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the impact of YOU getting a rape threat is different than a woman getting one
What the fuck does that even mean?

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sacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
How to disable gif animations.

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decius wrote:LSuoma, sorry about your mare.
Thanks, Decius, and thanks to everyone else who expressed sympathy. She became a very, very important part of my life when it was falling apart big-time about a decade and a half ago, and I know the feeling of loss will never go away, but it was the right thing for me to do to relieve her sufferings.
Azatoth, you're a fucking moron.
I assume you're talking about the smilies - I can always turn them off if people abuse them...

BTW: I just noticed this one which is prolly appropriate for PZ Liars: :liar:

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Just about the flashy thing. It's the equivalent of someone farting in an elevator or refusing an offer for a late night coffee.

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decius wrote:Just about the flashy thing. It's the equivalent of someone farting in an elevator or refusing an offer for a late night coffee.
Yes, no one appreciates being flashed.

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O rly?

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Dilurk wrote:
decius wrote:Just about the flashy thing. It's the equivalent of someone farting in an elevator or refusing an offer for a late night coffee.
Yes, no one appreciates being flashed.
Well, he is the fastest man alive, so it'd be over before you noticed. :whistle:

Horror - the only problem is the 10 seconds of googling gets you more of the same. Endless talking about the rape threats, but nothing concrete. The closest is troll emails like "I hope you get raped and die! Ha Ha!"

Maybe you should have specified Real rape threats as opposed to Troll rape threats. Although to call them threats is pretty much a stretch.

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Would someone please link me these documented threats?

I have yet to see anything other than "I get emails".

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real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7700 ... aa00_z.jpg
Are you really surprised? I'm not.

Not in the least. There are no credible rape threats or he'd have been round to the cozzers, pronto...

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Skeeve wrote:Would someone please link me these documented threats?

I have yet to see anything other than "I get emails".
They're being kept in a super-secret location, being looked at by "top people". Top people.

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Lsuoma wrote:
real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
Are you really surprised? I'm not.

Not in the least. There are no credible rape threats or She'd have been round to the cozzers, pronto...

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Yeah, shame on you, Horror. How could you ignore all that voluminous documentation of innuendos and anecdotes pointing to anonymous offenders?

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real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7700 ... aa00_z.jpg
The burden is on the people claiming the "literal threats of rape and murder" exist (from secularist to secularist). Anyway, let's assume this isn't the case for some reason. What's so difficult about her linking what is apparently so easy to find? How does one even go about Googling this anyway? BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.

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From Jean Zazez (as was previously mentioned). Will she be the next 'witch of the week?' From what I recall, Watson and co. haven't even engaged with her arguments yet on their blogs. Why is that? Perhaps they just want to repeat the 'all dissent is trolling narrative' and not answer real questions from honest dissenters?
While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.

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justinvacula wrote:From Jean Zazez (as was previously mentioned). Will she be the next 'witch of the week?' From what I recall, Watson and co. haven't even engaged with her arguments yet on their blogs. Why is that? Perhaps they just want to repeat the 'all dissent is trolling narrative' and not answer real questions from honest dissenters?
While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.
Ahh, I misspelled.

Anyway, I think Ophelia and Kazez had some back-and-forth in comments, but I don't recall seeing blog posts about the issue. Enlighten me if I am mistaken.

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justinvacula wrote:
The burden is on the people claiming the "literal threats of rape and murder" exist (from secularist to secularist). Anyway, let's assume this isn't the case for some reason. What's so difficult about her linking what is apparently so easy to find? How does one even go about Googling this anyway? BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
In a way, horror was actually banned for questioning the narrative. He dared to question that, in the form of asking for some evidence. Which is clearly verbotten. Get on your coffee shirt, Horror.

If there was one link to a credible, or even half-way credible threat, I'd wager it would end a lot of the "show us the money" questions. Of course, it would also show the incredibly low threshold they have for a "threat", which would further open themselves to ridicule.

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justinvacula wrote:
justinvacula wrote:From Jean Zazez (as was previously mentioned). Will she be the next 'witch of the week?' From what I recall, Watson and co. haven't even engaged with her arguments yet on their blogs. Why is that? Perhaps they just want to repeat the 'all dissent is trolling narrative' and not answer real questions from honest dissenters?
While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.
Ahh, I misspelled.

Anyway, I think Ophelia and Kazez had some back-and-forth in comments, but I don't recall seeing blog posts about the issue. Enlighten me if I am mistaken.
The origin of the quoted passage complaining about sexism

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justinvacula wrote:BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
He should be glad that Twatson has no real power, otherwise he would be in gaol or dead. Such a questioning is entirely analogous to religious heresy.

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Lsuoma wrote:
justinvacula wrote:BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
He should be glad that Twatson has no real power, otherwise he would be in gaol or dead. Such a questioning is entirely analogous to religious heresy.
Heresy, derives of course, from the Greek haeresis, meaning choice, effectively choosing not to believe "facts" decreed to be true, and which do not need the support of facts.

