioned antecedents.screwtape wrote: ↑I would be delighted to have either adjective applied. You might want to check out the bastard part with my parents when you join them in the afterlife, though. I see my comment has still not appeared, so it must have been pre-emptively memory-holed. Wonderful how how PZ can tell in advance which of us and our thoughts must be suppressed for the greater good. If God were an asshole, he would be a pretty good simulacrum.
In that case sarcastic and insincere are exactly the same and I shall still have no grounds for complaint in either case. But if all positions are equal, why was the Dawk made PNG for the Dear Muslima letter? Ah, I see. The some are more equal than others part. Yes. Equal if we agree, less than dirt if we do not. Got it.
That's not quite it. DM is that All Grievances are Equally Valid, with the caveat that they (of course) don't really think it anyway. (That could be said of most of their views. They're ready to jettison most anything when the opportunity arises to leverage something, anything, for power and influence. So trans grievance can be put on the front burner because they're the most vulnerable minority.) If DM were actually All Positions are Equally Important, then that would be an argument for Freeze Peach, and they're sure as hell not going to argue that.
I think the lesson here is that you don't go to war unless you are fully committed to fighting and possibly going down for your cause. I don't know what McInnis had in mind for the proud boys when he started them, but what he effectively did was to start a protest movement that rallies against feminism and promotes "western chauvinism". Its hard to imagine that he wouldn't expect pushback for that, and with the proud boys out holding rallies and scrapping with Antifa, it's easy for the media to find a place in the narrative for them. Interestingly, the proud boy ideology actually isn't all that extreme, it basically seems to be that western culture is awesome, that there is some value in traditional gender roles, and that anti-racism and feminism are extreme reactions to non-issues.
Wow. That's a striking resemblance to Miss Piggy if I've ever seen one.
from 2015...Glory Days...DW Adams wrote: ↑ Also while looking around, found this:
https://voyagestothebottomofthesea.word ... slyme-pit/
He really seems to hate comcinc (or however its spelled).
I'm sure Bhurzum would be happy to shove his hand up her muppet hole and make her sing.
I can remember when this was nothing but trees...MarcusAu wrote: ↑from 2015...Glory Days...DW Adams wrote: ↑ Also while looking around, found this:
https://voyagestothebottomofthesea.word ... slyme-pit/
He really seems to hate comcinc (or however its spelled).
Not for me, chef, it looks a bit too...well, y'know.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑I'm sure Bhurzum would be happy to shove his hand up her muppet hole and make her sing.
That's stupid even by Mehta's low standards. As a Jewish kid growing up in rural Oklahoma, going to Temple wasn't practical - the nearest one was ~30 miles away. However, my parents thought I needed to be exposed to some religion, so I went to the nearby Methodist church, which was (a) overtly evangelical, (b) very into the whole "God is love" deal, not to mention (c) Entirely welcoming to, albeit a bit puzzled by me.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:04 amOkay, I'm not banned at Heather Hastie's, I just got modded while being investigated for racism.
I'm still gunning though to get banned by that pretentious little twat, Heidi Mehta.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... 4549047142
:doh:Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.DW Adams wrote: ↑ Look out, Wu is making progress.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/bria ... atic-party
I heard that she was unwell. Apparently she had a frog in her throat.
