CommanderTuvok wrote:Does anybody have a photocap of that Ophelia Benson "stupidbitch" tweet? Or was it something mentioned by one of the parodies?
If she did say it, then I will expect Black Svan and the rest of the Tweeter wordwatch horde to quickly get on her case.
Hey, I'm the Tim round here.Lsuoma wrote: *I* am Clamps. Bada-climp! Bada-clamp!
You can be Tinny Tim.
Given their hyperactivity and paranoia over such werdz and termz, should Ophelia be allowed to get away with this? After all, they would not allow Dawkins an inch. Oh sorry, I forgot. Dawkins is male, old, white and part of the PATRIARCHEEEEEE.Apples wrote:CommanderTuvok wrote:Does anybody have a photocap of that Ophelia Benson "stupidbitch" tweet? Or was it something mentioned by one of the parodies?
If she did say it, then I will expect Black Svan and the rest of the Tweeter wordwatch horde to quickly get on her case.
It's rather muddled and hard to tell what she's trying to say - she uses #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM in a conversation with Aratina Sewer about Mykeru's video with her face on the freeze-frame at AVfM.
As far as governing politics, then I agree, the ideas they promote can be super leftist at times. However, taking politics out of it, and instead looking at how they would govern the atheist community, it isn't about equality at all. It's about creating a new hierarchy where they get to call the shots. It's about creating insiders and outsiders and finding enemies everywhere. I'm a liberal so my portrait of the right wing probably isn't charitable, but I don't mean it to be an insult. I would consider values of your family and community to be right wing values. Who values their community and keeps more people out of it than the A+ people? No wonder they seem to be dying off - they don't let anyone new in.Git wrote:
I would quibble with this, because it is bloody obvious that the A+ers are to the left of the atheist movement. The whole concept of privilege? It comes from the Academic Left. The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism. Pope Peezus is quite clear that he wants the US Atheist movement to be a wholly far-left/progressive movement. A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism. Speech codes? Again, an invention of the left. The A+ers are effectively a SWP-esque cult hellbent on entryism into the US Atheist movement. Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!"). Their love of socialism isn't exactly a rightist thing either.
Although their authoritarianism is a hallmark of well, authoritarianism, which is a feature of all places on the political spectrum.
So for once in her life, Ophelia may be saying something accurate when she was calling herself a "stupidbitch".Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
*I* am Clamps. Bada-climp! Bada-clamp!Lsuoma wrote:Gumby wrote:I wanna be Clamps!ReneeHendricks wrote:Hey all - you know that pic of the robot gangsters from Futurama that was posted not too long ago? Someone said I was the "leader" robot. Did we point out who the other 2 were? Having a convo about this (who's the leader of non-FTB/A+/Skepchick group - Abbie was mentioned).
Is it time for the clamps, boss? Huh? Should I use the clamps?
Ah, who am I kidding. I don't have the forums status here to be one of the Pit Robot Mafia.
I thought that he was a twat.jimthepleb wrote:'cept cunt, who's a dick.welch wrote:We're all silly cunts.Tony Parsehole wrote:I have no hope of catching up on the latest goings on do I?
There, done.
Fair enough. I wouldn't exactly call them "right-wing" though. "Reactionary" perhaps might be a better term?EdwardGemmer wrote:As far as governing politics, then I agree, the ideas they promote can be super leftist at times. However, taking politics out of it, and instead looking at how they would govern the atheist community, it isn't about equality at all. It's about creating a new hierarchy where they get to call the shots. It's about creating insiders and outsiders and finding enemies everywhere. I'm a liberal so my portrait of the right wing probably isn't charitable, but I don't mean it to be an insult. I would consider values of your family and community to be right wing values. Who values their community and keeps more people out of it than the A+ people? No wonder they seem to be dying off - they don't let anyone new in.Git wrote:
I would quibble with this, because it is bloody obvious that the A+ers are to the left of the atheist movement. The whole concept of privilege? It comes from the Academic Left. The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism. Pope Peezus is quite clear that he wants the US Atheist movement to be a wholly far-left/progressive movement. A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism. Speech codes? Again, an invention of the left. The A+ers are effectively a SWP-esque cult hellbent on entryism into the US Atheist movement. Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!"). Their love of socialism isn't exactly a rightist thing either.
