Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[karlaporter]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

Who gets to participate in public discourse or a private club? Doesn't sound very egalitarian or democratic.

[Submariner]

Pardon me, should read "OB drops...."

[ReneeHendricks]

I have an ex girlfriend who worked in a porn shop. One of the staff "duties" was to review DVDs returned as "damaged". It was a common kind of fraud, to get out of paying rental fees.

Until then, while I might have had an idea that "granny porn" existed, I most certainly did not know it was *popular*. After awhile, i learned that if she came home from work with a brand new bottle of vodka, no one wanted to go into the spare room. She still only shudders when you say "granny porn". Ew.

I had no idea that even exists.

Having worked in a porn shop more than a few years ago, yep, it exists. There are quite a few niches that your average person is probably blissfully unaware :)

[Ericb]

I have an ex girlfriend who worked in a porn shop. One of the staff "duties" was to review DVDs returned as "damaged". It was a common kind of fraud, to get out of paying rental fees.

Until then, while I might have had an idea that "granny porn" existed, I most certainly did not know it was *popular*. After awhile, i learned that if she came home from work with a brand new bottle of vodka, no one wanted to go into the spare room. She still only shudders when you say "granny porn". Ew.

I had no idea that even exists.

Having worked in a porn shop more than a few years ago, yep, it exists. There are quite a few niches that your average person is probably blissfully unaware :)

This week I learned that there is a big My Pretty Pony porn sub culture among the bronies.

[LMU]

What I don't see is many pitters admitting that their own perception of FTB vs the reality might also be askew.

I don't think it can be emphasized enough that civil attempts at discussion have been made MANY MANY times, and are STILL being attempted (Justin Vacula being one example). It might surprise you but many of the people here were driven here after engaging in good faith at FTB or elsewhere. For example just recently mentioned: debaser71, KiwiInOz, anotherlurker. If you look at many people's introductory posts here you will see many similar stories, I have one for example. We didn't go to in expecting people on that "side" to behave badly, but they did. Reality brought us here, not denial of it.

Perhaps it will be interesting for you to know that there are some people who mostly or completely left the Slymepit because they didn't like vulgarity (note: that is probably oversimplifying their positions, I don't mean to misrepresent them, I'm just trying to be brief). For example there are Damion and Notung who used to post here more but now mostly do not. Why are you not engaging with them, but are engaging with us here? Did you even know about them? I imagine that a significant reason why JV's recent interactions with Michael Nugent are getting so much intention is precisely *because* JV engages at the Slymepit.

So here's an important question: How are you supposed to engage with someone who attempts to silence, defame, and ignore you?

[karlaporter]

I have an ex girlfriend who worked in a porn shop. One of the staff "duties" was to review DVDs returned as "damaged". It was a common kind of fraud, to get out of paying rental fees.

Until then, while I might have had an idea that "granny porn" existed, I most certainly did not know it was *popular*. After awhile, i learned that if she came home from work with a brand new bottle of vodka, no one wanted to go into the spare room. She still only shudders when you say "granny porn". Ew.

I had no idea that even exists.

Having worked in a porn shop more than a few years ago, yep, it exists. There are quite a few niches that your average person is probably blissfully unaware :)

I stay blissful watching Antenna TV.

[welch]

I have an ex girlfriend who worked in a porn shop. One of the staff "duties" was to review DVDs returned as "damaged". It was a common kind of fraud, to get out of paying rental fees.

Until then, while I might have had an idea that "granny porn" existed, I most certainly did not know it was *popular*. After awhile, i learned that if she came home from work with a brand new bottle of vodka, no one wanted to go into the spare room. She still only shudders when you say "granny porn". Ew.

I had no idea that even exists.

I'd say have a chat with people who work in porn stores, but you might still have some hope for humanity.

Talking to people who rent porn to the general public will destroy that.

[LMU]

Relevant as always...

youtube X51zxgoPo2o /youtube

Should be required viewing.

She's got a bunch of interesting videos - I've subbed. Thanks for pointing her out!

Part of what's amusing about that is that she's an MRA, so presumably the people arguing against her position (and using gendered slurs and rape threats) are feminists. When is feminism going to acknowledge and deal with the misogyny in its community? ;)

[ReneeHendricks]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

[karlaporter]

I have an ex girlfriend who worked in a porn shop. One of the staff "duties" was to review DVDs returned as "damaged". It was a common kind of fraud, to get out of paying rental fees.

