Periodic Table of Swearing

[franc]

Question that's never been asked. How do these serial victims manage to go to music festivals and survive?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Question that's never been asked. How do these serial victims manage to go to music festivals and survive?

I did ask this very question at Abbie's place, couple of months ago. No answer, though...

[EveryMan]

Sacha loses her keys at the mall, so franc tells her to retrace her steps...

but I'd never go to a mall...

It's the big store with the little stores inside, sweetie.

Let Unca Franc hold your keys next time, k?

[EveryMan]

Lovely wife-soon-to-be. She is the sweetest person. We never fight or argue (well, we do, but she's very smart and can outdo me anytime with ease).

She's also the main provider of incomes (music really doesn't pay). I stay at home and take care of the place. Can the knuckleheads at FTB wrap their head around such a concept?

Another thing on the long list of items Americans don't talk about.

All the happily married guys I know make way less money their wives.

[EveryMan]

Just look at the front page of reddit.com There it is. Atheism in the top bar. Where is the evidence that all the posters making sexist comments were made by atheists? Did someone go through and check a few to see if they were regular posters on /r/atheism ? Where is the evidence? This is akin to suggesting that all the commenters at Larry Moran's site http://sandwalk.blogspot.ca are all atheists.

I feel like I'm having a conversation with my teenage self.

Yes, if you look for bad shit, you will find it.

But, if you sort the good shit/bad shit, the good shit is actually the majority. See the top-rated reddit comments for example. Figured that shit out before I went to college. Given that Becky is 32 I think she's a lost cause.

I'll point out, again, that most of the 'trolls' are Omega males that have been brutally bullied by women their whole life. So what the femmies are experiencing on the InterNet is little more than blowback from female privilege.

But I won't say it serves them right. That would be tacky.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I really should stop writing on the internet when pissed. Any app for that?

Not an app, but obligatory xkcd comic

(FWIW I didn't think your "cranky" comments were bad)

That stuff would be awesome! Ok, maybe I'll just paste my comments through a voice generator before clicking "submit".

Everyman: about working wife and stay at home husband, it's really not that uncommon where I live. We are 50 kms away from the Italian border, I'm half Italian, and the culture there, despite Italian macho clichés, is mostly centered around the "woman of the house". The Mama always has the final word. She's the boss, the head honcho...etc (complete with other Zucker Bros dialogues).

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Ok, found the quote I was aiming for:

"Rex Kramer: But it's his ship now, his command. He's in charge, the boss, the head man, top dog, big cheese, a head honcho, number... "

Close enough.

[AndrewV69]

OK kiddies, put on your reading caps and pay attention:

The "this" words I have underlined are links. They lead to the three sites I have listed.

http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/08/0 ... d-no-data/

There is plenty of talk about race, ethnicity, and IQ available on the web but it is dominated by sites with lowbrow commentariats that are not very helpful, for example at one extreme sites like this and at the other occasional bouts at sites like this or this.

1st : Stormfront
2nd : http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/
3rd : http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/

That is all I have to say.

[SteveW68]

Gromit and tea... that is all

No Cheeeese...?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Gromit and tea... that is all

No Cheeeese...?

I second that. Well, except if you're lacto-intolerant, that is.

[franc]

OK kiddies, put on your reading caps and pay attention:

The "this" words I have underlined are links. They lead to the three sites I have listed.

http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/08/0 ... d-no-data/

"Second, there is so far no useful analysis from the “liberals” at all. (I use the L word following convention but I don’t think it is right: I am a liberal and most of them are not.)"

FUCK YEAH

Won't make the font flash. I feel so much less alone.

Thank you, you baboon sewer-mongers, for destroying liberalism and making it such an easy target for Faux News. Cunts.

[Scented Nectar]

Oh yes...

10. Ashley Miller's assaulter, who was thrown out of the meeting by DJ.

Oh yeah, the sexual harassment that did NOT get reported as a sexual harassment, and Ashley got mad that it was not reported as a sexual harassment, even though she also said that she never told them about the sexual part of it at the time!!! The sexual part was allegedly that the guy asked her for sex repeatedly, not taking no for an answer. I do hope she actually remembered at the time to actually SAY "no" to the guy, but let's not go there, and by 'there' I mean further into the territory of: Read My Mind, Menz!

Question that's never been asked. How do these serial victims manage to go to music festivals and survive?

Instead of going to music fests, they go to victim fests that happen to have music. And most of that music is not even music. It's, ugh, political folk music that reminds me of the kind of shit music that children tend to be subjected to. Link is to the festival that I went to 7 (I think) times to, as my annual vacation while in the old cult. It's basically a revival, but instead of for xtians, it's for feminists, esp lesbian separatist ones.

Damn! Should have posted a trigger warning to myself before posting the above paragraph. "wimmin's music" *shudder* Get out of my head, Meg Christian, Holly Near, Alix Dobkin, and you others! Ferron, you can stay because your music does not actually rape my ears, but the rest of you, shoo! scatter! off with you!

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Question that's never been asked. How do these serial victims manage to go to music festivals and survive?

Instead of going to music fests, they go to victim fests that happen to have music. And most of that music is not even music. It's, ugh, political folk music that reminds me of the kind of shit music that children tend to be subjected to. Link is to the festival that I went to 7 (I think) times to, as my annual vacation while in the old cult. It's basically a revival, but instead of for xtians, it's for feminists, esp lesbian separatist ones.

