Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

#6061

Interesting piece on what "trolling" has become:

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/19/everyth ... lling_now/

#6062

welch wrote:
Hunt wrote:Freezepage: http://www.freezepage.com/1374247601JUWBXSMGSR

Well, not quite as hateful as the comparison to Mark Lepine (I guess).
It seems to me they are really, really counting on the entire 'pit showing up just so they can ban them. PZ's wanking day and night about it at this point.

Sad to say, I'll be disappointing him.

This morning as I was walking to work, me and a Mexican construction worker helped a lost blind black man find the crosswalk, cross said crosswalk, and get to the bus stop.

Me: Helped a disabled racial minority before my morning coffee.

PZ: YOU SLYMERS ARE RACIST! RAAAAAAAACIIIIIIIIIIIST!! FUCK FREE SPEECH!

#6063

Another one:

http://www.theawl.com/2013/06/ken-hoins ... d-mistakes

#6064

welch wrote:
Hunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ech-again/

Well, not quite as hateful as the comparison to Mark Lepine (I guess).
It seems to me they are really, really counting on the entire 'pit showing up just so they can ban them. PZ's wanking day and night about it at this point.

Sad to say, I'll be disappointing him.

They are so fucking predictable that there is really no point turning up to hear what they have to say - you can just guess it and you'll almost certainly be correct.
I tested this theory by reading the transcript of the Evo Psych panel at Skepchickcon that Svan and Therribles claim is so different than the summary reviewed by Coyne and Pinker.
It was, as you might guess (and as Dave2 has reported) exactly in line with the summary - albeit with a couple of extra gratuitous anti-science swipes thrown in by Myers and Laden. Those two were so annoying I actually felt myself say "shut up already, let Amanda Marcotte speak!"

#6065

I think it's official. The internet has been taken over by the mainstream. And now it sucks.

#6066

ERV wrote:
welch wrote:
Hunt wrote:Freezepage: http://www.freezepage.com/1374247601JUWBXSMGSR

Well, not quite as hateful as the comparison to Mark Lepine (I guess).
It seems to me they are really, really counting on the entire 'pit showing up just so they can ban them. PZ's wanking day and night about it at this point.

Sad to say, I'll be disappointing him.
This morning as I was walking to work, me and a Mexican construction worker helped a lost blind black man find the crosswalk, cross said crosswalk, and get to the bus stop.

Me: Helped a disabled racial minority before my morning coffee.

PZ: YOU SLYMERS ARE RACIST! RAAAAAAAACIIIIIIIIIIIST!! FUCK FREE SPEECH!

Pfft. Like DOING stuff counts. Who could have known about that? What, 2-3 people? So some blind black dude had what could have been a really horrible day turn into something nice because you and another person were decent human beings. WHERE ARE THE TWEETS? THE INSTAGRAMS! THE FACEBOOKS!

HOW CAN YOU BE A GOOD PERSON IF YOU DON'T LOUDLY ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD EVERY FIVE MINUTES!!!!

PZ and his lot remind me of one of the better "Miami VIce" episodes where they're investigating a Televangelist accused of rape, played by Brian Dennehey.

They watch the guy put on his show, do his schtick, and then they follow him afterwards, where he changes out of the $600 suit and into old work clothes. He then goes to a soup kitchen, gives them a check and spends hours helping feed people. After that, a homeless shelter. They realize that the TV show is sleazy as hell, but this guy spends all his time outside of the show helping people. The majority of the money he takes in goes to charity. They look into his past, and he's spent his life prior to the show trying to help people all over the world. Caught malaria and some other fun things because he was doing all this stuff.

So finally, they ask him about it, and he says:

"For years, I tried to be honest. I tried to say "your money will go to feed the hungry, help the sick, build homes for people who have none". I almost starved. But I put on this suit, and tell them that their money will get them a place in heaven, and jesus will love them more if they donate more, that they're good people if they donate more, and the money rolls in. I make sure that money goes to the people who need it most, but if this...charade...is the only way i can get that money so I can actually help people, then i'll hold my nose and wear this suit, and do what I have to so that those who need help get help."

All PZ and his crew would see is "ebul christian" and try to shut the guy down, even though in that (fictional) case, here's someone doing a lot of good, even though he has to be kind of sleazy to do it. He's behaving, some of the time, in a way that most people would disapprove of, so of course, he is of no use as a person, right?

#6067

Jan Steen wrote:"Many names you'll recognize and love." Love???? Are people supposed to love the likes of Peezus and Rebecca Watson now?

