Periodic Table of Swearing

[Rystefn]

For the curious, I also come in blue.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8084 ... 1550b5.jpg

[rayshul]

Via Skepdirt

http://skepdirt.wordpress.com/2012/10/1 ... rom-nixon/

They've created a list of supporters so they don't have to read the #atheismplus hashtag. Good for them I think, if it's causing them to be upset, this is probably the best way to deal with it.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

So... how many military/ex-military folk do we have here, anyway? Because it seems like kind of a lot to me...

More than a few. Ex-USAF myself. Worked on B-1B radar jammers from '87-93. We got them fresh out of the factory. They really had a new car smell.

Saw one accidently squatting on its ass once.

Ex 11 Division Parachutiste, BOMAP (Base Opérationnelle Mobile Aéroporté), now renamed 1er RTP (Régiment du Train Parachutiste), Compagnie Technique, 3eme Section.

As mentioned earlier, I was a rigger.

[Mykeru]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8047/8084 ... 6b5b_z.jpg

[Lsuoma]

For the curious, I also come in blue.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8084 ... 1550b5.jpg

Half-Rystefn, half-Twatson...

[codelette]

Oh really, Twatson? *You* found 'huge problems' in the study that make *you*, personally, doubt the paper? Yes, actually, that study was BS, for actual reasons that dont require personal tastes/distastes. That is, you know, SCIENCE. Boy I tell you what the world REALLY needs more of is random assholes on the internet mindlessly repeating what others say about science, without actually knowing the science they profess to have an 'opinion' on. By all means, Twatson, tell us more about why that GMO study was bunk, with your expertly memorized opinions from others, you freethinker, you!

Reading this reminded me when I read this interview with Surly Amy (I wanted to know who the fuck she was and what was her background after TShirtGate). Read and laugh:

Sot.N: How did your interest in science begin?

I found out that one of the DVDs I had was complete bunk and the other one was right on the money
Amy: I think it’s… I had decided at some point… oh I remember. I had gotten a DVD, and it was supposed to be about physics but it was called What The Bleep Do We Know? and it turned out to be total pseudoscience, but I didn’t know it at the time, I thought it was a legitimate physics film. And I had decided that I wanted to learn about science, so I got that movie and I also purchased another DVD which was called The Elegant Universe, and it was hosted by Brian Greene who was an actual physicist. And so I watched both of these films and I was interested, but I didn’t really understand a lot of the science. So I went online to search for science and when I did that I stumbled across a couple different podcasts. One of them was Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe and the other was Skeptically Speaking, I think it was, or Skepticality. It was one of the other skeptical based podcasts and that was really… it opened all these doors for me and it showed me how to differentiate between legitimate science and pseudoscience and that’s why I found out that one of the DVDs I had was complete bunk and the other one was right on the money. And I just became more and more interested in the topics as time went on.

These idiots think than doing science is akin to being a motherfucking science cheerleader. It comes across as "Yay, science. Science is SO SO AWESOME! My sciency friends told me so."

[Rystefn]

For the curious, I also come in blue.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8084 ... 1550b5.jpg

Half-Rystefn, half-Twatson...

Hey, fuck you. I resemble that remark.

[rayshul]

I'm really uncomfortable listening to non science people lecture on science. There's a bloke here who talks on the telly a lot about "biology" although his training is not in biology, and several times in one show said things which were just not true, based on previously debunked information. I don't understand why people want to jump into another field so bad or want to seem somewhat authoratative on it.

Please note I'm not shitting on the efforts of people who are self-trained in science, like those who have legitimately gone out and run clinical trials etc (I'm reading through a series of interviews on AIDS in the early 80s), or other technically unqualified people who've done research themselves... I remember a few years ago a couple of school girls in Australia debunked a massive company's advertising campaign as part of a science project (turns out there's not that much Vitamin C in Ribena..).

[rayshul]

My first husband was military. I almost wound up working for the army here and probably should have, really... they were lovely people.

