If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

Still with Ian Anderson?

Yup! Eargasm.

Awesome.
How is he playing C flute whilst standing on one leg/crutch/wheelchair?
I last saw him 'live' in 1973/4/5? here in Adelaide's Wayville Hall. In the Royal Showgrounds where prize sheep & cattle are paraded.
A Capacious ~500 seats or so. Maybe less.
The Beatles played there.

Adelaide: The cosmopolitan centre of music.

At least U-fucking-2 haven't been here. And that make up for all of the fcukups from not having in invited Beethoven because the white invaders has not killed all of the original inhabitants, let alone arrived here, but any reason, genocidal or not is sufficient to avoid U2.

AnonymousCowherd wrote:

Michael K Gray wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Oh, and I did play at Nuremberg. If I remember correctltly, the venue was The Hirsch. Gotta check that.

Ja vul, mein Herr Professor Doktor Oberstleutnant von Myers!

Now you've done it. The only reason PZ was not "coming out" for A+ was that the haters would call him the Fuehrer (which, of course, he isn't). I guess now he has no reason to stay cooped up in teh Pharyngula Bell Jar.

He does have in his quiver, the plausible excuse that I did not refer to him as "Mein Fuhrer!".
Only "Oberstleutnant".

And with one bound, he is free!

Delurks.

franc wrote: Imagine any of these people encountering A+ as their first baby step away from religion?

Hi franc,

This describes me. Taking my first baby step away from religion. And as such I would like to say I feel safer here than on any of the baboon boards. I already know what would happen if I went there asking genuine questions.

So hi to all, never got round to introducing myself. I have a slight disability, though did not realise until my daughter saw a genetict, and am mam to a daughter with complex special needs, including severe visual impairement. I enjoy coming here, mostly for the lulz, love the humour here.

Back to lurking.

Michael K Gray wrote:

AnonymousCowherd wrote:

Michael K Gray wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Oh, and I did play at Nuremberg. If I remember correctltly, the venue was The Hirsch. Gotta check that.

Ja vul, mein Herr Professor Doktor Oberstleutnant von Myers!

Now you've done it. The only reason PZ was not "coming out" for A+ was that the haters would call him the Fuehrer (which, of course, he isn't). I guess now he has no reason to stay cooped up in teh Pharyngula Bell Jar.

He does have in his quiver, the plausible excuse that I did not refer to him as "Mein Fuhrer!".
Only "Oberstleutnant".

And with one bound, he is free!

Not if his mighty powers are needed to right the doughty, but mis-organised Aplussers. A firm hand needed in stormy waters etc.

Still look how well that sort of intervention worked for the SA. Not that I'm even slightly comparing the SA to the A+errs - they had much snappier uniforms and were dab hands at forcing octopodiae down unwilling throats. The A+errs, by contrast, are happily uninformed and are cack handed about forcing orthodoxy down swilling chodes. Quite different.

jg64 wrote:Delurks.

franc wrote: Imagine any of these people encountering A+ as their first baby step away from religion?

Hi franc,
This describes me. Taking my first baby step away from religion. And as such I would like to say I feel safer here than on any of the baboon boards. I already know what would happen if I went there asking genuine questions.
So hi to all, never got round to introducing myself. I have a slight disability, though did not realise until my daughter saw a genetict, and am mam to a daughter with complex special needs, including severe visual impairement. I enjoy coming here, mostly for the lulz, love the humour here.
Back to lurking.

At the risk of seeming smug (by virtue of posting frequency) might I say that I can feel some empathy with you?
Perhaps not balanced empathy in parallel with your specific concerns, but empathy nonetheless.
1) Glad to hear that you are peeling yourself away from superstition.
As painful as having a band-aid ripped off a scar, but as vital that it should be removed after the healing process, lest it fester.
2) Many of we here have disabilities, but choose not to employ them as bait, nor lures for sympathy, unlike the A+Theistics.
As for your daughter: what can we do to help? Or: more specifically, is there anything that I can do to assist?
My own daughter is healthy, but I have acquired visual defects, and maybe able to proffer "lulz" to add spice to y0our existence?
Something that the negative drones at A+Theism lack is a sense of humour, that's for sure.

sacha wrote: speaking of images, this is the best photo I've ever seen of [BeckyBoos]:

Nope. Sorry. Still makes my skin crawl. There's something about her stare: cold; unflinching; antiseptic; unfeeling; callously efficient. Something very 'camp commandant'. Something Rosa Klebb-ish. Something very Himmler about her.

http://i.imgur.com/Pc5BM.jpg

Hello to all the new people. :)

Hello to all the new people. :)

Hey, how'd that double post? I hope my mouse isn't doing what the last one did. Let's see if this one doubles...