Until then, while I might have had an idea that "granny porn" existed, I most certainly did not know it was *popular*. After awhile, i learned that if she came home from work with a brand new bottle of vodka, no one wanted to go into the spare room. She still only shudders when you say "granny porn". Ew.

I had no idea that even exists.

I'd say have a chat with people who work in porn stores, but you might still have some hope for humanity.

Talking to people who rent porn to the general public will destroy that.

Sometimes I wonder about alternative lifestyles and careers. The choices people make are very interesting to me (assuming they are actually choices).

[tina]

Ophie drops this at Nugget's :

Fabulous. Thank you all so much.

(post 95)
Not even sure what this means....

Q cashing in of 2k victim credits in 3...2....1

[LMU]

It strikes me that Nugent genuinely has the impression that "porn photoshops" and the like are actually common here (I believe there have been two, total? Whatever). Regardless, he's engaging in a quixotic quest. Even if every bit of coarse language and off-color humor were to disappear, what then? Would calling Ophie out for being dishonest and mediocre then become a focus for reform? Would he ask us to give PZ or Rebecca Watson a pass every time they say something stupid or hypocritical? At that point, it would only become more obvious that this is a battle of ideas, values, and priorities. He's a silly man who is doomed to lose this fight either way.

I get the impression Nugents reads but he does not understand when he comes here. Maybe he is just too busy for it all.

I actually expect that there are one or more people who browse the 'pit and then just email links to others, like OB and MN, saying "Look what they've done here!"

[Metalogic42]

Ophie drops this at Nugget's :

Fabulous. Thank you all so much.

(post 95)
Not even sure what this means....

"Thank you all so much...for the victim cred."

[Karmakin]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

One thing that's pretty clear to me is that the context of a lot of those quotes are EXACTLY because "someone big" is watching. I.E. you get the people who are just watching to wait for something awful and terrible so people exaggerate what they're saying in order to rile those people up and piss them off. Not something I like to think is helpful and constructive...I'm a bit of an idealist...

But I have no doubt that it IS constructive. It bashes down the doors and forces conversations and discussion about the things that the baboons don't want to talk about, namely the bigoted, privileged and authoritarian/hierarchical ideas and concepts that they're promoting.

It WORKS. It's really clear that it works. Again, not something that makes me happy on a personal level, but it is what it is. It gets people's attention.

Note that Nugent is doing everything in his power to avoid opening that door and starting that aspect of the conversation, even though it's ESSENTIAL to understanding what is going on. He has the complete ability to defuse a large part of the situation, again, by taking a fair and unbiased look at the bigot brigade and to see what the fuck they're actually doing, but he's closing his eyes and putting his fingers in his ears and going "PIT PIT PIT". Yeah.

[Dick Strawkins]

Noblehawk2's blog?
http://noblehawk2.blogspot.se/2013/02/t ... -blog.html

I think it looks like it may be the same guy - at least from the logo.

Oolon may be in the clear - but have a granny-porn lover on his doorstep!

[Lsuoma]

And Jesus Crispys on a Sticky Lollipop, but Eucliwood is over there complaining about being banned from here.

Yeah, she's still delivering the crazy wherever she thinks I might see it - more emails yesterday.

On the(reasonable) assumption she's reading this as a guest - Eucliwoo, you're not coming back here, no way, no how.

[Lsuoma]

fuck, yeah! I forgot "from a colonial territory".


:D

I'm feeling your powah, beeatch!!!!

[tina]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

Who gets to participate in public discourse or a private club? Doesn't sound very egalitarian or democratic.

Svans 'movements' will just morph into radfem activism. Actual skeptics will move elsewhere.

[ERV]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

Sally, fat jokes are never funny :naughty:

[Lurkion]

Slymepitter (words to the effect of): Fuck. These gender feminists are ruining the atheist / skeptic community / movement. I can't believe that dishonest bitch would deliberately misstate rape statistics and accuse all men of being potential rapists. I tried to politely raise the correct statistics and my interpretation with him/her on his/her blog and s/he blocked me and called me a misogynist and an asshole in the comment thread. I mentioned the interaction on Twitter and s/he called me a harasser and said it was part of a campaign of harassment from MRAs. I don't know what s/he's talking about. S/he's fucking crazy.

