The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

[Scented Nectar]

Regarding Zinnia Jones, has anyone else heard the rumor that she talked a lot more about this case on the FTB backchannel and what she said there is a lot more explosive for the case than what she has made public so far?

If I were on Mannings defence team I'd be requesting a copy of all the FTB backchannel communication immediately.

OMFSM!!! You're right. Even if she denies she said anything on the backchannel, I think they'd have to check anyways. Is it bad of me to be chuckling at the thought? :lol:

[Scented Nectar]

This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
X0EJLEnnfto

Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!

I'm not sure, but I think the concept was that it was RW talking but using PZ as her ventriloquist's dummy. That's why it keeps cutting to RW face moving but not her lips... and she appears to have a hand up his skirt. I think it's a wonderful statement of their relationship, if a bit disturbing as a visual.

Yes, I think he was "mounted" on her hand, ventriloquist style. :)

[welch]

Oh Noes!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b0ed2d.jpg

Another fantasy destroyed. Oh well, at least I'll save money on Kleenex and Jergens Lotion.

Melissa: " well, now we know what she'll look like when she gets older....annnd has a sex change."

[masakari2012]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

[Jan Steen]

"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.

I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.

I have the impression that 'cis' is used in order to avoid 'normal' or, even worse, 'real'. I have no problem with this, except that certain SJWs now tend to add 'cis' to the items on the privilege bingo card (as in 'cis, white, straight, middle-aged male.'), which is mildly annoying. I mean, it is not objectively wrong to point out privilege (a statistical parameter of sorts), but playing bingo with it is annoying.

[Dilurk]

I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:

She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.

Hahaha, spot on.

The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've

Exactly right. In fact, the idiots who do identify as trans* on the Internet are often the worst "ambassadors" for a simple mis-wiring in the brain. It's far better to educate rather than be uncivil and hit people over the head with it. These idiots have even gone out of their way to try and recruit those "gender traitors" into their political army of trans*. Thats as rude and ignorant as telling an atheist they have a religion.

used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."

Sadly no, there isn't. But is there really a need to?

[Dilurk]

"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.

I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.

I have the impression that 'cis' is used in order to avoid 'normal' or, even worse, 'real'. I have no problem with this, except that certain SJWs now tend to add 'cis' to the items on the privilege bingo card (as in 'cis, white, straight, middle-aged male.'), which is mildly annoying. I mean, it is not objectively wrong to point out privilege (a statistical parameter of sorts), but playing bingo with it is annoying.

Quite right. We are all dealt a set of cards at birth, it is up to ourselves to take responsibility for ourselves and do what needs to be done and not whinge about it.

[Tkmlac]

Oh Noes!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b0ed2d.jpg

Another fantasy destroyed. Oh well, at least I'll save money on Kleenex and Jergens Lotion.

Melissa: " well, now we know what she'll look like when she gets older....annnd has a sex change."

I'd say those are pretty good shop'd skills, but shop'd nonetheless. No way they have the exact same mouth and nose.

[codelette]

From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:

Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.

Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.

[Bhurzum]

I'm not sure, but I think the concept was that it was RW talking but using PZ as her ventriloquist's dummy. That's why it keeps cutting to RW face moving but not her lips... and she appears to have a hand up his skirt. I think it's a wonderful statement of their relationship, if a bit disturbing as a visual.

Yup.

I totally got that. The "sermon on the mounted" title was a dead giveaway :D

[Al Stefanelli]

From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:

Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit. [/quote

http://skepticfreethought.com/wp-conten ... tfface.jpg

[cunt]

From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:

Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.

Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.

I love that their concern is always for the amount of fans they have and not the arguments themselves. He's basically arguing for mob-rule.

[Notung]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Yes I saw tha... DELETED? These people are really scared of opposing views, aren't they?

[Al Stefanelli]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Yes I saw tha... DELETED? These people are really scared of opposing views, aren't they?

Why am I not surprised...

[cunt]

Lets put it to a vote, should we bring back hanging in the united kingdom? Well, the sensible arguments say that this is barbaric and unbecoming of a modern civilised society but fuck that let's go on how many likes we can get on Facebook.

[Tkmlac]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

[Zenspace]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

masakari2012, thanks for the screencap and sharing that. Unfortunately, you confirm what others have previously reported, that Adam Lee has addopted censorship as a legitimate tool to falsify the level of acceptance of his propogandic bullshit. Note the 8 up votes vs the 2 down votes at the bottom, and that is on Lee's own blog. Noelplum99 is as impressive as usual, landing some seriously solid roundhouse punches to Lee's increasingly flawed screed.