JackRayner wrote:WTF?! :lol:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... /SNwtf.png

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-470477

Oh dear! Janine, stop fantasizing about me being a lesbian. I'm bi, and the lesbian side is about .0001% of the whole. So, unless you are really secretly Patti Smith (who is pretty much the only woman I've notice I find attractive these days), I have no wet-on for you.

Tigzy wrote:

sacha wrote: speaking of images, this is the best photo I've ever seen of [BeckyBoos]:

Nope. Sorry. Still makes my skin crawl. There's something about her stare: cold; unflinching; antiseptic; unfeeling; callously efficient. Something very 'camp commandant'. Something Rosa Klebb-ish. Something very Himmler about her.

http://i.imgur.com/Pc5BM.jpg

Oh! That is unfair.
So unfair.
And I think that you know exactly why, young man.

real horrorshow wrote:On the upside Scenty, this guy:

Improbable Joe
12 October 2012 at 4:11 pm

… has anyone ever seen Scented Nectar and S.E. Cupp in the same room at the same time? Hmmmm…

Thinks you look like this woman.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8080 ... 29fe07.jpg

If he'd claimed you shared her opinions, I'd have thought it was offensive, but like a good feminist, he only mentions appearances. So you can pass for 33. Not bad eh? (Scenty mentioned recently that her 50th is coming up)

*I can't remember how these genderless pronouns work, so I'm making them up as I go.

Yep, 50 next month, but I am looking forward to 50 more than I did 33. It's kind of a landmark decade year. Now, if only I could pass for 33 back when I used to try to sneak in underaged into clubs where my favourite punk and new wave bands were playing. 2 clubs used to always let me in with no ID, but some of the others I was not so lucky.

rayshul wrote:SN isn't lesbian & more into men, if I remember right. Did have a go at lesbian rad fem separatism shit before it was cool though.

What is wrong with having MRA points of view? There's a lot of fucking overlap on equality between MRAs and feminists.

I'm something like 99.999% straight. The baboons hated hearing my tale of leaving my radical separatist friends cold turkey due to realizing that I wanted to once again be friends with and have sex with men. A big no-no among that type. I only maintained friendships with a couple of women who really don't mind that I was no longer in the dyke community.

And as for MRA viewpoints, I've seen far, far less sexism against women from the MRAs I know, than the rabid sexist misandry from the feminists.

BaconNutellaFiend, your avatar is now my favourite animated gif!

Scented Nectar wrote:Hey, how'd that double post? I hope my mouse isn't doing what the last one did. Let's see if this one doubles...

ARRGGHH!! Now your hardware is "DOUBLING DOWN"!!!
It is a meaningless virus, of the A+ strains! HELP, Abby!
We need a vaccine, stat!
Cue the Hazmat team, pronto.
BZZZt. BZZZt.
Lock the fake set-design doors.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

Michael K Gray wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:Hey, how'd that double post? I hope my mouse isn't doing what the last one did. Let's see if this one doubles...

ARRGGHH!! Now your hardware is "DOUBLING DOWN"!!!
It is a meaningless virus, of the A+ strains! HELP, Abby!
We need a vaccine, stat!
Cue the Hazmat team, pronto.
BZZZt. BZZZt.
Lock the fake set-design doors.

No, no, it's ok. I think we are all immune here at the Pit. My immune system seems to have zapped it at its first showing!

Now watch this go and post twice or something!

Michael K Gray wrote:

Tigzy wrote: Oh! That is unfair.
So unfair.
And I think that you know exactly why, young man.

Himmler had better taste in hair dye?