[mikelf]

The Mets? Seriously?

There's no proof that there's a God. However, the Yankees are proof Satan is alive and well. And coming from the seed of one of the biggest Brooklyn Dodgers fans, don't get me started on Walter O'Malley.

Loved Roger Kahn's "The Boys of Summer," however.......

Also, Game 6 of the 1986 World Series was one of the greatest baseball finishes EVAH.

...I would vote for the 1978 AL East one game playoff. One of the fondest memories of my childhood.

Which may say more about my childhood than I would normally reveal. :(

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Just flouting your hate around, all willy-nilly? You're just asking for trouble, now. Next thing you know, you'll be wearing eyeglasses. We all know what that means.

Thy wish is my command, good sir:

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo35 ... G_2515.jpg

I wear these glasses for reading only, which probably makes me a casual hater.

The only béret I own is my Red Béret.

[Al Stefanelli]

Just flouting your hate around, all willy-nilly? You're just asking for trouble, now. Next thing you know, you'll be wearing eyeglasses. We all know what that means.

Thy wish is my command, good sir:

I wear these glasses for reading only, which probably makes me a casual hater.

The only béret I own is my Red Béret.

Well, fuck all. NOW you've gone and done it. Here's a link for you:

http://www.wikihow.com/Hire-a-Bodyguard

[windy]

Let them try to figure out some of my stylin' headgear:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8083 ... 163e_z.jpg

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

[soldierwhy]

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

[SteveW68]

Responses to my request for screencaps:

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That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Surely you mean "hat, jungle, tropical, DPM"? :whistle:

[soldierwhy]

Surely you mean "hat, jungle, tropical, DPM"? :whistle:

Only if you're a blanket stacker matey... ;)

[Lsuoma]

I'm really uncomfortable listening to non science people lecture on science. There's a bloke here who talks on the telly a lot about "biology" although his training is not in biology, and several times in one show said things which were just not true, based on previously debunked information. I don't understand why people want to jump into another field so bad or want to seem somewhat authoratative on it.

Please note I'm not shitting on the efforts of people who are self-trained in science, like those who have legitimately gone out and run clinical trials etc (I'm reading through a series of interviews on AIDS in the early 80s), or other technically unqualified people who've done research themselves... I remember a few years ago a couple of school girls in Australia debunked a massive company's advertising campaign as part of a science project (turns out there's not that much Vitamin C in Ribena..).

[youtube]FB-JO2j7MEQ[/youtube]

[SteveW68]

Conveniently,

I don't have screen captures because we talked on the phone mostly.

fits both being a sockpuppet and the truth being told... *scratches freshly shaved chin*

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

[youtube]q7-TwyTc4nk[/youtube]

[JAB]

Well, I've never been in the military, but I've worked for them as a civilian, and one of my sons is a tech in the Signals Regiment, currently posted in Europe. (way nicer post than the two he spent in Afghanistan)

[Ape+lust]

I'm really uncomfortable listening to non science people lecture on science. There's a bloke here who talks on the telly a lot about "biology" although his training is not in biology, and several times in one show said things which were just not true, based on previously debunked information. I don't understand why people want to jump into another field so bad or want to seem somewhat authoratative on it.

Yeah, it's a pretty bad situation. The state of science journalism generally sucks. Unfortunately, there aren't enough scientists who take up the job of popularizer; they're just too busy or don't have the knack (which is why the likes of William Lane Craig so often "wins" in debates with scientists). But the one thing we certainly don't need is a bunch of party girls who never heard of Hitchens before 2005, or paid money for What the Bleep Do We Know, or "discovered" feminism scant years ago lecturing knowledgeable adults about skepticism, science, or "parroting misogynistic thought."

[Rystefn]

Hell, I'm more qualified to talk science than those bitches. At least my schooling (such as it is), is almost entirely in math and chemistry.

[Tigzy]

Sot.N: How did your interest in science begin?