Nugent: That's terrible. That you would use that language. Settle down. We should talk about how plainly harmful that language of yours is. Do you know any swear word offends all women, except when we use it? You should really be more sensitive to these things?

Slymepitter: What the fuck? Did you read what I said? What the fuck is going on?

Nugent: Why do you consider it is morally justified to swear?

Slymepitter: What? Swearing's not immoral. What are you talking about?

Nugent: Okay. But how is it morally justified to swear but you still don't want to see a photoshopped image of a female blogger's head on a nude woman's body on your forum? They are obviously for all reasonable purposes equivalent.

Slymepitter: Wait. Why aren't we talking about the hostile and non-skeptical behaviour of purported leaders in the community, including in creating an in-group of dogmatic ideologues?

Nugent: No. Together we need to move past the swearing. How do you justify it? Pick 25 posts from the Slymepit that you disagree with and why they are horrendous and why you consider it was appropriate for censorship to have occurred.

Slymepitter: Can I explain why we have an issue with the gender feminists? You might see then why we would swear in a social situation.

Nugent: No. Swearing is always inappropriate except with reference to religious people. Please do not talk about those issues and focus instead on your swearing and how you will repent.

Slymepitter: Oh. Fuck this then.

Nugent: Just as I feared. The Slymepitters are incapable of being reasoned with. I have determined change is unable to occur. Please give me an award when I have all my besties over in Ireland. As can be expected, we're taking the slideshow from a nearby church's sermon on sex and swearing and just deleting the words 'God'. It will be fun times. All the alcohol Rebecca can drink too (assuming she doesn't stay up to 4am). Also the elevators are broken (phew!).

[Lsuoma]

fuck, yeah! I forgot "from a colonial territory".


:D

Forgot to ask - can I feel yer tits, too?

[Lurkion]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

Who gets to participate in public discourse or a private club? Doesn't sound very egalitarian or democratic.

Svans 'movements' will just morph into radfem activism. Actual skeptics will move elsewhere.

Wait. 'Movements'? I don't mean to be the next pitter to make a crude comment, but my Mrs' mum talks about movements all the time with reference to products that increase the frequency of those movements. Just saying. It was probably what Zvan intended given what she has in mind for us!

[Lsuoma]

Poor Erik is going to run himself ragged sucking up to both side. And I intend to enjoy every minute of watching be the hypocritical turd he is.

Yeah, the cunt really is a tiny colon clone, isn't he?

[comslave]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

Who gets to participate in public discourse or a private club? Doesn't sound very egalitarian or democratic.

Svans 'movements' will just morph into radfem activism. Actual skeptics will move elsewhere.

Someone needs to let them know this: If you had been nice, there would be no Slymepit.

[Karmakin]

Nugent: That's terrible. That you would use that language. Settle down. We should talk about how plainly harmful that language of yours is. Do you know any swear word offends all women, except when we use it? You should really be more sensitive to these things?

That's actually what pisses me off the most. Utter incompetence. Although I think it's unrealistic, I can actually understand the theoretical gender feminist stance, that gender traits are entirely social constructs and such can and must be overcome. I don't think that's correct (pregnancy and other physical differences are a real thing, although I don't think they should be prescriptive on our views on an individual), but I don't think that it's entirely wrong either.

The problem is, that statements like "offends all women", which although this is satire, is a very common idea, is basically utterly failing at gender feminism. It's assigning a gender trait about being offended to all women. It's like Adam Lee's little petition, that ended up being one of the most sexist things I've read in a LONG time, both against men and women.

That's why I disagree with the notion that it's gender feminism we're dealing with here. They're building up the gender-based social constructs as fast as they can.

I actually have friends that are raising a kid from a gender feminist perspective. They're making things as gender neutral as realistically possible. And to be honest, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. But it's a complete 180 from what we're seeing from the bigot brigade.

[Lsuoma]

oolon, slimy turn, oolon (the original account) and noblehawk2 all have the same ISP.

My bet is it's oolon.