I love Rebecca Watson.

Correction: I sexualize her.

#6068

Dick Strawkins wrote:
They are so fucking predictable that there is really no point turning up to hear what they have to say - you can just guess it and you'll almost certainly be correct.

There's a fun random PoMo essay generator:
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

One could easily construct a random ThoughtFreeBlog post generator.

#6069

Today, I launched a huge vintage matress through my 4th floor livingroom window because the stairs have been reduced to not being wide enough to accomodate it. It was fun. Although nobody was hurt...

#6070

Lsuoma wrote:People, just fucking shut up about the TV/GZ shit or I'll shut the pit down for 48 hours.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3429/fu81.png

I hope you mean it.

#6071

DownThunder wrote:Is it safe to come back here yet?

NO! Fuck off! Israel! Palestine! George Zimmerman's a jew!

#6072

Cunning Punt wrote:
DownThunder wrote:Is it safe to come back here yet?
NO! Fuck off! Israel! Palestine! George Zimmerman's a jew!

Maybe we should call him George Dylan to hide the fact.

#6073

Or Ryy Zimmerman kills Dean Martin, or something.

#6074

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or Ryy Zimmerman kills Dean Martin, or something.

Roy* Fuck we sideways!!!

#6075

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or Ryy Zimmerman kills Dean Martin, or something.

Don't be talking shit about Dino, he rools!

[youtube]9ZEQJCLNxqE[/youtube]

#6076

KenD wrote:Anyone looking to engage in some feel good slacktivism today?

On July 19th, 2013, people are gathering in 35 cities across the globe to protest against violence against sex workers.

Following the murders of Dora Ã–zer and Petite Jasmine on the 9th and 11 of July 2013, sex workers, their friends, families, and allies are coming together to demand an end to stigma, criminalisation, violence and murders. In the week since the two tragedies occurred, the feelings of anger, grief, sadness and injustice â€“ for the loss of Dora and Jasmine, but also for the senseless and systemic murders and violence against sex workers worldwide â€“ have brought together people in 35 cities from four continents who agreed to organise demos, vigils, and protests in front of Turkish and Swedish embassies or other symbolic places.

Along with those actual real-world protests, there's also an attempt to get this trending on Twitter using Thunderclap for those of us who're lazy apathetic fucks. With Irish feminists and conservative Catholics currently lobbying for the same harmful laws as Sweden, I think it's worth a couple of mouse clicks to give this a bit more attention.

Who knows, if it trends it might even get noticed by the mainstream media, although in Britain I think they're all too busy covering unborn royal babies and which dead person will feature on the next Â£5 note...

I would have signed up for the event but it appears I saw this too late and it is over.
https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/3096?locale=en

Anyway, both Turkey and Sweden appear to be in the grip of dogmatic and theological forces that appear to be aligned in their opposition to sex workers.

I am also sure this is not the whole story for either of them but anyway, a couple of links:

Dora Ã–zer
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/should-p ... -in-the-uk
- Sex worker in Turkey murdered (was also m-f trans?)

Petite Jasmine:
https://sometimesitsjustacigar.wordpres ... r-jasmine/
- Sex worker in Sweden. Apparently she failed to buy into the current Feminist narrative, and as a consequence was denied custody of her children, and denied any protection from an abusive ex-partner and was subsequently murdered by him.

#6077

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Jan Steen wrote:"Many names you'll recognize and love." Love???? Are people supposed to love the likes of Peezus and Rebecca Watson now?
I love Rebecca Watson.

Correction: I sexualize her.

Where's the barfing smiley when you need it.

#6078

Gefan wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote: ...I give it 80 years. Fortunately, I will not be around to see it.
You give what 80 years?

Never mind me. Sometimes I get really pessimistic, and besides we will all be dead by then.

Gefan wrote: Other than the likely duration of the Welch - JohnD brawl, that is.

I have not been paying too much attention, plus If you do not have welsh on ignore by now what can I say?

#6079

bovarchist wrote:In other racism news, Quentin Tarantino is considering Karl Urban to play Django in the Django Unchained sequel.

http://www.dafk.net/what/

OK, you got me on that one.

#6080

AndrewV69 wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Good god that Breillat film. I kept hoping that when Rocco put his cock in her mouth it would stop that pretentious Anais Nin like narration, but it didn't. Was her intention to make the most unerotic porn ever? Not a sarcastic question, quite serious.
Well, sounds like I may never get around to watching it then. I have a stack of unopened, still shrink wrapped DVDs that I have not found the time to watch yet including Brokeback Mountain and Sense and Sensibility.

