Periodic Table of Swearing

#501

Not to derail any serious conversation going on, but I just noticed there were over 100 registered members on this forum. I know numbers don't mean anything when it comes to substance, however considering that this place is only a little over a week old and we've practically had little to no endorsement from people in the skeptics/atheist community who are technically on our side against the FTBullies, I think Lsuoma and everyone else here deserves a pat on the back (in a professional, non-harassing, non-threatening, "safe-space" approved kinda way, of course ;) )

#502

Saint N. wrote: I think Lsuoma and everyone else here deserves a pat on the back (in a professional, non-harassing, non-threatening, "safe-space" approved kinda way, of course ;) )

Fuck that, everyone here is getting proper hearty bear-hug-style pats-on-the-backs! The sort that would make an Aussie proud.

#503

John Greg wrote:Phil G, in regards to your post (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... =400#p1356), no, we are not going to see any sort of a reasonable amount of Justicar ever again.

If you visit his blog (http://integralmath.blogspot.ca/), and I do not recommend that you do, you will see that Justi has completely flipped his lid, and is now obbsessed with pulling an FfTB on me, in particular (with outrageous and dishonest misrepresentation), and Slyme People in general, including dismissing and betraying all of his former friends at ERV, except Abbie, of course.

To all intents and purposes, in so far as approach, honesty, and rationality, though not content, goes Justicar is now, unquestionably, a full-blown Baboon.

And that, as they say, is that.

That's his choice, then. He's a free agent and probably knows what's best for him. It sucks that he's pilling up on some commenters (Franc and yourself, for exemple) out of a personal vendetta, but there's nothing to be done about it . Fucking shame, though, because his rational posts were undeniably grandiose in their deconstruction of the FC5 (6) fallacies. I'm not ashamed to say I will miss his inputs, and I still consider him some kind of friend I would not hesitate a second to invite him for beer. Just as I do consider Slimepitters in general...

#504

Git wrote:Fuck that, everyone here is getting proper hearty bear-hug-style pats-on-the-backs! The sort that would make an Aussie proud.

Fine, as long as there is no coffee involved. That shit's deadly, I hear.

I don't know if it's been linked to already here (I don't see it), but Russell has a neat post on the "no-hugging" policy: http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=5102

The discussion in the comments is worth checking out.

Scented Nectar · #505

Uh oh, it seems that using Reader to view posts, and gathering up my replies in Textpad so that I can do it all in one reply, I forgot that I would have to remember which thread or threads the following replies should be in. Argh, like I didn't dislike forums enough. :cry:

Dilurk, I'll add "Bad Form Rebecca" to the list. Not sure when exactly I'm going to make a new batch though. However, meanwhile, if you click customize on any of the buttons, you can remove the graphic and do a text button using Zazzles choices of fonts and sizes etc, with any text you like.

Franc, I've also been suspecting that Ofearya doesn't like me. She notes that I've corrected her showing where she did indeed use 'parallel logic', yet she doesn't seem at all happy that I've helped her be more accurate. Do I have body odour or something? Y she no grateful????

Phil, you didn't make it all about you. You explained an easy way to follow the thread. :)

#506

Dilurk wrote:I have never seem the slimepitters pile on and bully someone for making a comment, unlike the other guys. That to me is what adults do, respect each others ideas even if they disagree. I don't see that in many places, so I'd rather have the occasional bad word and respect then the nice pink fluffy kitten wording elsewhere with no respect. That's my take on it.

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I think there was a lot of pent up anger due to the ban hammering, the mansplaining (Why does PZ get to tell me what I should feel?) the hypocrisy. Personally I wish y'all would grow up and accept atheists are not going to agree on 100% of everything, just get on with the real battle. I hope that can happen sometime, but I am not holding my breath.

The funny thing is, if I stated that on PZs blog, I'd be shouted down for talking with those slimepitters. I don't expect to be piled on here at all. I will be disagreed with sure, but respected. You tell me which is worse.

There's a reason I posted here instead of on a FtB... and honestly, I lean more towards supporting their underlying views than some of the views I've seen expressed outside or here, but I really don't believe that FtB could be considered an open forum for discussion. I do appreciate this 'slyme pit' for that reason, even with it's strong anti-FtB bias (well... since it's the basis for it's founding).

