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Post by ReneeHendricks » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:26 pm

rocko2466 wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
UnbelieveSteve wrote:BINGO I WIN!

http://i.imgur.com/s3CRVpD.jpg

Unfortunately i no longer have the @Secular_Steve Twitter ID. Ool0n is running a 'grab and steal' script and has targeted the pit.
I still have my account running thank fuck, but under my updated ID: @Steve_WCoA, so all is good.
Watch the little cunt. He's a sneaky one. Any modifications you choose to do to your Twitter ID, there's a chance you may not be able to return to it.
Ool0n King Haxxor i salute you. :moon:
Wait, what? That fucker had better not be doing this to me. I have enough fucking bullshit from that piece of shit stalker. If I find Oolon is running that crap on my name, I will fucking rain rage and fire on that little shit. I've been pretty nice 'til now.
He can't - unless you change your twitter ID to get around the Block Bot's script. It's not like he's hacking for passwords.
Actually, my point is more about creating accounts that are *like* mine. Enough to maybe fool some people. Which is what I'm dealing with in as far as this fucking, insipid, disgusting, vapid, ignorant, asinine, asshole stalker that goes by the name of Dawn Gordon.

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Post by Pitchguest » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:37 pm

On a totally unrelated note, what used to be my favourite webcomic, Sinfest, has now jumped the shark. For some reason, Tatsuya Ishida got totally enamored with feminist concepts like "The Patriarchy" and decided he would implement into the comic, which turned every character into a bland black and white caricature of their former selves. He also introduced various Mary Sue entities, conveniently called "The Sisterhood" and now that's all he does anymore. Everything is about "The Patriarchy", everything is a tool of "The Patriarchy", he even made a Matrix parody where "The Patriarchy" is the Matrix and "The Sisterhood" is designed to set others free. It's total bullshit, from beginning to end. The forum, too, has become riddled with a fainting couch brigade that wouldn't be out of place in the A+ forum.

I used to be a regular there, read it every day. I haven't checked it for several weeks now. I tuned in a couple of days ago and this is what I see,

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-02-07.gif

Just to give you an idea what "It-girl" (aka Monique) used to be like.

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2000-02-02.gif

I've been reading it since 2002 and it's really depressing that it's come to this. Ehh. :violin:

Anyway, don't mind the person behind the curtain. Move along!

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Post by Karmakin » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:37 pm

Submariner wrote:[youtube]qqjkCarI7xo[/youtube]
You know, I'm going to muddy up the waters some more...because the world is a messy place and as such the water IS muddy. But I think all the talk about equality and fairness or whatever, at the end of the day, entirely misses the mark, especially from a progressive point of view.

It isn't..or at least it shouldn't be about equality, or fairness. Quite frankly, the world is FAR too complicated for that. Alternatively, what we SHOULD be thinking about, at least the progressives among us, is what we think the baseline should be. What do we think the minimum should be. I mean, at least for me, things such as access to education and maintaining an economy where jobs supply/demand roughly match and that a reasonable work-week would result in a person being self-sustainable are examples of things that I personally think we should set as goals for where the baseline is in our society. It doesn't matter TOO much how much people are above this point, for the most part. What's important is how to adopt policies which ensure that the most people as possible are at at least those baseline levels.

So I think one of the major disservices that the various Social Justice movements have made on our culture, is that we focus on equality/fairness, and not about the nuts and bolts about what the minimum standards for our society should be, and more importantly, how to reach those standards.

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Post by Skep tickle » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:41 pm

ReneeHendricks wrote:
rocko2466 wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
UnbelieveSteve wrote:BINGO I WIN!

http://i.imgur.com/s3CRVpD.jpg

Unfortunately i no longer have the @Secular_Steve Twitter ID. Ool0n is running a 'grab and steal' script and has targeted the pit.
I still have my account running thank fuck, but under my updated ID: @Steve_WCoA, so all is good.
Watch the little cunt. He's a sneaky one. Any modifications you choose to do to your Twitter ID, there's a chance you may not be able to return to it.
Ool0n King Haxxor i salute you. :moon:
Wait, what? That fucker had better not be doing this to me. I have enough fucking bullshit from that piece of shit stalker. If I find Oolon is running that crap on my name, I will fucking rain rage and fire on that little shit. I've been pretty nice 'til now.
He can't - unless you change your twitter ID to get around the Block Bot's script. It's not like he's hacking for passwords.
Actually, my point is more about creating accounts that are *like* mine. Enough to maybe fool some people. Which is what I'm dealing with in as far as this fucking, insipid, disgusting, vapid, ignorant, asinine, asshole stalker that goes by the name of Dawn Gordon.
Hehe, my twitter account isn't on that list (yet). Hint for Oolon: It's under a quite different name, not "skep tickle".