Damn! Should have posted a trigger warning to myself before posting the above paragraph. "wimmin's music" *shudder* Get out of my head, Meg Christian, Holly Near, Alix Dobkin, and you others! Ferron, you can stay because your music does not actually rape my ears, but the rest of you, shoo! scatter! off with you!

Shit, I didn't know it was this stupid. What kind of new-agey bullcrap is this? And this is what's happening to Atheism? Well, correction: FTB Atheism. The Dobkin one is quite frightening, in a way.

[Scented Nectar]

Sorry all, and trigger warning for an video ad for the feminist yearly revival I mentioned above. This hurt me more than it will hurt you. Now then, I must spend the rest of the day recovering.

[Scented Nectar]

Question that's never been asked. How do these serial victims manage to go to music festivals and survive?

Instead of going to music fests, they go to victim fests that happen to have music. And most of that music is not even music. It's, ugh, political folk music that reminds me of the kind of shit music that children tend to be subjected to. Link is to the festival that I went to 7 (I think) times to, as my annual vacation while in the old cult. It's basically a revival, but instead of for xtians, it's for feminists, esp lesbian separatist ones.

Damn! Should have posted a trigger warning to myself before posting the above paragraph. "wimmin's music" *shudder* Get out of my head, Meg Christian, Holly Near, Alix Dobkin, and you others! Ferron, you can stay because your music does not actually rape my ears, but the rest of you, shoo! scatter! off with you!

Shit, I didn't know it was this stupid. What kind of new-agey bullcrap is this? And this is what's happening to Atheism? Well, correction: FTB Atheism. The Dobkin one is quite frightening, in a way.

That's a sample of the approved wimmins music that us harder core lesfemseparatists listened to in the 80s. Had to be a woman singing, and preferably a lesbian with a political message.

I have to give Holly Near a bit of a break though. She's done some songs for a lot more causes than just feminism. Here's one, where despite the folksy sound, the words are not bad, with an atheist theme (other than a new-agey mention of your 'higher power'):

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

There are good values in all these musical pieces. Lyrics may or may not be part of them. That last one by Near is catchy, and as a non-english speaker, I have the privilege of not listening to the lyrics (although I did, read the subs to be sure, and quite like most of them). Musically speaking, all these are fine. But come on! "Amazon Witches"?

[Za-zen]

Rw thinks the universe is in the process of becoming concious?

We've got another Leah on our hands, she's figured this allout by herself, by thinking really really hard about it, and since it's her thoughts and feelings on the matter they are aboslutely valid and should be treated with respect according to matt (im trying really hard to be a feminist) dillahunty.

Watson is a fuckwit, is she going through the stageof thinking she's a witch and putting spells on stones? Or moving towards eastern woo, i studied eastern woo for along timeand yes i was a fuckwit, you have to be to come out with statements like that, if she's at that stage of still in need for a spiritual connection to something, and not able to accept that she isn't shit and the universe doesn't know or give a fuck about her, i wouldn't be surprised. Someone with watson's ego could never accept that they mean fuck all.

Note for the fuckwits out there, this is not an expression of hate towards women, this is an expression of contempt for idiocy from a human being. There is a differnce, maybe you will discover it when you step outside of your screwed up ideology.

[DownThunder]

My impression of that wombyns music is that the music is merely a vessel or medium for the political message, rather than being about the music as an artform to be developed to an elite level.

[rayshul]

That's a sample of the approved wimmins music that us harder core lesfemseparatists listened to in the 80s. Had to be a woman singing, and preferably a lesbian with a political message.

I watched a clip on their site and there was not an unshaven pit among them. I don't even known what radical feminism IS any more.

Also noticed some Kiwis on there. Doin' us proud. Haha.

[Michael K Gray]

A wee bit of fatherly advice to those amongst you, who seem "pleasure-bent" on exhibiting novel "flashing" images, as were Christmas presents that actually came with batteries.[1]
There are some folk, (myself amongst them), who have a very real medical condition known as photo-phobic epilepsy.
(Not like the unreal and entirely fabricated first and last occurrence of the condition of Transient Prosopagnosia, that Beccy seems to have both invented, contracted, and been cured of in short order.)
But, take it from me, severely flashing images WILL trigger a seizure in a susceptible individual, mit is simply the severity of siezure that is the variable. From a simple "vagueing out at the traffic lights" at one end of the spectrum, to a full-blown Grand-Mal siezure at the other.
Listen. This is no joke. Not an attempt at humour.
No.
This shit really happens to susceptible people, and IT HURTS THEM! (Us)
We have to take at least 3 or 4 days off work, as a result.

Now that you have been made aware of the damage that you are doing through your carefree sport, give a mind to those that you are potentially forcing into a crippling seizure.
If you have never experienced one, then you are lucky.

Ixnay on the lachnayF, OK?

(Yes, we photo-phobics are a minority in the general population, but a majority in the elite geeks. Make of that what you will.)

As for bragging rights to equines:
http://www.michaelgray.com.au/Resources ... Shadow.jpg
My favourite mounr ( a thoroughbred gedling) On my farm.
http://www.michaelgray.com.au/Resources ... albyn1.jpg
http://www.michaelgray.com.au/Resources ... halbyn.jpg
(Both on a friends' horse-breakers' farm, in unbearably extreme heat on New Year's day. over 45C (~115F) in the shade. 60+ (~140F) in the sun.)