Parge wrote:Very likely, although I don't think you'd find any takers if Laden was offering hugs. I really don't understand why everyone keeps piling on Franc. Sure, he pushes buttons. I think he aims to be just as offensive as his targets are. It's subjective, I know, but I don't really see the offensiveness imbalance. You'd think those little hand grenades - the bad werds, the funny pictures - were his only contribution to this ongoing discussion. Go and read that commentary on TamTamPamela he linked to earlier and see if he resembles the monster you've made him up to be in your brain.

To be fair, I have read through his blog and he's not a monster. Maybe. I truly don't think he's just an offensive oaf, but his near-creepy obsession with gang-banging the dead-horse of "FTB Baboons" is a bit off-putting. Obviously he's not the only one with a vendetta to act out, but it's very on-display. Plus, it's easy to toss in 'but not Hoggle' in places. Plus, it makes me think of this:
http://i.imgur.com/DZm46.jpg

As a tangent, I do want to touch on something, since you mentioned Greg Laden (and I don't feel like responding to anything else because I'm lazy): Laden is an interesting case. I've read his blogs for quite a while and I generally enjoy reading it. That said, he was utterly wrong in his email and subsequent responses to Justin Griffith. That email he sent really DOES qualify as bullying -- and I don't mean the pseudo-physical threat he made at the end, which is just hot air. While I wouldn't expect anyone to stop being his friend over it, I was disappointed in a few people for trying to make excuses for and stick up for him. I'll continue reading Laden's blogs for Linux tidbits or what-not, but he has some legitimate anger issues that need to be addressed.

#507

I doubt Justicar will be back.

I had my suspicions about him over the months - he seemed to have a couple of outbreaks of Baboonitis. The last attack sent him overboard.

#508

Scented Nectar.

Good to see you (however briefly). Even if you don't want to post here often, do drop by to alert us to any comment pieces you've written, or, even better, videos of PZ and Twitson singing! :D

#509

a nice sound bite from that blog post:

"Women should be respected (provided that they have earned it, as with men and all people)..."

James Onen wrote:Sexism and Atheism, the Rebecca Watson and PZ Myers conundrum:

This is yet another non-issue, Ms. Watson. You and Myers have taken something that is small, and incredibly easy to deal with and inflated it with importance, just as you did with the elevator issue. I am not writing this to insult you. I am writing this because I hope that some part of you legitimately understands that what is happening here is pointless, and having the atheist community focus on this is a waste of time.
https://lucien0maverick.wordpress.com/2 ... conundrum/

#510

Git wrote: Fuck that, everyone here is getting proper hearty bear-hug-style pats-on-the-backs! The sort that would make an Aussie proud.

We've been through this already. Don't come fucking near me.

#511

Caede, in http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... =500#p1371, said:

There's a reason I posted here instead of on a FtB... and honestly, I lean more towards supporting their underlying views than some of the views I've seen expressed outside or here, but I really don't believe that FtB could be considered an open forum for discussion.

I think this, in important ways, highlights what, at least in my understanding, the whole Slimepit idea is all about: You do not have to agree with us, even slightly, so long as when you post your disagreement you don't just descend into the drivel and dribble of yelling at anyone with whom you disagree, and explaining why they are WRONG, and why they are therefore SEXIST, MRA, etc., etc., and also so long as you at least put some effort into explaining why you disagree -- not because We're all wrong, but points and arguments that actually explain why you disagree.

The FfTB and Skepchick ghettoes completely misunderstand this fundamental yet basic premise of skeptcism and intellectual discussion and debate.

Phil G, I too will miss some of his better arguments and discussion, but his deep and irrational hostility, dishonesty, and hurtful personal insults, well, as I say: full blown FfTB.

#512

The visual that my mind created upon reading this line was hilarious. I pictured dwarf porn.
I presume I am the one filming...

Caede wrote:I have images in my head of a toddler PZ, a toddler John Greg, a toddler Rebecca Watson, a toddler Paula Kirby, a creepy grown Hoggle, a toddler Abbie... all running around, smearing jam in each other's hair and then crying to their mommies. No one is clean, everyone is a mess.

LMU · #513

I agree with Caede and John Greg: the main reason I comment here instead of FTB is because the Slyme Pit is *civil*. It becomes much harder to tell what is actually correct when people are throwing their emotions all over everything, so much so that if their arguments are right, then it is only by coincidence. There are some exceptions, but they aren't anywhere near to threatening to rape people with porcupines in every thread.

