There's 'block' and 'report as spam'. I reckon that many of these guys are clicking the latter. It's like saying "I don't want to see this account, and I don't want anyone else to see it either". It's also being misused. It's to report actual spam. It's the only time I've used block - for those accounts which just spam links at random Twitterers.VickyCaramel wrote:Twitter is on the lookout for spammers. If it sees a new account getting blocked, it sees it as a signal.
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I already did, but here it is again since this place moves fast: https://twitter.com/Metaphoenix42 (and ty).decius wrote:Give us your name on Twitter. I'm sure that many of us are willing to follow and retweet you a few times. That should increase your standing and cover your arse.fascination wrote:I haven't found that to make much of a difference. They watch for any mention of their name. I don't use any profanity at all on Twitter or break the rules and yet I've been suspended several times. Everytime it was after i had tweeted something mildly critical of FTB or Skepchick. I've rarely been using Twitter anymore. I don't really like the platform. Maybe I'll give it another chance though.Gumby wrote:Are you including the "@names" of FtBtards or Skepskanks in your tweets?Metalogic42 wrote:I just got suspended from Twitter for the second time in 24 hours, what the fuck is this shit?
Same goes for Metalogic.
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I didn't care about location. If I can set it up under a different name than the one that's on any of my debit or credit cards then I'm set. Different email addy and different name (as long as it only shows the Paypal account name and not the debit card name). However, if other people care about their location being known then a Paypal card would be better. I had no idea it would be this difficult to give someone money without our info attached.Lsuoma wrote:No, you see account name, business name (if set), email address and snail-mail address - how else do you think I've been able to thank people by town?fascination wrote:I will! As soon as Lsuoma is back Ill ask him how donations show up on Paypal. AFAIK it only shows the email addy you used. So if you use a email addy that isn't connected to your name then you should be fine. Also, I don't think Natalie would dox someone who donated money to help her out, you know? However, I see no reason not to be careful. Just use a email address not connected to your RL name. I'll double check with Lsuoma first though.codelette wrote:
Please, let me know if there's any way to donate anonymously.
I will like to send some money her way but have the same concerns you have.
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BTW, I have nothing against women serving in combat, with equal rights comes equal responsibility. Most jobs can be done by either sexes, so no problem. The problem comes when you're an 11B grunt infantryman (and I do mean man), the combat load can be upwards to 225 lbs. When you're moving toward position (from where you can leave some of your extra gear and patrol with less weight), you have to carry everything. Not just your basic pack, but extra water (hot sometimes in Afghanistan), extra ammo, your M4, body armor (~30 lbs), TP, food for a few days, and all the other crap that you might need. This might be several miles up hill in extreme temperatures, sometimes with people shooting at you. Some people who have never done this can speak about how some women could handle it. I haven't met anyone who has done it that says they can. I am willing to be proven wrong though, as long as they don't lower the bar during Infantry AIT to accommodate women (or anyone).
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Trophy wrote:Then learn to the read the context of the posts you are reply to. Because those examples don't prove that "women rape men with their vaginas nearly as often as men rape women with their penises." They are not even close.Altair wrote:It's too fucking early in the morning to be reading this kind of crap.
And, in grand scheme of things, it's pretty damn unlikely for a man to be raped by a woman (and male minors don't count as "men"). It's almost a non-issue.
you have no idea what you are talking about. none.
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In my post above I meant to type "Greendot card" not "Paypal card".
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I'm happy to set up another PayPal account. I'll need to set up another email address, since my slymepit@gmail.com is also on my personal PayPal account.fascination wrote:This link claims you can set up a PayPal account with a username, nickname or fictitious name:
http://www.ehow.com/how_6174723_send-mo ... nline.html
It'll take a bit of time before I get this sorted out, but in the meantime if people want to donate using the buttons below, and mark it as being for Natalie, that's fine. I'll acknowledge each on my town and amount.
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fascination wrote:Personally, I am not that worried about it. If I can't set up an alternate PayPal account (legally) then I'm still donating. I don't think Reed will dox. However, other FTB people have doxxed people. People have had their employment threatened, letters have been written to people's grad programs and universities, at least one person lost their job over this crap, etc, etc. So I don't blame other people for being wary.Submariner wrote:
I know I'm pretty new around here, but this fear of doxing all seems rather McCarthyist and "witch-hunty".
Despite what Greta writes. Is there precedent I'm unaware of for this ultra-secrecy?
Wow, that seems like a really shitty thing to do. I don't know if that kind of thing is illegal or not, but even if legal, it's just , well, nasty.
And this site is called the Slymepit??? I think I know how Kafka felt, now.
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Setting up nr-donation@slymepit.com email address. When I have the new PayPal account working I'll let people know.
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fascination wrote: In fact, Shermer helped her out with her "career" if I remember correctly. He gave her free publicity and helped with her calendars. He gave her a leg up, so to speak. She was even a mod or something for awhile on Shermer's Skeptic's forum. I wonder if Shermer regrets having anything to do with the Skepchicks now. They do turn on you pretty fast don't they?
A few more generous figures in the movement will come to realise the same mistake, given enough time, methinks.
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I think we might already follow each other. I just haven't been on there much because I don't like the platform but I'll try it out again I guess. I'm @fascination80decius wrote:Give us your name on Twitter. I'm sure that many of us are willing to follow and retweet you a few times. That should increase your standing and cover your arse.fascination wrote:I haven't found that to make much of a difference. They watch for any mention of their name. I don't use any profanity at all on Twitter or break the rules and yet I've been suspended several times. Everytime it was after i had tweeted something mildly critical of FTB or Skepchick. I've rarely been using Twitter anymore. I don't really like the platform. Maybe I'll give it another chance though.Gumby wrote:Are you including the "@names" of FtBtards or Skepskanks in your tweets?Metalogic42 wrote:I just got suspended from Twitter for the second time in 24 hours, what the fuck is this shit?
Same goes for Metalogic.
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Thank you so much Lsuoma! I was going to shoot off another donation to you anyway. I'll make one to the Pit and one to Natalie. :)Lsuoma wrote:I'm happy to set up another PayPal account. I'll need to set up another email address, since my slymepit@gmail.com is also on my personal PayPal account.fascination wrote:This link claims you can set up a PayPal account with a username, nickname or fictitious name:
http://www.ehow.com/how_6174723_send-mo ... nline.html
It'll take a bit of time before I get this sorted out, but in the meantime if people want to donate using the buttons below, and mark it as being for Natalie, that's fine. I'll acknowledge each on my town and amount.