That the look might be more suitable for Greg Laden when he gets a raging tumescence about the loins for Steffy and wants to play Find Ze Kochwurst?

But seriously - and in case anyone thinks I'm Godwinning - I'm not saying Becky is a nazi. It's just that there's something - in the droning, soulless manner in which she talks and the cold way she seems to peer out at you from behind those glasses like a Stasi interrogator - that just gives me the chills.

Scented Nectar wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

Consider that our sneaky-peeks into their stupid tree-fort may be providing a considerable portion of their funding, now that word has got out.
Honestly: it ain't that hard to copy-n-paste the full link into a browser, surely aimee?

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: And here was our audience when we played (I'm the douchebag turning my back on you to show my utter disdain)


Of course, no smiley needed...

Last French Metal Band I saw was "Trust" - I'm That frigging old.
Just listened to one your tunes, *Rise of the Giants* - jolly good old chap.
Im into new prog, so fitted my tastes quite well - Bit of a Porcupine Tree fanboy.
Its astonishing how much amazing talent there is putting out stuff recorded in their bedroom studio - I only discovered Chimp Spanner the other day. Holy crap hes good.
So to drag it slightly back on topic, why the fuck does every skeptic convention have to feature George Hrab or Marian Call, or tatty student art of Amy whateverthefuckhernameis, to fly the flag of Skeptics in the Arts when there is real flippin talent out there.

Patti Smith who, you ask?

This is my favourite song by her. There's something very psychedelic about it.

[youtube]lXk605um13w[/youtube]

Tigzy wrote:

Michael K Gray wrote:

Tigzy wrote: Oh! That is unfair.
So unfair.
And I think that you know exactly why, young man.

Himmler had better taste in hair dye?
That the look might be more suitable for Greg Laden when he gets a raging tumescence about the loins for Steffy and wants to play Find Ze Kochwurst?
But seriously - and in case anyone thinks I'm Godwinning - I'm not saying Becky is a nazi. It's just that there's something - in the droning, soulless manner in which she talks and the cold way she seems to peer out at you from behind those glasses like a Stasi interrogator - that just gives me the chills.

Yeah. I can see whence one is coming.
But ze Waffen-SS members had to be trained und indoctrinated into zier extreme sociopathic Fascism.
With Becca-boos, it comes naturally.
Forced vs Natural.

(Und ja, hatte Heindrich Himmer überlegene Auswahl in Haarfärbemitteln.)

Michael K Gray wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

Consider that our sneaky-peeks into their stupid tree-fort may be providing a considerable portion of their funding, now that word has got out.
Honestly: it ain't that hard to copy-n-paste the full link into a browser, surely aimee?

Yes, it is hard. I'm lazy. What can I say?

mutleyeng wrote:So to drag it slightly back on topic, why the fuck does every skeptic convention have to feature George Hrab or Marian Call, or tatty student art of Amy whateverthefuckhernameis, to fly the flag of Skeptics in the Arts when there is real flippin talent out there.

The answer is: it does not have to be that way.
Hrab? A lucky dumb-fuck cretin know-nothing suit-wearing-idiot who happens to have briefly taken the fancy of Beccy.
Nothing more than that.
But: good luck to him having been able to spin the golden thread for as long as he has been able. Hope you got a good pension plan, Georgy-boy.
Youse gunna sink with FfTB, Skepchunk, A+Thesism, SGU, and the rest of the willing passengers on the good ship SS Titanic.
Strike up the bland.
Abide with anyone but me.

http://internationalcuntkickday.tk/

Calloo callay, it's cunt kick day...

Ophelia, I spit on your dried wheat sexless cunt. I ejaculate on your dried raisin ovaries. Zwan, your beached whale cunt is not even erotic to japanese. McCrate - even bestialists erections would wither. Fuck you cunts. Fuck you. Hell is too nice a place.

Scented Nectar wrote:Yes, it is hard. I'm lazy. What can I say?

You can say:
Aubergine
Ocelot
Guillemot
"tat"
Orange
Helical
Chrysanthemum??
an
discombobulation
as
antidisestablishmentarianism
oh!
fuck off michael you embarrassing complete cunt
hello
hullo
lesbian
hullo lesbian
fuck off lesbian
no, really
just fuck off
I don't want to talk about it
etc...