('Course, I almost never use it, but maybe I'll start again...)

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Post by Karmakin » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:45 pm

And on a variety of other topics:

Sinfest has ALWAYS sucked.

The funny thing about hair color preference, is that at least in the circles I run in, I know of very few people who prefer blondes. It's mostly a preference towards black/red hair.

And I have to say, having Anne of Green Gables NOT with red hair is kinda wrong. Sorry, but that's how I feel about that. I think this is a modern retelling of the story? Which probably justifies entirely the new look, but still. It feels weird.

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Post by Altair » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:52 pm

Pitchguest wrote:On a totally unrelated note, what used to be my favourite webcomic, Sinfest, has now jumped the shark. For some reason, Tatsuya Ishida got totally enamored with feminist concepts like "The Patriarchy" and decided he would implement into the comic, which turned every character into a bland black and white caricature of their former selves.

(...)

I used to be a regular there, read it every day. I haven't checked it for several weeks now. I tuned in a couple of days ago and this is what I see,

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-02-07.gif
For people who have the radical idea that women are people, some feminists tend to think that women are unable to think by themselves and spend their days in a brainwashed automatic state.

I never read the comic before it jumped the shark, but it did help me realize Pharyngula had jumped the shark. I used to read it from time to time because of the articles about science and creationism, but I hadn't noticed what it had become until PZ posted the "Sisterhood part 7"

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4051 (the image is too big to embed)

That comic showed me the insane, paranoid and totally dogmatic nature of the "patriarchy" theory, and that's when I realized something was rotten in the state of skepticism.

Based on this comic, I would guess Tatsuya has received several opinions that mirror yours:

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-01-30.gif

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Post by Altair » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Karmakin wrote: The funny thing about hair color preference, is that at least in the circles I run in, I know of very few people who prefer blondes. It's mostly a preference towards black/red hair.
I think the place/country/city where you live plays some role on hair color preference. In South America there seems to be a preference for blondes with light-colored eyes, probably because the majority of people have dark hair and eyes.
Maybe if you live in a place where blond hair is common, people will be attracted to the less common black hair?

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.

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Post by John Greg » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:58 pm

Reap of the Lock

I know, I know, a bit too literary and obscure, but appropriate to storms in teacups.

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An' I don't have a bike either. I'm fat, drink too much good wine, eat too many good pizzes, have a beard, and I don't exercise.

So give me your money so I can continue my flagellant lifestyle.

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:02 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Basically: you were hot 30(?) years ago.

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Post by ERV » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:04 pm

rocko2466 wrote:HOLY SHIT. Ophie slut shames in comment 3 accusing the woman of being a "pouty poochy seductive type who lounges around with her hand in her hair posing for an ad for the local bordello."

BECAUSE SHE PUT HER HAND IN HER HAIR.

FFS.
Common, this is the same Nanny Benson who ranted about the slutty nude dog on a billboard. Im sure she also thinks the 'Cheese Nips' box is a whore.

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Post by Skep tickle » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:05 pm

[My area] Atheists board meeting today. Announcement was made about a skeptics meeting being held in the region (in another city) in a few months; one of the Board members commented that this conference "doesn't even have a harassment policy" and that she would never attend a conference that doesn't have a harassment policy; another (female) Board member agreed.

I didn't see any point to commenting, since they were airing personal views, not discussing Board business. Instead I spent the moment propping up my jaw so it didn't visibly head toward the floor. It's hard for me to understand their mindset. It seems like Ophelia-level paranoia.

Either that, or I was remiss in attending, in the past week, 2 conferences for work which had no harassment policies - and presumably was misguided in feeling safe while there. :roll:

(Hello, other [My Area] Atheists Board members, if you lurk here and recognize this vignette from today's meeting.)

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Post by Cunning Punt » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:08 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Your pic is mighty fine just as it is.

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Post by ReneeHendricks » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:09 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
LOL yeah, my hand was on my chest. I think I was covering my pacemaker scar (sort of a habit). Next time I'll shoot for more titties ;)

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Post by ReneeHendricks » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:10 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Basically: you were hot 30(?) years ago.
That military shot was 24 years ago. So, close :) I like to think I'm still kinda hot for a 46 year old :D

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Post by ReneeHendricks » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:11 pm

Cunning Punt wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Your pic is mighty fine just as it is.
Thanks :) It was a "cheeky behind the flowing hair" kinda look LOL

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Post by Pitchguest » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:12 pm

First of all, from this thread, http://www.freezepage.com/1360468357JOCHDEDEHS
She has red hair and she’s not a pouty poochy seductive type who lounges around with her hand in her hair posing for an ad for the local bordello.
Oh, the girl in the picture is a "pouty poochy seductive type" who's "posing for an ad for the local bordello"? Now who's the misogynist? Also, this,
Hmmmmmmmm

It’s not exactly “sexual behavior” though. She’s not engaging in sex. It’s more like “seductive behavior.” That is sexual, of course, but not straightforwardly – it’s a step back. Meta-sexual, as it were.