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I think it is possible to leave behind all ideological outlooks and be guided by pragmatism and/or reason in the political process.Angry_Drunk wrote:But the important thing is that you’ve found a way to feel superior to everyone else.Git wrote: Yup. I'm mainly an anti-Utopian. Some of political positions are what could be called, left, some, from the right.
At the end of the day, I'm anti-Socialist because every single time its been tried, its resulted in mass murder and death, and its cultists inevitably decide that its failed because they haven't killed enough people.
And don't give me any bollocks about Scandanavia being socialist - they're further from being socialist than either the US or the UK are.
It is also true that social democracies have little in common with socialist systems. I've resided both in Finland and in the former DDR and I can tell you that the differences are enormous.
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Cunning Punt wrote:I have a collection of old Viz comics from the 80's somewhere. Maybe I will have to scan some of them and post them when they are relevant.Tony Parsehole wrote:Love it :dance:bhoytony wrote:[spoiler]Who could forget the amazing Mickey's Monkey Spunk Moped. Mickey keeps running out of fuel for his bike and has to find the nearest zoo or circus in order to wank a monkey off, collect the spunk to fill the tank on his incredible moped and carry on his journey. One of the finest literary creations ever written.Tony Parsehole wrote: I think the most moving strip was The Rotating Chin Men. Do you remember that one?
A description from WikipediaThat my friend, is poetic.:Rotating Chin Men A gang of flying villains with jetpacks whose intention is to spoil Queen Elizabeth II's coronation by squirting spunk onto her via a pump squeeze mechanism linked to their revolving chins.
There's even a baboon reference in this one
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7093 ... ff5243.png[/spoiler]
I've got that one in my collection somewhere.
We shredded ours for mull mix....
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Cunning Punt wrote:I have a collection of old Viz comics from the 80's somewhere. Maybe I will have to scan some of them and post them when they are relevant.Tony Parsehole wrote:Love it :dance:bhoytony wrote:[spoiler]Who could forget the amazing Mickey's Monkey Spunk Moped. Mickey keeps running out of fuel for his bike and has to find the nearest zoo or circus in order to wank a monkey off, collect the spunk to fill the tank on his incredible moped and carry on his journey. One of the finest literary creations ever written.Tony Parsehole wrote: I think the most moving strip was The Rotating Chin Men. Do you remember that one?
A description from WikipediaThat my friend, is poetic.:Rotating Chin Men A gang of flying villains with jetpacks whose intention is to spoil Queen Elizabeth II's coronation by squirting spunk onto her via a pump squeeze mechanism linked to their revolving chins.
There's even a baboon reference in this one
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7093 ... ff5243.png[/spoiler]
I've got that one in my collection somewhere.
We shredded ours for mull mix....
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and I didn't press SUBMIT twice
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Thanks, Lsuoma! ;)Lsuoma wrote:Setting up nr-donation@slymepit.com email address. When I have the new PayPal account working I'll let people know.
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I was about to give a vote for codelette's awesome idea, and here you've already gone and started implementing it. I haven't been around long, but should've taken the opportunity sooner to thank you for everything you do to keep the slymepit chugging along.Lsuoma wrote:Setting up nr-donation@slymepit.com email address. When I have the new PayPal account working I'll let people know.
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Metalogic, if they suspend you again, try and have your old account restored rather than open a fresh one. Otherwise you'll never climb up the ladder.
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Tbh, I only made the new one cause I thought "Metaphoenix" was pretty clever.decius wrote:Metalogic, if they suspend you again, try and have your old account restored rather than open a fresh one. Otherwise you'll never climb up the ladder.
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I just had to laugh at this. TW rainbows, bunny rabbits, and apple pie.Onamission5 wrote:Ms. Blog post on internet harassment of women(TW everything)
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Wait, she has a t-shirt or endorsed a t-shirt that has "Die Cis Scum" printed on it?! She was joking right?Notung wrote:
THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES... etc
Even those people who grab you in the street asking for charity money (by regular Direct Debit) provide me with more reason to donate - but here's the thing: loads of charities are good causes (Operation Smile, for instance), and you can't donate to all of them. So just choose ones that you feel a 'connection' to, or particularly value. My dad had cancer, so I prefer cancer charities. I prefer the feeling that I'm helping (in a small way) cancer research to the feeling that I'm funding an unfamiliar and relatively privileged British medical student in India's expensive new computer, or to the feeling that I'm lining the pockets of a random internet Tumblr-SJW-blogger who I've not seen do anything except for angrily lashing out at other people, thinks that t-shirts that say 'DIE CIS SCUM' are acceptable garments (I'm not making this up) and who has me blocked on Twitter (even though I've never interacted with her)...
...but each to their own*!
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First off, @Lsuoma: it may be on my end, but I'm getting some slowdown when I try to navigate the 'pit. How does I fix?
Second, this is spectacular:
Second, this is spectacular:
Orenda wrote: Setar
"Yes, julian, do fuck off. As can you, wind."
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The_Laughing_Coyote
"I don't give a single dry fuck about your 'dissenting opinion'."
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"Good fucking riddance, you human urinal."
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"Julian, OTOH, is just a brick of shit and his flouncing is no loss to any of us."
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"Go fuck yourself, Wind. Hard.
I have zero respect for people who think they're ENTITLED to dictate to other people what they should be comfortable with or what their boundaries should be.
Fuck you."
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"No wind, you're fucking WRONG for feeling entitled to dictate to other people what their boundaries should be and what they should and shouldn't be comfortable with. Wrong, stupid, selfish, and FUCKING ENTITLED."
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"You're a miserable entitled shit and after this display I wouldn't trust you with the time of day.
And I'd gladly say "Good fucking riddance" to you, except, you know, you're still here, reciting your script. Poorly."
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"Cee has the right of it. I think you should just fuck off by now. Go run to the slymepit and tell them how mean we are."
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Cipher
"Shut the fuck up and lurk for a while, or you're going to get your ignorant ass banned. And yes, wah, I'm a meanieface. I'm not going to cut you slack for being a newbie anymore unless you show some fucking signs of actually trying to figure out what the fuck this space is for and why you're getting the responses you are."
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"I do in fact fucking care about you shitting up this space, since I am in it, I have worked to make it a better space, and I care about the other people who have done the same, you blithering fucking twit. I don't personally care which outcome happens - either you shut the fuck up until you can learn not to behave like a complete asshole or the mods come down on you like a ton of bricks - but if the threat of banning gets you to shut the fuck up sooner, the better for all of us."