I think it is amusing that FTB seems to paint all slimepitters with the same brush: Slimepitters are like that because they just want to sin! Also; they eat babies!

Random atheist thought: I'm sure this isn't original but it did just occur to me: can you use Rule 34 to disprove the existence of god? If it exists there is porn of it, therefore if there is no porn of it, it does not exist. Is there any porn of an all-omni being?

#514

Make sure you pussies get all the hugs you need, before I arrive... What a bunch of chicks.

If you want to complement and show your appreciation to a friend, the only way to go is sarcasm. Take the piss. If they misunderstand, (they are most likely Merkin) they did not deserve the praise in the first place.

fucking mushy displays of affection are nauseating.

Git wrote:
Saint N. wrote: I think Lsuoma and everyone else here deserves a pat on the back (in a professional, non-harassing, non-threatening, "safe-space" approved kinda way, of course ;) )
Fuck that, everyone here is getting proper hearty bear-hug-style pats-on-the-backs! The sort that would make an Aussie proud.

#515

sacha wrote:Make sure you pussies get all the hugs you need, before I arrive... What a bunch of chicks.

If you want to complement and show your appreciation to a friend, the only way to go is sarcasm. Take the piss. If they misunderstand, (they are most likely Merkin) they did not deserve the praise in the first place.

fucking mushy displays of affection are nauseating.

Oh yeah, a kindred spirit.

#516

Hi Nectar. It's a pleasure to see you.

If we are planning to try out the blog that Lsuoma so graciously took the time to create, perhaps we should do that soon, as there are only six pages of this thread to move at this point.

Does anyone oppose the idea of giving it a go?

#517

How is your new house shaping up, Lsuoma?

#518

sacha wrote:Regarding OB deleting a comment that asks about her allowing Laden to continue to comment on her blog, it seems as though they honestly believe no one will catch their hypocrisy and double standards.
It's well beyond Dunning-Kruger.
How can OB believe that by deleting a comment, it will be gone forever, after we have exhaustively documented, and taken screen shots of everything before it is deleted?

Screen shots are so old-school, why not use http://webcitation.org/? *re-lurk*

#519

Sorry, but I like the format of the Periodic thread, as it works exactly like a blog, with the added bonus of not having to log in or register to post. I don't see the interest of moving this thread to a blog form.

of course, if anyone disagrees, I will be glad to addapt to any format it takes.

#520

Caede wrote:
Dilurk wrote:I have never seem the slimepitters pile on and bully someone for making a comment, unlike the other guys. That to me is what adults do, respect each others ideas even if they disagree. I don't see that in many places, so I'd rather have the occasional bad word and respect then the nice pink fluffy kitten wording elsewhere with no respect. That's my take on it.

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I think there was a lot of pent up anger due to the ban hammering, the mansplaining (Why does PZ get to tell me what I should feel?) the hypocrisy. Personally I wish y'all would grow up and accept atheists are not going to agree on 100% of everything, just get on with the real battle. I hope that can happen sometime, but I am not holding my breath.

The funny thing is, if I stated that on PZs blog, I'd be shouted down for talking with those slimepitters. I don't expect to be piled on here at all. I will be disagreed with sure, but respected. You tell me which is worse.
There's a reason I posted here instead of on a FtB... and honestly, I lean more towards supporting their underlying views than some of the views I've seen expressed outside or here, but I really don't believe that FtB could be considered an open forum for discussion. I do appreciate this 'slyme pit' for that reason, even with it's strong anti-FtB bias (well... since it's the basis for it's founding).

eh? How do you know? ;-) That's the thing here. Everyone here is a free thinker, I don't think the same as hoggle or SN or anyone else on here. Sometimes some of us might even agree with something said on FtB. Imagine that. That's the beauty with not being piled upon and bullied. Maybe there is something you have not considered, or I have not considered that's what civil discussion is all about between adults.