I thought these forums were able to show admins the IP addresses of posters.
https://www.phpbb.com/support/documenta ... or_mcp.php

They do - I have all three IP adresses.

Name and shame the IP address(es). Please.

They have forfeited their right to anonymity.

No they haven't. Don't ask me to start down the doxxing slope.

[Eskarina]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

She also pontificates that:

Can you call someone a “cunt” as an endearment? Sure you can, because what you’re telling them is that you still love them despite them being such an awful thing.

A cunt is a such an awful thing? If I had such a disturbed relation to this part of my anatomy I might consider the term insulting, too.

And thanks for telling everyone else how this is the only way one can use "cunt" as a term of endearment. You are the ultimate authority, I take it. :roll:

[windy]

Guys, maybe Nugent has a point. There's been way too much lowbrow activity on this forum. We can try to step up our game and discuss more intellectual topics for a change. How about some Classical verse! Nothing too offensive there, right? ... Wait, what was that, Catullus?

-
I will sodomize you and face-fuck you,
Cocksucking Aurelius and bottom-man Furius,
You who think that I'm a pussy
Because of my delicate verses.
It's right for the devoted poet
To be chaste himself, but it's not
Necessary for his verses to be so.
Verses which then have taste and charm,
If they are delicate and sexy,
And when they can incite an itch,
And I don't mean for boys, but in
Those hairy old men who can't get their dicks up.
You, because you have read of my thousand kisses,
You think I'm a pussy?
I will sodomize you and face-fuck you.

Now quote that out of context, fuckers

[Lsuoma]

FWIW, I don't think it's Oolon either. I do think it's someone attempting to ramp up the drama, however.

Given the YouTube info just published, I agree it might not be colon. But there are certainly enough people willing, nay, eager, to stir up the shit to paint the Pit with.

I don't give a fuck really. That's their problem. Ever since these sort of Nugenty dramas became common, we've been getting a stead influx of cool people here.

[Patrick]

Slymepitter (words to the effect of): Fuck. These gender feminists are ruining the atheist / skeptic community / movement. I can't believe that dishonest bitch would deliberately misstate rape statistics and accuse all men of being potential rapists. I tried to politely raise the correct statistics and my interpretation with him/her on his/her blog and s/he blocked me and called me a misogynist and an asshole in the comment thread. I mentioned the interaction on Twitter and s/he called me a harasser and said it was part of a campaign of harassment from MRAs. I don't know what s/he's talking about. S/he's fucking crazy.

Nugent: That's terrible. That you would use that language. Settle down. We should talk about how plainly harmful that language of yours is. Do you know any swear word offends all women, except when we use it? You should really be more sensitive to these things?

Slymepitter: What the fuck? Did you read what I said? What the fuck is going on?

Nugent: Why do you consider it is morally justified to swear?

Slymepitter: What? Swearing's not immoral. What are you talking about?

Nugent: Okay. But how is it morally justified to swear but you still don't want to see a photoshopped image of a female blogger's head on a nude woman's body on your forum? They are obviously for all reasonable purposes equivalent.

Slymepitter: Wait. Why aren't we talking about the hostile and non-skeptical behaviour of purported leaders in the community, including in creating an in-group of dogmatic ideologues?

Nugent: No. Together we need to move past the swearing. How do you justify it? Pick 25 posts from the Slymepit that you disagree with and why they are horrendous and why you consider it was appropriate for censorship to have occurred.

Slymepitter: Can I explain why we have an issue with the gender feminists? You might see then why we would swear in a social situation.

Nugent: No. Swearing is always inappropriate except with reference to religious people. Please do not talk about those issues and focus instead on your swearing and how you will repent.

Slymepitter: Oh. Fuck this then.

Nugent: Just as I feared. The Slymepitters are incapable of being reasoned with. I have determined change is unable to occur. Please give me an award when I have all my besties over in Ireland. As can be expected, we're taking the slideshow from a nearby church's sermon on sex and swearing and just deleting the words 'God'. It will be fun times. All the alcohol Rebecca can drink too (assuming she doesn't stay up to 4am). Also the elevators are broken (phew!).

Please post this on Nugent's blog.

[Dick Strawkins]

FWIW, I don't think it's Oolon either. I do think it's someone attempting to ramp up the drama, however.