[welch]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

He's an improved version of Rhys. Older, doesn't say cunt as much. Probably able to drink legally in the US.

Tat would be the list of "improvements" mind you.

[ReneeHendricks]

Ugh. I go off for the night to cavort and generally be silly with my guy and come back to a shit ton of stuff I need to read up on. Damn it! Internet World, slow the fuck down!

[Jan Steen]

From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:

Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.

Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.

For the record, I fully support this item in Adam Lee's petition:

We support making the atheist movement more diverse and inclusive.

This. Let's stop inviting the same tired old speakers from FreeThoughtBlogs and Skepchick, who recycle their lectures at every opportunity, and give new and more competent speakers a chance at atheist/skeptic conferences. Derail the gravy train.

Oh, that's not what you intended?

[ERV]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

[Al Stefanelli]

Ugh. I go off for the night to cavort and generally be silly with my guy and come back to a shit ton of stuff I need to read up on. Damn it! Internet World, slow the fuck down!

No shit, eh? I tap on my SP link on my phone and see there are two pages I need to catch up on. Then, I think, fuck no I am not reading all that shit on a four inch screen. By the time I get to my computer, another two pages comes up.

Of course, this is a very good thing. :)

[somedumbguy]

A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/

N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?

I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.

[somedumbguy]

A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/

N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?

I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.

I've seen far more nudity at Huffington Post, Daily Mail, etc.
I've seen far more explicit discussions of an adult sexual nature at feminist sites.

[Zenspace]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

He has been an atheist blogger for a fair number of years and used to be a pretty good one, too. I used to follow him regularly. He started out as 'Ebonmuse' and ran his own sight 'Daylight Atheism' page for several years. His main claim to fame was being cited in Richard Dawkins' 'The God Delusion' as a typical up-and-coming atheist site. About a year or two ago, he joined the Big Think group. He was still doing OK at that point and slowly growing a following. Around that time he started doing speaker gigs as well and that must be when he hooked up with the FtB/Skepchik crowd. He stayed below the radar with the rad-fem stuff for the most part, except for occasional attack commentary on his blog, usually aimed at specific individuals who were not toeing the A+ line with sufficient perfection. The mask was finally dropped with his incredibly misleading propaganda piece promoting A+ on Salon. No doubt the kool-aid had taken over much earlier, but that was where he threw it into the open. Ever since he has become an increasingly immature, priggish, authoritarian, self-rightious, arrogant little prick (did I miss anything there?). And now we can willfully closeminded censor to the list, too. What is entertaining is to watch, when outside of his protected environment, just how fast he does the duck and run when he goes head to head with someone like Al Stefanelli or Noelplum99 or anyone else who can cut through his logical house of cards in seconds.

He was once a promising addition to the atheist community, now he is just another slavering lapdog for RW and and friends.

[masakari2012]

This was brought to my attention by a disagreer...

[ReneeHendricks]

Another gang rape in India - http://www.komonews.com/news/national/6 ... 88701.html - but the bigger picture is, obviously, dumbass tweets/comments/etal that "harass and bully" people like Ophelia Benson, Stephanie Zvan, Rebecca Watson, and Jennifer McCreight.

[Zenspace]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.

[ERV]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.

*thumbs-up* Thanks!

[BrianAllenAptJ]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

[codelette]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

It is an Adam dude, just not Lee. His last name escapes me. I think he's part of CFI somewhere.

[Jan Steen]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

Just another dishonest piece of shit who emulates creationists by propagating lies and who deletes comments from his blog by people who disagree with him. He could be a typical FTBer. Nothing new under the sun.

[Gumby]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Obviously, it was too calm, logical and reasonable to remain on Adam Lee's blog. Lee is an insufferable twit.

[Gumby]

I'd say those are pretty good shop'd skills, but shop'd nonetheless. No way they have the exact same mouth and nose.

Oh yeah, it's an obvious shop (too many details exactly the same), but a good one.

[ReneeHendricks]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

Downloading and listening to it in a bit - thanks!

[Zenspace]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.

*thumbs-up* Thanks!

Most welcome. He does have a relationship with the Skepchiks et al (Svan, Hensley, etc.), but I have no idea how close that is. They share FB friend status and tweet directly to each other regularly. My take is that it is more along the lines of celebrity worship and that may have contributed the rapidity of his intellectual failure. I would also posit that the offering of more speaking gigs if he 'plays by the rules' was also a significant factor, but only Mr. Lee could answer that and, frankly, after seeing the quality of the shite he has produced since joining that mess I wouldn't be inclined to believe him anyway.

