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Lsuoma wrote:
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cunt wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:Split & locked, to see if it fixes slowdown.

BTW, only visiting briefly here today due to deadlines at work. Will reply to IMs and acknowledge donations over the weekend.
Unban Eucliwood.
She was threatening to report us to the authorities for picking on a minor. You might have missed that post of hers. That doesn't mix well with all her attempts at sexual jocularity with us. A magnet for getting us shut down for some sort of child-porn/sexual-interference/whatever-to-a-minor magnet if you ask me. Just like we didn't want Oolon fucking us up with his cp upload, I think we have to be careful around Eucliwood. Also, she's either mental or maliciously trying to get us in trouble. I think mental most likely, and that doesn't mix well with a possible paranoid call to the authorities like she threatened.

I'm all for free speech normally, but anything sexual to do with a minor could get us shut down. And she was definitely trying to get into sexual conversations here. Plus of course, her paranoid threats to call the authorities on us. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be so firm in my opinion here, but she's here looking to cause trouble.
She's NOT banned - she's moderated, and I approved a post that said I sucked my pitfriends' dicks, so she can't even be accused of being censored.

BTW, colon didn't upload CP, that was a user (SurelyYouGuest) who got quickly banned. colon just admitted DOWNLOADING it and saving it on his computer.
Oh ok, I hadn't realized that he wasn't also the original uploader.

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Some lurker posted a questionable pic of a girl with what looked like jizz on her face. I said it looked questionable. Lsuoma banned the lurker. Ool0n had given up arguing seriously and was trying his best to troll people with the gendered slur arguments. He downloaded the pic and tried to troll some more. Nobody took him seriously, except maybe Tony Parsehole and myself who kept reminding him that he downloaded child porn by his own admission every time the little bell-end popped his head up. He declared himself thoroughly bored and flounced off to write a blog article about his effective trolling of the slymepit.

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I have a bad feeling about this.


The presence of Surly Amy in the comments section of the American Secular Census, the timing of the info dump, PZed's running with the blog post on it, and the pastel colors makes me think the census is being skewed. How is sockpuppetry being controlled?

http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2013/ ... qo.twitter

Get ready. It's coming.

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cunt wrote:In other words, nobody involved in creating it has the slightest background in sociology.
Qualifications Shmalifications! They don't need no stinking education. Anyways, they've already pre-determined most of the answers, so accuracy and methodology won't matter. And if you question any of that, you're probably an evil "hyper-skeptic" MRA privileged cis-sexist. Or you just don't believe women are people! *sob* I'm going to flounce, dammit, I can't take this anymore! Anyways, the scientific method was invented by white-coated men to oppress us women and to suppress our magical intuitions about how evil the menz are.

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BTW, colon didn't upload CP, that was a user (SurelyYouGuest) who got quickly banned. colon just admitted DOWNLOADING it and saving it on his computer.


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16bitheretic wrote:Mandatory with the title of this new thread

[youtube]LnzYG0ZkrXg[/youtube]


Ah the stephanie zvan song !!Because she is , as you all know, a dick

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OMG I'm listening to the God Discussion podcast with Al Stefanelli right now, and that bible thumper guy was fucking ANNOYING!

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16bitheretic wrote:OMG I'm listening to the God Discussion podcast with Al Stefanelli right now, and that bible thumper guy was fucking ANNOYING!
Link.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discus ... the-clergy

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bhoytony wrote:... Are they [Americans] really so insular that they cannot watch anything not based in the US?
Pretty much, yes.

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Post by Gefan »

ReneeHendricks wrote:
Submariner wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:So, my guy is out of surgery. He had his lymph nodes removed, the mass removed, and a portion of the back of his tongue removed. Oh, and they STILL won't know for another fucking week if the whole thing is malignant or not. WTF? The doctor said they'd check the mass right away to see if there was an issue. I'm not fucking happy right now.

If I were still religious, I'd say you have my prayers. Since I'm not, here's hoping everything works out for you and your guy.

((Renee))
Thank you, I appreciate the thoughts/good wishes. As does my guy. He knows that I really rely upon a lot of people here on the Slymepit :) And he's grateful for it.

Hang in there Renee.

And thanks for reminding me there is Cake Vodka somewhere in my freezer.

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If people are looking for crazy foreign/subtitled films, I recommend Symbol. It's probably not for everybody. But if you're the type of person who is intrigued by human "Mouse Trap" type things, it's a quite entertaining watch.