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"I mean, obviously the person is a fuckbrain, obviously I don't buy that shit considering the number of us who are bi and would jump all over any actual biphobia, but I can't even figure out the Absurd Troll Logic here."
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"Don't be coy, marinerachel. Go ahead and name names, if you want to be this kind of asshole."
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"I guess I'll ask again, since you've decided to fucking do it again, marinerachel. EITHER NAME FUCKING NAMES OR FUCK OFF. I am sick of your passive-aggressive dishonest shit-stirring."
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"Nice use of the passive voice there, asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1225#p61209
"Um, factually, TLC has in fact been warned and told to back off or moderate his words before by moderators. Others whom you might consider too mean and angry, including me, have also been taken aside by other members in efforts to help when a certain level of rage toxicity seems to be hit, although usually that takes the form less of a reprimand and more of a "So what's up with you?" type of thing.
As you know, "sarcastic" and "rude" are not qualities I consider bad, so you might not take me terribly seriously on this point."
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"Wind, stop LYING, you shameless LIAR, about your source. Have a little integrity. Don't you believe in transparency? You two-faced, lying, shielding motherfucker.*"
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"Fuck off, Skeptical Jay. Stop baiting people."
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Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
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I go from perplexed, to annoyed, to queasy watching the enthusiasm with which some folks will go to make a public display of their "generosity" to people they don't know and who in return, probably wouldn't even piss on them if they were on fire.bhoytony wrote:In case all the lurkers think this is becoming a haven of kind and caring human beings, I'd like to confirm their original suspicions. I have no intention of donating any money to Natalie Reed and there is no fucking way I would ever invite a stranger to live in my home. I can think of several hundred people off the top of my head who I think would be more in need of any help I could give, never mind some random stranger who seems to be a bit of an arsehole and lives in another country thousands of miles away.
I do admit I am a bit of a cunt, but at least I'm honest.
Fuck. You want to show your humanity? Do something for your own community where the actual problems are visible to you. I would guess the majority of folks here pass by numerous homeless everyday without ever seeing them, the "invisible people", as they go about their daily business. How about buying a homeless kid a sandwich? Or maybe volunteering time to Meals on Wheels for the old and the sick? Imagine what could be achieved if everyone looked to see what could be done in their own community, instead looking for high emotional value things to donate to involving places you'll never see and people you will never know? It reeks more of guilt alleviation than any real charity - though the cleft palate fund is a pretty good exception to this.
At least Andrew is using his brain and doing something practical instead of just throwing money.
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Andrew, Altair is being extremely easy on her. Sexism against men does not get an "easy pass" with me. fuck that.AndrewV69 wrote:This is an issue that is not generally on the radar for most people, so we should not be surprised to see it here. Trophy has expression an opinion based on general societal values that are inculcated within us all.Altair wrote: I don't have a problem with comparing numbers and saying that a vast majority of rape is commited by men (although Andrew's post gives some information that could challenge this assumption).
But acknowledging that doesn't mean saying that men being raped by women is a non-issue, a non-problem or something that's not important on "the grand scheme of things". As I said, that's callous and offensive bullshit, and that's the part ot Trophy's point I'm opposing.
I would recommend "easing up" a bit on the grounds that many of us at one point or the other have had assumptions that turned out to be erroneous, especially if we have never been confronted to think or challenge them.
Many of us (including men) are culturally inoculated with the idea that men are "disposable" and that comes with a bundle of innate assumptions that are never questioned.
Just saying.
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Found the link to the shirt Notung was talking about. Reed was referencing another person's post, but in this post she calls non Trans people "cisholes".
http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... rumptious/
http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... rumptious/
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I'll say.Metalogic42 wrote:...Second, this is spectacular:
My first reaction on reading was to laugh. My second reaction was more akin to Shelley Duvall discovering Jack Nicholson's manuscript in The Shining.
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Angry_Drunk wrote:I see how you could make that mistake, seeing as how Peezus still bills himself as a Professor of Biology. When you understand that he's really teaching New Media Douchebaggery 101 it all falls into place.Metalogic42 wrote:Although requiring grad students to start a blog seems like a huge waste of time, when they could be doing a lab internship instead.
I love when you cruise by with some wit
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Franc, I do local charity and volunteer work. I wanted to help Natalie because I don't think anyone should be homeless and I help out homeless people whenever I can. My husband and I are considered well off financially and I can afford to help her out. However, I have to admit that my opinion of her just dropped quite a bit after reading the post I linked to above.
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and there, ladies and gentleman, you have it. :clap:
Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
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Metalogic42 wrote:First off, @Lsuoma: it may be on my end, but I'm getting some slowdown when I try to navigate the 'pit. How does I fix?
Second, this is spectacular:
[spoiler][/spoiler]Orenda wrote: Setar
"Yes, julian, do fuck off. As can you, wind."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1450#p64801
The_Laughing_Coyote
"I don't give a single dry fuck about your 'dissenting opinion'."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1200#p61129
"Good fucking riddance, you human urinal."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=950#p56264
"Julian, OTOH, is just a brick of shit and his flouncing is no loss to any of us."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64650
"Go fuck yourself, Wind. Hard.
I have zero respect for people who think they're ENTITLED to dictate to other people what they should be comfortable with or what their boundaries should be.
Fuck you."
This post was given a warning by hyperdeath,
Moderator Warning: That comment is unacceptable. Please do not cross the line from anger to gratuitous nastiness.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64656
"No wind, you're fucking WRONG for feeling entitled to dictate to other people what their boundaries should be and what they should and shouldn't be comfortable with. Wrong, stupid, selfish, and FUCKING ENTITLED."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64661
"You're a miserable entitled shit and after this display I wouldn't trust you with the time of day.
And I'd gladly say "Good fucking riddance" to you, except, you know, you're still here, reciting your script. Poorly."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1500#p64912
"Cee has the right of it. I think you should just fuck off by now. Go run to the slymepit and tell them how mean we are."
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Cipher
"Shut the fuck up and lurk for a while, or you're going to get your ignorant ass banned. And yes, wah, I'm a meanieface. I'm not going to cut you slack for being a newbie anymore unless you show some fucking signs of actually trying to figure out what the fuck this space is for and why you're getting the responses you are."
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"I do in fact fucking care about you shitting up this space, since I am in it, I have worked to make it a better space, and I care about the other people who have done the same, you blithering fucking twit. I don't personally care which outcome happens - either you shut the fuck up until you can learn not to behave like a complete asshole or the mods come down on you like a ton of bricks - but if the threat of banning gets you to shut the fuck up sooner, the better for all of us."