Given the YouTube info just published, I agree it might not be colon. But there are certainly enough people willing, nay, eager, to stir up the shit to paint the Pit with.

I don't give a fuck really. That's their problem. Ever since these sort of Nugenty dramas became common, we've been getting a stead influx of cool people here.

It's not oolons name on Noblehawk2's blogspot blog.

[AndrewV69]

I point out the pit has standards, and is consistent in applying them:

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2013/03/07 ... ent-197339

AndrewV69 March 7, 2013 at 4:24 pm

Sally,#66
To put it more in Mick’s terms, where are you drawing that line if it isn’t “Someone big is looking” or “That person isn’t a regular”?

Here is the thing Sally. when you have a standard, and you are not a hypocrite, you apply that standard consistently, and it does not matter if anyone is watching or not.

For example, there was a similar type image posted previous to the current one which apparently has so far apparently escaped attention.

Let me remedy that now:
viewtopic.php?p=61068#p61068
“Fuck it. I’ll risk the banhammer. If young tits are okay so should old ones be. Avert your eyes!”

Here is just one response. Not mine.
viewtopic.php?p=61078#p61078
“Not enough.

Not witty enough.
Not interesting enough.
Not topical enough.
Not funny enough.
Not satirical enough.”

I can not be arsed to check further but if you do visit that thread you will in time come across my response, and his if memory serves where he is miffed at my lack of appreciation and calls me a “Granny”.

All in all, this is just one of the issues. Not that “those people” are feminists, but that they fail to apply their standards to themselves. The same standards they insist must apply to others.

If you wish to allow “those people” to set themselves up as your moral arbiters feel free. Just do not expect me to do so.

(links fixed and resub to avoid moderation)

[Metalogic42]

Over on FTB, Comradde is still railing against pitbulls:

http://www.freezepage.com/1362673674YUNVRJAJGA

Of course, his "argument" could be applied to any larger pet, but none of those are called pit bulls.

[LMU]

I point out the pit has standards, and is consistent in applying them:

--snipped--

I think what they might be asking is: What are the pit's standards? How do they know we are consistent in applying them?

One possible response is that it isn't actually their business any more than it is ours how PZ moderates his blog.

I'm happy to take a strong stance for free speech here, but there is the risk that a bunch of trolls will come in and fill the place with something gross. That might just be the risk we have to take or the price we have to pay. We won't necessarily become 4chan, but then again we might. We could also go the route of trying to articulate rules or guidelines more explicitly and then try to enforce them. Lots of forums do this, and they don't all become Atheism Plus, though obviously some do. Or we could continue to judge things as they come, as we have been.

If nob was just someone with poor taste, rather than a troll, is there something we could do to prevent such events in the future? If there is something we could do, should we? (Note that in a lot of cases "we" really just means "Lsuoma" unless he decides to delegate)

[ReneeHendricks]

My tiny little thoughts on Nugent's latest post and its affect on O.Benson: http://beliefblower.com/michael-nugents-backfire

Judging from her tweets, he did not do a good thing. Neither did noblehawk2.

[welch]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

LOL. Yeah. that's it.

[welch]

Noblehawk2's blog?
http://noblehawk2.blogspot.se/2013/02/t ... -blog.html

I think it looks like it may be the same guy - at least from the logo.

Oolon may be in the clear - but have a granny-porn lover on his doorstep!

Yeah, the chances it was oolio are effectively zero now. Shame.

[tina]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

She also pontificates that:

Can you call someone a “cunt” as an endearment? Sure you can, because what you’re telling them is that you still love them despite them being such an awful thing.

A cunt is a such an awful thing? If I had such a disturbed relation to this part of my anatomy I might consider the term insulting, too.

And thanks for telling everyone else how this is the only way one can use "cunt" as a term of endearment. You are the ultimate authority, I take it. :roll:

That really is a priceless own goal....oh my, is she really that clueless?

[welch]

Poor Erik is going to run himself ragged sucking up to both side. And I intend to enjoy every minute of watching be the hypocritical turd he is.

Yeah, the cunt really is a tiny colon clone, isn't he?