The movie is broken into two halves. First, it's about a mexican pro-wrestler who is apprehensive before his next fight. Second (the main part) is about one main in a blank white room, trying to escape. How they come together is...interesting to say the least.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:So, my guy is out of surgery. He had his lymph nodes removed, the mass removed, and a portion of the back of his tongue removed. Oh, and they STILL won't know for another fucking week if the whole thing is malignant or not. WTF? The doctor said they'd check the mass right away to see if there was an issue. I'm not fucking happy right now.
I AM NOT AN MD, but it MAY BE that what your doctor meant was that as the surgeon removed the piece of tongue, a pathologist would rapidly freeze the piece of tissue and examine slices of it through a microscope. The purpose is to make sure the surgeon removes all of the suspicious thing, and NOT to provide a diagnosis (that will be done later, using a similar process but with better preparations of the removed tissue).

So, the "issue" your doc suggested MIGHT be whether the surgeon has been forced to leave behind some suspicious tissue in order to preserve important structures.

I AM NOT AN MD.

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re: the secular census bs-

One of my closest friends in college and several years after was a woman who got her degree and worked in a STEM field. Conservatively, I'd guess that the gender split in her field was 80/20 m/f. She never complained about anything like sexual harassment or misogyny, but she was always terribly insecure about often being being the only woman in the room. It's not like she was some shrinking violet, either, it's just human nature to feel uncomfortable sticking out. I worked a job for a few years in the exact opposite situation. A lot of times I felt uncomfortable being the only man in the room.

The online "atheist census" puts the gender split in atheism at something like 75/25 iirc. That's probably weighted to the male side just by virtue of being an online poll, but based on experience it's in the right neighborhood, yeah? All things considered, I'm honestly kind of surprised the number of women who reported feeling uncomfortable sometime somewhere at some event wasn't even higher. Maybe the data actually shows what a great job secular communities are doing promoting women's attendance at events.

Or maybe the data shows that women are more forthright about feeling uncomfortable than men. Or maybe the data shows that women can expect rampant ass-grabbing and fake jewelry at secular events. I know I'm like the hundredth person to say this today, but there's no way of knowing because the survey was so poorly designed.

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Very often I'm the only man around in amongst a group of mothers and/or teachers and/or healthcare professionals when I'm with my kids or at some school event or something. I barely say a word. I hate to get singled out too.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:So, my guy is out of surgery. He had his lymph nodes removed, the mass removed, and a portion of the back of his tongue removed. Oh, and they STILL won't know for another fucking week if the whole thing is malignant or not. WTF? The doctor said they'd check the mass right away to see if there was an issue. I'm not fucking happy right now.
*sigh* At least when surgery was over for us, it was *over*. But more waiting afterwards... Im sorry. **HUG**

Scented Nectar wrote:
Consultation on Census methodology is provided by Dr. Connie Bish, who earned a Ph.D. in Biological and Biomedical Science and a Master of Public Health degree in Epidemiology from Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. Currently, Dr. Bish is an instructional and applied epidemiologist. She has experience collecting and analyzing data ranging from clinical research protocols to population level surveillance of health outcomes. Dr. Bish utilizes statistical methodology that assists in teasing out the multifactorial individual, societal, cultural, and environmental components of health.
Dr. Bish should be downright ashamed of her methodology in this census. I wonder if her other data work is as shoddy. Anyone who would write that vague question without asking further details, should probably be put out to pasture. Although, to give her the benefit of the doubt, they only 'consulted' her, she may not have written them. It might have all been written by Sikes.

Also, sure enough, this is a money making scheme. They've made a business name for themselves: Secular Innovations LLC, but they are saying that the census is run by Secular Americans (capitalized). Is that also a business name? Some group or club made up to sound official or something?

I'm looking at a sample of what's in the census, and sure enough there's more vague shit. Like "In the past two years, have you met with an elected official to discuss an issue?" Only answers are yes or no. How do they know whether you've complained about keeping religious shit out of public places, or whether you really want someone to finally fix the pothole in the road near your house?

They are also very interested in whether or not you are a charity donor or not, including how much you've donated. I expect that's more to line up potential easy marks donors.

Smells corrupt as fuck. And a big fail at collecting data, if their purpose is really what they claim.
I did biology and psychology in undergrad-- we had numerous *courses* just on generating surveys. I assumed this one was written by someone with no training at all... not a goddamn PhD. I dont even know how that is possible...

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From last thread:
[youtube]B0Rau01wbeo[/youtube]

On no planet is that Jen.