I have however, managed to finish the Sopranos, The Wire, Rome and Deadwood (working on Twin Peaks now).

I know people are keeping up with Game of Thrones, but what about stuff like Downton Abbey, Dexter and Ray Donovan? Anyone watching those?

I keep up with Dexter, True Blood, and Burn Notice right now. Also Breaking Bad soon.

#6081

Tony Parsehole wrote:Hi all.
I haven't been around much of late but I just popped in to ask if anybody had heard about the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case in the States?
Apparently, Zimmerman was found not guilty.
What are peoples thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance everybody.

(Must restrain Fist.Of.Death)

#6082

#6083

Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.

#6084

cunt wrote:Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.

You forgot to add charismatic to my list of attributes

#6085

cunt wrote:Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.

No fucking idea. Frankly at lost...

#6086

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
cunt wrote:Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.
No fucking idea. Frankly at lost...

I think you are good natured and funny.

#6087

Za-zen wrote:
cunt wrote:Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.
You forgot to add charismatic to my list of attributes

I can't remember which one you are. Are you the prison guy. You went to prison? I dunno.

#6088

cunt wrote:
Za-zen wrote:
cunt wrote:Just agreeing with John D. and his "nitwit" post. There's maybe 10 people left who are smart/interesting/funny.

They probably know who I think they are.
You forgot to add charismatic to my list of attributes
I can't remember which one you are. Are you the prison guy. You went to prison? I dunno.

I don't remember, ever, relating that here, though, the fact that a lot of my postings have been made whilst intoxicated, would explain that, as well as free me from any responsibility for said postings.

But you are correct, i have served time at her Majesties pleasure.

#6089

I have an excellent memory.

#6090

You said

I can't remember which one you are.

You the said

cunt wrote:I have an excellent memory.

#6091

Two mentions of Breaking Bad so far ... I think I may check it out. Any other recommendations?

#6092

Also,

The latest Ally Fogg is up:

Goodbye baby boomers: the most criminal generation of them all
http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013 ... -them-all/

I have not read it yet but I suspect he might have a point.

#6093

AndrewV69, if you liked Upstairs Downstairs, you will probably like Downton Abbey. It's Up/Down on a grander scale. However, it is much more sentimental and somewhat treacly at times, so that may or may not appeal.

#6094

Za-zen wrote:You said
I can't remember which one you are.
You the said

cunt wrote:I have an excellent memory.

Hey, I remembered that you were a criminal despite you not remembering telling us that you were locked up in prison.

#6095

John Greg wrote:AndrewV69, if you liked Upstairs Downstairs, you will probably like Downton Abbey. It's Up/Down on a grander scale. However, it is much more sentimental and somewhat treacly at times, so that may or may not appeal.

I have scraped the barrel of Netflix so Downton Abbey is going to get watched sooner or later. Mind you, I used to watch Catherine Cookson's every Sunday with me Mam so I'll probably like it.
I'm such a sad cunt.

#6096

cunt wrote:
Za-zen wrote:You said
I can't remember which one you are.
You the said

cunt wrote:I have an excellent memory.
Hey, I remembered that you were a criminal despite you not remembering telling us that you were locked up in prison.

I also remember him telling us that whilst inside he got bummed off a big Jamaican.

#6097

Ed Brayton's getting in trouble for writing a misogynistic article (according to SJW standards) about Michelle Bachmann.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -bachmann/

5
Giliell, professional cynic

July 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)

Oh bother, could you stop it with the homophobia nad the misogyny?
6
arakasi

July 19, 2013 at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)

Oh geez d.c. How is what you said any different from saying â€œwhat she really needs is a good fuckingâ€. I thought we were past that crap.

Sorry Ed, you're not in Kansas any more.

:popcorn:

#6098

Tony Parsehole wrote: Hey, I remembered that you were a criminal despite you not remembering telling us that you were locked up in prison.

I also remember him telling us that whilst inside he got bummed off a big Jamaican.[/quote]

I think you should join Rationalia with me and we can be friends on there.

#6099

Dick Strawkins wrote:Ed Brayton's getting in trouble for writing a misogynistic article (according to SJW standards) about Michelle Bachmann.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -bachmann/

5
Giliell, professional cynic

July 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)

Oh bother, could you stop it with the homophobia nad the misogyny?
6
arakasi

July 19, 2013 at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)

Oh geez d.c. How is what you said any different from saying â€œwhat she really needs is a good fuckingâ€. I thought we were past that crap.
Sorry Ed, you're not in Kansas any more.