Pretty much. He wants to have it both ways, only he's not even as good as oolon at that. At least oolio was smart enough to seize on the TROLOLOLOLOL shit as a reason why he'd post here.

Erik wants to be 'in' here and at FTB, and because he knows you can't do that without sucking the FTB dick, welp, back and forth he goes.

you know, if he'd just stuck to his original "not going to engage at the pit" statement, he'd have far fewer problems.

[tina]

Are people de-cloaking in large numbers here? That at least would be a positive outcome of nuggetgate if nothing else.

[Apples]

My tiny little thoughts on Nugent's latest post and its affect on O.Benson: http://beliefblower.com/michael-nugents-backfire

Judging from her tweets, he did not do a good thing. Neither did noblehawk2.

Wow - "you're destroying me?" And Steph is harping on him too. At this rate the Nuge is going to end up a 'pitter.

[welch]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

She also pontificates that:

Can you call someone a “cunt” as an endearment? Sure you can, because what you’re telling them is that you still love them despite them being such an awful thing.

A cunt is a such an awful thing? If I had such a disturbed relation to this part of my anatomy I might consider the term insulting, too.

And thanks for telling everyone else how this is the only way one can use "cunt" as a term of endearment. You are the ultimate authority, I take it. :roll:

Someone seems to have a wee bit of self-loathing going on.

Why Steffy? Why do you hate your ladybits so?

[Apples]

Are people de-cloaking in large numbers here? That at least would be a positive outcome of nuggetgate if nothing else.

14 new registered members in the last week or so.

[debaser71]

Thanks for pointing that out ReneeHendricks. I genuinely feel bad for O. Benson.

[Eskarina]

Zvan reminds everyone what this is really all about:

The last thing we’re doing right now is having an argument over what words are polite. This is an argument over who gets to participate in our movements. Don’t forget that for a minute. It’s the only light in which all of this makes sense.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... the-words/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362666269FBBGSFSKFG

and if you don't march lockstep with zvain on all issues, OUT YOU GO

She also pontificates that:

Can you call someone a “cunt” as an endearment? Sure you can, because what you’re telling them is that you still love them despite them being such an awful thing.

A cunt is a such an awful thing? If I had such a disturbed relation to this part of my anatomy I might consider the term insulting, too.

And thanks for telling everyone else how this is the only way one can use "cunt" as a term of endearment. You are the ultimate authority, I take it. :roll:

That really is a priceless own goal....oh my, is she really that clueless?

Either that or she is a really bad writer.

Which leads to the same conclusion.

[cunt]

I think Svan needs reminding that she's a third rate hack blogger with an audience in the double digits, not Joan d'Arc.

[Guest]

I asked the podcast of Apt J to offer her 20 grand if she could prove what she said in he podcast and the folks at that podcast pussied out, they will not even ask her majisty, she is too overwhelmed with dealing with the trash.

I do not follow your line of logic. Maybe I have missed something. Why should anyone put up their money for an issue you have, particularly as they do not have the evidence and background you have and may well not wish to spend the time on it. It does not make sense.

Wil I'm part of Apt J don't come in here and start talking shit about me. I don't know who the fuck you are and if you choose to refer to me as somebody who "pussed out" then I just may respond by proving you wrong using overkill and you as my example. You prove you have 20k to give her and I'm sure something can be arranged until then STFU.

Look I can say any thing I want about you and your show if you mention me and my name and then call me every name in the book and have a guest that is a pathological liar and with a bad case of Chlamidya, so be sure to put a condem on before you stick it in there.

[Ericb]

I think Svan needs reminding that she's a third rate hack blogger with an audience in the double digits, not Joan d'Arc.

The thing with many SJW' is that they feel so oppressed and belittled by the outer world that for them narcissistic, becomes a radical, revolutionary act on par with the storming of the Bastille.

[Ericb]

I think Svan needs reminding that she's a third rate hack blogger with an audience in the double digits, not Joan d'Arc.

The thing with many SJW' is that they feel so oppressed and belittled by the outer world that for them narcissistic, becomes a radical, revolutionary act on par with the storming of the Bastille.

[ReneeHendricks]

Thanks for pointing that out ReneeHendricks. I genuinely feel bad for O. Benson.