BTW - thanks for putting the Slymepit together. You and I have not interacted directly before this, so I wanted to take the opportunity to extend my appreciation for maintaining this wonderful free-for-all. :clap:

[Zenspace]

Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.

*thumbs-up* Thanks!

Most welcome. He does have a relationship with the Skepchiks et al (Svan, Hensley, etc.), but I have no idea how close that is. They share FB friend status and tweet directly to each other regularly. My take is that it is more along the lines of celebrity worship and that may have contributed the rapidity of his intellectual failure. I would also posit that the offering of more speaking gigs if he 'plays by the rules' was also a significant factor, but only Mr. Lee could answer that and, frankly, after seeing the quality of the shite he has produced since joining that mess I wouldn't be inclined to believe him anyway.

BTW - thanks for putting the Slymepit together. You and I have not interacted directly before this, so I wanted to take the opportunity to extend my appreciation for maintaining this wonderful free-for-all. :clap:

[Gumby]

This was brought to my attention by a disagreer...

Haha. That Eric Vicaria guy is relentless. :popcorn:

[Lsuoma]

"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.

I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.

No, the thalidomide problem was caused by different enantiomers 3-dimensional mirror images), not geometric isomerism, which is what the cis/trans distinction is.

[EdwardGemmer]

A thought I had this morning. I was kicked off of the Pharyngula website ostensibly because I was curious about why men commit crime. I had to jump through and acknowledge all of the "privilege" stuff that I do agree with, but my question was why do men, even though privileged, commit more crime. I was pretty clear that I represent a lot of men, especially young black men, and I am searching for some answers on that question. Then came the parade of insults and the banning. It occurs to me that these limousine liberals like PZ Myers have very little concern with actual victims of racism and sexism. If you are going to attack someone because they dare defend black people, I can only come to the conclusion that PZ Myers is in fact, a racist.

[Notung]

For anyone who missed it earlier - there IS a petition worth signing: http://skepticink.com/notung/2013/01/13 ... xecutions/

[AbsurdWalls]

A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/

N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?

I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.

The O2 adult content filtering is outsourced to a company called Bango. I believe they provide such filtering for several other services across Europe. If anyone knows any of the AVFM people it might be worth them dropping a line to Bango to say they've been false-positived.

[BrianAllenAptJ]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

Downloading and listening to it in a bit - thanks!

cool let me know any feedback you might have :) .... as long as it is positive lol

[AbsurdWalls]

"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.

I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.

No, the thalidomide problem was caused by different enantiomers 3-dimensional mirror images), not geometric isomerism, which is what the cis/trans distinction is.

I did attempt to say it was only a "related" phenomenon. :P

I'm a neuroscientist, not a chemist though.

[ReneeHendricks]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

Downloading and listening to it in a bit - thanks!

cool let me know any feedback you might have :) .... as long as it is positive lol

So far, I'm loving how candid it all is. Andy had a form of lymphoma so this is very "at home" for me at the moment.

[fascination]

This was brought to my attention by a disagreer...

EllenBeth Wachs wrote:
"Mr. Vicaria has it exactly fucking backward. tfoot was the one that demanded the shunning of people. tFoot was the one that used that language that he is objecting to for fuck sake. Nobody is trying to shun tFoot or keep him out of conferences."

Oh really? What did Ed Brayton say about Thunderf00t on FTB's backchannel again? That's right! Here you go EllenBeth, here is the full quote:
“I want to do whatever it takes to make sure that he is essentially drummed out of this movement, never invited to speak anywhere again and is forever a pariah.”


What was it that you said again?

[Jan Steen]

Ad on Pharyngula:

http://i.imgur.com/6ClFW.jpg

I'm waiting for the first burqa ad. Wearing a burqa would be perfectly in line with radical feminism. There has always been a lot of convergent evolution between extremist ideologies.

[somedumbguy]

A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/

N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?

I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.

The O2 adult content filtering is outsourced to a company called Bango. I believe they provide such filtering for several other services across Europe. If anyone knows any of the AVFM people it might be worth them dropping a line to Bango to say they've been false-positived.