Parge wrote:Very likely, although I don't think you'd find any takers if Laden was offering hugs. I really don't understand why everyone keeps piling on Franc. Sure, he pushes buttons. I think he aims to be just as offensive as his targets are. It's subjective, I know, but I don't really see the offensiveness imbalance. You'd think those little hand grenades - the bad werds, the funny pictures - were his only contribution to this ongoing discussion. Go and read that commentary on TamTamPamela he linked to earlier and see if he resembles the monster you've made him up to be in your brain.
To be fair, I have read through his blog and he's not a monster. Maybe. I truly don't think he's just an offensive oaf, but his near-creepy obsession with gang-banging the dead-horse of "FTB Baboons" is a bit off-putting. Obviously he's not the only one with a vendetta to act out, but it's very on-display. Plus, it's easy to toss in 'but not Hoggle' in places. Plus, it makes me think of this:
http://i.imgur.com/DZm46.jpg

I have sometimes wondered myself if the hoggle was being too obsessive about the "FTB Baboons" as well, but he is a passionate person. I appreciate he took the time to stand up to the bullies, point out they were not at all Freethinkers and make sure their revisionism of history was documented. He's been doing very little now that the word is out. meh He can defend himself.

As a tangent, I do want to touch on something, since you mentioned Greg Laden (and I don't feel like responding to anything else because I'm lazy): Laden is an interesting case. I've read his blogs for quite a while and I generally enjoy reading it. That said, he was utterly wrong in his email and subsequent responses to Justin Griffith. That email he sent really DOES qualify as bullying -- and I don't mean the pseudo-physical threat he made at the end, which is just hot air. While I wouldn't expect anyone to stop being his friend over it, I was disappointed in a few people for trying to make excuses for and stick up for him. I'll continue reading Laden's blogs for Linux tidbits or what-not, but he has some legitimate anger issues that need to be addressed.

Please note that I for one see bullying of any sort to be bad, I don't accept it is o.k. to bully anyone just because they are a FtB blogger. Of course I am talking about Cristina here. I cannot speak for others on here, but I rather suspect others here feel the same way. What I do not find acceptable is FfTB folks bullying others and not noticing they are bullies themselves. That is hypocrisy.

#521

sacha wrote:How is your new house shaping up, Lsuoma?

Apartment, but thanks for asking. No unpacking done as yet.

WFYBI, though? I may have to move back to Redmond next month. Job is screwing me around big-time...

#522

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry, but I like the format of the Periodic thread, as it works exactly like a blog, with the added bonus of not having to log in or register to post. I don't see the interest of moving this thread to a blog form.

of course, if anyone disagrees, I will be glad to addapt to any format it takes.

I'm with Phil on this one. I much prefer this - the options for quoting, formatting, etc., are way more flexible and manageable...

#523

The only bummer is that this style thread doesn't fit nicely into my ipod screen as the erv ones. I have to scroll back and forth. Why didn't anyone think of me?

I'm too busy with banking at the moment to post much. Problem?

#524

Lol @ Munkhaus!

Shameless self promotion, I did all ,the choirs on this upcoming album by Kerion:

http://soundcloud.com/kerion_official/e ... ht-extract

Female lead singer, for you misogynists...

#525

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry, but I like the format of the Periodic thread, as it works exactly like a blog, with the added bonus of not having to log in or register to post. I don't see the interest of moving this thread to a blog form.

of course, if anyone disagrees, I will be glad to addapt to any format it takes.

Agreed.

That is all.

#526

I'd laugh at Munkhaus, but I am too busy at the moment trying to decide if I am too busy to laugh at Munkhaus.

#527

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Lol @ Munkhaus!

Shameless self promotion, I did all ,the choirs on this upcoming album by Kerion:

http://soundcloud.com/kerion_official/e ... ht-extract

Female lead singer, for you misogynists...

I looked up the band on Wikipedia after listening to the clip (I really like symphonic metal btw, nice work). Unfortunately, the only reference to Kerion was this:

Kerion is the result of the host's response to a fungal ringworm infection of the hair follicles of the scalp and beard accompanied by secondary bacterial infection(s). It usually presents itself as raised, spongy lesions. This honeycomb is severely painful inflammatory reaction with deep suppurative lesion on the scalp. The follicle may be seen discharging pus. there may be sinus formation and rarely mycetoma like grains are produced.It is usually caused by Zoophilic dermatophytes like T. verrucosum and T. mentagrophytes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerion

:lol:

#528

Important note:

There is a new Elevatorgate Timeline at http://ohthehumanityofitall.blogspot.ca ... art-1.html.

I have not yet examined it for accuracy or bias, after all I am at work at the moment. But if anyone else wants to dig in and have a go....

#529

Well, I'll be mostly lurking anyway, but we've got a proper preview here, quoting is way easier... and maybe there's even a multiquote plugin around for phpBB?
And I guess, there's probably some plugin available to improve support for mobile devices, too. (That would make me happy, too, as I could look the Pit up during my train rides to/from the office.)