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real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7700 ... aa00_z.jpg
Apparently, asking why threats weren't reported to the police is 'victim blaming.' Apparently, women who are recipients of "literal threats of rape and murder" should just be passive and not report threats to authorities? Asking why "literal threats of rape and murder" are not reported to police is a damn good question. Wouldn't we expect this if these "literal threats of rape and murder" were so prevalent and such a problem that men from the skeptical/atheist communities are being asked to take a stand against it? Apparently, the police just shouldn't get involved and we should just write strongly-worded letters expressive disapproval...because that's the way to change things.

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Just for the fun of it, I thought I'd postsome of the pearls of wisdom that are raining down in Steffunny's latest post where she tries ever-so-hard to prove just exactly how stupid she really is (http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... education/)

Stefunny said:
Convincing people does happen. It may even happen sometimes in online spaces where everyone is very nice and refrains from any naming and shaming in conversation. I don’t know. I see very few of those places. Though they’re often touted as the ideal, they are far more rare than they think they are. The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.
My emphasis. Round and round and round we go....

stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
Smeh?

TidyBowl said:
Ethos, pathos and logos. Without all three, your argument is hamstrung by design.
In my opinion, the day that TidyBowl actually understands principals of rhetoric is the day the world ends.

smhll said:
The crucial “privilege” that comes into play when discussing social justice issues is the privilege of not being in pain right at the the very beginning of the discussion.
Huh?

ischemgeek said:
All that aside, it’s still his space and it’s his right to create the environment he desires. I do not take issue with his attempt to build the environment he wants at all. I just worry that the environment he says he desires (one that is safe, civil and respectful) and the environment he’s creating (one that feels emotionally repressive on issues are charged by their very nature) are two different things.
LOL.

Improbable Joe said:
Strictly policing the use of heated emotional language used in discussing human social interactions is dehumanizing, in that it treats the discussion like some sort of abstract philosophical word game with little actual meaning. By contrast, the use of emotional language including insults, including calling people assholes, is ultimately humanizing. It says “I am a person, and you’re a person, and you’re being a bad person by hurting me, by minimizing me, by attacking me or trying to muzzle me.” Especially for people who are marginalized by society, it is important to be able to stand up and call out people when they are being assholes.
/scratches head

The entertainment never really ends.

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LOL. I forgot my emphasiseses:

The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.

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John Greg wrote: /scratches head

The entertainment never really ends.
The descent into pomo never stops...

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E-READER THINGIE--

Apparently I have Lexcycle Stanza (Mac)-- It will pretty much open anything and it will export the file as pretty much anything.

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Lsuoma wrote:
John Greg wrote: /scratches head

The entertainment never really ends.
The descent into pomo never stops...
Someone somewhere - I forget which post mentioned it, sorry - said that there were two FftB parody sites. I know the Freethoughtblahgs one. Maybe this is the other one. They've been doing a grand parody of a real site that we just can't see. The whole thing is one huge poe!

:pray: :doh: :obscene-birdiered: :teasing-poke:

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@JohnGreg

And yet, for all their protests, the very people demanding the right to use the word 'asshole' are quite clearly very capable of being assholes without actually having to use such coarse language to demonstrate it.

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Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.

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John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.
It's because Orwell quite clearly describes Orwellia's Ophelia's stock in trade, which she hoped that nobody would notice...

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It gets worse. She also describes Orwell's fictional works as:
... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
Mindlessness is rampant.

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Lsuoma wrote:
John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.
It's because Orwell quite clearly describes Orwellia's Ophelia's stock in trade, which she hoped that nobody would notice...
Nonsense. She clearly realized he was writing non-fiction and not fiction. It's all so clear.

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Badger3k wrote:
sacha wrote: cheers, Skeeve, gone.
Mighty nice Skeeve you have. Shame if something happened to 'I'm....
hahaha!

Thank the universe for the comma

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Chris Hallquist said:
I see your point about Orwell, though 1984 was a brilliant essay.
Ophelia replied:
Chris, yes – and more of an essay than a novel.
Huh? WTF?

What fucking planet....

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Tigzy said:
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Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.
Will it last?

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John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.
well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):

http://i.imgur.com/aw4Vw.png

Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!

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Whoops. Sorry for the typos in the quote quote.

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SHHHHH

Don't let the Pit know you use mac! Then I'll have to admit I do too...
ERV wrote:E-READER THINGIE--

Apparently I have Lexcycle Stanza (Mac)-- It will pretty much open anything and it will export the file as pretty much anything.

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John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.

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Geez, that Svan link above is full of fail.

Also, they're still attacking Fincke over his moderation policy.

http://atheiststoday.com/images/Fincke_comment.jpg

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grrr, not "Also"..that was part of something I decided not to post and forgot to edit.

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First day of gross anatomy lab, and one of the students accidentally unleashed a tidal wave of tank fluid on my scrubs by lowering the cadaver tray into the tank too quickly. Every year. It happens every year. I stank so much that the little dogs wanted nothing to do with me until I'd showered and changed clothes.