______________________
[1] "Christmas presents that actually came with batteries" is a new noir film script that I have in mind. An orgy set in the squalor of WW2 artillery trenches in Sweden.
[2] The only reason that I am posting this is because Sacha DID NOT ASK ME to do so. She was spot-on in assuming that had she asked me to any single thing, I would have immediately responded in the NEGATORY. And published photos of her neighbor's under-garments.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

As Menière afflicted as I am, I can only agree with MKG. Nothing is as bad* as some stupid smiley/flash/gif moving around in my eyesight while browsing/reading.






Guys (and gals), don't do that!


*Ok, things can be more bad. Don't RD me!

[Michael K Gray]

As Menière afflicted as I am, I can only agree with MKG.

Menière's disease in in the same league, but no where near in the same acute, versus chronic disabling characteristics as induced seizures.
The former is admittedly chronic, but the latter is utterly crippling, in the literal meaning.
Quite literal.
We are quite literally crippled for days.
Can't get out of bed "crippled".
No joke.

[BarnOwl]

@ MKG - Australia looks to be as hot and dry as central Texas. I'm hoping that TS Ernesto heads our way next week ... no joke. Parched and broiling here.

@ Scented Nectar - Your mention of the womyn's music festivals and Holly Near reminded me of my years in the Pacific NW and what a breathlessly sincere ingenue I was about the politics. Coffee came out my nose laughing at the memory.

Well if horse piccies are to be shared here's one of mine:


hotpens by BarnOwl83, on Flickr

That's my Thoroughbred mare at the front left - we were at a polocrosse tournament. Some here might know the sport ... it's an Australian invention, imported to Texas (and other parts of the US) by ex-pats.

[Dilurk]

And I noticed that Watson is bitching about people (just generic people) on Twitter:

I believe all humanity is part of a single remarkable universe becoming conscious of itself. But god I hate everyone on this plane.

She seems to do this every time she travels anywhere.

Its weird. I travel alone to conferences and hell, I flew to Antarctica-- I pretty much dont even notice other people. I try to be friendly and people are friendly in return (a smile and literally 3 words of English was all I needed in Argentina). She genuinely cannot interact with other humans on a normal level. Its weird.

Not too weird if she believes that type of new age crap. I've heard it before, usually with the excuse (when trying to sound not new-age woo) that it refers to the fact that since we are part of the universe, when we became conscious and aware of ourselves, we are therefore part of the universe discovering itself. Supposedly poetic. Still sounds like twaddle no matter who says it.

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

*ahem* Still, he was Carl Sagan, someone who had actually you know, done stuff.

[Michael K Gray]

@ MKG - Australia looks to be as hot and dry as central Texas. I'm hoping that TS Ernesto heads our way next week ... no joke. Parched and broiling here.

Yeah, pretty much, I guess. The 'greenery' in the scenery belies just how fucking HOT it was.My daughter eventually melted into a 44 Gallon drum of broiling bore water, and was mightily relieved, despite the non-gradient in Kelvin scales.
The greenery in these photos is a puzzle to me. It had not rained for at least 3 months.

That's my Thoroughbred mare at the front left - we were at a polocrosse tournament. Some here might know the sport ... it's an Australian invention, imported to Texas (and other parts of the US) by ex-pats

How olde was the mare, if I may be so bold as to enquire?

[GenerallyFading]

Afternoon all

Just logged into Hotmail and have received a spam email from (supposedly) the following address :-

contact-2648@babooniwf.com

Is this an attack from some unethical baboon who's handed my email address to a spammer, or am I simply being paranoid?

I'm not particulalry worried, as all addresses I don't recognise specifically get junked, but I am pissed off if my details have been handed out and FURIOUS at these disgsuting spammers (the mails are all to do with helping people, so I did begin looking at them without clicking on any links) whether they are baboons or not.

I'd really appreciate some feedback if others have experienced the same.

[GenerallyFading]

Bugger, Lsuomo, can you make that link not viable??

Ahhhhh! I'm having huge problems with this site today!!!

[Scented Nectar]

There are good values in all these musical pieces. Lyrics may or may not be part of them. That last one by Near is catchy, and as a non-english speaker, I have the privilege of not listening to the lyrics (although I did, read the subs to be sure, and quite like most of them). Musically speaking, all these are fine. But come on! "Amazon Witches"?

The Holly Near one is pretty good, but if the lyrics had been all womanpowerblahblah, I wouldn't like it, despite the tune actually being catchy. Her voice is nice to my ears too, have to admit. My beef with all of them was the radfem message of the 80s that they all sang to the tune of, so to speak.

Oh we were all hungry for female magic power words back then. Amazon, witch, all good because they had some sort of power and were women. One word versions of those new age lists of 'power affirmations' (I am strong, I am a survivor, I am a fighter, I am worthy, I am blahblah, ugh, *vomits* sorry).

At that Michigan festival, there was a small store near the night stage. It was called the Cuntry Store. It's ok to say it and use it as long as you're not male, I guess.

Only good thing about the festival, was that all clothing was optional, and I really enjoyed being naked outdoors.

That's a sample of the approved wimmins music that us harder core lesfemseparatists listened to in the 80s. Had to be a woman singing, and preferably a lesbian with a political message.

I watched a clip on their site and there was not an unshaven pit among them. I don't even known what radical feminism IS any more.

Also noticed some Kiwis on there. Doin' us proud. Haha.

If you go to the festival, you'll probably still find unshaven pits, but I suspect more around the older crowd, or those visiting from parts of Europe where the norm is to not shave them.