But, let's hope Lsuoma doesn't have to move around too much, and maybe if he can get around to it, the odd plugin might be installed to please us even more.

#530

John Greg wrote:Important note:

There is a new Elevatorgate Timeline at http://ohthehumanityofitall.blogspot.ca ... art-1.html.

I have not yet examined it for accuracy or bias, after all I am at work at the moment. But if anyone else wants to dig in and have a go....

I saw that and mentioned it earlier on here, but there are more comments now. ugh. The comment from Adam is new.

#531

Aw, fuck it. That new timeline is biased as hell. It might as well have been written by an FfTB host.

I don't unerstand the kind of mentality that can say "Although I shall try to be an unbiased as possible in preparing this chronicle, I find myself sympathetic towards Rebecca Watson and her fellow skeptics in this matter" thereby admitting right from the start that they are biased, and then almost immediately this writer starts using insults, dismissive tone, ad hominems, and a wide range of saying, in effect, don't bother listening to anyone on the anti_watson side: they have nothing to say.

And of Course JasonShitforBrains is gobbling it up: http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... -timeline/ .

God, some days these people just make me puke. Uneducated, deceitful, intellectually vacuous waste of air.

#532

I'll just leave this here.

http://i.imgur.com/bujd6.jpg

#533

@John Greg
It's utterly biased. It's the usual propaganda that someone has swallowed hook line and stinker.
It amazes me that the person believes that they are being largely objective! Ah, the mammalian brain.

#534

I like this forum - especially the PTOS thread.

It functions to all intents and purposes like the old ERV thread, but you can (if you are registered) check all the posts that have been posted since you last checked.

Soon enough, this will be the thread that the Baboons start to fear again, and perhaps want to shut down!

Keep calling their bullshit and hypocrisy out.

#535

John Greg wrote:Aw, fuck it. That new timeline is biased as hell. It might as well have been written by an FfTB host.

I don't unerstand the kind of mentality that can say "Although I shall try to be an unbiased as possible in preparing this chronicle, I find myself sympathetic towards Rebecca Watson and her fellow skeptics in this matter" thereby admitting right from the start that they are biased, and then almost immediately this writer starts using insults, dismissive tone, ad hominems, and a wide range of saying, in effect, don't bother listening to anyone on the anti_watson side: they have nothing to say.

And of Course JasonShitforBrains is gobbling it up: http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... -timeline/ .

God, some days these people just make me puke. Uneducated, deceitful, intellectually vacuous waste of air.

That was my conclusion as well. Very biased, the comments are very nasty. Almost as though they wanted to demonize another group.

#536

Munkhaus wrote:The only bummer is that this style thread doesn't fit nicely into my ipod screen as the erv ones. I have to scroll back and forth. Why didn't anyone think of me?

I'm too busy with banking at the moment to post much. Problem?

You know, at the time I posted this, I was thinking, I wonder how this forum will look on Munkhauses's ipod. And then I shuddered, and said, "Banking will have to wait! Something is not available on the mobile Internet!!!!" Change will only occur if can find the time to be perturbed (or to get your jimmies rustled or whatever the kids are calling it today).

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 374225.jpg

Lsuoma, a second request!

#537

Munkhaus wrote:@John Greg
It's utterly biased. It's the usual propaganda that someone has swallowed hook line and stinker.
It amazes me that the person believes that they are being largely objective! Ah, the mammalian brain.

It is mass cognitive dissonance suffered by all the Baboons and their followers. They actually believe the FfTB narrative is "winning" as one commentator put it, and the rest of us are "on the wrong side of history". :lol: Perhaps they don't quite see the size of the backlash against them in recent weeks. Further, I'd love to get some opinion from those at TAM2012 about what they think. I reckon the opinion will be very negative towards the FC5 POV, and most of them will be very happy that Twitson, the Baboon King, and Opheliar are staying art home to sulk and circle jerk.

#538

Here's a picture of bully Greg Laden about to launch another attack...

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/b/b ... g-7659.jpg

#539

lost control wrote: But, let's hope Lsuoma doesn't have to move around too much, and maybe if he can get around to it, the odd plugin might be installed to please us even more.

Here's some homework for someone, then. See if you can find a MOD that makes phpBB3 mobile-friendly - I'll take a look at implementing it over the weekend.