I found out that one of the DVDs I had was complete bunk and the other one was right on the money
Amy: I think it’s… I had decided at some point… oh I remember. I had gotten a DVD, and it was supposed to be about physics but it was called What The Bleep Do We Know? and it turned out to be total pseudoscience, but I didn’t know it at the time, I thought it was a legitimate physics film. And I had decided that I wanted to learn about science, so I got that movie and I also purchased another DVD which was called The Elegant Universe, and it was hosted by Brian Greene who was an actual physicist. And so I watched both of these films and I was interested, but I didn’t really understand a lot of the science. So I went online to search for science and when I did that I stumbled across a couple different podcasts. One of them was Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe and the other was Skeptically Speaking, I think it was, or Skepticality. It was one of the other skeptical based podcasts and that was really… it opened all these doors for me and it showed me how to differentiate between legitimate science and pseudoscience and that’s why I found out that one of the DVDs I had was complete bunk and the other one was right on the money. And I just became more and more interested in the topics as time went on.

What I find fascinating about that is that $urly Amy doesn't once mention science books. Y'know, reading about it rather than watching podcasts and DVDs, where you can take your time and let it sink in. I'm not talking about techinical, specialist publications either - good, genuine popular science books for the layperson. My personal favourite is Dawkins' The Greatest Show on Earth. It is indeed a thing of great beauty. Marcus Chown's 'Quantum Theory Cannot Hurt You' is a good layperson's guide to...well, QT and relativity. It's tough stuff for me to get my head around, though, and find myself referring to it...well, quite a lot.

[rayshul]

Odd that the Slimepit is now in the position of attempting to exonerate RW. Haha.

Interesting subject matter of the twitterfeed which seems to focus on:

1) RW not being a wizard/magician
2) calling Jen pretty
3) saying no one wants to see Greta's bod using the naked revolutionaries calendar
4) some weird rapey stuff

It's not consistent with either the 'pit content or FtB ideas about what they say their group is attacked on. (Possibly the rapey stuff?) Particularly the naked revolutionaries calendar which seems to be one of the very few things the 'Pit agrees on and like Greta for.

This seems like a random to me.

[JackRayner]

So... how many military/ex-military folk do we have here, anyway? Because it seems like kind of a lot to me...

Ex 11 Division Parachutiste, BOMAP (Base Opérationnelle Mobile Aéroporté), now renamed 1er RTP (Régiment du Train Parachutiste), Compagnie Technique, 3eme Section.

As mentioned earlier, I was a rigger.

I think I had some riggers in my unit in Iraq. The company that we formed into while deployed had a "landing support" platoon. Mostly, this meant that they were exiled to the flight line to help with incoming cargo, since we had little use for them on convoy operations. This one time though, their platoon commander nagged our CO until he gave them some skill-relevant work. They took a few tons [American for "tonnes"] of cargo and prepared them to be air dropped. [That's part of rigging, correct?] Since I was one of the few suckers in my company with a license for the Mk.48 [and all of the trailer variants] I was part of the group that got snatched up and told to go pick it up and take it to the flight line. Below is a picture of the cargo, with the landing support and heavy equipment Marines getting it ready to be picked up and loaded onto a C-130:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... arV131.png

They sent the C-130 off, parachuted the cargo into one of our forward operating bases, and the mission was a success!.....and then they were never given the opportunity to do it again.

Our CO realized that all of the work that went into doing air drops was a waste when all it did was deliver the equivalent of two trucks' worth of supplies, at a time when our company was already sending 30+ vehicle convoys out on most days of the week! Like, why waste the effort that went into rigging the cargo, and put an expensive airplane and highly trained pilots [in comparison to us enlisted chumps and our dusty trucks*] at risk for two trucks' worth of cargo?

*Self-deprecation purely for the sake of humor. I don't look so lowly on my past profession...