I live in 'the bad part of town' (not like OKC is East St. Louis, its nice, I dont know why people are scared of my neighborhood), and Jen would probably have problems living here.
[youtube]DW--7ZmXrXo[/youtube]
Thats funny, but similar things have happened to me on several independent occasions, and the first few times it scared me. Not because they were black, but because I wasnt used to guys being that forward/persistent.

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Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!

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ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
I understand why people might be anti-vax; I know they're wrong, but I get it - needles and strange substances are scary. But I could never figure out the anti-GMO movement at all. Why are people afraid of fucking tomatoes?

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I can almost feel the sane feminists cringing. He is joking right? Equal pay is a legitimate feminist concern, but it refers to equal pay for equal work. Complaining that nurses get paid less than the average construction worker as if it were a misogynistic culture that promotes this is retarded. They're just two different jobs and the employer will always pay the least they feel they can get away with.

When male nurses get paid less than female construction workers (they do) people don't scream about the matriarchy.
This is actually a big deal among mainstream feminism. It's called comparable worth. The idea is that they create an index figure for different job categories. The indexes are heavily weighted on time spent getting educated for the job and do not weigh risk or personal discomfort. As a result, jobs like coal miner tend to score closely to jobs like waitress, since niether requires a high school education. Yes, they are trying to push this into law, and Minnesota published their index on the web.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:God dammit, I was sitting in the old thread refreshing, wondering why posting stopped so suddenly. I didn't realize it was locked.

You cunts are trying to play without me!
Didn't you read about it on the secret forum?
There's a secret forum???

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LIE???

YOU LYING LIAR!!!

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!!
But the thread even had your name in the topic. Didn't you see it?
Oh shit, we weren't meant to say anything. My bad.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
decius wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:So, my guy is out of surgery. He had his lymph nodes removed, the mass removed, and a portion of the back of his tongue removed. Oh, and they STILL won't know for another fucking week if the whole thing is malignant or not. WTF? The doctor said they'd check the mass right away to see if there was an issue. I'm not fucking happy right now.
They need to grow tissue in vitro, I suppose. Best wishes, Renee.
Of that, I don't have a doubt. However, they told me and my guy that as soon as they removed the mass, they could check it and see. Kind of assholish if you ask me.
I hope it hasn't spread further and your guy has a speedy recovery. It was irresponisible of them to tell you that they could determine it right away. It might be obvious at the time of removal, but often it isn't and requires labwork to be sure.
When I was in the recovery room just coming out of anesthesia from my biopsy, the surgeon stopped in and said "Looks like cancer." and left. He didn't answer my calls for ten days after that.

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Clearly I am late to this party... but I was surfing around YouTube and I came upon this guy:

[youtube]YgaWQiJLS08[/youtube]

Pray tell, who is this simpering, smug little self righteous prating twat? Does he have a Freethought Blogs handle? Can we play spot the FTB nym?

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Post by fascination »

Renee, I'll be thinking of you guys. Are we allowed to offer hugs here? [[Hugs]]

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I'm glad that things seem to be working out for Natalie. Thank you for updating us Andrew.

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Cunning Punt wrote:Clearly I am late to this party... but I was surfing around YouTube and I came upon this guy:

*video snip*

Pray tell, who is this simpering, smug little self righteous prating twat? Does he have a Freethought Blogs handle? Can we play spot the FTB nym?
He's either a poe or a random internet loony. He's got another vid about how aliens built the pyramids.

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Post by Lsuoma »

Cunning Punt wrote:Clearly I am late to this party... but I was surfing around YouTube and I came upon this guy:

[youtube]YgaWQiJLS08[/youtube]

Pray tell, who is this simpering, smug little self righteous prating twat? Does he have a Freethought Blogs handle? Can we play spot the FTB nym?
Oh, this CasesAndMaterials guy is just a complete cuntfaced wanker. He's surfaced here before, and he's possibly the most deranged idiot ever to try and impersonate the Joker.

Boring and stupid as fuck - he has a running feud with the delightful Renee. He also loses big-time to a young youtuber called Snakepliskinist regularly.

He's a classic Dunning-Kruegerite.

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Lsuoma wrote:and he's possibly the most deranged idiot ever to try and impersonate the Joker.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8WODveVoOYw/mqdefault.jpg

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Regarding survey methods and interpretations: I actually have a Ph.D. in Sociology, and worked in survey research for a few years. If anyone wants to PM me with specific questions, I'll try to answer them. (Sorry, but it does need to be by PM. There's ZERO chance of my keeping up with the thread.)