[Michael K Gray]

Afternoon all
Just logged into Hotmail and have received a spam email from (supposedly) the following address :-
contact-2648@babooniwf.com
Is this an attack from some unethical baboon who's handed my email address to a spammer, or am I simply being paranoid?

Yep. Being paranoid.

[Za-zen]

Yup i second paranoid

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

As Menière afflicted as I am, I can only agree with MKG.

Menière's disease in in the same league, but no where near in the same acute, versus chronic disabling characteristics as induced seizures.
The former is admittedly chronic, but the latter is utterly crippling, in the literal meaning.
Quite literal.
We are quite literally crippled for days.
Can't get out of bed "crippled".
No joke.

I have to spend days (about 5 to 10 every month) lying in bed, having a bucket around to puke, and damning everyone in my life for producing any kind of noise or movement aroud me. Even the snake get's a bit of anger. I do admit I'm not suffering any seizures. That sounds horrible (no, I don't mean you sound/are horrible).

These types of illness suck, and I'm really sorry you have one as well.

To the point: animated smileys and flash pics will be received with utter beligerance!

[Za-zen]

If you want to get really worked up about it generallyfading you could write a blog post, greta xxxtina will probably even post about breaking into tears when she reads it. Opheila will blame it on dj grothe though

[BarnOwl]

@ MKG - Australia looks to be as hot and dry as central Texas. I'm hoping that TS Ernesto heads our way next week ... no joke. Parched and broiling here.

Yeah, pretty much, I guess. The 'greenery' in the scenery belies just how fucking HOT it was.My daughter eventually melted into a 44 Gallon drum of broiling bore water, and was mightily relieved, despite the non-gradient in Kelvin scales.
The greenery in these photos is a puzzle to me. It had not rained for at least 3 months.

That's my Thoroughbred mare at the front left - we were at a polocrosse tournament. Some here might know the sport ... it's an Australian invention, imported to Texas (and other parts of the US) by ex-pats

How olde was the mare, if I may be so bold as to enquire?

She was 18 years old then; 21 years old this year, and still going strong. My TB gelding is 15, and he also plays polocrosse. Both horses are off the track, and I played polo on them when they were younger. In late summer the polocrosse tournaments are played at night on a lighted field - typically starting around 8:00 PM, until midnight or so.

[Scented Nectar]

Here's a good article explaining lots I didn't know about Valerie Solanas. http://www.geoffreyfalk.com/wp_blog/?p=20543

[Michael K Gray]

She was 18 years old then; 21 years old this year, and still going strong. My TB gelding is 15, and he also plays polocrosse. Both horses are off the track, and I played polo on them when they were younger. In late summer the polocrosse tournaments are played at night on a lighted field - typically starting around 8:00 PM, until midnight or so.

How unutterably delightful that sounds!

[Michael K Gray]

Oh, and in regard to polo-mints, and pony-horses, and thoroughbread loaves, and all that — who can compare we few, we band of humans, we slymepitters, to those valiant city-cellar-dwellers of the Pharyngula-ilk, those ardent Philosophers who inform we mortals as to how to think, and what to think, those physically inert keyboard-jockeys who victoriously proclaim dominion over we mere rounded adults.
Yes, I'd like to see them mount a feisty equine.
(Preferably an unbroken stallion,as I have done).
Oh yes, another measure by which "we" might be distinguished from "them".
James Bond vs Hiram Holiday.

They'd be pig-rooted at the first jump.

[Michael K Gray]

You've gotta feel extra sorry for them there Polio-Ponies.

[franc]

Live it you cunts -

[BarnOwl]

Oh, and in regard to polo-mints, and pony-horses, and thoroughbread loaves, and all that — who can compare we few, we band of humans, we slymepitters, to those valiant city-cellar-dwellers of the Pharyngula-ilk, those ardent Philosophers who inform we mortals as to how to think, and what to think, those physically inert keyboard-jockeys who victoriously proclaim dominion over we mere rounded adults.
Yes, I'd like to see them mount a feisty equine.
(Preferably an unbroken stallion,as I have done).
Oh yes, another measure by which "we" might be distinguished from "them".
James Bond vs Hiram Holiday.

They'd be pig-rooted at the first jump.

Yeah, clambering clumsily atop a fiberglass dinosaur at the creationist museum is about as close as they get.

Seriously, though, has it occurred to the baboolies that men and women compete as equals in equestrian sports? That's true for team equestrian sports, such as polo and polocrosse, as well - the exception being collegiate polo in the US (separate men's and women's teams).

[Scented Nectar]

An old, old, tale from my cult days for my dear captive audience at the Pit. Holly Near came to Toronto to play (there was a wimmin's/dyke's music circuit in the 80s). I was a volunteer with an org (or charity? or business? not sure what the fuck it was) called Womynly Way Productions. They brought lesfem performers to town. Me and a couple other volunteers made a meal for the performer (and entourage?) and we got to see the shows free. Also volunteered was most of the ingredients which we brought with us. We prepared the meals in the kitchen of the church that WW rented office space from (and performance space was often in the church itself).

I had a friend back then, who had an almost obsessive crush on Holly Near. She begged me to get her in on volunteering for that show. So, I got Ruth who ran WW to say ok. When my friend realized that she wouldn't even be seeing, let alone get to talk to, Holly Near, she threw a bit of a fit. I can't remember the details, but I think she either stormed out or got thrown out. I guess she assumed that the food prep volunteers got to serve it too, or hang out in some respect with the performer. Nope. Although one time, (I wish I could remember who it was) I did happen to be in the same room as a performer, who told me she really liked my salad. I then had a smile that must have lasted a week.