Michael K Gray wrote: Hrab? A lucky dumb-fuck cretin know-nothing suit-wearing-idiot who happens to have briefly taken the fancy of Beccy.
Nothing more than that.

Ah right. I've always associated him with Phil Plait - but that might be a visual bias

Scented Nectar wrote:

Michael K Gray wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

Consider that our sneaky-peeks into their stupid tree-fort may be providing a considerable portion of their funding, now that word has got out.
Honestly: it ain't that hard to copy-n-paste the full link into a browser, surely aimee?

Yes, it is hard. I'm lazy. What can I say?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the anonymizer is *not* about depriving them of funding, but is instead about making it impossible for them to block links from the Pit.

rayshul wrote:I don't understand why anyone would invite him to talk on anything atheism related. His "call to arms" stuff seems more like a crazed preacher. Do weeee have any social justice in the houuuuuuuseeeee!??! REPENT YOUR MISOGYNISTIC WAYYYYYSSS.

*knock knock knock*

Hello there, my name is Gumby, from the Church of the Sisterhood of the Oppressed. Haven't you heard the Good News? May I come into your home and share this story, my sister in Peezus?

All men are infected with Original Sin, which is misogyny.

You see, after the almighty GOD created the Sun, the Earth, the rotation of Earth, then a few days later remembered to throw in day and night, He created this paradisaical garden in which he placed the first two people, Eve and Lilith. Unto them He said "I, the LORD, give this all to you. All is yours, but you are not to surf the Garden's television channels any higher than Channel 70, the Lifetime Network."

Well, we all know the rest of the story. Eve, frustrated by nothing on TV but Lifetime fare like "Tears for my Vagina" and countless episodes of "Woman In Danger", was tempted by a serpent (the New Testament refers to him as "Franc", but there is no mention of this in the earliest texts) to go beyond into the Forbidden Channel Zone. And lo, her eyes were opened, and many strange and titillating things did she see. Playboy Channel. Showtime. HBO.

She went to Lilith, and convinced her to take a look. Upon beholding the wonders of beer commercials and "Baywatch" reruns, her brain became chromosomally damaged (a condition known today as spongiform Ladenitus). To her horror, an extra appendage grew from between her legs, replacing the hole-y vagina that had so pleased the LORD. Lilith furthermore began sprouting body hair and speaking in a deeper voice, and most horrifyingly of all, Eve developed an longing for Lilith's extra appendage.

Some time later, the all-seeing, omniscient GOD was walking through the Garden, and He couldn't find Eve and Lilith for the life of him. So, after a few hours wandering aimlessly about and yelling "Eve! Lilith! Where art thou!", Eve and Lilith finally appeared, with leaves covering their nether regions. When GOD inquired as to why Lilith's leaf was so much longer than Eve's, they confessed. Enraged, the LORD cast them both out of the garden, saying "For this transgression, Lilith shall now be "Adam" (translation: potential rapist), a "male". And because this is your fault Eve, I hereby create the Patriarchy, where you are doomed to be oppressed by Adam and those like him. You will make them sandwiches, and bare their children. BEGONE!!!"

And so, Sister Rayshul, it has been thus ever since. We women have been cruelly suppressed by the patriarchy, but due to Eve, ALL are born with the sin of misogyny in our souls. But there is hope! It is my fondest wish that you surrender your heart to the grace and forgiveness of Peezus. Allow Peezus to come unto you! Only then will your misogyny be washed away, and only then will you be born again.

Well, I've taken up enough of your time, dear sister. Please take this copy of "The Way of the AtheismPlus Master" and in it find redemption. God bless you!

*explodes into hundreds of bats that scatter across the darkening sky*

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

Still with Ian Anderson?

Yup! Eargasm.

Envious!!

I saw Jethro Tull, with ZZ Top to open, in the late 1970s. Still have all my albums.

Ian Anderson keeps a rather charming website.

And Huzzah! to compression hose for air travel and taking an aspirin every day.