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comslave wrote:
I can almost feel the sane feminists cringing. He is joking right? Equal pay is a legitimate feminist concern, but it refers to equal pay for equal work. Complaining that nurses get paid less than the average construction worker as if it were a misogynistic culture that promotes this is retarded. They're just two different jobs and the employer will always pay the least they feel they can get away with.

When male nurses get paid less than female construction workers (they do) people don't scream about the matriarchy.
This is actually a big deal among mainstream feminism. It's called comparable worth. The idea is that they create an index figure for different job categories. The indexes are heavily weighted on time spent getting educated for the job and do not weigh risk or personal discomfort. As a result, jobs like coal miner tend to score closely to jobs like waitress, since niether requires a high school education. Yes, they are trying to push this into law, and Minnesota published their index on the web.
It's my understanding that Canada did this a while back. It made construction work and office cleaner the same pay grade. It didn't take long for all those construction workers to go for the nice cushy office jobs, creating a severe labor shortage within the construction industry.

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Metalogic42 wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:and he's possibly the most deranged idiot ever to try and impersonate the Joker.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8WODveVoOYw/mqdefault.jpg
It's a fair cop...

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BTW, Eucliwoo - please don't send me PMs. I'm not going to reply to you.

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Mark Neil wrote:
comslave wrote:

It's my understanding that Canada did this a while back. It made construction work and office cleaner the same pay grade. It didn't take long for all those construction workers to go for the nice cushy office jobs, creating a severe labor shortage within the construction industry.
Just more evidence that feminism is really socialism with tits.

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AbsurdWalls wrote:
Are you joking about Oolon? That didn't happen did it?
Scented Nectar is exaggerating. She picked out something I said to one dude, and turned it into "throwing something back at the smart ass guy threatening to get you all arrested and sacrificing myself in the process (while purposely creating a false dichotomy of "mental and can't help herself or just a malicious person because she's totally going to get him in trouble for real and put herself through the traumatizing legal and public trouble.)"

And it's kind of paranoid to think that people would just get into legal trouble like that *snap*. Perhaps if I did actually report it myself, but seriously, where places I come from, people get away with shitloads of stuff that's actually illegal - if the minor isn't just trying to throw people in jail. Granted, I don't actually believe she's worried about the forum - if I claim that something happened here, in the text of the forum (hell, even PMs!) and it uh, DIDN'T, then how can people get into trouble? Police can easily check. I'm not risking anyone on the forum and she really needs to stop having her panties in a bunch,

and also drop the old habits of her radfem cult - making her enemies look superbad by saying "omg, they'll result in [this] for us!" This is no different from that smart ass on a thread who said that us Slymepitters are honestly dangerous and would stalk them or physically attack them. :roll:

Eh, once a radfem, always a radfem, maybe? She still reeks of their engineering tactics. I never did like the fact that she used to be in cahoots with them for SOOO long, but I didn't want to be someone who didn't let someone bury their past because I've changed from a bad place before... but I was never that judgmental person for THAT fucking long, and c'mon, ew... that cult... is a major sin.


So anyway, no. Even if some scary, mean adult did something to me - coerced me into doing vomit douching on camera for him and threatening to send it to everyone everywhere's, I wouldn't report it. That would mean so much bad for me too. I'd have to testify, go through a totally warped atmosphere at home, worry about the emotions of my adults, etc. I'd be taking myself down with them, and I've gone through enough. Do not ask.

People who are honeypots - that is, works without the cops to get people thrown into jail - are a creepy type of malicious to me. They don't even care about what happens with themselves and what it makes them look like (and it would stir negative attention for them too). When people are set up with cops, I don't think they go on a trial or anything, or have their victimization reported and talked about.

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Lsuoma wrote: She's NOT banned - she's moderated, and I approved a post that said I sucked my pitfriends' dicks, so she can't even be accused of being censored.
Big whoop, Lsuoma. I never claimed that you were moderating insults I say back - that wouldn't be a ban, just being treated like some kid - but I'm basically banned. When I wasn't on moderation, my posts would simply appear, I could get replies, etc. But now when I post, I feel like it just might be for nothing, because it's not even posted. I have to wait for YOU to decide to read them - major lag, and I saw the jokes about waiting a month to even look at my posts. It's like I'm banned - no one actually sees my posts unless they go scrounging around for past posts they somehow missed (like mine... 'cept it wasn't their fault they mised it. It was never there til you approved it), on a fast pace forum like this.