[rayshul]

My favourite science author is Oliver Sacks. Oddly I've found maths tv shows and QT shows much more enlightening than books... I like the visualisations as I'm a very high-level thinker.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Conveniently,

I don't have screen captures because we talked on the phone mostly.

fits both being a sockpuppet and the truth being told... *scratches freshly shaved chin*

Put the chin away, this is nothing more than a really fucking nasty internet hatespewer, in the Markuze vein. I know we all had a chuckle at Ophelia's "threats" about going to a conference, but this is one person I'd be hammering at the police about if I were the unfortunate target.

And you can take that to the (wank) bank.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

My personal favourite is Dawkins' The Greatest Show on Earth. It is indeed a thing of great beauty.

Re-reading it for the third time, but I'm also on Hitch 22, which I just received as an anticipated xmas present.

[JackRayner]

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Interesting. We called it both a boonie cover and a jungle cover in the [U.S.] Marines. :)

[Tigzy]

My favourite science author is Oliver Sacks. Oddly I've found maths tv shows and QT shows much more enlightening than books... I like the visualisations as I'm a very high-level thinker.

Oh yes! 'The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat'. Fantastic book - though I do sometimes get the uncomfortable impression that he exploits his patients somewhat for material. I guess he puts it out there with their consent, though. In any case, it doesn't stop me from reading, nosey sod that I am. And I am fascinated by his idea that Hildegard of Bingen's ecstatic works were drawn from migraines, being prone to migraines with strong auras myself.

[Ape+lust]

Anyone who thinks hat wearing is the mark of uncool can step up and try to out-cool Tom Waits.

http://i.imgur.com/8onwu.jpg

[ReneeHendricks]

So... how many military/ex-military folk do we have here, anyway? Because it seems like kind of a lot to me...

Me - Gulf War - 39B (Automatic Test Equipment Operator/Maintainer - worked on circuit boards in Apache helicopters) and proud :)

[Rystefn]

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Interesting. We called it both a boonie cover and a jungle cover in the [U.S.] Marines. :)

That's because marines like to pretend that specialized vocabulary makes them specialists. :P

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

So... how many military/ex-military folk do we have here, anyway? Because it seems like kind of a lot to me...

Ex 11 Division Parachutiste, BOMAP (Base Opérationnelle Mobile Aéroporté), now renamed 1er RTP (Régiment du Train Parachutiste), Compagnie Technique, 3eme Section.

As mentioned earlier, I was a rigger.

I think I had some riggers in my unit in Iraq. The company that we formed into while deployed had a "landing support" platoon. Mostly, this meant that they were exiled to the flight line to help with incoming cargo, since we had little use for them on convoy operations. This one time though, their platoon commander nagged our CO until he gave them some skill-relevant work. They took a few tons [American for "tonnes"] of cargo and prepared them to be air dropped. [That's part of rigging, correct?] Since I was one of the few suckers in my company with a license for the Mk.48 [and all of the trailer variants] I was part of the group that got snatched up and told to go pick it up and take it to the flight line. Below is a picture of the cargo, with the landing support and heavy equipment Marines getting it ready to be picked up and loaded onto a C-130:

[snip image]

They sent the C-130 off, parachuted the cargo into one of our forward operating bases, and the mission was a success!.....and then they were never given the opportunity to do it again.

Our CO realized that all of the work that went into doing air drops was a waste when all it did was deliver the equivalent of two trucks' worth of supplies, at a time when our company was already sending 30+ vehicle convoys out on most days of the week! Like, why waste the effort that went into rigging the cargo, and put an expensive airplane and highly trained pilots [in comparison to us enlisted chumps and our dusty trucks*] at risk for two trucks' worth of cargo?

*Self-deprecation purely for the sake of humor. I don't look so lowly on my past profession...

Mostly, I was into personel rigging (first hemisperics, then ram wings for most of my service). I did pack a few materiel rigs and even was allowed to be drop master on a C 130 crate drop. We jumped from C 130 Hercules and C 160 Transall. I think the overall reasoning for air drops was terrain inacsessibility. Anyway, it was a fascinating job.