Skep tickle wrote:

Pitchguest wrote:

somedumbguy wrote:Anyway, I am also somewhat astonished that Al leaves pretty quietly, no great big scene, and PZ sends him off by calling him a racist.

He did what?

The fuck, he actually did.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... 12/for-al/

5 minutes later, PZ posted his next topic: White and delightsome (a Brian Keith Dalton video about racism inherent in Mormonism), saying it should be watched before the debate.

I'm now going to waste 10 seconds considering why he put those 2 in juxtaposition: Shame/repentance/coverup for the thread about Al, felt a need to get back in with racism-sensitive A+'ers? Had some grand plan all along to post them back-to-back? The pair of topics actually is intended to take a poke at Al's Mormon friends, or at Al for having Mormon friends? (If applicable.) Was clueless about any possible connection?

'Kay, that's it. I'm done wondering about that.

It's obviously the hat. I wasn't aware I was wearing my racist hat. I thought it was my homophobic hat, which I intended to wear, as it matches well with my anti-woman plastic glasses. Apparently I got the colors of the band confused. Such is how it goes with getting older.

Thank heavens I didn't accidentally don my rapist hat, but after checking, I am happy to report it's stored safely in a box where it may or may not exist.

Here's a picture of me wearing my "civil rights activist" headgear, which obviously means that I love everybody:
Hopefully, this will remove all suspicions that I hate all redneck cowboys:
Oh, I forgot, I'm a cripple, so I figured I'd throw this in:
Cheers...

Banjo? Dude, you are such a homophobic bastard. I learn that watching Deliverance.

:lol:

mutleyeng wrote:

Michael K Gray wrote: Hrab? A lucky dumb-fuck cretin know-nothing suit-wearing-idiot who happens to have briefly taken the fancy of Beccy.
Nothing more than that.

Ah right. I've always associated him with Phil Plait - but that might be a visual bias

Our Fairy-Phil has more talent in half his little toe than Hrab has in his entire ego, I'll wager my family fortune one that.
M. Giordiana does not have the shiny suit-coats that seem to give the bald Hrab the fashionista edge.
As one might be aware, fashion sense trumps musical talent anytime for the Skepchunks!
For: enjoying music for its own sake, "only" garners one mere internal pleasure.(!)
For the likes of Beccie-booze, and her trailing narcissistic hordes, that is hardly good enough.
One's adrenaline/oxytocin injection events MUST be publicly recorded, or they do not count!
What is the point in enjoying ones-self if it cannot be publicly advertised to one's adoring suck-hole sycophants?

Spit.

LMU wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the anonymizer is *not* about depriving them of funding, but is instead about making it impossible for them to block links from the Pit.

You are quite correct in that assessment.

Gumby wrote:...Well, I've taken up enough of your time, dear sister. Please take this copy of "The Way of the AtheismPlus Master" and in it find redemption. God bless you!

Now, come on.
How the fuck did you manage to get a pre-release copy of PZed's long awaited novel?

Scented Nectar wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

OK, I'll fix later today. But be aware that it's possible to take action based on the referrer header, so the baboollies could in theory fuck with you by blocking, &c. if they choose...

Also, I'll look into proving local Amazon links...

Michael K Gray wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:Yes, it is hard. I'm lazy. What can I say?

You can say:
Aubergine
Ocelot
Guillemot
"tat"
Orange
Helical
Chrysanthemum??
an
discombobulation
as
antidisestablishmentarianism
oh!
fuck off michael you embarrassing complete cunt
hello
hullo
lesbian
hullo lesbian
fuck off lesbian
no, really
just fuck off
I don't want to talk about it
etc...

Yes, I suppose I could say those thing. But would I have? Maybe I should have said "What would I say?"
Heheh, that one's got to be harder, short of mind reading.

Za-zen wrote:Oolon hasn't taken the official entrance exam, evidenced by his refusal to admit to wheter he likes fishsticks. By oolon's reasoning he is therefore not a pitter.

[youtube]OPjv6-WeKT4[/youtube]

CommanderTuvok wrote: Steady up. Remember, leaving life as a Baboon takes time and the cognitive dissonance fades slowly. Like former religious folk who lose their faith, there is a time of confusion before clarity and logic take over.