I know someone did suggest it early on, and there may have been a link there: I'll try and check this evening, but if anyone can come up with it in the meantime, knock yourself out...

#540

Lsuoma wrote:
lost control wrote: But, let's hope Lsuoma doesn't have to move around too much, and maybe if he can get around to it, the odd plugin might be installed to please us even more.
Here's some homework for someone, then. See if you can find a MOD that makes phpBB3 mobile-friendly - I'll take a look at implementing it over the weekend.

I know someone did suggest it early on, and there may have been a link there: I'll try and check this evening, but if anyone can come up with it in the meantime, knock yourself out...

Got it: it was Parge. Will look later.

BTW, a useful post at Brayhorse's place...

#541

Lsuoma wrote:
lost control wrote: But, let's hope Lsuoma doesn't have to move around too much, and maybe if he can get around to it, the odd plugin might be installed to please us even more.
Here's some homework for someone, then. See if you can find a MOD that makes phpBB3 mobile-friendly - I'll take a look at implementing it over the weekend.

I know someone did suggest it early on, and there may have been a link there: I'll try and check this evening, but if anyone can come up with it in the meantime, knock yourself out...

Since I suggested the commenting mod, Im taking that as directed at me.

In anycase, all I can find in 30 seconds of half-assed searching is the following: http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/p ... tion_width

#542

@Caede:

There's a reason I posted here instead of on a FtB... and honestly, I lean more towards supporting their underlying views than some of the views I've seen expressed outside or here, but I really don't believe that FtB could be considered an open forum for discussion. I do appreciate this 'slyme pit' for that reason, even with it's strong anti-FtB bias (well... since it's the basis for it's founding).

What underlying views? how do those views differ? Do the views actually differ or are you accepting the FTB version of other peoples' views?

To be fair, I have read through his blog and he's not a monster. Maybe. I truly don't think he's just an offensive oaf, but his near-creepy obsession with gang-banging the dead-horse of "FTB Baboons" is a bit off-putting. Obviously he's not the only one with a vendetta to act out, but it's very on-display. Plus, it's easy to toss in 'but not Hoggle' in places.

The "FTB Baboons" horse is not dead, unfortunately. Why do you think that it's a vendetta?

The point of a skeptic community is not necessarily to find points of agreement. The point of much of FTB (Pharyngula in particular) is to browbeat everyone into accepting that that they are RIGHT, to the degree that they won't even discuss it. Rebuttals are "obsession" or "cyberstalking", correcting facts makes you a "kook" or "too stupid to breathe", self-defense makes it "all about you". Comments are deleted, posters banned and history re-written. FTB are a political entity, not a freethought community.

I find myself asking why I spend time on online atheism/skepticism. The easy answer is that religious delusions damage thinking processes, woo and denialism hurts people, science and the environment. But what does following blogs and adding "me too's" and slightly differing views actually do. In my case I think it's actually a reaction to the almost painful frustration at being exposed to this irrational bullshit in person and in the media day in and day out. TBH, this online stuff is a release valve. Is FTB not motivated by the same thing, but with more of an evangelical and spitefully vengeful edge? They have somehow convinced themselves that failure to bend the knee to their definitions of words is going to have some kind of detrimental effect on gender equality. They have confused inconsequential bitch fests with actual, meaningful action. They have delusions of importance, they are on some kind of world-changing crusade.

Regarding PZ, he is nasty for the sake of being nasty. There is a difference between refusing to show deference to sincerely held irrational beliefs and writing intemperate screeds condemning all the religious. He's at war. Fuck him and his narrow-minded little war.

#543

I have found the obsession with certain people to be tedious - I prefer ideas (or left field humour totally unrelated to the thread direction).

I can't speak for the Hogglinator, but I suspect that he would wear the picture posted by caede with some pride.

#544

Well, I agree with Phil, now that Lsuoma has set it up where we can easily bypass the forum, made it an ongoing thread, and got rid of the editing, censoring, tone, and language control. Even he seems more relaxed about it.

My preference is an ongoing conversation (which does not even have to be about the baboons). I like relaxing in the morning, having my tea, and reading the comments I missed while sleeping.
The only reason I took a leave of absence from Abbie's, was that I had a week or two when I did not have time to keep up with the discussion. I did not want to comment without reading all of the posts I had not seen, and I simply did not have the time to catch up after that. I had a difficult time even attempting to keep up with the baboons and their drama. I peeked in on Abbie's thread semi-regularly just for an overview, or when one sent me a link to a comment, and I never stopped reading her science blog.