And it’s so un-Anne, and that’s why it’s so annoying.

For one thing it’s male fantasy of what female “sexual behavior” is – it’s a woman saying “come and ravish me, big boy” without saying it aloud. It’s beseeching and manipulative. Anne is a person who has her own interests, and who is the very opposite of manipulative. She’s an agent, not a seducer or a poser waiting around for someone to think she’s hawt.
Bolding mine. You need help, Ophelia. Get help.
Altair wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:On a totally unrelated note, what used to be my favourite webcomic, Sinfest, has now jumped the shark. For some reason, Tatsuya Ishida got totally enamored with feminist concepts like "The Patriarchy" and decided he would implement into the comic, which turned every character into a bland black and white caricature of their former selves.

(...)

I used to be a regular there, read it every day. I haven't checked it for several weeks now. I tuned in a couple of days ago and this is what I see,

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-02-07.gif
For people who have the radical idea that women are people, some feminists tend to think that women are unable to think by themselves and spend their days in a brainwashed automatic state.

I never read the comic before it jumped the shark, but it did help me realize Pharyngula had jumped the shark. I used to read it from time to time because of the articles about science and creationism, but I hadn't noticed what it had become until PZ posted the "Sisterhood part 7"

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4051 (the image is too big to embed)

That comic showed me the insane, paranoid and totally dogmatic nature of the "patriarchy" theory, and that's when I realized something was rotten in the state of skepticism.

Based on this comic, I would guess Tatsuya has received several opinions that mirror yours:

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-01-30.gif
Zest for life nothing. I would like for Tat to give back her fun personality, though, because right now she has no personality. None. It's like if you were to take, say, Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop and remove her greed and her sensuality simply because in some unevidenced crackpot theory it's demeaning to women. Fuck that! That's what made her character! But the thing is, she developed over time, and likewise with Monique (or 'Nique) - or so I thought. "The Sisterhood" arc truly fucked the comic over. That Matrix parody is proof of it. I realise fighting over the personality of a comic character might seem the epitomy of a first world problem, and it most likely is, but it's just not a fun read anymore. I don't post in the forum anymore, either. Ever since that arc began, it was overtaken by radfems long ago. One of them even praised and tried to make excuses for Andrea Dworkin. Lost cause.

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Post by ERV » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:15 pm

Darth Cynic wrote:... mostly for Nightwish...
I got to see Nightwish here in OKC. Because its OKC, where most people have no idea who Nightwish are, it was at a very small venue, so I got to spend the night five feet away from them, comfortably (not front-row arena my any means). Because Partner works security, we knew the head security guy working that night-- he was going to get us backstage, but they didnt stick around after the show. He did get us a signed poster, though.
:hankey:



Also, I love red heads. And blondes. And East Asian girls with freckles. Generally guys with dark hair, though. Exception to the rule. Summary: I like people, who have physical characteristics.

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Post by acathode » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:36 pm

rocko2466 wrote:FFS, Ophelia Benson is such a fucking hypocrite.

Here's an article where she and her commenters BAG ON A WOMAN BECAUSE OF HER APPEARANCE.
And what's more, saying she's NOT QUALIFIED FOR A JOB because of it.

http://www.freezepage.com/1360468357JOCHDEDEHS

I'm not parodying, here: I'm serious. You can't fucking harp on your gender feminist ideology one moment and then fucking drop it to bitch about an attractive woman being cast as Anne of Green Gables (and calling her Anne of Titty Gables because of it).

I've gotta say - it appears their feminism is for unattractive women. There seems to be a resentment of stereotypically attractive women here...

(Note: NateHevens even says "all pornstars are blonde". He obviously doesn't ever watch porn.)
Wait just a fucking second now. Twatson = misogynic because it reduces Watson down to her vagina, therefore objectifying her, Anne of Titty Gables = totes OK because... magic?! No, really, can someone explain how you manage this sort of cognitive dissonance without turning your mind into a Klein-bottle?
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acathode wrote: Bah, it was hilarious when it was done to A+, complaining about them doing basically the same thing would just stupid. Heck, who takes twitter seriously anyway? Only the creepy clowns, from what I've seen...
Is there any other kind of clown?
Was trying to reference to the creepy clowns in Mykeru's latest video. I was asking for a label for the collective of scam artists, numbnuts and raving lunatics that make up the dramamongers of "the other side" a while ago, SJW was suggested, and it useful, but "the Creepy Clowns" has a much better ring to it... and more fun variations, "the creepy clown posse", "the creepy clown car", etc :)

Also, wtf Pitchguest, you're also a Bebop fan?!