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Post by John Greg »

Mark Neil (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 528#p55528) said:
She has what she needs thanks to donations, thanked us for our concern and doesn't want to be used as a pawn in the political back and forth so asked not to use her to shame PZ et all. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't see her being ungrateful. Perhaps you can elaborate?
No, she did not "thank us". She made a generic non-specific thank you to doners highlighted by an accusation that the Pytters who did donate only did so because they want to score points against FfTB. And that's bullshit; that is pissing on the people who helped her out.

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I've grown to hate that message saying I must wait on Lsuoma for my post to even fucking exist. When it DOES exist, it won't matter. I'm basically non-existent here. I can read the forum, but interacting with users is locked for me... the only one that's sure to know what I said is Lsuoma's donkey ass.

It's like my fate is in his hands! (Obviously kidding/Being dramatic)

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God damn, going back to read new posts knowing what I just fucking said isn't even there & that it already wouldn't matter by NOW if it was just approved this second, 'cause the forum has moved fast, is too irritating. Lsuoma, quit acting like this is doesn't basically ruin it for me. Either take me off moderation, or just delete my account and the posts along with it. Deleting my posts would only help you, right? So that those posts that are obviouslyriskyanddangerousforthisforum aren't seen. If, for some reason, you wouldn't delete my posts along with my account (although that would say to me that you didn't put me on moderation for the reason you claim), then don't delete my account.

But I hate that my account is here, as if I can even fucking use it. It's like having a fridge full of holographic food. -no, papa, cut the hologram off. You didn't buy us food, and don't act like you did. Don't taunt us with fake food.

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There is no button. There is no pushing.

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BTW, none of the recent donations were flagged as being for Natalie Reed - if they should be directed that way, please will the donor PM me?

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Just reread Eucliwoo's posts. Clearly 100% troll, trying to push. A waste of atoms that could be used to form something useful like faeces or mud daubers.

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rayshul wrote:
Husband and I were discussing the mindworm of social justice shit over dinner. It is one of those perfect little things that teaches its followers that THINKING is bad and If you think or try to analyse the situation you are part of the PROBLEM and you ou need to accept unquestioningly what you are told
This is absolute nonsense that needs to be challenged and rightly so, too. I am all for listening now, but reserve the right to make my own mind up - even if that means being wrong. So what appears to be happening is the imposition of an ideology, one of whose main features appears to be its unquestioning acceptance. So count me out because I do not do groupthink now. Ideas may or may not be good but in the absence of the freedom to question them and explore alternatives, it is not conducive to critical thinking - which is rather ironic given that it is supposedly one of the core principles of Atheism Plus - and yet it is not fundamentally a debate forum so how are these two aims compatible now ? And something else too : Piegasm in all seriousness thinks that ignoring someone who is constatntly telling you to fuck off is wrong, because you are imposing your own standards of behaviour on them and that is tone policing - seriously

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John Greg wrote:Mark Neil (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 528#p55528) said:
She has what she needs thanks to donations, thanked us for our concern and doesn't want to be used as a pawn in the political back and forth so asked not to use her to shame PZ et all. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't see her being ungrateful. Perhaps you can elaborate?
No, she did not "thank us". She made a generic non-specific thank you to doners highlighted by an accusation that the Pytters who did donate only did so because they want to score points against FfTB. And that's bullshit; that is pissing on the people who helped her out.
[spoiler]Btw, while I'm very appreciative that many of the Slymepitters have been supportive, could you pass along that I'm rather uncomfortable with them using me as a device to shame Greta and Avicenna's requests for donations? Both of them had very legitimate needs too -Greta's cancer-related expenses (she doesn't have the benefit of Canadian healthcare, after all, and is freelancing now so, like most writers and artists, doesn't have insurance through employment), and Avi's laptop to help with work (its much-needed medical charity work, too!).

Also, at this point, the generosity I've received from my readers has already pretty much met all my immediate needs-

[redacted details]

I also tend to feel really really weird, just on an ethical level, when donations exceed my needs, so I took the tip jar down for now, just so I don't end up crossing that point. I've also turned down offers from co-bloggers to promote it, and when PZ put up a request on Pharyngula I asked him to take it down, again because I didn't want it to become more of a "big deal" than it needed to be, and I didn't want to receive more than I actually needed.

So... yeah, if you could just pass on the word that a) the generosity from my readers has already been really really great, and I've already got much more than I expected and just about as much as I need for the things I mentioned, and b) I'm uncomfortable with being involved in any conflicts, or attempts to paint Greta or Avicenna's financial needs as illegitimate or dishonest.