When I returned, I realised that I had missed being a part of it. Plus there were all these new commenters willing to associate with themselves with the slime pit, and add their knowledge and perspective to the dialog.

I had no interest in another forum, I was not planning to participate here until he started this thread, and I saw that he was trying to create a place that was similar to the original.

I have no complaints, it now feels similar to the original at Abbie's place (especially because Abbie herself is now participating). People like Phil have began to post commentary, instead of just lurking, Those that have been here a bit, seem to like it, even Nectar has, although reluctantly (yes, that was meant to be humorous), decided to give it a go (at least for a few posts to start). I'm in contact with others who were waiting to see if stayed true to the original, and they are planning to join soon. I'll post at the blog instead, if that is preferable to others. It really does not matter to me.

Lsuoma went out of his way to make this as close to the original as he could. He took a lot of time to find out what would make the majority happy and comfortable, and he changed a lot of things that were raised as issues. He wanted to make sure to show Abbie respect for creating the original. He asked for advice, created polls, and took the time to email those he felt were important, who had not joined, and ask what he could do to change that. I know he wrote Abbie numerous times to ask her opinions, get her advice, and to make sure she was pleased with the place that would continue what she began. After all, it was Abbie's strength, ethics, generosity, and courage that allowed the thread to become what it was. He wanted to make sure she felt it was a respectful tribute.
He also took the time to email Nectar in order to find out the reasons for her to decline the invitation, and see if he could do anything to change her mind. He worked with a lot of different people and listened when they recommended a better way to do things.

for someone who was referred to as the "FNG", I think he did a very good job.

I think that is quite enough praise, at least from me, and don't fucking think I'm giving you a hug.

Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Sorry, but I like the format of the Periodic thread, as it works exactly like a blog, with the added bonus of not having to log in or register to post. I don't see the interest of moving this thread to a blog form.

of course, if anyone disagrees, I will be glad to addapt to any format it takes.
I'm with Phil on this one. I much prefer this - the options for quoting, formatting, etc., are way more flexible and manageable...

#545

Lsuoma wrote: BTW, a useful post at Brayhorse's place...

Church Vandalized With Pro-Atheist Messages

This is all second hand via The Wimpy Atheist anyway, but the pics on his blog and the police report indicate that a swastika was featured; the A in atheist was circled - which is an anarchist thing - and there were booze containers about. In other words this is drunken local teenagers spraying anything they think might upset the old folks. It's nothing to do with atheism

Sayeth Brayton:

Great idea. I just donated $25 to the cause. I hope youâ€™ll consider doing so as well, if you can afford it.

Well I can't afford it, and if could I wouldn't. Yes I know "atheists came together with the church to support a local charity" and we wouldn't want them to have an excuse to say "some evil atheist(s) did this awful damage", but they'll say that anyway. Meeting theists halfway in a good cause (though what cause isn't specified) is one thing. Chipping in to re-furbish a house of delusion is another.

#546

Lsuoma wrote:
lost control wrote: But, let's hope Lsuoma doesn't have to move around too much, and maybe if he can get around to it, the odd plugin might be installed to please us even more.
Here's some homework for someone, then. See if you can find a MOD that makes phpBB3 mobile-friendly - I'll take a look at implementing it over the weekend.

I know someone did suggest it early on, and there may have been a link there: I'll try and check this evening, but if anyone can come up with it in the meantime, knock yourself out...

Tapatalk is a great app. The server app is free, but the Android/Apple app is around $1.99-$2.99

Website: http://tapatalk.com/
phpBB download: http://tapatalk.com/activate_tapatalk.php?plugin=phpbb

I use Tapatalk on my iPhone for all the forums I visit, much better than trying to navigate in the web browser.

#547

real horrorshow wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: BTW, a useful post at Brayhorse's place...

Church Vandalized With Pro-Atheist Messages
This is all second hand via The Wimpy Atheist anyway, but the pics on his blog and the police report indicate that a swastika was featured; the A in atheist was circled - which is an anarchist thing - and there were booze containers about. In other words this is drunken local teenagers spraying anything they think might upset the old folks. It's nothing to do with atheism

Sayeth Brayton:
Great idea. I just donated $25 to the cause. I hope youâ€™ll consider doing so as well, if you can afford it.
Well I can't afford it, and if could I wouldn't. Yes I know "atheists came together with the church to support a local charity" and we wouldn't want them to have an excuse to say "some evil atheist(s) did this awful damage", but they'll say that anyway. Meeting theists halfway in a good cause (though what cause isn't specified) is one thing. Chipping in to re-furbish a house of delusion is another.