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"I mean, obviously the person is a fuckbrain, obviously I don't buy that shit considering the number of us who are bi and would jump all over any actual biphobia, but I can't even figure out the Absurd Troll Logic here."
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"Don't be coy, marinerachel. Go ahead and name names, if you want to be this kind of asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=975#p58974
"I guess I'll ask again, since you've decided to fucking do it again, marinerachel. EITHER NAME FUCKING NAMES OR FUCK OFF. I am sick of your passive-aggressive dishonest shit-stirring."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1050#p59516
"Nice use of the passive voice there, asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1225#p61209
"Um, factually, TLC has in fact been warned and told to back off or moderate his words before by moderators. Others whom you might consider too mean and angry, including me, have also been taken aside by other members in efforts to help when a certain level of rage toxicity seems to be hit, although usually that takes the form less of a reprimand and more of a "So what's up with you?" type of thing.
As you know, "sarcastic" and "rude" are not qualities I consider bad, so you might not take me terribly seriously on this point."
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"Wind, stop LYING, you shameless LIAR, about your source. Have a little integrity. Don't you believe in transparency? You two-faced, lying, shielding motherfucker.*"
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1450#p64733
"Fuck off, Skeptical Jay. Stop baiting people."
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Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=975#p58959
Jeezus fucking christ. Anyone who is truly fucking fragile and trying to fit in with that bunch would probably be driven to suicide after being insulted so fucking cruelly.
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She also advocates a number of toxic social attitudes, including not informing a prospective partner of one's transsexuality. I'm all for full equality, but I think that one crosses a line. Besides, it isn't a deception likely to succeed beyond a first drunk night, so it just reeks of desperation and of forcing unwilling partners into the sack.fascination wrote:Found the link to the shirt Notung was talking about. Reed was referencing another person's post, but in this post she calls non Trans people "cisholes".
http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... rumptious/
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It's kind of scary how they think jokingly calling a friend a "cunt" is horrendous and off limits, but shouting at someone and calling them a "brick of shit" or a "human urinal" with obvious hatred is totally fine.another lurker wrote:Metalogic42 wrote:First off, @Lsuoma: it may be on my end, but I'm getting some slowdown when I try to navigate the 'pit. How does I fix?
Second, this is spectacular:
[spoiler][/spoiler]Orenda wrote: Setar
"Yes, julian, do fuck off. As can you, wind."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1450#p64801
The_Laughing_Coyote
"I don't give a single dry fuck about your 'dissenting opinion'."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1200#p61129
"Good fucking riddance, you human urinal."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=950#p56264
"Julian, OTOH, is just a brick of shit and his flouncing is no loss to any of us."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64650
"Go fuck yourself, Wind. Hard.
I have zero respect for people who think they're ENTITLED to dictate to other people what they should be comfortable with or what their boundaries should be.
Fuck you."
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"No wind, you're fucking WRONG for feeling entitled to dictate to other people what their boundaries should be and what they should and shouldn't be comfortable with. Wrong, stupid, selfish, and FUCKING ENTITLED."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64661
"You're a miserable entitled shit and after this display I wouldn't trust you with the time of day.
And I'd gladly say "Good fucking riddance" to you, except, you know, you're still here, reciting your script. Poorly."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1500#p64912
"Cee has the right of it. I think you should just fuck off by now. Go run to the slymepit and tell them how mean we are."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1500#p64916
Cipher
"Shut the fuck up and lurk for a while, or you're going to get your ignorant ass banned. And yes, wah, I'm a meanieface. I'm not going to cut you slack for being a newbie anymore unless you show some fucking signs of actually trying to figure out what the fuck this space is for and why you're getting the responses you are."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=875#p52769
"I do in fact fucking care about you shitting up this space, since I am in it, I have worked to make it a better space, and I care about the other people who have done the same, you blithering fucking twit. I don't personally care which outcome happens - either you shut the fuck up until you can learn not to behave like a complete asshole or the mods come down on you like a ton of bricks - but if the threat of banning gets you to shut the fuck up sooner, the better for all of us."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=875#p52787
"I mean, obviously the person is a fuckbrain, obviously I don't buy that shit considering the number of us who are bi and would jump all over any actual biphobia, but I can't even figure out the Absurd Troll Logic here."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=950#p58534
"Don't be coy, marinerachel. Go ahead and name names, if you want to be this kind of asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=975#p58974
"I guess I'll ask again, since you've decided to fucking do it again, marinerachel. EITHER NAME FUCKING NAMES OR FUCK OFF. I am sick of your passive-aggressive dishonest shit-stirring."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1050#p59516
"Nice use of the passive voice there, asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1225#p61209
"Um, factually, TLC has in fact been warned and told to back off or moderate his words before by moderators. Others whom you might consider too mean and angry, including me, have also been taken aside by other members in efforts to help when a certain level of rage toxicity seems to be hit, although usually that takes the form less of a reprimand and more of a "So what's up with you?" type of thing.
As you know, "sarcastic" and "rude" are not qualities I consider bad, so you might not take me terribly seriously on this point."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1375#p64612
"Wind, stop LYING, you shameless LIAR, about your source. Have a little integrity. Don't you believe in transparency? You two-faced, lying, shielding motherfucker.*"
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"Fuck off, Skeptical Jay. Stop baiting people."
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Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
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Jeezus fucking christ. Anyone who is truly fucking fragile and trying to fit in with that bunch would probably be driven to suicide after being insulted so fucking cruelly.
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Metalogic42 wrote:It's kind of scary how they think jokingly calling a friend a "cunt" is horrendous and off limits, but shouting at someone and calling them a "brick of shit" or a "human urinal" with obvious hatred is totally fine.another lurker wrote:Metalogic42 wrote:First off, @Lsuoma: it may be on my end, but I'm getting some slowdown when I try to navigate the 'pit. How does I fix?
Second, this is spectacular:
[spoiler][/spoiler]Orenda wrote: Setar
"Yes, julian, do fuck off. As can you, wind."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1450#p64801
The_Laughing_Coyote
"I don't give a single dry fuck about your 'dissenting opinion'."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1200#p61129
"Good fucking riddance, you human urinal."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=950#p56264
"Julian, OTOH, is just a brick of shit and his flouncing is no loss to any of us."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64650
"Go fuck yourself, Wind. Hard.
I have zero respect for people who think they're ENTITLED to dictate to other people what they should be comfortable with or what their boundaries should be.
Fuck you."
This post was given a warning by hyperdeath,
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viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64656
"No wind, you're fucking WRONG for feeling entitled to dictate to other people what their boundaries should be and what they should and shouldn't be comfortable with. Wrong, stupid, selfish, and FUCKING ENTITLED."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1400#p64661
"You're a miserable entitled shit and after this display I wouldn't trust you with the time of day.