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Post by Pitchguest » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:38 pm

ReneeHendricks wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
LOL yeah, my hand was on my chest. I think I was covering my pacemaker scar (sort of a habit). Next time I'll shoot for more titties ;)
Can I just say that you and your hubby have way too much bad luck? Pacemaker at 46, and he has his lymphnodes and pieces of his tongue removed? Damn! (By the way, happy thoughts to the both of you!)

Also, what H2O said. :lol:

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Post by katamari Damassi » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:40 pm

Mykeru wrote:
Skeeve wrote:
justinvacula wrote:Reap culture gets my vote.

ditto
How many blogs does one man need?
I also vote Reap Culture. And your listeners would be serial reapists.

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Post by Pitchguest » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:40 pm

acathode wrote:Also, wtf Pitchguest, you're also a Bebop fan?!
Damn straight! :D

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Post by Pitchguest » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:45 pm

acathode wrote:
Altair wrote:Is there any other kind of clown?
Was trying to reference to the creepy clowns in Mykeru's latest video. I was asking for a label for the collective of scam artists, numbnuts and raving lunatics that make up the dramamongers of "the other side" a while ago, SJW was suggested, and it useful, but "the Creepy Clowns" has a much better ring to it... and more fun variations, "the creepy clown posse", "the creepy clown car", etc :)
Hehe

Fucking Mykeru, how does he work?

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:55 pm

ReneeHendricks wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Basically: you were hot 30(?) years ago.
That military shot was 24 years ago. So, close :) I like to think I'm still kinda hot for a 46 year old :D
I thought you might have been 18 in the photo. And I don't think this is the place for "oh, that was a lovely photo of you fifteen years ago. Ahahaha!".

Yeah, you'd still do. :oops: :clap:

(My first ever use of smilies, because Franc is hiding. Hope they were appropriate).

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Post by Lurkion » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:57 pm

Altair wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:On a totally unrelated note, what used to be my favourite webcomic, Sinfest, has now jumped the shark. For some reason, Tatsuya Ishida got totally enamored with feminist concepts like "The Patriarchy" and decided he would implement into the comic, which turned every character into a bland black and white caricature of their former selves.

(...)

I used to be a regular there, read it every day. I haven't checked it for several weeks now. I tuned in a couple of days ago and this is what I see,

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-02-07.gif
For people who have the radical idea that women are people, some feminists tend to think that women are unable to think by themselves and spend their days in a brainwashed automatic state.

I never read the comic before it jumped the shark, but it did help me realize Pharyngula had jumped the shark. I used to read it from time to time because of the articles about science and creationism, but I hadn't noticed what it had become until PZ posted the "Sisterhood part 7"

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4051 (the image is too big to embed)

That comic showed me the insane, paranoid and totally dogmatic nature of the "patriarchy" theory, and that's when I realized something was rotten in the state of skepticism.

Based on this comic, I would guess Tatsuya has received several opinions that mirror yours:

http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2013-01-30.gif
hahahaha STAY AWAY FROM OUR UTERUSES.

She yells, after approaching a guy who set up a fort and was sitting there alone.

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Post by Lurkion » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:58 pm

ReneeHendricks wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Basically: you were hot 30(?) years ago.
That military shot was 24 years ago. So, close :) I like to think I'm still kinda hot for a 46 year old :D
STOP OBJECTIFYING HER. You must say "cover your titties and personality". Only then can she be free.

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Post by masakari2012 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:36 pm

Ophelia was speaking about Anne of Green Gables, which appears to be a book that is going to me made into a film. And she's talking about particular characters and their intended roles by the writers. In this situation, I don't see much to criticize Ophelia on, unless I've read the books.

I do the same thing when reading A Song Of Ice And Fire. Characters are written showing and representing different characteristics from a medieval setting. Also, I get upset when a character, which is written with certain features, is then portrayed differently in a film. It's the reason why I was upset at some parts of Game Of Thrones season 2.

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Post by Skep tickle » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:36 pm

Hey, Renee! It looks in your photos like you have reddish hair. Perhaps you should play Anne of Green Gables - that would surely take care of Ophelia's current concern about AoGG's hair color in the film, right? (Oh, but you might have to suppress that "come hither" look you're beaming from behind your hair curtain - sorry.) :D

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#6749

Post by TheMan » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:48 pm

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Post by ShadowOfTheWickerman » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:59 pm

ReneeHendricks wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Renee, can you please use a proper camera to take photos of you touching your titties? And crop them properly, which means more titties, less face. Or post more of you in that military uniform. That was hot.
Basically: you were hot 30(?) years ago.
That military shot was 24 years ago. So, close :) I like to think I'm still kinda hot for a 46 year old :D
You're cuter than Ophelia Benson.

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