There is much truth to this statement, at least for me. It's amazing how much indoctrination goes on at Freethoughtblogs. Escape is not instantaneous, but one does scale that wall rather quickly.

LMU wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the anonymizer is *not* about depriving them of funding, but is instead about making it impossible for them to block links from the Pit.

Correct: use AdBlock, Ghostery, NoScript and RequestPolicy (all for Firefox - equivalents available for other browsers) to fuck their ad revenue...

franc wrote:http://internationalcuntkickday.tk/

Calloo callay, it's cunt kick day...

Ophelia, I spit on your dried wheat sexless cunt. I ejaculate on your dried raisin ovaries. Zwan, your beached whale cunt is not even erotic to japanese. McCrate - even bestialists erections would wither. Fuck you cunts. Fuck you. Hell is too nice a place.

Someone is fucking obsessed. Hahaha, go check your mental health franc. Seriously. Of course, unless there was humor in the above in which case nevermind.

Reap wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

LMU wrote:
It makes me wonder how he'd sound on Reap's podcast. Would he spend the whole time trying to get Reap to start shouting racist slurs?

Reap has extended an invitation to Oolon on his podcast. It would be nice and interesting to hear this.

Yes I have and the offer still stands. In fact I have always made it clear anyone I talk about or have a dispute with is welcome to come on my show and clear up any misconceptions or to tell me what they think of me directly. I have a certain amount of respect for anyone who will do that no matter what it is they have to say.

Too bad Ophelia won't come on...or at least she won't come on my show despite the regular complaints from her :)

From the CSICon website:

6:30—9:00 PM
Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe Dinner $95 Proceeds to SGU (Not included in Meal Plan Ticket)

See instead: Gravy Train tickets

Pinker wrote:Like a few others here, I used to be a fan of Pz Myers. I even met him once. But he has really gone off the deep end, and so have the regular posters

Same thoughts here exactly. I met him him once and even had him sign my copy of the "God Delusion". I no longer follow his blog and had I known he would turn into a demagogue determined to lambast anyone who doesn't toe the line on radical feminist dogma, I never would have asked for his signature.

Michael K Gray wrote:

Gumby wrote:...Well, I've taken up enough of your time, dear sister. Please take this copy of "The Way of the AtheismPlus Master" and in it find redemption. God bless you!

Now, come on.
How the fuck did you manage to get a pre-release copy of PZed's long awaited novel?

It's not from PZ's book, it's a Bible with the word "sin" crossed out and "misogyny" written in crayon! Found it in a trailer park in Minnesota.

Lsuoma wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:AND PLEASE: can we get over our fear of providing extra pennies to these folks, and remove the anonymous redirection of links, so that links to specific comments actually work?

I agree. It breaks all links that go to a specific part of a page.

OK, I'll fix later today. But be aware that it's possible to take action based on the referrer header, so the baboollies could in theory fuck with you by blocking, &c. if they choose...

Also, I'll look into proving local Amazon links...

Well, maybe we should keep it then. PZ knows that traffic from specific sites can be redirected, since they sometimes do it to him when he fucks with polls. I wouldn't put it past him to do that to us. I saw him once tell his commentors to copy and paste the url in, instead of clicking it, to get around the redirects.

Stretchycheese wrote:

Pinker wrote:Like a few others here, I used to be a fan of Pz Myers. I even met him once. But he has really gone off the deep end, and so have the regular posters

Same thoughts here exactly. I met him him once and even had him sign my copy of the "God Delusion". I no longer follow his blog and had I known he would turn into a demagogue determined to lambast anyone who doesn't toe the line on radical feminist dogma, I never would have asked for his signature.

Having PZ sign a copy of the "God Delusion" is like having Pauly Shore sign the autobiography of Sir Alec Guinness.

Gumby wrote:There is much truth to this statement, at least for me. It's amazing how much indoctrination goes on at Freethoughtblogs. Escape is not instantaneous, but one does scale that wall rather quickly.