And I'd gladly say "Good fucking riddance" to you, except, you know, you're still here, reciting your script. Poorly."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1500#p64912
"Cee has the right of it. I think you should just fuck off by now. Go run to the slymepit and tell them how mean we are."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1500#p64916
Cipher
"Shut the fuck up and lurk for a while, or you're going to get your ignorant ass banned. And yes, wah, I'm a meanieface. I'm not going to cut you slack for being a newbie anymore unless you show some fucking signs of actually trying to figure out what the fuck this space is for and why you're getting the responses you are."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=875#p52769
"I do in fact fucking care about you shitting up this space, since I am in it, I have worked to make it a better space, and I care about the other people who have done the same, you blithering fucking twit. I don't personally care which outcome happens - either you shut the fuck up until you can learn not to behave like a complete asshole or the mods come down on you like a ton of bricks - but if the threat of banning gets you to shut the fuck up sooner, the better for all of us."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=875#p52787
"I mean, obviously the person is a fuckbrain, obviously I don't buy that shit considering the number of us who are bi and would jump all over any actual biphobia, but I can't even figure out the Absurd Troll Logic here."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=950#p58534
"Don't be coy, marinerachel. Go ahead and name names, if you want to be this kind of asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=975#p58974
"I guess I'll ask again, since you've decided to fucking do it again, marinerachel. EITHER NAME FUCKING NAMES OR FUCK OFF. I am sick of your passive-aggressive dishonest shit-stirring."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1050#p59516
"Nice use of the passive voice there, asshole."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1225#p61209
"Um, factually, TLC has in fact been warned and told to back off or moderate his words before by moderators. Others whom you might consider too mean and angry, including me, have also been taken aside by other members in efforts to help when a certain level of rage toxicity seems to be hit, although usually that takes the form less of a reprimand and more of a "So what's up with you?" type of thing.
As you know, "sarcastic" and "rude" are not qualities I consider bad, so you might not take me terribly seriously on this point."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1375#p64612
"Wind, stop LYING, you shameless LIAR, about your source. Have a little integrity. Don't you believe in transparency? You two-faced, lying, shielding motherfucker.*"
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1450#p64733
"Fuck off, Skeptical Jay. Stop baiting people."
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Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=975#p58959
Jeezus fucking christ. Anyone who is truly fucking fragile and trying to fit in with that bunch would probably be driven to suicide after being insulted so fucking cruelly.
I can totally understand being that HATEFUL towards an obvious racist, or a religious freak who's saying that if a child is raped, that child deserves it, cuz 'original sin' - but to show that much HATE towards people who are your fucking allies but who are simply naive and/or who use the wrong words is simply cruel and unwarranted. Yeah. Its plain fucking cruelty - no two ways about it.
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franc wrote:I go from perplexed, to annoyed, to queasy watching the enthusiasm with which some folks will go to make a public display of their "generosity" to people they don't know and who in return, probably wouldn't even piss on them if they were on fire.bhoytony wrote:In case all the lurkers think this is becoming a haven of kind and caring human beings, I'd like to confirm their original suspicions. I have no intention of donating any money to Natalie Reed and there is no fucking way I would ever invite a stranger to live in my home. I can think of several hundred people off the top of my head who I think would be more in need of any help I could give, never mind some random stranger who seems to be a bit of an arsehole and lives in another country thousands of miles away.
I do admit I am a bit of a cunt, but at least I'm honest.
Fuck. You want to show your humanity? Do something for your own community where the actual problems are visible to you. I would guess the majority of folks here pass by numerous homeless everyday without ever seeing them, the "invisible people", as they go about their daily business. How about buying a homeless kid a sandwich? Or maybe volunteering time to Meals on Wheels for the old and the sick? Imagine what could be achieved if everyone looked to see what could be done in their own community, instead looking for high emotional value things to donate to involving places you'll never see and people you will never know? It reeks more of guilt alleviation than any real charity - though the cleft palate fund is a pretty good exception to this.
At least Andrew is using his brain and doing something practical instead of just throwing money.
Since, I guess the message above apply to me.
I donate money and time to various local charities (three to be more precise: a community kitchen, a no-kill shelter and a foster children residential facility). Will the stated confession allow me to send money Natalie's way or is there a certain amount of sandwiches I should give out locally in order to earn that right?
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I think a person should be upfront about that also. Even if its just for their personal safety. There are some people who would get violent after finding out that they slept with a trans person. I would be worried about that if it were me. I would want to make sure my partner was totally cool with it. I have a lot of sympathy for trans people. It must be a tough conversation to have.decius wrote:She also advocates a number of toxic social attitudes, including not informing a prospective partner of one's transsexuality. I'm all for full equality, but I think that one crosses a line. Besides, it isn't a deception likely to succeed beyond a first drunk night, so it just reeks of desperation and of forcing unwilling partners into the sack.fascination wrote:Found the link to the shirt Notung was talking about. Reed was referencing another person's post, but in this post she calls non Trans people "cisholes".
http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... rumptious/
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Every time I read about Atheism+, I remember this old comic in an issue of Mad Magazine that's always stuck with me. Can't seem to find it online, but it's only a few panels with no words. Starts with the population in some tinpot dictatorship storming the compound, while the dictator escapes out the back with a suitcase full of cash. Ends with the population storming the compound some decades later, with the former leader of the revolutionaries escaping in his flying car with a suitcase full of cash...Zenspace wrote:and there, ladies and gentleman, you have it. :clap:
Kassiane
"WHAT THE BLAZING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?????????? ON WHAT PLANET IS THIS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A MODERATOR??????
I expect an explanation. Because this is FUCKING bullshit and clearly you don't understand social justice. Good job on the "safe space". You keep using those words. They don't mean what you think they mean.
This is why I don't trust you. Because you don't fucking deserve it. You're the same privileged assholes who are in charge everywhere else."
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It's Animal Farm. Clear as day.