Thanks Franc. I am finished with the wimmmin's muzac in my head, and that song you posted drove that last bits of it out.

[Lsuoma]

The 'greenery' in the scenery belies just how fucking HOT it was.

Hot enough to boil a monkey's bum, Your Majesty.

[Michael K Gray]

Oh, and in regard to polo-mints, and pony-horses, and thoroughbread loaves, and all that — who can compare we few, we band of humans, we slymepitters, to those valiant city-cellar-dwellers of the Pharyngula-ilk, those ardent Philosophers who inform we mortals as to how to think, and what to think, those physically inert keyboard-jockeys who victoriously proclaim dominion over we mere rounded adults.
Yes, I'd like to see them mount a feisty equine.
(Preferably an unbroken stallion,as I have done).
Oh yes, another measure by which "we" might be distinguished from "them".
James Bond vs Hiram Holiday.

They'd be pig-rooted at the first jump.

Yeah, clambering clumsily atop a fiberglass dinosaur at the creationist museum is about as close as they get.

Seriously, though, has it occurred to the baboolies that men and women compete as equals in equestrian sports? That's true for team equestrian sports, such as polo and polocrosse, as well - the exception being collegiate polo in the US (separate men's and women's teams).

Indeed.
If ever there was a vigorous athletic Olympic sport that was utterly dominated by the female of the human species, surely Equestrianism would rank utmost, eh?
Would it would be cheap of me to ask the Skepchix as to their equestrienne pedigrees?
(The auto-emasculated males whom they have acquired as supportive detritus buttressing their parasitic cause are also voluntary equestriennes, by dint of their submission to Beccy's will)

Or their "anything-related-to-strenuous-physical-exertion-that-is-not-bitching" bona fides?

[Michael K Gray]

The 'greenery' in the scenery belies just how fucking HOT it was.

Hot enough to boil a monkey's bum, Your Majesty.

That was quoth by a Pom, I'll have you know.
It was FAR hotter than a Monkey's Bum.
(Unless the primate in question is the Andean Singeing Yellow/Brown Gibbon, which is known to have exceeded anal probe readings of 252.04 C.
(In an oven)

No, Sir: It was officially "Intercoursingly HOT" on that day.
I can fake a telegram from The Queen of Australia to say as much.

[Badger3k]

And I noticed that Watson is bitching about people (just generic people) on Twitter:

I believe all humanity is part of a single remarkable universe becoming conscious of itself. But god I hate everyone on this plane.

She seems to do this every time she travels anywhere.

Its weird. I travel alone to conferences and hell, I flew to Antarctica-- I pretty much dont even notice other people. I try to be friendly and people are friendly in return (a smile and literally 3 words of English was all I needed in Argentina). She genuinely cannot interact with other humans on a normal level. Its weird.

Not too weird if she believes that type of new age crap. I've heard it before, usually with the excuse (when trying to sound not new-age woo) that it refers to the fact that since we are part of the universe, when we became conscious and aware of ourselves, we are therefore part of the universe discovering itself. Supposedly poetic. Still sounds like twaddle no matter who says it.

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

*ahem* Still, he was Carl Sagan, someone who had actually you know, done stuff.

Everyone slips up sometimes. As you said, he more than made up for it with the good he's done. Rebecca Choprason, not so much.

[Michael K Gray]

Carl seems to have been sucked in to the Quantum Nonsense as expoused by Frank Wheeler.
Utter garbage, and amplified mitake, taken to extremes.
One where only "consciousness" could "collapse the waveform" (spit) and make the potential "real".
Utter shit.
If it were true, we would have an accurate and sharp detector of consciousness:
Is a macaque conscious?
Test it with Wheeler's bogus collapsing mechanism!
Is a bacterium conscious?
Test it with Wheeler's bogus collapsing mechanism!
Is a pebble conscious?
Test it with Wheeler's bogus collapsing mechanism!

Hoh yes. The more one learns about Quantum Physics, the more naked the Wheeler-like Emperors become!

And this seems to to be the dominant paradigm to this day, amongst the more cult-like adherents.
Schrodinger's Cattiness? You bet!

Most popular proponents are dribbling shit when it comes to Quantum Indeterminacy, and Schrodinger's Donger, including Hawking, (but never Feynman who was, surprisingly, one of Wheeler's disciples)

[BarnOwl]

@ MKG - My impression is that FfTBers eschew sport, both as participants and spectators, as a point of intellectual pride.

Or sheer laziness, more like.

Greta has a recycled post up on the Olympics, but that's about it over there.

Speaking of recycled, I've got to get ready to drive downtown to drop off some art supplies and various recyclables for an arts program they have in the public schools here. They're taking art and nature magazines, Altoids tins, coffee cans, leftover yarn, plastic bottles, etc. for school kids to use in art projects.

[JAB]

And I noticed that Watson is bitching about people (just generic people) on Twitter:

I believe all humanity is part of a single remarkable universe becoming conscious of itself. But god I hate everyone on this plane.

She seems to do this every time she travels anywhere.

Its weird. I travel alone to conferences and hell, I flew to Antarctica-- I pretty much dont even notice other people. I try to be friendly and people are friendly in return (a smile and literally 3 words of English was all I needed in Argentina). She genuinely cannot interact with other humans on a normal level. Its weird.