So dammit I need to laugh and rant at some FfTB stupidity. Here's another "pearl" of disingenuousness from Stefunny's post:
It’s going to be accompanied by a lot of work to change the world more quickly, though. I won’t be leisurely about that. I won’t be unemotional. I won’t hide what it costs me. I will weigh the relative merits of being inclusive and getting things done for any given action as I go.

And nobody gets to tell me that I should stop doing any of that in order to focus on educating the leisure class.
News flash: You are part of the leisured class ... you and all your FfTBuddies who fly all over the planet to attend meetings that serve primarily to provide you with more blog and Twitter fodder. It's not work. You're not working, and your only social justice "activism" is completely self-serving. It's not the fucking Arab Spring. You're not in any danger. You're not even experiencing any discomfort, as far as I can tell. Lying sanctimonious liars. Fuck off.

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real horrorshow wrote:
John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.
The general philosophy these idiots seem to espousing, or at lest moving towards, is very much the paranoid (non-clinical, as is made clear if you read the books) mindset described by Richard Hofstadter in The Paranoid Style in American Politics, in which he describes the Goldwater movement of the early '60s.

The anti-elitism is beginning to burgeon.

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John Greg wrote:Tigzy said:
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Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.
Will it last?
If nothing else, then this one opinion serves to show what an utter moron Ophelia Benson is. Sure, she doesn't have to like any of Orwell's novels, but given the esteem and influence of these novels - in particular Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four - over his essays (though I admit, The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.

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Tigzy wrote:
John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.
well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):

http://i.imgur.com/aw4Vw.png

Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
Ah, it's gone already. Why am I not suprised...

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Tigzy wrote:The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.
<pedant>
Hooker, not Brooker...
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But otherwise, yes indeed!

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Shit - yes - it was 'Hooker' wasn't it. *thwarted fanboi shameface*

Well...Ophelia got me all steamed up about it, hence the mistake. Yes. That's what happened.

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Tigzy wrote:well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):

http://i.imgur.com/aw4Vw.png

Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
They're all into lit crit on Skepchick too:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7701 ... 482e_z.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7701 ... ae2eca.jpg
I wonder how he knew I was being unironic? Maybe because what happens to Alex is so enviable that anyone would want to follow in his footsteps? Or is it that his dash round the interwebs looking for stuff on a book he knows fuck-all about didn't include a plot summary?

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Sorry about not posting much but ftb are now dead to me. Though on my facebook wall Matt Dillahunty was calling ThunderfOOt a dishonest prick and threatening to start blocking people who disagreed with him. WTF if you behave like a creationist then you are a creationist in my book. :doh:

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Even after years of dealing with Creationists and anti-vaxers, I dont know what to say to that kind of anti-intellectualism.

"LUL! SEE, CREATIONSTS LUKING DOWN ON SCIENTISTS IZ BAD BUT US LOOKING DOWN ON LITERATURE IS GUD SEE? LULZ!"

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Interestingly, the 'puritan-progressive' types who tend to latch on to the left wing - such as Ophelia, for instance - were busy in Orwell's time, too. So the FC5(6) sort are nothing new. In fact, they're quite quaint*, really. Orwell contemptuously referred to such people as 'bearded fruit-juice drinkers'.

*'quaint' has interesting etymological roots. It was synonymous with 'vulva' in the fourtheenth century. Hence the phonetic similarity to...

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John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
My emphasis.

I do not know what to say.
So now she's a literary critic?

Keep the Aspidistra Flying? The Clergyman's Daughter? Two of my favourite novels. As for Gore Vidal, Benson could learn a few things from The Messiah.

I shudder to imagine what she might think of Wells.

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I wonder how he knew I was being unironic? Maybe because what happens to Alex is so enviable that anyone would want to follow in his footsteps? Or is it that his dash round the interwebs looking for stuff on a book he knows fuck-all about didn't include a plot summary?
which Skepchick post is this from?

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John Greg wrote:It gets worse. She also describes Orwell's fictional works as:
... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
Mindlessness is rampant.
Well, to be fair, the proles read Orwell and Huxley. In public school, even. Which means it is far too pedestrian for real intellectuals to take seriously.

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Lsuoma wrote:
sacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
How to disable gif animations.
Cheers, Lsuoma. I can deal with the emoticons as long as they don't move or flash. I actually like the one with the big eyes that basically stands for WTF (named "shocked"). I don't completely want to remove .gifs, but for me, I suppose it is better than the alternative.

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Oh dear. We've gained a wood louse.

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xjustos... Hello Mabus!

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sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.

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Tigzy wrote:
sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.
Yep. Googling for this finds a lot of hits for posting on Zinnia Jones and a couple of other FfTBlogs, but the comments are no longer there.

The IP address is also listed at stopforumspam.com.

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He's been pestering AXP too. Bad move on his part, considering Martin's prediliction for dobbing people in to the authorities wherever possible: http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/2012/07 ... -sentence/

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