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Plus, what trans person would want to sleep with someone like that anyway? The conversation may be tough, but the regret afterwards would be even worse.fascination wrote:I think a person should be upfront about that also. Even if its just for their personal safety. There are some people who would get violent after finding out that they slept with a trans person. I would be worried about that if it were me. I would want to make sure my partner was totally cool with it. I have a lot of sympathy for trans people. It must be a tough conversation to have.decius wrote:She also advocates a number of toxic social attitudes, including not informing a prospective partner of one's transsexuality. I'm all for full equality, but I think that one crosses a line. Besides, it isn't a deception likely to succeed beyond a first drunk night, so it just reeks of desperation and of forcing unwilling partners into the sack.fascination wrote:Found the link to the shirt Notung was talking about. Reed was referencing another person's post, but in this post she calls non Trans people "cisholes".
http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... rumptious/
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AJdgx6d_Aq0/T ... 59x300.jpgLsuoma wrote:Regarding the slowdown, I've seen it when posting but not when viewing. I think it might be due to latency calling the anti-spam service when posting. I can't remember if I have that turned on for registered members. I think I do, and when I check if it IS turned on I'll turn it off to see if that makes a difference.
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fascination, yes, Natalie holds some fairly toxic views regarding so-called "cis" people, the "fairness" of wearing a jacket that says Die Cis Scum on it, and so on. And back in the day, before I was banned from almost all of the FfTB blogs, I tried to highlight the hypocrisy of her stance to her. But, she is stubborn, dogmatic, and unable to project or feel much empathy except to those individuals with whom she specifically identifies -- and that is the laziest, weakest from of empathy there is.
Nonetheless, from my own perspective, much of that can be shuffled to the side, at least temporarily, in light of her impending homelessness. I would not advocate trying to help her out as an attempt to show FfTB, et al, that we are better than them, so to speak (what they are calling spite-charity) but, although it sounds otherwise, I do think that for ourselves, as individuals, if we really want to put our money where our mouths are and prove to ourselves that we are in fact humanists holding some kind of high moral ground, we must take the first step in proving it.
When it comes to peace talks, so to speak, someone, on one side or another, must take the first step and then follow through. And in our wee world of atheism / skepticism / humanism, I feel that means that if someone wants to help someone else avoid homelessness, it is meaningful and morally sound and ethical to overlook, at least for the time being, distasteful attitudes and opinions they may have held in the past that do not have any direct bearing on their potential homelessness.
Nonetheless, from my own perspective, much of that can be shuffled to the side, at least temporarily, in light of her impending homelessness. I would not advocate trying to help her out as an attempt to show FfTB, et al, that we are better than them, so to speak (what they are calling spite-charity) but, although it sounds otherwise, I do think that for ourselves, as individuals, if we really want to put our money where our mouths are and prove to ourselves that we are in fact humanists holding some kind of high moral ground, we must take the first step in proving it.
When it comes to peace talks, so to speak, someone, on one side or another, must take the first step and then follow through. And in our wee world of atheism / skepticism / humanism, I feel that means that if someone wants to help someone else avoid homelessness, it is meaningful and morally sound and ethical to overlook, at least for the time being, distasteful attitudes and opinions they may have held in the past that do not have any direct bearing on their potential homelessness.
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Definitely agree with the Andrew taking the practical and possibly most effective approach. I struggle somewhat with the rest of it. I see homeless pretty much every day. I was one for a few months in my youth, but it wasn't the same really. Most of these people have serious mental issues. I've bought the odd one the occasional meal, but that admittedly is unusual. I never give money, though. More common is the professional panhandler. I've been walking by the same guy for over ten years now, on the same corner. I never give anything to the pro's, though. That just doesn't sit right with me somehow, although I'm reminded of the scene from 'Amelie' when she trys to give the panhandler some change and he refuses, because it is his 'day off'! :lol: I really love that scene.franc wrote:I go from perplexed, to annoyed, to queasy watching the enthusiasm with which some folks will go to make a public display of their "generosity" to people they don't know and who in return, probably wouldn't even piss on them if they were on fire.bhoytony wrote:In case all the lurkers think this is becoming a haven of kind and caring human beings, I'd like to confirm their original suspicions. I have no intention of donating any money to Natalie Reed and there is no fucking way I would ever invite a stranger to live in my home. I can think of several hundred people off the top of my head who I think would be more in need of any help I could give, never mind some random stranger who seems to be a bit of an arsehole and lives in another country thousands of miles away.
I do admit I am a bit of a cunt, but at least I'm honest.
Fuck. You want to show your humanity? Do something for your own community where the actual problems are visible to you. I would guess the majority of folks here pass by numerous homeless everyday without ever seeing them, the "invisible people", as they go about their daily business. How about buying a homeless kid a sandwich? Or maybe volunteering time to Meals on Wheels for the old and the sick? Imagine what could be achieved if everyone looked to see what could be done in their own community, instead looking for high emotional value things to donate to involving places you'll never see and people you will never know? It reeks more of guilt alleviation than any real charity - though the cleft palate fund is a pretty good exception to this.
At least Andrew is using his brain and doing something practical instead of just throwing money.
I also have difficulty connecting with Reed's situation, as there is no way we can get the full story on that. If a friend has an issue, I'm right there for them. I gave a chunk of money to a friend in new Orleans to help him recover from Hurricane Kathleen, with instructions that if he didn't need all of it, to give it to the people who, in his judgement (which I trust) most needed it. When he got back on his feet, he offered to pay it back and I had to remind him it wasn't a loan.
Operation Smile was a very unusual donation for me. But I've seen th eads for that for years and didn't have the wherewithall to do anything. This year was a bit different and Renee hit me at just the right time to remind and motivate me. I'm happy to finally be in a position to do something substantial. That will not always be the case, but this time I could. I kind of like the idea that two kids will have a much better life because I was able to help. I kind of like the idea that it is anonymous too, so there is no implied obligation in return. It is one of my main goals in life to leave this joint a bit better than I found it. Operation Smile definitely fits in with that goal.
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“Nicely†described bit of psychology there, albeit somewhat on the pathological side. And somewhat amusing that that “Victim cred†seems to qualify as the odious and anathematized “privilegeâ€. Sort of like how atheism can be considered a religion to some, based on the definition of religion as “A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotionâ€.Scented Nectar wrote:The state of fear and feeling that one is oppressed is actually encouraged. It's great when one can blame everything, including any of one's own doing, on men! TheAltair wrote: [spoiler]Scented Nectar, if you don't mind my asking, there's something I've been wondering about women who hold those beliefs, maybe you can shed some light on that based on your experiences and/or the experiences of other radfems you knew.[/spoiler]How does believing that women are constantly being wronged by men make them feel? Are they scared all the time because they see every man and even society as extremely hostile? Or do they feel kind of relieved or even happy that every bad thing that happens to them is someone else's fault (men's, patriarchy's, society's, etc). Or maybe both? Or something else entirely?Scented Nectar wrote:Thanks. Those were my blind belief days. :)cunt wrote:Well exactly, what i'm concerned with is that I can't actually find the results anywhere on that site. Only analysis. Given how easy it is to lie through statistics and an ambigious question...Scented Nectar wrote: ....