Interesting. Googling O2 mobile filtering confirms what you say and eventually leads to this:

http://i.imgur.com/JgwHk.jpg

at http://www.imcb.org.uk/~/media/Files/IM ... mework.pdf

Which suggests you can kick off their re-evaulation by emailing advice@imcb.org.uk

[Pitchguest]

Bit of an update, A Hermit is still keeping on with his mental gymnastics in the comments on Justin Vacula's YouTube video. Scented Nectar and I have been trying, in vain, to tut some sense into him but no avail.

Now the question is, should I leave it as is, or continue "the good fight" as it were with the slight sacrifice of my sanity? Sanity which is slowly being drained by his (among other things) droning requests for evidence which he immediately rejects if it's not from a source he accepts, incessant quote-mining, and deliberately misrepresenting people's words so he could "win" the argument. It's becoming a chore to even want to have a debate with these people, when you have to expect these things will happen. And Adam Lee has proven he doesn't have a thinking cell in his entire body, let alone in his brain, the fucking ponce. Lilandra, too, can go fuck herself, and I'm not saying that lightly - I genuinely feel sorry for Aron Ra who has to be married such a moistened bint, who speaks of fucking fallacies (or is that 'fellacies?'), well, lilandra, in the words of Ralph Fiennes (paraphrased); you're a fucking fallacy!

[BrianAllenAptJ]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

Downloading and listening to it in a bit - thanks!

cool let me know any feedback you might have :) .... as long as it is positive lol

So far, I'm loving how candid it all is. Andy had a form of lymphoma so this is very "at home" for me at the moment.

yeap he had Hodgkins lymphoma and once we get done with his story we are gonna start taking questions and get other people on for episodes to share their stories

[astrokid.nj]

And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

Unlikely.. Adam Lee got married around 2010/06

That quote was from H.L.Mencken by the way.

“Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.”
― H.L. Mencken

[ReneeHendricks]

Bit of an update, A Hermit is still keeping on with his mental gymnastics in the comments on Justin Vacula's YouTube video. Scented Nectar and I have been trying, in vain, to tut some sense into him but no avail.

Now the question is, should I leave it as is, or continue "the good fight" as it were with the slight sacrifice of my sanity? Sanity which is slowly being drained by his (among other things) droning requests for evidence which he immediately rejects if it's not from a source he accepts, incessant quote-mining, and deliberately misrepresenting people's words so he could "win" the argument. It's becoming a chore to even want to have a debate with these people, when you have to expect these things will happen. And Adam Lee has proven he doesn't have a thinking cell in his entire body, let alone in his brain, the fucking ponce. Lilandra, too, can go fuck herself, and I'm not saying that lightly - I genuinely feel sorry for Aron Ra who has to be married such a moistened bint, who speaks of fucking fallacies (or is that 'fellacies?'), well, lilandra, in the words of Ralph Fiennes (paraphrased); you're a fucking fallacy!

Link so I can peruse?

[comslave]

Ad on Pharyngula:

http://i.imgur.com/6ClFW.jpg

I'm waiting for the first burqa ad. Wearing a burqa would be perfectly in line with radical feminism. There has always been a lot of convergent evolution between extremist ideologies.

They may require it for conventions.

[ReneeHendricks]

OK Everyone, I want to introduce you to a new show on Apartment J. This new show is about cancer and what a person goes through when they get cancer. Brian Allen who doesn't have cancer.. yet, and Andy Guss a 16 year survivor of Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma sit down and talk about everything he went through from the first signs all the way up to now. This is just the first episode in what will be an ongoing show on cancer and hopefully help anyone out there dealing with it get a smile on their face. WARNING: this is NSFW we talk very frankly and very candidly and we curse and make jokes but we are also very honest.

Not trying to advertise but shit this is a good show and we real talk about cancer.

http://talkingcure.apartmentj.com

Downloading and listening to it in a bit - thanks!

cool let me know any feedback you might have :) .... as long as it is positive lol

So far, I'm loving how candid it all is. Andy had a form of lymphoma so this is very "at home" for me at the moment.

yeap he had Hodgkins lymphoma and once we get done with his story we are gonna start taking questions and get other people on for episodes to share their stories

After the end of this month, whether it's malignant or benign for my guy, feel free to pull me into any episodes.

[Pitchguest]

Bit of an update, A Hermit is still keeping on with his mental gymnastics in the comments on Justin Vacula's YouTube video. Scented Nectar and I have been trying, in vain, to tut some sense into him but no avail.