Here's a list of aircrafts I've jumped from, both in the army and as a civilian skydiving instructor:

Casa 212
Cesna 185
transall C 160
Hercules C 130
Twin Otter
Pilatus
Noratlas
Dakota
Casa mili (me rappel pas la nomenclature)
Skyvan
Écureuil
Dauphin

/brag

[Michael K Gray]

Michael K Gray, am I correct that you were a regular poster over at the Dawkins site (or am I confusing your name with some other poster)? I'm just wondering what's happened to the the regular posting of news, comments, etc. The feed in my Google Reader doesn't show any new posts since August.

Yes, I was posting on a semi-regular basis, now not.
Part of the reason is the complete lack of convenient feedback, coupled with the borked new software that they use.
No email notices of replies to my posts places an intolerable burden on checking for feedback.
That, and the paucity of quality material, (mainly the tedious parochial Fairclough(sp?) vids etc), the Noachian flooded excess of trivial US-centric meaningless political squabbles has made the site bland and pointless for me.

[windy]

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Ah, thanks! This will make gear shopping easier...

[JackRayner]

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Interesting. We called it both a boonie cover and a jungle cover in the [U.S.] Marines. :)

That's because marines like to pretend that specialized vocabulary makes them specialists. :P

My own opinion is that the jargon they force onto us in recruit training, and throughout our time in service, is part of indoctrination, to reinforce unit cohesion. Hahaha.

[Seriously, though... >_>]

[Rystefn]

Help, what's the English term for the hat on the bottom left (the type of hat, not the camo pattern)? That's what I most commonly wear, that or the short brimmed 'fishing hat' type. (or should it be "anti-fish hat"?)

That would be a Boonie hat, or simply a jungle hat in Brit Mil speak.

Interesting. We called it both a boonie cover and a jungle cover in the [U.S.] Marines. :)

That's because marines like to pretend that specialized vocabulary makes them specialists. :P

My own opinion is that the jargon they force onto us in recruit training, and throughout our time in service, is part of indoctrination, to reinforce unit cohesion. Hahaha.

[Seriously, though... >_>]

Indoctrination is right. The marines are practically a fucking cult... especially with that "there's no such thing as an ex-marine" stuff.

[Mykeru]

Indoctrination is right. The marines are practically a fucking cult... especially with that "there's no such thing as an ex-marine" stuff.

Or an ex-parrot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... Parrot.png

It's just resting.

[JackRayner]

Mostly, I was into personel rigging (first hemisperics, then ram wings for most of my service). I did pack a few materiel rigs and even was allowed to be drop master on a C 130 crate drop. We jumped from C 130 Hercules and C 160 Transall. I think the overall reasoning for air drops was terrain inacsessibility.

Of course.

Ironically enough, the FOB that the cargo was air dropped into was known for having the best chow hall [*sigh*, the little things] in our whole area of operations, which was odd because our home base was actually the air base that supplied them with their stuff. :think:

Anyway, it was a fascinating job.

Here's a list of aircrafts I've jumped from, both in the army and as a civilian skydiving instructor:

Casa 212
Cesna 185
transall C 160
Hercules C 130
Twin Otter
Pilatus
Noratlas
Dakota
Casa mili (me rappel pas la nomenclature)
Skyvan
Écureuil
Dauphin

/brag

Brag away. I remember there always being a bit of jealousy of Marines that had their "jump wings". In fact, one of the guys in my home unit got caught wearing some that he hadn't earned while out on leave, and he never heard the end of it. Upon his return, our company made him stand at the main entrance to our building in full military dress uniform, unearned jump wings included, to greet everyone who passed through. He found it so humiliating that he cried. :?

[Rystefn]

Yeah, they wouldn't let me go to jump school. My superiors hated my guts and actively blocked me from anything that could be considered "prestigious" in any way. Hell, I only even got flag detail once because some people consider it an honor.