She seemed depressed the other day and this just seems to have made it worse. It's not much and it may seem hypocritical to some but I donated $10 to her fund. I figure she can go out and get a coffee or two or those cookies she goes on about - whatever brings a small smile, you know?

[Southern]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

Yeah, I changed my tone and called this Nuggets guy an asshole at least 3 times since this started. I want him to watch this and then go pass moral judgement on his fat cow of a mother. Do you see this, Pope Nuggets? FUCK YOU.

Oh, and fuck the PhysioProfee too, just because.

[EdwardGemmer]

I asked the podcast of Apt J to offer her 20 grand if she could prove what she said in he podcast and the folks at that podcast pussied out, they will not even ask her majisty, she is too overwhelmed with dealing with the trash.

I do not follow your line of logic. Maybe I have missed something. Why should anyone put up their money for an issue you have, particularly as they do not have the evidence and background you have and may well not wish to spend the time on it. It does not make sense.

Wil I'm part of Apt J don't come in here and start talking shit about me. I don't know who the fuck you are and if you choose to refer to me as somebody who "pussed out" then I just may respond by proving you wrong using overkill and you as my example. You prove you have 20k to give her and I'm sure something can be arranged until then STFU.

Look I can say any thing I want about you and your show if you mention me and my name and then call me every name in the book and have a guest that is a pathological liar and with a bad case of Chlamidya, so be sure to put a condem on before you stick it in there.

Are there any good cases of chlamydia?

[Southern]

LOL! Sally has decided we've changed our tune here on the 'Pit 'cuz "someone big" is watching us. She mentioned Zvan in this comment but I'm going to assume she meant Nugent.

Sally, fat jokes are never funny :naughty:

Why not?

[Ericb]

I think Svan needs reminding that she's a third rate hack blogger with an audience in the double digits, not Joan d'Arc.

Damn, I double posted and didn't even get the sentence right. Sorry.

The thing with many SJW' is that they feel so oppressed and belittled by the outer world that for them narcissistic, egomania becomes a radical, revolutionary act on par with the storming of the Bastille.

[cunt]

I don't think Svan actually feels oppressed or belittled by the outside. She always was a narcissistic egomaniac, SJW "activism" just gives her a bit of cover for it.

[AndrewV69]

I make a suggestion:

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2013/03/07 ... ent-197373

AndrewV69 March 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm

doubtthat, #117

“I would also note that this bastion of freedom contains very few (if any) examples of similar efforts based on racial hostility. Would the pit be so enthusiastic about someone ripping into a black skeptic using the obvious slurs and old racist descriptions?”

No. We tend not to do that.

However, seeing as the Slymepit has many members of all different races you could ask them. All you have to do is register and pose your question.

Here, let me help you:
“Which one of you niggers, spics, gooks wops and honkeys get upset about ripping into someone’s race instead of attacking their ideas?”

You could also ask this while you are at it:
“Do any of you faggots, trannys and dykes feel uncomfortable being around so many breeders?”

YMMV

[Southern]

Over on FTB, Comradde is still railing against pitbulls:

http://www.freezepage.com/1362673674YUNVRJAJGA

Of course, his "argument" could be applied to any larger pet, but none of those are called pit bulls.

Oh, so now not only the little shitstain writes like an imbecileee, he also has a racistee problem with dogs too?

Proffe, you are the fucking worst of the whole bunch.

[Submariner]

Aratina Cage ‏@aratina

@Felix3333 Good question. I'm not sure Michael Nugent realizes the enormity of the damage being done here, and then to apologize to the pit?

[justinvacula]

VJACK (Atheist Revolution) and Michael Nugent for Witch of the Week - Karla and I too, lol.

[jimthepleb]

Skepsheik reminds Nugent that the Irish Atheist themselves are struggling with the ethics of removing things from their own website.

Oh my goodness....... pots calling kettles black, tit for tat, goose and gander tactics, skeletons in the closet ---> A circus. :o

Karla again I find myself horribly disappointed in you!!
Oh my goodness....... pots (drug reference) calling kettles(anti-police) black (racist), tit (sexist) for tat(anti-poor), goose(rapey) and gander(do you mean gender?) tactics, skeletons(thin shaming) in the closet (homophobic) ---> A circus. :o
I like this language policing lark...do I get a uniform?