Any time I see either round numbers or the word "estimated" in statistics, warning bells go off.
Also, who is to say that the women who felt unwelcome weren't that way due to other women? There is nothing that says it was always secular MEN who made them feel like that.
Interesting vid on your involvement with the toronto rad-fems btw.
Feminists always believe, on nothing more than faith, any claimed statistic that says women are being done wrong by men.
When I read what some feminists think or believe about the world, I think they must live in a constant state of fear.devilmen made me do it! It's a way of always being in the state of deserving compensation or a righting of wrongs. If you quit your job or not bother going to class, it was the patriarchal society that actually discouraged you, not your own bad choices.
While much of the encouraged fear is actually felt by them, some of it is actually cherished instead. Why? Victim cred. The more you are a victim, the more you are deserving of whatever you demand as compensation, the more sympathy you get from your 'sisters' too.
But it would be interesting to know whether or not – as somewhat of a rhetorical question – you think that that is “more of a gal thingâ€. One is tempted to argue somewhat in favor of the hypothesis, even if only on the basis that it is a response to the relative powerlessness of women, at least historically. In which case one might deprecate the response while being somewhat sympathetic to the plight of those exhibiting it, particularly if there is some genetic basis for it which seems quite likely. But it reminds me of an old joke - stop me if you've heard it before [ ;-) ]:
However, I very much expect that, as the evidence is fairly clear, there are more than a few males who also try for that victim cred. After all, I expect that all or most of us – even the devil – appreciate a bit of sympathy now and again. The problem arises when the tail wags the dog ….During the time of the Roman Empire when they were persecuting Christians – for entertainment; on any given Sunday – the Romans decided to bury a bunch of Christians up to their chests in the middle of the Coliseum and then let a bunch of lions have at them. And, as it happens, one of the lions made a bee-line for one Christian, but, as it approached the victim, it got spooked for some reason so it jumped over him. At which point the Christian used his teeth to tear a chunk out of the lion’s “dangly bits†as it was passing over which completely incapacitated the poor beast. But there was a roar from the crowd at this: “Fight fair! Fight fair!â€
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Heh! Just watching a BBC 4 program I snagged on thebox.bz about model train enthusiasts. Towards the end they are talking about the new generation who grew up watching (rather than reading) Thomas the Tank Engine, and pointing out that this generation tends to model modern, urban railways rather than rural stem. Below are a couple of snips of screenshots. Not sure whether this is a prank by the producer, or not. I'm sure most people would have missed it though, if they hadn't been a juvenile 52-year-old Viz fan like me.
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You could launder it through one of we valiant pitters who have nothing to lose from being doxxed:- vis those who use their real names as a matter of course.codelette wrote:Please, let me know if there's any way to donate anonymously.
I will like to send some money her way but have the same concerns you have.
Quite what PayPal charges for these merely financial transactions is beyond my current ken.
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She got called out and replied that it was up to the prospective partner to ask, if he really cared about such things.fascination wrote: I think a person should be upfront about that also. Even if its just for their personal safety. There are some people who would get violent after finding out that they slept with a trans person. I would be worried about that if it were me. I would want to make sure my partner was totally cool with it. I have a lot of sympathy for trans people. It must be a tough conversation to have.
The same shifting of responsibility we saw in the AIDS debate at Crommunist's place.
Imagine how well that would work out. "I really like you, babe. Do tell me, are you a transsexual?"
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Sort of, yeah, and it's a leather jacket. Remember, sexist group slurs are only bad if you are historically oppressed.fascination wrote:Wait, she has a t-shirt or endorsed a t-shirt that has "Die Cis Scum" printed on it?! She was joking right?Notung wrote:
THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES... etc
Even those people who grab you in the street asking for charity money (by regular Direct Debit) provide me with more reason to donate - but here's the thing: loads of charities are good causes (Operation Smile, for instance), and you can't donate to all of them. So just choose ones that you feel a 'connection' to, or particularly value. My dad had cancer, so I prefer cancer charities. I prefer the feeling that I'm helping (in a small way) cancer research to the feeling that I'm funding an unfamiliar and relatively privileged British medical student in India's expensive new computer, or to the feeling that I'm lining the pockets of a random internet Tumblr-SJW-blogger who I've not seen do anything except for angrily lashing out at other people, thinks that t-shirts that say 'DIE CIS SCUM' are acceptable garments (I'm not making this up) and who has me blocked on Twitter (even though I've never interacted with her)...
...but each to their own*!
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Thank you John, that sums up my views on the matter pretty well.John Greg wrote:fascination, yes, Natalie holds some fairly toxic views regarding so-called "cis" people, the "fairness" of wearing a jacket that says Die Cis Scum on it, and so on. And back in the day, before I was banned from almost all of the FfTB blogs, I tried to highlight the hypocrisy of her stance to her. But, she is stubborn, dogmatic, and unable to project or feel much empathy except to those individuals with whom she specifically identifies -- and that is the laziest, weakest from of empathy there is.
Nonetheless, from my own perspective, much of that can be shuffled to the side, at least temporarily, in light of her impending homelessness. I would not advocate trying to help her out as an attempt to show FfTB, et al, that we are better than them, so to speak (what they are calling spite-charity) but, although it sounds otherwise, I do think that for ourselves, as individuals, if we really want to put our money where our mouths are and prove to ourselves that we are in fact humanists holding some kind of high moral ground, we must take the first step in proving it.
When it comes to peace talks, so to speak, someone, on one side or another, must take the first step and then follow through. And in our wee world of atheism / skepticism / humanism, I feel that means that if someone wants to help someone else avoid homelessness, it is meaningful and morally sound and ethical to overlook, at least for the time being, distasteful attitudes and opinions they may have held in the past that do not have any direct bearing on their potential homelessness.
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Lsuoma is working on that. :)Michael K Gray wrote:You could launder it through one of we valiant pitters who have nothing to lose from being doxxed:- vis those who use their real names as a matter of course.codelette wrote:Please, let me know if there's any way to donate anonymously.
I will like to send some money her way but have the same concerns you have.
Quite what PayPal charges for these merely financial transactions is beyond my current ken.
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ROFL! I'm a boxxer too, what's the program called?Lsuoma wrote:Heh! Just watching a BBC 4 program I snagged on thebox.bz about model train enthusiasts. Towards the end they are talking about the new generation who grew up watching (rather than reading) Thomas the Tank Engine, and pointing out that this generation tends to model modern, urban railways rather than rural stem. Below are a couple of snips of screenshots. Not sure whether this is a prank by the producer, or not. I'm sure most people would have missed it though, if they hadn't been a juvenile 52-year-old Viz fan like me.