[Inaction Man]

On any random board featuring US posters, it's amazingly common to have many members who are ex or current military. Just a sign of the size of the US military I guess.

Closest I got was the last Aussie draft for Vietnam (which never actually went, due to a change of government). I was gonna dodge it, but my old man put my papers in for me, figuring if I did get picked I could dodge it then...caused a bit of an argument that did.

I missed out on the lottery and was so chuffed I fell down two flights of stairs and mangled my ankle badly enough to be permanently unfit for service anyway. :lol:

/irony.

[acathode]

Yeah, it's a pretty bad situation. The state of science journalism generally sucks. Unfortunately, there aren't enough scientists who take up the job of popularizer; they're just too busy or don't have the knack (which is why the likes of William Lane Craig so often "wins" in debates with scientists). But the one thing we certainly don't need is a bunch of party girls who never heard of Hitchens before 2005, or paid money for What the Bleep Do We Know, or "discovered" feminism scant years ago lecturing knowledgeable adults about skepticism, science, or "parroting misogynistic thought."

Reminds me of the lackluster journalism surrounding the Nobel Prizes...

You'd think that here in Sweden, there would be some good coverage of the winners, seeing how the Nobel Prize is one of those things that actually is pretty damn cool about Sweden... but no, the real science winners get something like one article each in every paper (about how happy they are to win the prize), and then there's something like 3-4 paragraphs shortly explaining what groundbreaking discovery they actually got it for.
60-70% or so of the media coverage is about the literature winner, because that's the only thing the journalists actually understands. 10-20% of the coverage is about, and LOLing at, the Norwegians and the peace prize (depending on how hilarious it is this year... the EU, WTF?!), and then the real winners get to share what's remaining. Then, during the actual handing out of the prize, 90% of it is about what clothes the royalty are wearing, what they are eating, and who gets to sit next to who...

[Pitchguest]

Indoctrination is right. The marines are practically a fucking cult... especially with that "there's no such thing as an ex-marine" stuff.

Or an ex-parrot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... Parrot.png

It's just resting.

Pffft, I burst out laughing! Well played, sir, well played.

Also I'd like to say this whole thing with racist hats has me right buggered. Been snickering like mad.

[JackRayner]

My own opinion is that the jargon they force onto us in recruit training, and throughout our time in service, is part of indoctrination, to reinforce unit cohesion. Hahaha.

[Seriously, though... >_>]

Indoctrination is right. The marines are practically a fucking cult... especially with that "there's no such thing as an ex-marine" stuff.

Hahahaha. In my experience, a lot of it is done in jest, though we can be anal about things involving nomenclature... [I refer to myself as a "veteran" Marine, as you may have noticed. :whistle: ]

What I've found is the case, though, is that the former Marines/Marines that put up the hardest act are the ones that haven't done shit. Classic overcompensation. You have guys like another former Marines that goes to my school. Everything is Marines, Marines, Marines. Always talking about how the civilian world sucks and he wants to re-enlist, always posting pictures of himself in uniform on his Facebook, and still cutting his hair into a high-and-tight. His time out of the continent consisted of being stationed in Hawaii and Japan...

With me, you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from a skinny, long-haired hippie unless I took my shirt off. With new friends/acquaintances, many are surprised when they find out that I served after having known me for a while. I don't give too much of a shit. Like, I feel awkward when people thank me for my "service", because there wasn't much that was altruistic about my motivations for joining. [Wasn't for the benefits. Think...young and stupid.] I was motivated as fuck near the start though. But there's just something about being deployed that has a way of beating the idealism out of you, and things stop looking so black-or-white. I don't think that this is something that the average Marine will realize if they've only spent their time in garrison/training situations. Being made to sweat, and playing war with blank ammunition isn't the same as....eh. Let's just say that seeing that beautiful machine unravel when the rubber meets the road, and learning that "following your training" won't always yield the best results has a way of opening your eyes. I was pretty young though, so I don't beat myself up too much...