Hemant says they'll figure out which local charity to donate to together with the pastor, so hopefully they won't pick one supporting ignorance.

#548

xtog42 in comment 19 nailed it beautifully!

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ment-97679

#549

My comment:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ment-97693

[Troll Alert!]

Sounds like natural selection in action.

Those who like being harassed and those who like to do so, will go.
Those who do not care for either, will not go.

Sounds like a win/win/win situation.

[/Troll Alert!]

#550

Bullshit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

#551

Despite the evidence that all the time in the past the vandalism has been done from within the church community, PZ buys into the "atheists did it" meme and tells everyone the stereotype "Guys don't do it" as well. Crap, the guy can't get parodied - he's a parody of himself. The way he falls for the spin is just...wow. I seriously hope he avoids political tv - and the infomercials. He probably has a load of Sham-Wows and the like. Can anybody explain how he came to be associated with skepticism?

#552

Some of those comments inspired me to post my troll bait, but I was not the only one:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ment-97692

I sure hope the local police have stocked up on rape examination kits. They are, unfortunately, going to need a bunch before TAM is over.

PS Looks like Svan thinks this person is serious? *scratching head*

#553

ERV wrote:Bullshit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

I bet Becky is dancing for joy over this publicity. This is nauseating. Harassment at meetings and cons is almost nonexistent, but the PZ/Watson cult has managed to turn this into a "rapists everywhere" bruhaha. They don't care that their made-up stories are severely harming the atheist/skeptical communities, all they care about is advancing their agenda of power and control no matter the cost. I sincerely hope Paula Kirby writes a detailed and blunt response to this article in the Post. Hell, she should just publish a condensed version of her wonderful "Sisterhood" article.

#554

ERV wrote:Bullshit:

I posted the link over at the Svan thread. I am interested to see what the usual suspects make of it.

#555

I love that t-shirt the woman is wearing. Another sign of the upwelling of resistance towards crybabies Stefunny, Opheliar (fuck off Ophelia, please), Peezus, Twitson, and co.

We are growing...

#556

Misogynist â€@Yers1n1aPest1s

Just in: "Busload of predators on their way to #TAM2012 to take advantage of their lacking harassment policy"! #Adultdiapers #FTBullies

This was in response to Ashley F. Miller's tweet about the lack of harassment policy and how it is a "welcome mat for predators".

:lol:

Why do Ifeel people are going to absolutely roast her for that.

Guest · #557

Ophelia is very much not happy about the photograph Justin Vacula posted at 2:37 above: (msg #24 at her post "Boy am I glad Iâ€™m not in Las Vegas")

Magicthighs â€“ quite so. Iâ€™m not kidding when I say Iâ€™m glad Iâ€™m not there! Boy am I not kidding. I was looking forward to it until DJ dropped his bomb â€“ and after that I was dreading it. Now it looks like sheer hell, all full of giggling feminist-haters. Bleargh.

No, Ophelia, people that disagree with your ridiculous assertion that a harassment policy is of some vital importance are not "feminist-haters", but you are correct about the "giggling" part - myself and lots of other feminists have been laughing at you clowns for more than a year now.

#558

AndrewV69 wrote:
ERV wrote:Bullshit:
I posted the link over at the Svan thread. I am interested to see what the usual suspects make of it.

They'll love it. The more baboon shit they can throw around in public, the more they love it.

There are good reasons that #FTBullies hashtag took off.

#559

Guest wrote:Ophelia is very much not happy about the photograph Justin Vacula posted at 2:37 above: (msg #24 at her post "Boy am I glad Iâ€™m not in Las Vegas")

I'm shocked that Opheliar is not very happy about something. I'm sure so goes out of her way to find things to take offence at. Except when it comes to accepting Greg Laden is a nasty fucking bully. :evil:

Of the FC5, Opheliar is the scary, wide-eyed wacky one. Has been for a few months now.

#560

Apparently, this guy was spotted in Las Vegas minutes ago...

http://actionflickchick.com/superaction ... dator2.jpg