And pass on my thanks as well! I appreciate that despite overall animosity or differences, y'all have been kind about this, and I appreciate how the atheist/skeptic community is one that does a really great job of supporting its own when in need. It's a great counter-argument to the Christian claim that religion is necessary for community and charity. Unbelievers tend to do a pretty great job at charity, actually![/spoiler]

Now, I can see how you could interpret the parts where she acknowledges she's gotten enough of a response from her readers as dismissing the contributions of the pitters, but given how many pitters were himming and hawwing over anonymity or outright refusing, I can't imagine a great deal came from the pit, and it may not have been easy to identify those that did due to anonymous donations, making it a rather unfair interpretation given the bolded parts.

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Lsuoma wrote:Just reread Eucliwoo's posts. Clearly 100% troll, trying to push. A waste of atoms that could be used to form something useful like faeces or mud daubers.
Are
You
Kidding Me???

...No. You don't get to do that. Do your god damn job.

God, you're cowardly. (Points for fast approving due to you being active. Minus points for double posting in my name - something I took the time not to do. If anyone complains, it's your fault.) You just don't want to respond to my request. You're the only moderator on here, so yeah, I'm going to bother *you* with it. - TAKE. ME. OFF. MODERATION. OR DELETE MY POSTS *AND* MY ACCOUNT. IF YOU REFUSE TO DO ONE IN THE LATTER (DELETING BOTH), THEN JUST FORGET IT. DO YOU UNDER STAND? "CLEARLY A TROLL" MY ASS.

If I'm going to be shaken off this forum, I want a clean break from it. Requesting your account or posts be deleted isn't fucking troll behavior and plenty of people are SERIOUS when they ask you to. Fucking shit moderator, this one.

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Metalogic42 wrote:Why are people afraid of fucking tomatoes?
The mess.

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Lsuoma wrote:Just reread Eucliwoo's posts. Clearly 100% troll, trying to push. A waste of atoms that could be used to form something useful like faeces or mud daubers.

"This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved."

What's with the false last part? I'm never notified when my post is approved. Hate this moderation shit. Usually just leave forums if they put that for too long on new members.

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ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
Yeah that was awkward with these 4 absolutely uneducated women up against the entire group. I'm guessing they're all scared mothers???

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Eucliwood wrote:What's with the false last part? I'm never notified when my post is approved. Hate this moderation shit. Usually just leave forums if they put that for too long on new members.
I have that notification disabled, for my own reason upon which I won't elaborate here. I haven't been arsed to edit the notification - if you don't like it call your lawyer or local G-man.

"Usually just leave"? Do it, please.

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And going to disable the spoiler tag too: I demonstrated a complete break of php using this JS crap to my CSO this afternoon.

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birdterrifier wrote:
ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
Yeah that was awkward with these 4 absolutely uneducated women up against the entire group. I'm guessing they're all scared mothers???

I'm always surprised (but shouldn't be) by men and women who claim to be skeptics who have their brains fall out the second they pop a sprog. The woo about pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, vaccination, medications, diet out there is overwhelming... even otherwise perfectly rational people become crunchy granola earth mothers overnight and their husbands often go along with it. It disturbs me. I didn't lose (many) brain cells when I bred. It's amazing how when it comes to your kids so many people are willing to swallow the "natural=good" BS.

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Eucliwood wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote:
Are you joking about Oolon? That didn't happen did it?
Scented Nectar is exaggerating. She picked out something I said to one dude, and turned it into "throwing something back at the smart ass guy threatening to get you all arrested and sacrificing myself in the process (while purposely creating a false dichotomy of "mental and can't help herself or just a malicious person because she's totally going to get him in trouble for real and put herself through the traumatizing legal and public trouble.)"

And it's kind of paranoid to think that people would just get into legal trouble like that *snap*. Perhaps if I did actually report it myself, but seriously, where places I come from, people get away with shitloads of stuff that's actually illegal - if the minor isn't just trying to throw people in jail. Granted, I don't actually believe she's worried about the forum - if I claim that something happened here, in the text of the forum (hell, even PMs!) and it uh, DIDN'T, then how can people get into trouble? Police can easily check. I'm not risking anyone on the forum and she really needs to stop having her panties in a bunch,

and also drop the old habits of her radfem cult - making her enemies look superbad by saying "omg, they'll result in [this] for us!" This is no different from that smart ass on a thread who said that us Slymepitters are honestly dangerous and would stalk them or physically attack them. :roll:

Eh, once a radfem, always a radfem, maybe? She still reeks of their engineering tactics. I never did like the fact that she used to be in cahoots with them for SOOO long, but I didn't want to be someone who didn't let someone bury their past because I've changed from a bad place before... but I was never that judgmental person for THAT fucking long, and c'mon, ew... that cult... is a major sin.