</Ranty fucking rant! Holy fuck> :?

[Ape+lust]

You'd think that here in Sweden, there would be some good coverage of the winners, seeing how the Nobel Prize is one of those things that actually is pretty damn cool about Sweden... but no, the real science winners get something like one article each in every paper (about how happy they are to win the prize), and then there's something like 3-4 paragraphs shortly explaining what groundbreaking discovery they actually got it for.
60-70% or so of the media coverage is about the literature winner, because that's the only thing the journalists actually understands. 10-20% of the coverage is about, and LOLing at, the Norwegians and the peace prize (depending on how hilarious it is this year... the EU, WTF?!), and then the real winners get to share what's remaining. Then, during the actual handing out of the prize, 90% of it is about what clothes the royalty are wearing, what they are eating, and who gets to sit next to who...

I'm sorry to hear that. US journalism is such a torrent of sensational banalities I have to hope that other places are diligently reporting on things that matter. It sucks watching the global creep of the Murdoch model.

[Rystefn]

My own opinion is that the jargon they force onto us in recruit training, and throughout our time in service, is part of indoctrination, to reinforce unit cohesion. Hahaha.

[Seriously, though... >_>]

Indoctrination is right. The marines are practically a fucking cult... especially with that "there's no such thing as an ex-marine" stuff.

Hahahaha. In my experience, a lot of it is done in jest, though we can be anal about things involving nomenclature... [I refer to myself as a "veteran" Marine, as you may have noticed. :whistle: ]

What I've found is the case, though, is that the former Marines/Marines that put up the hardest act are the ones that haven't done shit. Classic overcompensation. You have guys like another former Marines that goes to my school. Everything is Marines, Marines, Marines. Always talking about how the civilian world sucks and he wants to re-enlist, always posting pictures of himself in uniform on his Facebook, and still cutting his hair into a high-and-tight. His time out of the continent consisted of being stationed in Hawaii and Japan...

With me, you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from a skinny, long-haired hippie unless I took my shirt off. With new friends/acquaintances, many are surprised when they find out that I served after having known me for a while. I don't give too much of a shit. Like, I feel awkward when people thank me for my "service", because there wasn't much that was altruistic about my motivations for joining. [Wasn't for the benefits. Think...young and stupid.] I was motivated as fuck near the start though. But there's just something about being deployed that has a way of beating the idealism out of you, and things stop looking so black-or-white. I don't think that this is something that the average Marine will realize if they've only spent their time in garrison/training situations. Being made to sweat, and playing war with blank ammunition isn't the same as....eh. Let's just say that seeing that beautiful machine unravel when the rubber meets the road, and learning that "following your training" won't always yield the best results has a way of opening your eyes. I was pretty young though, so I don't beat myself up too much...

</Ranty fucking rant! Holy fuck> :?

It's cool. I know a lot of marines (friends and family), and I dog on the them pretty relentlessly... partly in jest, and partly because I'm an asshole. Of course, a lot of that is born of the fact that mostly they had jobs like "glorified weather man" and "truck refueler" and talk like they're big warriors to someone who actually served in combat arms. It lends itself to a lot of jabs.

[soldierwhy]

But there's just something about being deployed that has a way of beating the idealism out of you, and things stop looking so black-or-white.

After spending 3 years in Germany with the 'Cold War Warriors' I deployed to Northern Ireland, funny how those with the biggest war stories were the ones crying for their mommies when shit went down.

[BarnOwl]

Another fabulous example of her mindlessly repeating the stuff she overhears without actually understanding it. DERP!!!! IZA BE UH SKEPDUCK! HEEEERP! MONSANTO!!

:lol:

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

I'm not former military myself, but the USAF pretty much owns this city, and my backyard is probably a military aircraft spotter's dream. Don't ask me any specifics about all the aircraft that fly over, though - I think the big loud slow ones are C-5s or C-13s or summat. Have no idea what the shrieky fast triangular ones are. Some of them have propellers, but are much bigger than the one my great-uncle flew in WW2 (that was a P-51 Mustang). That's about all I know.