Although their authoritarianism is a hallmark of well, authoritarianism, which is a feature of all places on the political spectrum.
No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
Bugger that. I think you need to take a week to think on your error.Apples wrote:No worries. :)incognito wrote:You're right, and my apologies. I totally just flat-out misread that. :oops:Apples wrote:I'm confused - your link takes us to a passage in the book On the Pathology and Treatment of Hysteria. The passage highlighted in your link appears to be discussing hysteria, and a search for histrionic in that book only shows one result, on page 8, discussing "professors of the histrionic art" (apparently referring to theatre).incognito wrote:
Nope, it's histrionic. You can search for the word on the right to see it in context and everything.
I joined to talk about A+, because I think it is stupid and in fact genuinely harmful to some people. I thought that side of it needed to have more attention drawn to it.Lsuoma wrote:Actually, what Cephus fails to realize is that the lulz are actually secondary, though mighty welcome. Pointing out the hypocrisy is job #1.justinvacula wrote:Cephus from Bitchspot apparently doesn't like many posters here and seems to see the Slymepit as "just as bad" as PZ, Ophelia, Watson, and co.
http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/2 ... ree-sides/
Yet it’s not just the radfem nutballs that have issues, there are tons of people on our own side that are just as bad. It’s getting hard to decide which group is worse and that’s the problem, they’re all idiots! Let me spell it out for them because some of them are slow. If a person is on Twitter and they’re following PZ Myers, Ophelia Benson, Greta Christina, Adam Lee, Stephanie Zvan, Greg Laden, Ed Brayton, Rebecca Watson, Melody Hensley, Lousy Canuck or a host of other dyed-in-the-wool-Atheism+ers, just to see if they can find something to post on the Slymepit and laugh about, or just so they can stick it on Elevatorgate, they’re a fucking asshole. They’re a troll. They’re a sleazeball and deserve no more respect than any of the asshats I mentioned them following.
On second thought, Kiwi is right - why don't you take a week off and review marinerachel's posting history.KiwiInOz wrote:Bugger that. I think you need to take a week to think on your error.Apples wrote:No worries. :)incognito wrote:You're right, and my apologies. I totally just flat-out misread that. :oops:Apples wrote:I'm confused - your link takes us to a passage in the book On the Pathology and Treatment of Hysteria. The passage highlighted in your link appears to be discussing hysteria, and a search for histrionic in that book only shows one result, on page 8, discussing "professors of the histrionic art" (apparently referring to theatre).incognito wrote:
Nope, it's histrionic. You can search for the word on the right to see it in context and everything.
Mod. Mod? Clean up in aisle 5.
I did read it that way myself Renee. I would also say that is the generous reading of it, which is the decent one to assume (even if other folks don't extend you the same courtesy).ReneeHendricks wrote:No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
You mean this Jafafa Hots?katamari Damassi wrote:We got a mention in the comments section of Zinnia Jones' blog over at FfTB. She's taking credit for outing an ex-gay charlatan named Michael Moore who was caught on the gay hook-up site Grindr. Apparently some in the commentariat there believe that the pitters would disapprove of such an outing, and caution Zinnia to be careful because as GreatAmericanSatan says: "Slymepitters and Jebus creeps are combing places like this for ways to condemn us. Let’s not give them anything too juicy to nosh on if we can help it."
To which Jafafa Hots replies: "At any rate, it’s really not worth worrying about how slymepitters etc. will twist what we say, or attribute what others have said to us, or attribute what they have said as “sympathetic†sockpuppets to us. They’ll just make things up as usual anyway."
Does anyone here care that a ex-gay hypocrite was outed?
didn't she say she NEVER uses that word anyway...a self deprecating lie is still a lie.ReneeHendricks wrote:No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
Hear. Hear.Corylus wrote:Huh? I don't begrudge anyone the odd cookie. In fact, I have been known to bake them for my friends. I even generally manage to not have 'eated dem all' when they come round for tea and a chat.