Not too weird if she believes that type of new age crap. I've heard it before, usually with the excuse (when trying to sound not new-age woo) that it refers to the fact that since we are part of the universe, when we became conscious and aware of ourselves, we are therefore part of the universe discovering itself. Supposedly poetic. Still sounds like twaddle no matter who says it.

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

*ahem* Still, he was Carl Sagan, someone who had actually you know, done stuff.

I dunno... I didnat hear Sagan in RW's tweet as much as I heard Ekhart Tolle. Oprah would be proud of RW.

[Tigzy]

Oh, and in regard to polo-mints, and pony-horses, and thoroughbread loaves, and all that — who can compare we few, we band of humans, we slymepitters, to those valiant city-cellar-dwellers of the Pharyngula-ilk, those ardent Philosophers who inform we mortals as to how to think, and what to think, those physically inert keyboard-jockeys who victoriously proclaim dominion over we mere rounded adults.
Yes, I'd like to see them mount a feisty equine.
(Preferably an unbroken stallion,as I have done).
Oh yes, another measure by which "we" might be distinguished from "them".
James Bond vs Hiram Holiday.

They'd be pig-rooted at the first jump.

Well, I find horses friggin scary. Dated this crazy lady once, who had a thing for horses - accompanied her to the local stables one time, and I didn't realise these thoroughbred Arabians were a shit lot bigger than they appear on the TV. They also have disturbingly expressive faces. It was feeding time, so all these horses started kicking the fuck out of their doors, too. Weirdly enough, all the staff were women - and they didn't give much of a tinker's toot about the fact that all these monsters were going a bit mental like. I just wanted to get out of there.

I now smile slyly to myself whenever I see glue or dogfood.

[Dilurk]

Gromit and tea... that is all

No Cheeeese...?

I second that. Well, except if you're lacto-intolerant, that is.

That's because they are the wrong trousers.

[Michael K Gray]

It is becoming quite palpable to me (at least) that the signal distinction between the tribes of the FfTBers versus the Sl(i)ymeptters is that of worldly experience[1].
One group has it, the other does not.
Now, if one takes as an axiom that "worldly experience" is a "good thing", then should we elders not be attempting to educate the Young Turks, or more to the point, should they not be welcoming same?
_________________________
[1] With which comes innate modalities with which to deal with immaturity. Such has been the case since before recorded history.
[2] I make no apologies for the ejaculative burst of posts.

[Michael K Gray]

Well, I find horses friggin scary.

A very wise attitude.
Those equestrians who become blasé about the sheer power of their beasts usually wind up in either hospital or a morgue.
One MUST be wary of such a non-robotic beast.
They can read you fucking mind, that's for sure!

[Dilurk]

Lovely wife-soon-to-be. She is the sweetest person. We never fight or argue (well, we do, but she's very smart and can outdo me anytime with ease).

She's also the main provider of incomes (music really doesn't pay). I stay at home and take care of the place. Can the knuckleheads at FTB wrap their head around such a concept?

My daughter is a professional musician. I learned from her the reality of it. There isn't a lot of money in it as you say. Fortunately she does have a teaching gig which helps a lot.

[Tigzy]

Well, I find horses friggin scary.

A very wise attitude.
Those equestrians who become blasé about the sheer power of their beasts usually wind up in either hospital or a morgue.
One MUST be wary of such a non-robotic beast.
They can read you fucking mind, that's for sure!

I think one of the most disturbing things that happened to me as regards the equine breed occurred when I was out camping in the New Forest once, and one of those spoilt bastard New Forest ponies tried backing its arse into my tent. I ran out in the hope of shooing it away - how one shoos away a beast like that, I had no idea, but I was prepared to improvise at that point - only to find the animal had a raging hard-on. Thankfully, it ambled away, and the arse-print in the fabric of my tent didn't last.

[Za-zen]

I learned to ride in my teens, at a friends place, he had four or five horses, and the training consisted of getting on the horse, falling off, or sometimes jumping off, until i learned how to not fall off anymore, and gained the confidence not to jump off. Started doing small jumps my second day on a horse, and up over some crazy incline mounds he'd built.

One of the best experiences of my life, and i've done quite a bit. I haven't ridden in years though.

[GenerallyFading]

If you want to get really worked up about it generallyfading you could write a blog post, greta xxxtina will probably even post about breaking into tears when she reads it. Opheila will blame it on dj grothe though

EXcellent idea! I'll go off an troll DJ to show support. Oh, no wait....

Cheers for that all. I'm just going mad. Much more comforting.

[sacha]

As Menière afflicted as I am, I can only agree with MKG. Nothing is as bad* as some stupid smiley/flash/gif moving around in my eyesight while browsing/reading.

Guys (and gals), don't do that!


*Ok, things can be more bad. Don't RD me!

A proposition (hah). I can deal with smilies, if they don't flash or move too much. Perhaps we can go with as many smilies as others want, but none that flash or move in a distracting way? I had a look at the smilies available. Gromit is there! And Hobbes!

On the "compose a comment" page, all are fairly calm up to the "clap", which looks as though it flashes. I'm sure there is a violin player out there somewhere that does not move, since that seems to be one of the favourites.

I have the smilies blocked, so it really does not matter to me any longer, although the banana emoticons seem to get through the block (WTF?). Does anyone really need their emoticons to distract from the actual words on the page?

[sacha]

BTW, you are not yet another Canadian slymepitter ? I thought that I would meet different cultures from around the world on the internet, I spend all my time talking to fellow Canadians and Australians.

The thread is in English, so most of the participants are Canadian, Merkin, and British, but not all. I know of French, Italian, and German posters here.