So anyway, no. Even if some scary, mean adult did something to me - coerced me into doing vomit douching on camera for him and threatening to send it to everyone everywhere's, I wouldn't report it. That would mean so much bad for me too. I'd have to testify, go through a totally warped atmosphere at home, worry about the emotions of my adults, etc. I'd be taking myself down with them, and I've gone through enough. Do not ask.

People who are honeypots - that is, works without the cops to get people thrown into jail - are a creepy type of malicious to me. They don't even care about what happens with themselves and what it makes them look like (and it would stir negative attention for them too). When people are set up with cops, I don't think they go on a trial or anything, or have their victimization reported and talked about.
Eucliwood,

I realize you are young and may not understand, but you committed a pretty unforgivable error. And that was joking or not, threatening to make a false accusation to the cops about the behavior of a member of this forum.

That was when I immediately changed from supporting you to saying you should be banned or moderated.

When it was pointed out what you did that was so problematic, you didn't take responsibility for it, instead you said, "I was only joking". Of course, the big rationalization of false accusations is they are made in the heat of the moment, and the person says, "I was only joking."

Eucliwood -- no one wants to ban you for your ideas but the truth is you have repeatedly acted irresponsibly towards this forum and to Jason Thibeault and you have done so that makes it very problematic for everyone including, especially Lsuoma and possibly ERV because you are underage.

And though it's been pointed out to you what you did wrong, since then what you have done is call people names and whine about your oppression.

Basically as far as I am concerned since your "joke" you have only shown more and more that your moderation was completely justified and perhaps did not go far enough.

I think you should visit COTWA, visit saveservices, visit AVFM. Learn about false accusations.

But of course you won't read this because when I posted telling you your behavior was egregious, you whined, you refused to take responsibility for your behavior and instead you blamed me and called me names and announced that you had put me on foe.

Until you are 18 Eucliwood, piss off.

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Metalogic42 wrote:
ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
I understand why people might be anti-vax; I know they're wrong, but I get it - needles and strange substances are scary. But I could never figure out the anti-GMO movement at all. Why are people afraid of fucking tomatoes?
Having scientists mess with our food on behalf of industry is pretty scary. I certainly don't trust them to put safety ahead of profit.

There are probably people who are dumb enough to think it might result in mutant killer tomatoes, but for others there would be concerns about introduction of alien species... what effect will it have on local populations of insects and the knock on effect, for example.

Farmers are not particularly well trusted either after the Mad Cow Disease thing. We just had this thing in the UK with burgers being contaminated with horse meat which caused some people (my daughter) to freak out. So it is understandable that people get nervous when they are told that scientists are splicing in octopus DNA to our food (or whatever). I think half the problem is that very few people know anything about GMO.

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pandora wrote:
birdterrifier wrote:
ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
Yeah that was awkward with these 4 absolutely uneducated women up against the entire group. I'm guessing they're all scared mothers???

I'm always surprised (but shouldn't be) by men and women who claim to be skeptics who have their brains fall out the second they pop a sprog. The woo about pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, vaccination, medications, diet out there is overwhelming... even otherwise perfectly rational people become crunchy granola earth mothers overnight and their husbands often go along with it. It disturbs me. I didn't lose (many) brain cells when I bred. It's amazing how when it comes to your kids so many people are willing to swallow the "natural=good" BS.
If there had been a BJ with a good swallow - something I much prefer to a fuck, BTW - there'd be no problem with a fucking ankle-biter anyway.

And if it leads to humans dying out, fucking go for it. As Geoffrey Howe said on Spitting Image, "Let's give the ants a chance."

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I'll just leave this here.
http://i.imgur.com/KrZ2aVR.jpg
and
http://i.imgur.com/8C0kHwL.jpg
Oophie realizes it's her own damn fault for RTing a parody tweet.
:lol:

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From last thread:
Apples » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:39 pm • [Post 3039]

Over at Thunderdome there is a conversation about whether Turd of Redhead needs to find a word other than POOF when he presses his "poof fuckwittery opinion dismissed" button. He seems rather disgruntled, as it's apparently the only toy in his pram.