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend1.jpg
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend2.jpg
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love to Brisby and Chloe. Give each of them a yogurt dipped raisin. They go crazy for those.lonesagi wrote:Life's been a bit hectic lately. Looks like the Pit has grown in leaps and bounds.sacha wrote: where have you been, lonesagi?
Brisby and Chloe send their regards, Sacha! (At least, I think they do. I'm not completely fluent in rat.)
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Great post, John. Thanks.John Greg wrote:[spoiler]fascination, yes, Natalie holds some fairly toxic views regarding so-called "cis" people, the "fairness" of wearing a jacket that says Die Cis Scum on it, and so on. And back in the day, before I was banned from almost all of the FfTB blogs, I tried to highlight the hypocrisy of her stance to her. But, she is stubborn, dogmatic, and unable to project or feel much empathy except to those individuals with whom she specifically identifies -- and that is the laziest, weakest from of empathy there is.
Nonetheless, from my own perspective, much of that can be shuffled to the side, at least temporarily, in light of her impending homelessness. I would not advocate trying to help her out as an attempt to show FfTB, et al, that we are better than them, so to speak (what they are calling spite-charity) but, although it sounds otherwise, I do think that for ourselves, as individuals, if we really want to put our money where our mouths are and prove to ourselves that we are in fact humanists holding some kind of high moral ground, we must take the first step in proving it.
When it comes to peace talks, so to speak, someone, on one side or another, must take the first step and then follow through. And in our wee world of atheism / skepticism / humanism, I feel that means that if someone wants to help someone else avoid homelessness, it is meaningful and morally sound and ethical to overlook, at least for the time being, distasteful attitudes and opinions they may have held in the past that do not have any direct bearing on their potential homelessness.[/spoiler]
Regarding motives for things like this, one has to remember that at the end of the day we are all just The Man In The Shack: "It merely pleases me to behave in a certain way to what appears to be a cat."
Choices are regret minimization (look up Jeff Bezos on this Outlook), or discomfort minimization, depending on the timescale of one's outlook. Any person that disagrees is blind to their own blinders.
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Michael K Gray wrote:You may change your opinion after being imprisoned.Trophy wrote:Sure. We can disagree. I still maintain that on the grand scheme of things, it is a very small issue.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Did I misread you? Because my then 13 years old alter-ego wishes to differ.
brilliant
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"Timeshift - The Joy of (Train) Sets"d4m10n wrote:ROFL! I'm a boxxer too, what's the program called?Lsuoma wrote:[spoiler]Heh! Just watching a BBC 4 program I snagged on thebox.bz about model train enthusiasts. Towards the end they are talking about the new generation who grew up watching (rather than reading) Thomas the Tank Engine, and pointing out that this generation tends to model modern, urban railways rather than rural stem. Below are a couple of snips of screenshots. Not sure whether this is a prank by the producer, or not. I'm sure most people would have missed it though, if they hadn't been a juvenile 52-year-old Viz fan like me.
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend1.jpg
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend2.jpg[/spoiler]
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I hear you Zenspace. I understand your position too (and francs!). I have to admit that I'm a bit of a bleeding heart. Its one of the things that annoys the shit out of my husband. Luckily I'm good looking and give really good blow jobs so he tends to overlook the little things. :)
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Re: Slyme Pit Orgy, Sponsored by Vicky's Bewbs
franc (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 094#p55094) said:
I found that when I was homeless, the most generous and helpful people were other homeless people. Mind you, some of the most damaged and just plain nuts people were homeless too, but that points more to a government that shut down almost every so-called mental hospital in the province and poured the nutters out onto the stree to fend and die for themselves.
Also, for the record, a very large percentage of homeless people in this part of the world are not kids, they are adults, often middle aged, and even seniors, who have fallen through the many cracks that our self-concerned society has openned up beneath their shakey feet.
I understand your point. For the record, when I am employed, especially when I am employed on a contract within my actual professional profession (tech writing), I, on average, spend about 10-15% of my annual gross income on homeless people via direct handouts, and providing provisions, food, clothing, gift cards, and other helpful stuff, to actual homeless people on the streets in my nieghbourhood.Do something for your own community where the actual problems are visible to you. I would guess the majority of folks here pass by numerous homeless everyday without ever seeing them, the "invisible people", as they go about their daily business. How about buying a homeless kid a sandwich?
I found that when I was homeless, the most generous and helpful people were other homeless people. Mind you, some of the most damaged and just plain nuts people were homeless too, but that points more to a government that shut down almost every so-called mental hospital in the province and poured the nutters out onto the stree to fend and die for themselves.
Also, for the record, a very large percentage of homeless people in this part of the world are not kids, they are adults, often middle aged, and even seniors, who have fallen through the many cracks that our self-concerned society has openned up beneath their shakey feet.
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LOL, no that would not go over well. Like I said though, I feel for trans people.decius wrote:She got called out and replied that it was up to the prospective partner to ask, if he really cared about such things.fascination wrote: I think a person should be upfront about that also. Even if its just for their personal safety. There are some people who would get violent after finding out that they slept with a trans person. I would be worried about that if it were me. I would want to make sure my partner was totally cool with it. I have a lot of sympathy for trans people. It must be a tough conversation to have.
The same shifting of responsibility we saw in the AIDS debate at Crommunist's place.
Imagine how well that would work out. "I really like you, babe. Do tell me, are you a transsexual?"
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Trophy wrote:
Okay, I checked the link and the survey and I was wrong. Yes, in the past 12 months, the survey lists 1.1% of the sample (est. 1.26M men in total) as victims of "made to penetrate" with 80% of them commited by women. So I was very wrong. I really apologize.
And yes, it's equal to the percentage of women raped in the sample. So I guess I was the fucking moron, huh.
not anymore you aren't. cheers for admitting you were wrong.
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You mean that Bell End isn't the name of the station?Lsuoma wrote:[spoiler]Heh! Just watching a BBC 4 program I snagged on thebox.bz about model train enthusiasts. Towards the end they are talking about the new generation who grew up watching (rather than reading) Thomas the Tank Engine, and pointing out that this generation tends to model modern, urban railways rather than rural stem. Below are a couple of snips of screenshots. Not sure whether this is a prank by the producer, or not. I'm sure most people would have missed it though, if they hadn't been a juvenile 52-year-old Viz fan like me.[/spoiler]
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend1.jpg
http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/bend2.jpg