My apologies, you Kiwis. I thought I included you in the Canadian, Merkin, British, and Australian, but it never went from my thought to the page.

[EveryMan]

I have the smilies blocked, so it really does not matter to me any longer, although the banana emoticons seem to get through the block (WTF?). Does anyone really need their emoticons to distract from the actual words on the page?

[astrokid.nj]

Only good thing about the festival, was that all clothing was optional, and I really enjoyed being naked outdoors.

Interesting.. Didn't you guys also have some outdoorsy-work activities (i.e DIY to signify separatism from males)? I recently bumped into this image, and was wondering where on earth it came from. The tag says 'International Women's Working Day' and I couldn't find any exact matches on google.

International Women's Working Day.jpg

Also, poor Becky.. I think she needs an "absolute-equality" date to break her connection with the universe and bring her back to earth.

[Badger3k]

As Menière afflicted as I am, I can only agree with MKG. Nothing is as bad* as some stupid smiley/flash/gif moving around in my eyesight while browsing/reading.

Guys (and gals), don't do that!


*Ok, things can be more bad. Don't RD me!

A proposition (hah). I can deal with smilies, if they don't flash or move too much. Perhaps we can go with as many smilies as others want, but none that flash or move in a distracting way? I had a look at the smilies available. Gromit is there! And Hobbes!

On the "compose a comment" page, all are fairly calm up to the "clap", which looks as though it flashes. I'm sure there is a violin player out there somewhere that does not move, since that seems to be one of the favourites.

I have the smilies blocked, so it really does not matter to me any longer, although the banana emoticons seem to get through the block (WTF?). Does anyone really need their emoticons to distract from the actual words on the page?

I use the smileys to enhance the words. I use them to try to get emotions across clearer than words can - try to eliminate the possible confusion that could be caused as some words can be taken many ways. Instead of spending sentences to try to explain or make sure the meaning is clear, a smiley can work to get it across much easier. I always thought that's why they developed. I do admit that I like them, think they are fun, and have sometimes used them for pure amusement. The stick-poking one I used in the comment on Laden (IIRC - I'm having a reaction to my meds and feel like I'm drunk now, so I may be wrong) was for fun and it described what I was doing (sort of - it would be more effective if I did it on his page, but no way in hell am I going there). Having trouble concentrating, but I hope my words are clear.

[Badger3k]

Only good thing about the festival, was that all clothing was optional, and I really enjoyed being naked outdoors.

Interesting.. Didn't you guys also have some outdoorsy-work activities (i.e DIY to signify separatism from males)? I recently bumped into this image, and was wondering where on earth it came from. The tag says 'International Women's Working Day' and I couldn't find any exact matches on google.

International Women's Working Day.jpg

Owwwww. I've worked with chainsaws. Even just thinking of the chips and dust - no way would I be naked near that. Anyone who does that is either insane or dedicated. Either way, I'm impressed - I couldn't do it.

[AndrewV69]

My partner is working, so Im bored, cruising the intraweb-- This video just made me giggle. Cute kid:

Reminds me of the time my Goddaughter was 5 years old. At the top of a long flight of steps, she put her hands up into the air and without any hesitation stepped off.

I just barely managed to grab her hands, and we made it down the steps without incident.

However,

The absolute trust she displayed literally took my breath away. I was so shaken I was literally trembling from the adrenaline shot by the time we got to the bottom of the steps.

My earliest memory goes back to when I was learning to walk (this is apparently unusual), but I can not recall ever trusting anyone, not even my parents to that degree.

Bah. Actually I lie. I remember now, I trusted my ex-wife.

[bhoytony]

I use the smileys to enhance the words. I use them to try to get emotions across clearer than words can - try to eliminate the possible confusion that could be caused as some words can be taken many ways. Instead of spending sentences to try to explain or make sure the meaning is clear, a smiley can work to get it across much easier. I always thought that's why they developed. I do admit that I like them, think they are fun, and have sometimes used them for pure amusement. The stick-poking one I used in the comment on Laden (IIRC - I'm having a reaction to my meds and feel like I'm drunk now, so I may be wrong) was for fun and it described what I was doing (sort of - it would be more effective if I did it on his page, but no way in hell am I going there). Having trouble concentrating, but I hope my words are clear.

Sorry, not clear, could you clarify that with smilies?

[Badger3k]

I use the smileys to enhance the words. I use them to try to get emotions across clearer than words can - try to eliminate the possible confusion that could be caused as some words can be taken many ways. Instead of spending sentences to try to explain or make sure the meaning is clear, a smiley can work to get it across much easier. I always thought that's why they developed. I do admit that I like them, think they are fun, and have sometimes used them for pure amusement. The stick-poking one I used in the comment on Laden (IIRC - I'm having a reaction to my meds and feel like I'm drunk now, so I may be wrong) was for fun and it described what I was doing (sort of - it would be more effective if I did it on his page, but no way in hell am I going there). Having trouble concentrating, but I hope my words are clear.

Sorry, not clear, could you clarify that with smilies?

[Scented Nectar]

astrokid.nj, that picture could possibly be some of the festie women doing some sort of log clearing, although, unprepared if so. They had hardhats, noise protection and boots, but none of them had work gloves or goggles. Could have been a staged photo (and taken at the festival).