It is not at all "amazing" to those who have been observing this phenomenon from the outside.
As Franc may attest, there are those (apparently) rare humans¹ who have never fallen for parasitic indoctrination, and who cannot identify with your specific plight.
(To be BRUTALLY honest, we wonder why the fuck you fell for this/these transparently obvious scam/s in the first place.)
_________________________
¹ Australians, mostly, it seems.

Trophy wrote:

franc wrote:http://internationalcuntkickday.tk/

Calloo callay, it's cunt kick day...

Ophelia, I spit on your dried wheat sexless cunt. I ejaculate on your dried raisin ovaries. Zwan, your beached whale cunt is not even erotic to japanese. McCrate - even bestialists erections would wither. Fuck you cunts. Fuck you. Hell is too nice a place.

Someone is fucking obsessed. Hahaha, go check your mental health franc. Seriously. Of course, unless there was humor in the above in which case nevermind.

I know it may sound baboolish (go read Hoggleism 101!), but you have to know Franc and his MO. Very distasteful, and all the more appropriate in some cases.

I will not answer to those other comments that make me blush with (prabably false) modesty about my music. A general "thank you" will do, I hope.

BarnOwl wrote:From the CSICon website:

6:30—9:00 PM
Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe Dinner $95 Proceeds to SGU (Not included in Meal Plan Ticket)

See instead: Gravy Train tickets

Saw that Harriet Hall and Sara Mayhew are going to speak, should we expect more rage tears from Roth?

:popcorn:

justinvacula wrote:Too bad Ophelia won't come on...or at least she won't come on my show despite the regular complaints from her :)

Have you ever considered that she may have an embarrassing speech defect?

Stretchycheese wrote:

Pinker wrote:Like a few others here, I used to be a fan of Pz Myers. I even met him once. But he has really gone off the deep end, and so have the regular posters

Same thoughts here exactly. I met him him once and even had him sign my copy of the "God Delusion". I no longer follow his blog and had I known he would turn into a demagogue determined to lambast anyone who doesn't toe the line on radical feminist dogma, I never would have asked for his signature.

You know what, I can somehow understand them, at least partially. Let me quote what Crommunist wrote recently:

...I also encountered people who relied on a seemingly coded language. They would begin an argument on seemingly-innocuous grounds where there would be broad agreement from most reasonable people, and then through a series of ever-widening logical holes would steer the conversation towards their real position – that the victims of racism deserved what they got for one or more of a variety of reasons: laziness, cultural deficiency, an entitlement ethos, biological inferiority, lack of ‘personal responsibility’… again, a long list.

Perhaps most frustrating were the people who claimed to be, or otherwise seemed to be, allies in the struggle against racism who nevertheless made statements reminiscent of those in the first two groups. In their own frustration and difficulty accepting the realities of racism, a situation further coloured by the fact that they themselves had never needed to confront racism in a personal way, they fell into the same cognitive traps that made the race-baiting-accusers and the coded-linguists so galling. It was based on the tacit acceptance of a handful of unwarranted assumptions about members of minority groups who talk about race, or about the groups themselves.

And so, over a number of years and bruised friendships and self-recriminations over al of the racist statements I let slide because I was “picking my battles”, my skill at detecting racist sentiments grew. I knew, within a couple of sentences, where a coded or dismissive line of reasoning was going – often before the speaker hirself knew that there was any racial component to hir speech. I could rattle off refutations and dig my heels in on things that seemed innocent enough, but that I knew were the first baby-steps toward victim blaming and racial attack. I began to see the racial elements of things that even I hadn’t considered relevant before. It was like a goddamn Spidey sense.

(my bold).

The thing is, I understand how this works. It's the fucking awesome pattern matching abilities of the brain: if you encounter a certain racist pattern of arguments over and over again, then the next time someone begins an argument that matches that pattern, the alarms in your brain go off and you will get a sense, a sixth "spidey feeling", that you know where this argument is going. But of course, submitting yourself to the mercy of the pattern matching capabilities of your brain is a very unskeptical way to go. The problem becomes worse when you engage in online discussions where emotional cues get lost. And I think these are partially responsible for the meltdown of the PZ and the gang: Their pattern matching system is overloaded, they see sexism everywhere; they need it tune down the false positives.