I do, however, insist on calling them biscuits. Because they are:-
Biscuits.
It's extremely hard to read that tweet that way. The only thing that gives me pause is that if she doesn't know who GWW is, she wouldn't know she's a woman and probably wouldn't use the word bitch.ReneeHendricks wrote:No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
Except she says "#nowondersheisonAVFM". I think she at least knew GWW is a female. Yeah. I'm not buying that Ophie called herself a bitch.Altair wrote:It's extremely hard to read that tweet that way. The only thing that gives me pause is that if she doesn't know who GWW is, she wouldn't know she's a woman and probably wouldn't use the word bitch.ReneeHendricks wrote:No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
Either Ophelia is calling herself a stupid bitch, or she really knows who GWW is. It's hard to tell what's going on sometimes.
Natalie Reed???? The bar has indeed been lowered.Tigzy wrote::lol: You had to go there, didn't you. Still, I can top that. Few nights ago I had a wank while thinking about Natalie Reed.Tony Parsehole wrote:Fap, fap, fap.bhoytony wrote:I draw the line at being hosed down with turds and tampons.
And there I was, a few posts ago, of accusing someone else of being a Billy-No-Life...
Hehee, no problem, I'm trying to work while I reply, it's not easy either :lol:ReneeHendricks wrote:Wait, sorry - that's what you said Altair LOL That's what I get for watching a show while trying to reply :D
ReneeHendricks wrote:No fucking way that tweet was meant to be interpreted as Ophie calling herself a bitch. Please.Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Ophie: Did which? (And I don't know who GWW is! #stupidbitch #nowondersheisonAVFM)
:lol: Shit - yeah, that one would have been a prime contender. Guess Bowie must have been going through a desperate phase, because she was nuts and smelled of horses.Tony Parsehole wrote: Nice "lame-claim-to-fame" with the Bowie Girlfriend though!
Actually, what we have seen is they reserve their extra-special mean girl wrath for women who don't join their clique.CommanderTuvok wrote:I think I found it.
http://i.imgur.com/ZdXCEpB.jpg
Interestingly, it is dated from the 7th Feb, and she appears to be calling agender traitorwoman a "stupidbitch" for writing for AVFM. Gee, they really get theirknickersundergarments in a twist over AVFM, don't they!
It's a nice corner they've painted themselves into. Soon they will be communicating with facial expressions and smoke signals.Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
I like the first line of the OP there...Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
...though probably not in the way Exi5tentialist might have imagined. :lol:The word 'homosexuality' was used in the Forum today. It's become an issue for me, because for over 30 years I've been trying to indoctrinate parents, relatives, friends, colleagues into using alternatives like 'gay sexuality' (one syllable less!!!).
If I had the patience I'd become a member of the asylum over there and see how many words I could get banned. I'm pretty sure if you went about it the right way they would ban just about anything no matter how ridiculous it was.Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
Conlon never came back to the pit after he was chewed out here for being stupid enough to make what could be interpreted as a threat.Dick Strawkins wrote:You mean this Jafafa Hots?katamari Damassi wrote:We got a mention in the comments section of Zinnia Jones' blog over at FfTB. She's taking credit for outing an ex-gay charlatan named Michael Moore who was caught on the gay hook-up site Grindr. Apparently some in the commentariat there believe that the pitters would disapprove of such an outing, and caution Zinnia to be careful because as GreatAmericanSatan says: "Slymepitters and Jebus creeps are combing places like this for ways to condemn us. Let’s not give them anything too juicy to nosh on if we can help it."
To which Jafafa Hots replies: "At any rate, it’s really not worth worrying about how slymepitters etc. will twist what we say, or attribute what others have said to us, or attribute what they have said as “sympathetic†sockpuppets to us. They’ll just make things up as usual anyway."
Does anyone here care that a ex-gay hypocrite was outed?