[Mykeru]

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

I was driving past a place that had a sign in the window "ORGANIC DRY CLEANERS"

Someone please explain that to me. Does it involve leeches?

[real horrorshow]

Another fabulous example of her mindlessly repeating the stuff she overhears without actually understanding it. DERP!!!! IZA BE UH SKEPDUCK! HEEEERP! MONSANTO!!

:lol:

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

Now you know that's not true. Rebecca prefers to consume French wine stolen from others in First Class.

[Mykeru]

Another fabulous example of her mindlessly repeating the stuff she overhears without actually understanding it. DERP!!!! IZA BE UH SKEPDUCK! HEEEERP! MONSANTO!!

:lol:

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

Now you know that's not true. Rebecca prefers to consume French wine stolen from others in First Class.

Come on now, it's not stealing if she gives it back, on their shoes.

[BarnOwl]

A friend of mine (retired physician) was ranting about "organic sea salt" at Whole Foods (aka Whole Paycheck). "How can it be organic? It's SALT!"

He makes an excellent point. :mrgreen:

[Mykeru]

Another fabulous example of her mindlessly repeating the stuff she overhears without actually understanding it. DERP!!!! IZA BE UH SKEPDUCK! HEEEERP! MONSANTO!!

:lol:

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

Now you know that's not true. Rebecca prefers to consume French wine stolen from others in First Class.

Come on now, it's not stealing if she gives it back, on their shoes.

Almost forgot:

http://www.ratemyvomit.com/images/ul/10 ... -1081.jpeg

HI PEEZ!

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

I was driving past a place that had a sign in the window "ORGANIC DRY CLEANERS"

Someone please explain that to me. Does it involve leeches?

Hello Mr Seinfeld. Here, have a slice of 2012:

http://www.google.com

[BarnOwl]

Another fabulous example of her mindlessly repeating the stuff she overhears without actually understanding it. DERP!!!! IZA BE UH SKEPDUCK! HEEEERP! MONSANTO!!

:lol:

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

Now you know that's not true. Rebecca prefers to consume French wine stolen from others in First Class.

Yeah, and that cupcake had organic vegan frosting, with sustainably harvested, wildcrafted sprinkles ....

[Al Stefanelli]

Then there's "Organic Medicine" or Homeopathy or a glass of water... Well, fuck that - right in the mouth. Here's what I think about Organic foods:

"I'm the enemy because I like to think. I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy that could sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs or the side order of gravy fries? I want high cholesterol. I would eat bacon and butter and buckets of cheese. Okay? I want to smoke Cuban cigars the size of Cincinnati in the nonsmoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I might suddenly feel the need to. Okay, pal?" - Denis Leary

[Mykeru]

Dammit!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8084 ... e23a_z.jpg

Sorry about that Peez, please continue fapping.

[Mykeru]

Lots of lulz from people who pretend to be all ORGANIC NON-GMO!!Eleventy11!!, when they're clearly not at all selective about what they actually consume.

I was driving past a place that had a sign in the window "ORGANIC DRY CLEANERS"

Someone please explain that to me. Does it involve leeches?

Hello Mr Seinfeld. Here, have a slice of 2012:

http://www.google.com

So, in other words, it really doesn't work?

[acathode]

I'm sorry to hear that. US journalism is such a torrent of sensational banalities I have to hope that other places are diligently reporting on things that matter. It sucks watching the global creep of the Murdoch model.

Ah, it's not Fox News-bad, though there are some concerns over the fact that the media is basically divided between two large corps, with our version of BBC in the middle.

I was mostly ranting about the lack of decent science journalism in our mainstream media, it's becomes so obvious when it's Nobel Prize-time when the literature prize get twice as much attention as the science prizes combined, even though it's the most boring out of all prizes, beaten maybe only be the economic prize (and that's not even a real Nobel Prize).