Now the question is, should I leave it as is, or continue "the good fight" as it were with the slight sacrifice of my sanity? Sanity which is slowly being drained by his (among other things) droning requests for evidence which he immediately rejects if it's not from a source he accepts, incessant quote-mining, and deliberately misrepresenting people's words so he could "win" the argument. It's becoming a chore to even want to have a debate with these people, when you have to expect these things will happen. And Adam Lee has proven he doesn't have a thinking cell in his entire body, let alone in his brain, the fucking ponce. Lilandra, too, can go fuck herself, and I'm not saying that lightly - I genuinely feel sorry for Aron Ra who has to be married such a moistened bint, who speaks of fucking fallacies (or is that 'fellacies?'), well, lilandra, in the words of Ralph Fiennes (paraphrased); you're a fucking fallacy!

Link so I can peruse?

Oh yeah, forgot to include it:

[Scented Nectar]

Bit of an update, A Hermit is still keeping on with his mental gymnastics in the comments on Justin Vacula's YouTube video. Scented Nectar and I have been trying, in vain, to tut some sense into him but no avail.

Now the question is, should I leave it as is, or continue "the good fight" as it were with the slight sacrifice of my sanity? Sanity which is slowly being drained by his (among other things) droning requests for evidence which he immediately rejects if it's not from a source he accepts, incessant quote-mining, and deliberately misrepresenting people's words so he could "win" the argument. It's becoming a chore to even want to have a debate with these people, when you have to expect these things will happen. And Adam Lee has proven he doesn't have a thinking cell in his entire body, let alone in his brain, the fucking ponce. Lilandra, too, can go fuck herself, and I'm not saying that lightly - I genuinely feel sorry for Aron Ra who has to be married such a moistened bint, who speaks of fucking fallacies (or is that 'fellacies?'), well, lilandra, in the words of Ralph Fiennes (paraphrased); you're a fucking fallacy!

Well, I'm giving up. You can only smack someone right in their face with the evidence (that they demanded!) so many times. Then, it becomes apparent that they are a brick wall. Ahermit has the worst case of Parallel Logic I've ever seen, or more likely, he just doesn't understand anything enough to even see the contradictions. :)

[codelette]

A thought I had this morning. I was kicked off of the Pharyngula website ostensibly because I was curious about why men commit crime. I had to jump through and acknowledge all of the "privilege" stuff that I do agree with, but my question was why do men, even though privileged, commit more crime. I was pretty clear that I represent a lot of men, especially young black men, and I am searching for some answers on that question. Then came the parade of insults and the banning. It occurs to me that these limousine liberals like PZ Myers have very little concern with actual victims of racism and sexism. If you are going to attack someone because they dare defend black people, I can only come to the conclusion that PZ Myers is in fact, a racist.

A while ago I watched this show/documentary about brain studies performed on violent inmates to determine if their level of violence was linked to physiological rather than social reasons. I believe they found a trend between violence and brain injury.
I wish I remember the name of the show, it was very interesting indeed.

[codelette]

PS. Found this https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ury-prison

[Scented Nectar]

Here's the start of the new "I'm So Privileged Campaign"

[youtube]vNRqqn5qt98[/youtube]

[Tigzy]

Bit of an update, A Hermit is still keeping on with his mental gymnastics in the comments on Justin Vacula's YouTube video. Scented Nectar and I have been trying, in vain, to tut some sense into him but no avail.

Now the question is, should I leave it as is, or continue "the good fight" as it were with the slight sacrifice of my sanity? Sanity which is slowly being drained by his (among other things) droning requests for evidence which he immediately rejects if it's not from a source he accepts, incessant quote-mining, and deliberately misrepresenting people's words so he could "win" the argument. It's becoming a chore to even want to have a debate with these people, when you have to expect these things will happen. And Adam Lee has proven he doesn't have a thinking cell in his entire body, let alone in his brain, the fucking ponce. Lilandra, too, can go fuck herself, and I'm not saying that lightly - I genuinely feel sorry for Aron Ra who has to be married such a moistened bint, who speaks of fucking fallacies (or is that 'fellacies?'), well, lilandra, in the words of Ralph Fiennes (paraphrased); you're a fucking fallacy!

Just take the piss out of him - why take him seriously? After all, he's already done as good as a Godwin to support his argument, such as it is:

ahermit 1 day ago

No dodge; I've seen that site [Pharwrongula]. What it provides is not data or evidence.

Reminds me of the sites holocaust deniers send me to for what they call "real history." Just a lot of carefully selected self referential links, out of context quotes, sloppy conspiracy theories and paranoia.It's a fucking joke.