(She is posting on B&W about some supposed celebratory post by Jerry Conlon on the Slymepit after his acid tweet to Ophelia - yes, I know, completely pulled out of her ass)
http://i.imgur.com/UJhdUdc.jpg
Of course it's us who just makes stuff up :roll:
welch wrote:and anyone fucking cares...why?justinvacula wrote:Cephus from Bitchspot apparently doesn't like many posters here and seems to see the Slymepit as "just as bad" as PZ, Ophelia, Watson, and co.
http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/2 ... ree-sides/
Yet it’s not just the radfem nutballs that have issues, there are tons of people on our own side that are just as bad. It’s getting hard to decide which group is worse and that’s the problem, they’re all idiots! Let me spell it out for them because some of them are slow. If a person is on Twitter and they’re following PZ Myers, Ophelia Benson, Greta Christina, Adam Lee, Stephanie Zvan, Greg Laden, Ed Brayton, Rebecca Watson, Melody Hensley, Lousy Canuck or a host of other dyed-in-the-wool-Atheism+ers, just to see if they can find something to post on the Slymepit and laugh about, or just so they can stick it on Elevatorgate, they’re a fucking asshole. They’re a troll. They’re a sleazeball and deserve no more respect than any of the asshats I mentioned them following.
I would quibble with your quibble. With some minor changes in the terms used your statement descibes right wing thinking to a "T". for example, change "privilege" to "entitlement" and you have one of the right's favorite boogeymen. "The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism." That's also a hallmark of US conservitism. "A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism." Classic Christian Dominionism too. "Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!")." How about shouting "socialist" and "liberal" at your opponents?Git wrote:I would quibble with this, because it is bloody obvious that the A+ers are to the left of the atheist movement. The whole concept of privilege? It comes from the Academic Left. The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism. Pope Peezus is quite clear that he wants the US Atheist movement to be a wholly far-left/progressive movement. A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism. Speech codes? Again, an invention of the left. The A+ers are effectively a SWP-esque cult hellbent on entryism into the US Atheist movement. Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!"). Their love of socialism isn't exactly a rightist thing either.EdwardGemmer wrote:I'm very liberal and I consider the A+ gang to be the right wing of the atheist movement. Right wingers typically are more comfortable with inequality in the system, and who could be happier with inequalities than these folks? They tend to dismiss huge portions of the population as evil, idiotic, racist, sexist, etc., etc., etc. and summarily dismiss them. They literally can't handle criticism, nor are outsiders welcome. Their arguments tend to be based on emotion and "not upsetting" the established order is very, very important to them.incognito wrote:In the US, since rather a lot of atheists tenn to be either "far left" (European equivalent of a "Social Democrat") or "far right" (objectivist/libertarian leaning) I guess it makes sense that half of the atheists/irreligious find rather a lot of other atheists/irreligious annoying?
Promoting diversity and equality is an extremely important goal of liberalism. It is probably the most important goal of liberalism. Can anyone say without laughing that Atheism Plus promotes this goal. While they say lots of good things (we promote feminism!, we promote minorities!), in practice they exclude far, far more people than they help, and they are proud of that fact. There is nothing liberal about that.
Although their authoritarianism is a hallmark of well, authoritarianism, which is a feature of all places on the political spectrum.
You have to be careful with that. Legal ownership ignores unregistered trusts or those implied by marriage or relationships. So although the trend may have some use the absolute figures will be very misleading.Corylus wrote:Sorry, missed that one. Yes, for example, the Married Women's Property Act was waaay back in 1870! Resistance to women having individual bank accounts and mortgages a more recent memory though.Submariner wrote:Not sure what you're getting at here. Women can't own property? I thought that was changed at least several decades ago.Corylus wrote:Submariner
Then I must disagree, not least because one of the more objective ways of studying power differentials is by looking at property ownership. Not always correlated to class, I admit, but it is one of those things that run alongside quite consistently.IMHO feminism only sees two classes: men and everyone else.
These days we need to look at trends rather than absolutes.