Ah Yes... my memories of Sunday Assembly coming back to me. I was very active in the Detroit Sunday assembly. I directed the music, held the band practices, hosted and ran the book club. But, the people who were self appointed leaders were SJW retards. They would spurn members who didn't have the correct way of thinking. They were Fem bot creeps. I tried to include everyone which was a wild mix of libertarian leaning atheists, and woo woo spiritualists, and religion haters, etc. The theme was that they were "radically inclusive" but what this turned into was "mega-progressives only". One guy was told to leave because he posted a picture of himself on Facebook in his father's US Army Ranger uniform. The bitches that "ran" thing were scared.... and I'm like... "He is proud of his father's service in the military" and they concluded that he was a threat. Haha.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Heidi Mehta's outdone herself with this one:
Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
:doh:Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.Driftless wrote: ↑So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.DW Adams wrote: ↑ Look out, Wu is making progress.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/bria ... atic-party
Imagine Wu and AOC having an argument, bugging eyes and all. It'd look like two fucking mutant lizards fighting over a piece of rotten apple.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.Driftless wrote: ↑So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.DW Adams wrote: ↑ Look out, Wu is making progress.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/bria ... atic-party
It is inevitable that Trump will insult here, just like he has insulted the other four. Imagine the news conference where she fires back.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: ↑Imagine Wu and AOC having an argument, bugging eyes and all. It'd look like two fucking mutant lizards fighting over a piece of rotten apple.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.Driftless wrote: ↑So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.DW Adams wrote: ↑ Look out, Wu is making progress.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/bria ... atic-party
IMO this is probably the reason for Peezus's attemted redefinition of "atheism", and his screeds about "dictionary atheists". A lack of belief in god doesn't make a community, and doesn't imply any kind of shared values. I guess it's too bad for PZ that you can't force this kind of cohesion by engaging in bad philosophical arguments about what should logically follow from a lack of belief in God.John D wrote: ↑Ah Yes... my memories of Sunday Assembly coming back to me. I was very active in the Detroit Sunday assembly. I directed the music, held the band practices, hosted and ran the book club. But, the people who were self appointed leaders were SJW retards. They would spurn members who didn't have the correct way of thinking. They were Fem bot creeps. I tried to include everyone which was a wild mix of libertarian leaning atheists, and woo woo spiritualists, and religion haters, etc. The theme was that they were "radically inclusive" but what this turned into was "mega-progressives only". One guy was told to leave because he posted a picture of himself on Facebook in his father's US Army Ranger uniform. The bitches that "ran" thing were scared.... and I'm like... "He is proud of his father's service in the military" and they concluded that he was a threat. Haha.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Heidi Mehta's outdone herself with this one:
Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
:doh:Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
I think we lacked wise leadership. I don't know where this wise leadership comes from. Ministers are trained in wise leadership.
But, really, when it is all done and said, secular groups simply lack cohesion. They have no sense of shared commitment. I went to a Catholic wedding last week. I have lots of Catholic friends. and... while they are all very different, they have a sense that their shared spirituality makes them part of a club... a cohesive family... a family with some foundational beliefs.
As far as catholics go - most of them do not follow the doctrine or even pay much attention to what the clergy tell them to think. A large percentage of them are even progressive on issues like divorce or abortion (which they should find problematic if they were paying attention).Old_ones wrote: ↑ IMO this is probably the reason for Peezus's attemted redefinition of "atheism", and his screeds about "dictionary atheists". A lack of belief in god doesn't make a community, and doesn't imply any kind of shared values. I guess it's too bad for PZ that you can't force this kind of cohesion by engaging in bad philosophical arguments about what should logically follow from a lack of belief in God.
To your point about wise leadership, at least part of that has to be actual inclusivity. The SJWs are always on about how "inclusive" they are, but as you illustrated, they are hypervigilant about rooting out and excluding anyone with thoughtcrime against progressivism. Its ironic to me that a bunch of people like PZ, who are often very critical of Christianity, embody the holier-than-thou Christian stereotype so well. Nobody feels comfortable in a place where they have to walk on eggshells all the time, and no community is going to grow if you have to be perfect to join it.
I've never really tried attending this sort of Sunday meeting for secular people, because I was afraid it would basically be what you described. The closest thing I've found to that was when I started training BJJ around a year ago. You can train at the school I go to as long as you aren't a dick (by non-SJW standards) or a pussy (which keeps all the SJWs out). Some of the people I train with actually describe the place as their "church", I assume because of the community, and because it is where they go to turn their brains off. A lot of the guys I train with are religious (maybe even conservative) but they are still willing to accept a heathen like me.