Actually started because "cm's changeable moniker" suggested *as a joke* that it shouldn't be used due to its being "harsh Brit slang for gay men." Of course Caine promptly affirms that she will no longer use it in her writing.

ChasCPeterson weighs in: "y’know, one alternative might be to not post the same words (whatever words) over and over and over and over and over and over. But that’s an opinion."

Nerd considers that he might begin using SGBM's suggestion, which is "Foof."

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... derdome-15
Tough luck for them. The French slang "pouffe" means whore in a very vulgar way. And the word "fouffe" means female genitalia in a vulgar way.

Of course, these are prononced "poof" and "foof". If they want to be SJWs and word police to the end, they have to take these cultural differences into account.

And let's hope they don't start a discussion about seals. We call them "phoque", and yeah, it's pronounced "fuck".

[youtube]vM8Mq4yz2Hw[/youtube]

Should be fun to watch...

ps: Steve, nice sig :p

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Did David Silverman compare Vacula to WBC/Xtians? Does he know JV?

Yikes...

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Metalogic42 wrote:
ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
I understand why people might be anti-vax; I know they're wrong, but I get it - needles and strange substances are scary. But I could never figure out the anti-GMO movement at all. Why are people afraid of fucking tomatoes?
There is the evidence-free fear of frankenstein plants.

However, there is some valid issues around Monsanto's use of patent laws.

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Could somebody who follows things fairly closely give a summary of the state of Atheism Plus?

I don't go to FTB and don't get their tweets. But am I right in saying that those that promoted the idea are now keeping the forum at arms length? Has this new wave, new movement become just a forum with a few whiners or is somebody actually pushing this forward elsewhere?


(And as I no longer sponsor the current thread, can I take this corset off now?)

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decius wrote:Dubbing is disgraceful and an insult to the art of acting and movie-making.
Unfortunately, general audiences are too stupid and lazy to realise this. There are countries where the practise is so engrained that the only way to see an original is by renting a DVD.

By chance, I recently caught a glimpse of the butchery that Italian dubbing wrought upon the Brest Fortress. Unbelievable.

http://theredphoenixapl.org/2011/02/23/ ... -fortress/
Worse even than dubbing: Poland.

Except for big Hollywood blockbusters and certain animation films, they let the original soundtrack and some guy with a deadpan voice just reads out the narrations on top of the soundtrack.

From wikipedia:
In Poland cinema releases for general audiences are almost exclusively subtitled, with the exception of children's movies, and television screenings of movies, as well as made-for-TV shows, are usually shown with voice-over, where a voice talent reads a translation over the original soundtrack. This method, called juxtareading, is similar to the so-called Gavrilov translation in Russia, with one difference—all dialogues are translated with only one acute, and usually male voice, preferably deep and neutral, that does not interfere with the pitch of voice of the original speakers in the background. To some extent, it resembles live translation. Certain highly qualified lectors are traditionally assigned to a particular kind of production, such as action or drama. Standard dubbing is not widely popular with most audiences, with the exception of cartoons and children's shows, which are dubbed also for TV releases.


I've seen this, and it's trully horrible.

[youtube]9OpXOsHXyvM[/youtube]

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Michael J wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:
ERV wrote:Ive just made three women uncomfortable in OKC Atheists group by challenging their anti-vax/anti-GMO positions.

SEXISM!!!!
I understand why people might be anti-vax; I know they're wrong, but I get it - needles and strange substances are scary. But I could never figure out the anti-GMO movement at all. Why are people afraid of fucking tomatoes?
There is the evidence-free fear of frankenstein plants.

However, there is some valid issues around Monsanto's use of patent laws.
I never see mentioned this very legitimate concerns of farmers:

* People around the globe are willing to pay a premium for non-GMO produce.
This may well be evidence-free emotion-based purchasing, but a massive market exists, nonetheless.
* Farmers can gain a fair bit of extra money for their crops if they are able to certify them "GMO Free".
* If it is a "free go", such that their neighbours are permitted to plant GM crops, then this infringes on their business-plan, as they are no longer able to claim "GMO Free" status. This is a lot like ancient "riparian rights" disputes in law, but not related to water supply, but clean pollen-free air.
* Tasmania is trying to take advantage of this premium, and declare the entire island to be "GMO Free", not out of any concerns about wither the technology, nor the influence of Monsanto, but because as a whole, Taswegian farmers can make a SHIT-LOAD by selling their produce in Europe.

Nothing to do with "safety", nor "corporate control", but everything to do with consumer choice, rational or not.

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VickyCaramel wrote: corset
pics? :pray:

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