Nope. Just that old parallel logic. It would be hypocrisy if anyone else did it, though.free thoughtpolice wrote:Conlon never came back to the pit after he was chewed out here for being stupid enough to make what could be interpreted as a threat.Dick Strawkins wrote:You mean this Jafafa Hots?katamari Damassi wrote:We got a mention in the comments section of Zinnia Jones' blog over at FfTB. She's taking credit for outing an ex-gay charlatan named Michael Moore who was caught on the gay hook-up site Grindr. Apparently some in the commentariat there believe that the pitters would disapprove of such an outing, and caution Zinnia to be careful because as GreatAmericanSatan says: "Slymepitters and Jebus creeps are combing places like this for ways to condemn us. Let’s not give them anything too juicy to nosh on if we can help it."
To which Jafafa Hots replies: "At any rate, it’s really not worth worrying about how slymepitters etc. will twist what we say, or attribute what others have said to us, or attribute what they have said as “sympathetic†sockpuppets to us. They’ll just make things up as usual anyway."
Does anyone here care that a ex-gay hypocrite was outed?
(She is posting on B&W about some supposed celebratory post by Jerry Conlon on the Slymepit after his acid tweet to Ophelia - yes, I know, completely pulled out of her ass)
http://i.imgur.com/UJhdUdc.jpg
Of course it's us who just makes stuff up :roll:
Tethys however a heroine back at Pharyngula for threatening me with broken bottles and I was the one who was banned. That wouldn't be hypocrisy would it?
Some choice excerpts:Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
Are you a Chomsky and/or BlackAgendaReport fan? (I very much am, btw...and I agree with a lot of what you're saying, too, and am just wondering if we share similar tastes in reading material, as well.)EdwardGemmer wrote:As far as governing politics, then I agree, the ideas they promote can be super leftist at times. However, taking politics out of it, and instead looking at how they would govern the atheist community, it isn't about equality at all. It's about creating a new hierarchy where they get to call the shots. It's about creating insiders and outsiders and finding enemies everywhere. I'm a liberal so my portrait of the right wing probably isn't charitable, but I don't mean it to be an insult. I would consider values of your family and community to be right wing values. Who values their community and keeps more people out of it than the A+ people? No wonder they seem to be dying off - they don't let anyone new in.Git wrote:
I would quibble with this, because it is bloody obvious that the A+ers are to the left of the atheist movement. The whole concept of privilege? It comes from the Academic Left. The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism. Pope Peezus is quite clear that he wants the US Atheist movement to be a wholly far-left/progressive movement. A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism. Speech codes? Again, an invention of the left. The A+ers are effectively a SWP-esque cult hellbent on entryism into the US Atheist movement. Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!"). Their love of socialism isn't exactly a rightist thing either.
Although their authoritarianism is a hallmark of well, authoritarianism, which is a feature of all places on the political spectrum.
Looks like they're going to start going back over old posts and demand apologies from people who dared to use the H-bomb:Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
have you reported the posts that used that word? I'd hope that anyone asked to stop using would do so with an apology.
Smoke signals are a racist stereotype againt Native Americans.Tony Parsehole wrote:It's a nice corner they've painted themselves into. Soon they will be communicating with facial expressions and smoke signals.Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
I'm primarily here for the lulz, but that's usually predicated on the exposed hypocrisy, I guess.Lsuoma wrote:Actually, what Cephus fails to realize is that the lulz are actually secondary, though mighty welcome. Pointing out the hypocrisy is job #1.justinvacula wrote:Cephus from Bitchspot apparently doesn't like many posters here and seems to see the Slymepit as "just as bad" as PZ, Ophelia, Watson, and co.
http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/2 ... ree-sides/
Yet it’s not just the radfem nutballs that have issues, there are tons of people on our own side that are just as bad. It’s getting hard to decide which group is worse and that’s the problem, they’re all idiots! Let me spell it out for them because some of them are slow. If a person is on Twitter and they’re following PZ Myers, Ophelia Benson, Greta Christina, Adam Lee, Stephanie Zvan, Greg Laden, Ed Brayton, Rebecca Watson, Melody Hensley, Lousy Canuck or a host of other dyed-in-the-wool-Atheism+ers, just to see if they can find something to post on the Slymepit and laugh about, or just so they can stick it on Elevatorgate, they’re a fucking asshole. They’re a troll. They’re a sleazeball and deserve no more respect than any of the asshats I mentioned them following.