[tachikoma]

Here's a good article explaining lots I didn't know about Valerie Solanas. http://www.geoffreyfalk.com/wp_blog/?p=20543

Heh

(I was gobsmacked when I read on the Slymepit, yesterday or the day before, about Solanas having tried to kill someone. Curiosity got the better of me, and during a break at work I consulted Wikipedia. Just about fell off my chair when that “someone” turned out to be Andy Warhol.)

One of the sources of the Wikipedia article on Solanas is the Outlaw Bible on American Literature, which says:

After going into police custody, Solanas was brought before the Manhattan Criminal Court where she told the judge, "It's not often that I shoot someone. I didn't do it for nothing. Warhol had tied me up, lock, stock and barrel. He was going to do something to me which would have ruined me." She told the judge she would represent herself and she declared that she was "right in what I did! I have nothing to regret!" The judge would strike her comments from the record and send her to Bellevue Hospital for psychiatric observation.

The shooting itself, quoting the Wikipedia version with some details I added from the Outlaw Bible:

Around noon Solanas arrived at The Factory and waited for Warhol outside...She entered the Factory with Warhol and he complimented her on her look...The phone rang and Warhol took the call as Morrissey went to the bathroom. While Warhol was on the phone, Solanas shot at him three times. The first two shots missed, and the third went through his left lung, spleen, stomach, liver, esophagus and finally his right lung. She then shot art critic Mario Amaya in the right hip, and tried to shoot Warhol's manager Fred Hughes in the head point blank, but her gun jammed. Hughes asked her to leave ("Oh, there's the elevator. Why don't you get on, Valerie?" She replied "That's a good idea" and left). Warhol was taken, clinically dead, to Columbus Hospital and operated on by five doctors for five hours, which narrowly saved his life.

1. Unless she was metaphorically talking about how she thought Warhol appropriated her work or her acting, Solanas was lying about being tied up at the time of the shooting or at any time.
2. It was a good thing that the judge did not just LISTEN TO THE WOMAN.
3. The conversation between Hughes and Solanas in the end of the shooting is pretty surreal.
4. I'm surprised Falk did not know this. Solanas is a pretty useful talking point in any anti-feminist's arsenal. Of course, it is of limited use since "feminism is not a monolith" and "we are not extreme like that" and "Solanas was just a nutter/was supposedly abused in her childhood" and so on.
5. If the "after murder attempt" section of the Wikipedia article is to be believed (no, I didn't chase down and verify all the references cited), feminists still defended Solanas after the shooting. So they didn't immediately distance themselves from her after the shooting like I said before.

Feminist Robin Morgan (later editor of Ms. magazine) demonstrated for Solanas's release from prison. Ti-Grace Atkinson, the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women (NOW), described Solanas as "the first outstanding champion of women's rights" and as "a 'heroine' of the feminist movement", and "smuggled [her manifesto] ... out of the mental hospital where Solanas was confined." Another NOW member, Florynce Kennedy, called her "one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement."

[bhoytony]

[tachikoma]

International Women's Working Day.jpg

Owwwww. I've worked with chainsaws. Even just thinking of the chips and dust - no way would I be naked near that. Anyone who does that is either insane or dedicated.

Or fucking stupid.

I had a look at the smilies available. Gromit is there! And Hobbes!

Wow, 10 pages. I don't think I could be arsed to page through it every time I want some obscure smilie.

[AndrewV69]

Ouch guys, please avoid the flashing ones. The bouncing ones are OK but the flashing stuff depending on the size leave me with anything from an afterimage to a shap pain.

(I may just turn the smiles off after all).

[JAB]

Bah. Actually I lie. I remember now, I trusted my ex-wife.

I made that mistake, too

[bhoytony]

Ouch guys, please avoid the flashing ones. The bouncing ones are OK but the flashing stuff depending on the size leave me with anything from an afterimage to a shap pain.

(I may just turn the smiles off after all).

How's this?

[JAB]

Bah. Actually I lie. I remember now, I trusted my ex-wife.

I made that mistake, too

Actually, that isn't clear. I don't know your exwife... I was refering to my exwife... I don't know if I could have made that clearer with a smilie, but I'm not going to try.

[Scented Nectar]

Tachikoma, one of the youtubers likes to brag that she has an autographed copy of SCUM Manifesto. Solanas is totally lauded for it, due to their hatred of men, and they totally ignore that she shot them out of greed, merely being suspicious that they were not ignoring her submitted scripts, but planning on stealing them for themselves. The shooting was not in rescue of a woman in danger, or any other hero-praise-worthy crap.

[tachikoma]

If you want to get really worked up about it generallyfading you could write a blog post, greta xxxtina will probably even post about breaking into tears when she reads it. Opheila will blame it on dj grothe though

EXcellent idea! I'll go off an troll DJ to show support. Oh, no wait....

Cheers for that all. I'm just going mad. Much more comforting.

NONONO you must get angry about how your concerns were mansplained and dismissed by Privileged White Males! It's proof that everyone else is free of spamming but you, and therefore they must be in on the Spammeriarchy!

What is this cheerful acceptance nonsense. What are you, some kind of gender traitor?!

(I love how "mansplained" gets the incorrect spelling red squiggle underneath it. Also, I started wondering what a "gender traitor" smilie would look like)

[Badger3k]

Ouch guys, please avoid the flashing ones. The bouncing ones are OK but the flashing stuff depending on the size leave me with anything from an afterimage to a shap pain.

(I may just turn the smiles off after all).

How's this?

Ok - how the hell did you do that? And how did you know I was working on a handlebar mustache?

Sorry about the flashing shocked - I wasn't thinking clearly on that. I normally try to avoid those anyway.