No one is denying that there are real assholes, sexists, and misogynists out there. The question is, are you using reason and evidence to detect them or your "sixth sense"? When someone says something that you think it disagrees with your position, do you assume a certain attitude, race, gender and etc. is associated with them or do you first ask for clarifications?

Stretchycheese wrote:

Pinker wrote:Like a few others here, I used to be a fan of Pz Myers. I even met him once. But he has really gone off the deep end, and so have the regular posters

Same thoughts here exactly. I met him him once and even had him sign my copy of the "God Delusion". I no longer follow his blog and had I known he would turn into a demagogue determined to lambast anyone who doesn't toe the line on radical feminist dogma, I never would have asked for his signature.

That's like having Lady Gaga sign a copy of LaTraviata.

Michael K Gray wrote: (To be BRUTALLY honest, we wonder why the fuck you fell for this/these transparently obvious scam/s in the first place.)

I wish I could answer that question. I really do. It probably has its roots in the same reasons I used to believe that by telepathically communicating with a Jewish zombie, I could gain immortality. To be fair to myself though, I was a fan of PZ's for years before the radfem religious revival took place on FTB. I loved his dissection of creationist nonsense and loved the way the commentariat would ruthlessly skewer fundies who would swagger in armed with their latest copy-paste from AnswersInGenesis. And also to be fair to myself, the minute I saw Elevatorgate and the reaction to Dawkins' "Dear Muslima" post was the minute I started wondering "Are these people really who I want to be hanging out with? So don't be too rough on me.

TL;DR:

PZ turned me into a newt!
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I got better...

Gumby wrote:So don't be too rough on me.

Red rag to a Bullshitter!

franc wrote:http://internationalcuntkickday.tk/

Calloo callay, it's cunt kick day...

Ophelia, I spit on your dried wheat sexless cunt. I ejaculate on your dried raisin ovaries. Zwan, your beached whale cunt is not even erotic to japanese. McCrate - even bestialists erections would wither. Fuck you cunts. Fuck you. Hell is too nice a place.

Dried wheat sexless cunt. Greatest insult ever. My life is complete.

Michael K Gray wrote:

justinvacula wrote:Too bad Ophelia won't come on...or at least she won't come on my show despite the regular complaints from her :)

Have you ever considered that she may have an embarrassing speech defect?

I saw her speak on a panel video somewhere, and her speech defect is the words she uses, in other words, the things she says. :lol:

Gumby wrote:..... the minute I saw Elevatorgate and the reaction to Dawkins' "Dear Muslima" post was the minute I started wondering "Are these people really who I want to be hanging out with?....

For what it's worth, I always thought 'Dear Muslima' was a perfectly valid and proportional response.
Dawkins' letter was as extreme as Bex's compaint was trivial.

Mykeru wrote: So, is the the guy they DMCA the guy who apparently tweeted something rape-y? Hard to know what that was as Rebecca's definition of confrontational, as we see above, is creative. Any screen caps of that tweet? Is this the guy they got fired?

I'm interested in the sequence because I suspect that, based on their standard operating procedure:

The DMCAing preceded the tweet in question. That is, he was doxed for his criticism of Rebecca Watson. A later paranoid interpretation of a tweet became the post hoc rationale. Although they claim he was fired for his tweet, more likely he was fired because Rebecca and her friends (she admits to pissing off tweeters, banning them and letting her minions do the work) did a Justin Vacula on him.

If someone can give me a sense of what was said when by whom, and explain it to me like I'm an idiot, it would be appreciated.

No such thing happened. @ElevatorGate is, at worst, the kind of troll that shares absolutely every stupid thing that the skepchics and their ilk post onto twitter, blogs, or say in videos/podcasts. For example, he likes to retweet people that thank Sulky Amy after they buy her grade school arts & crafts projects. I know a lot of people aren't fond of him, but he's absolutely harmless....unless you're the kind of person that hates having your stupidity mocked.

Hello again new peeps.

And I think I can't be the only one to notice all the wimmin joining? ( :p )

Maybe because here they are treated as y'know people and not as perceptual victims?

Oh and new people (of all genders and none), please can we have more cat avatars?