“The Bear and the Maiden Fairfree thoughtpolice wrote:Conlon never came back to the pit after he was chewed out here for being stupid enough to make what could be interpreted as a threat.
Tethys however a heroine back at Pharyngula for threatening me with broken bottles and I was the one who was banned. That wouldn't be hypocrisy would it?
Heh! Ophelia's backpeddling modus operandi. "You misunderstood! I was joking!"Apples wrote:.... and then says she was referring to herself as a stupid bitch for not knowing that it was there? Or something.
9:05a: "Oh ffs - you misread. I meant *I* was the stupidbitch. for not knowing, no wonder *I* was on AVFM."
Apples wrote:“The Bear and the Maiden Fairfree thoughtpolice wrote:Conlon never came back to the pit after he was chewed out here for being stupid enough to make what could be interpreted as a threat.
Tethys however a heroine back at Pharyngula for threatening me with broken bottles and I was the one who was banned. That wouldn't be hypocrisy would it?
A bear there was, a bear, a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair!
The bear! The bear!
Oh, come, they said, oh come to the fair!
The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!
All black, and brown, and covered with hair!
And Down the road from here to there.
From here! To There!
Three boys, a goat, and a dancing bear!
[He] danced and spun, all the way to the Fair!
The Fair! The Fair!
Oh, sweet she was, and pure, and fair!
The maid with honey in her hair!
Her hair! Her hair!
The maid with honey in her hair!
[The bear,] smelled the scent on the summer air.
The bear! The bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair.
He smelled the scent on the summer air!
He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!
Honey on the summer air!
Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
A bear! A bear!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
He lifted her high into the air!
The bear! The bear!
I called for a knight, but you're a bear!
A bear! A bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair!
She kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,
But he licked the honey from her hair,
Her hair! Her hair!
Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!
My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!
And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair.
― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
* incognito crawls off to the cold, stone, frozen isolation chamber in Siberia to contemplate the follies of admitting to being wrong when elaborate games of chasing down questionable sources to prove Original Point would have been better for The Cause*Apples wrote:On second thought, Kiwi is right - why don't you take a week off and review marinerachel's posting history.KiwiInOz wrote:Bugger that. I think you need to take a week to think on your error.Apples wrote:No worries. :)incognito wrote:
You're right, and my apologies. I totally just flat-out misread that. :oops:
Mod. Mod? Clean up in aisle 5.
Ha. I was just reading that.Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
Now you've made me feel bad that I have proper spelling privilege!TheMudbrooker wrote:Smoke signals are a racist stereotype againt Native Americans.Tony Parsehole wrote:It's a nice corner they've painted themselves into. Soon they will be communicating with facial expressions and smoke signals.Apples wrote:Looks like the word "homosexual" is about to be banned at A+ for being "homophobic in all contexts."
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3932
Is this the reason why the AVfM site is showing up oddly (like a mobile site)?Al Stefanelli wrote:Men's rights activists: Symantec branded us a 'hate group.' 'A Voice for men' muzzled
Sorry, it's the mobile site.
All of the Enlightened (all 20 of them?) know that you're a bigot if you don't call it GLBTphobic and nothing else.ReneeHendricks wrote:I'm going to start saying using the word "homophobic" is bad too. Oh, and "homo sapien".
As I'm not a US conservative, I'd probably quibble only slightly with your quibble to my quibble. What is totally spot on, and I agree with thoroughly is "if you go far enough to either end of the ideological spectrum, you'll meet yourself coming the other way". That is spot-on.TheMudbrooker wrote:I would quibble with your quibble. With some minor changes in the terms used your statement descibes right wing thinking to a "T". for example, change "privilege" to "entitlement" and you have one of the right's favorite boogeymen. "The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism." That's also a hallmark of US conservitism. "A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism." Classic Christian Dominionism too. "Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!")." How about shouting "socialist" and "liberal" at your opponents?Git wrote:I would quibble with this, because it is bloody obvious that the A+ers are to the left of the atheist movement. The whole concept of privilege? It comes from the Academic Left. The zeal for ideological purity? A hallmark of US progressivism. Pope Peezus is quite clear that he wants the US Atheist movement to be a wholly far-left/progressive movement. A fetish for identity politics and collectivism and utopianism? Classic leftist entryism. Speech codes? Again, an invention of the left. The A+ers are effectively a SWP-esque cult hellbent on entryism into the US Atheist movement. Shouting "bigot" and "MRA" at anyone they disagree with - a habit of liberalism (only replacing shouts of "racist!"). Their love of socialism isn't exactly a rightist thing either.EdwardGemmer wrote:I'm very liberal and I consider the A+ gang to be the right wing of the atheist movement. Right wingers typically are more comfortable with inequality in the system, and who could be happier with inequalities than these folks? They tend to dismiss huge portions of the population as evil, idiotic, racist, sexist, etc., etc., etc. and summarily dismiss them. They literally can't handle criticism, nor are outsiders welcome. Their arguments tend to be based on emotion and "not upsetting" the established order is very, very important to them.incognito wrote:In the US, since rather a lot of atheists tenn to be either "far left" (European equivalent of a "Social Democrat") or "far right" (objectivist/libertarian leaning) I guess it makes sense that half of the atheists/irreligious find rather a lot of other atheists/irreligious annoying?
Promoting diversity and equality is an extremely important goal of liberalism. It is probably the most important goal of liberalism. Can anyone say without laughing that Atheism Plus promotes this goal. While they say lots of good things (we promote feminism!, we promote minorities!), in practice they exclude far, far more people than they help, and they are proud of that fact. There is nothing liberal about that.
Although their authoritarianism is a hallmark of well, authoritarianism, which is a feature of all places on the political spectrum.
The way I see it, if you go far enough to either end of the ideological spectrum, you'll meet yourself coming the other way.
:lol:Dick Strawkins wrote:Has anyone posted about Ophelia's latest triumph?
She's put a paypal button on her page, just to piss us off.
:lol:
http://www.freezepage.com/1360618528IUYBVRMVDK
This is the perfect way to spite the harassers. They will be so disgusted their nostrils will ache, and I will treat myself to a package of Pepperidge Farm orange Milano cookies on sale this week at Safeway for ONLY TWO DOLLARS.
Also appears have genuine memory-problems.jjbinx007 wrote:Ophie, you are a vile lying amoral shitbag.
Whilst I think this quote is the raving of a lunatic, it isn't an entirely unrealistic idea. For example, the words 'retard' and 'spastic' are rarely used, even in medical contexts, today due to the extreme negative connotations that have grown around those scientific terms.To be honest, though, if I can't be against a word in only some contexts. And it really isn't about grammatical correctness of the -homo prefix. It's about the baggage. It's about whether you think good science can be done despite dropping a word. I don't see the problem with them doing that.
That's a lovely little toe-tapper. Catchy tune.Metalogic42 wrote:Grindcore. :lol:comslave wrote:What language is that in?Metalogic42 wrote:If we're going to have an anthem, it has to be this:
[youtube]8sjkqJbENjg[/youtube]
WAIT! No! Haven't either of you learnt anything?! One of you is now supposed to block the other and accuse them of something!Apples wrote:No worries. :)incognito wrote:You're right, and my apologies. I totally just flat-out misread that. :oops:Apples wrote:I'm confused - your link takes us to a passage in the book On the Pathology and Treatment of Hysteria. The passage highlighted in your link appears to be discussing hysteria, and a search for histrionic in that book only shows one result, on page 8, discussing "professors of the histrionic art" (apparently referring to theatre).incognito wrote:
Nope, it's histrionic. You can search for the word on the right to see it in context and everything.