:popcorn:

I'm pretty sure they were responding to comments #2 and #4, not to Ed Brayton.

#6100

Um, isn't it just a tad too early to be condemning/ridiculing the FfTBCon thingy due to low turnout? I mean, it doesn't actually start for another few hours, you know.

/jus sayin

#6101

Metalogic42 wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:Ed Brayton's getting in trouble for writing a misogynistic article (according to SJW standards) about Michelle Bachmann.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... -bachmann/

5
Giliell, professional cynic

July 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)

Oh bother, could you stop it with the homophobia nad the misogyny?
6
arakasi

July 19, 2013 at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)

Oh geez d.c. How is what you said any different from saying â€œwhat she really needs is a good fuckingâ€. I thought we were past that crap.
Sorry Ed, you're not in Kansas any more.

:popcorn:
I'm pretty sure they were responding to comments #2 and #4, not to Ed Brayton.

I don't think so - at least not for the misogyny criticism (the homophobia accusation I agree is referring to the comment about her husband).

10
tuxedocartman

July 19, 2013 at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)

Iâ€™m gonna have to agree with Giliel and arakasi @ 5 & 6 here. This whole post just feels kinda creepy.

#6102

You two are oppressing me, i am a victim. Next time i decide to infringe upon society though, i'll make sure it's florida.

#6103

Guest wrote:
Tfoot wrote:A cynical man might read that as (speakers count as attendees) there are only THREE people attending this conference!
The Breath of Godless; only the cynical man will pass. The cynical man will pass. (He repeats this over and over again.) The cynical man is doubtful before Godless. Cynical man is doubtfulâ€¦ knees the Godless (in the gonads). Knees!

How dare you mock Jeffrey Boam without also hurling feces.

#6104

BarnOwl wrote:Talks about video game tropes do not address social justice, yet this seems to be a major obsession for them.

One wonders if their obsession with video games has anything to do with the fact that Sarkeesian proved there's a lot of money to be made by harvesting trolls from the gamer community.

The prospect of getting $100,000 in donations for doing nothing but pissing people off would be hard to resist.

#6105

Dick Strawkins wrote: I don't think so - at least not for the misogyny criticism (the homophobia accusation I agree is referring to the comment about her husband).

10
tuxedocartman

July 19, 2013 at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)

Iâ€™m gonna have to agree with Giliel and arakasi @ 5 & 6 here. This whole post just feels kinda creepy.

Araksai #6:
"Oh geez d.c. How is what you said any different from saying â€œwhat she really needs is a good fuckingâ€. I thought we were past that crap."

d.c. wilson #2:
"Considering how uptight she, I canâ€™t think of a more appropriate gift for her. Maybe after she uses it a few times, sheâ€™ll lose that crazy, goggly-eyes look."

Later comments are directed at Ed, but these are not. Tuxedocartman is misinterpreting.

#6106

Tony Parsehole wrote:
John Greg wrote:AndrewV69, if you liked Upstairs Downstairs, you will probably like Downton Abbey. It's Up/Down on a grander scale. However, it is much more sentimental and somewhat treacly at times, so that may or may not appeal.
I have scraped the barrel of Netflix so Downton Abbey is going to get watched sooner or later. Mind you, I used to watch Catherine Cookson's every Sunday with me Mam so I'll probably like it.
I'm such a sad cunt.

You sad cunt. I quite surprised myself by enjoying Sons Of Anarchy, thought it would be shite, but ended up hooked on it. Ron Perlman is great.

#6107

bhoytony wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
John Greg wrote:AndrewV69, if you liked Upstairs Downstairs, you will probably like Downton Abbey. It's Up/Down on a grander scale. However, it is much more sentimental and somewhat treacly at times, so that may or may not appeal.
I have scraped the barrel of Netflix so Downton Abbey is going to get watched sooner or later. Mind you, I used to watch Catherine Cookson's every Sunday with me Mam so I'll probably like it.
I'm such a sad cunt.
You sad cunt. I quite surprised myself by enjoying Sons Of Anarchy, thought it would be shite, but ended up hooked on it. Ron Perlman is great.

Sons Of Anarchy......I tried. God help me I tried but I couldn't get past the third episode of the first series. Mates keep telling me to stick with it but it was too gung-ho for me.
Perlman is a boss though. He was great in Enemy At The Gates even though he gets killed after half an hour.

#6108

John Greg wrote:AndrewV69, if you liked Upstairs Downstairs, you will probably like Downton Abbey. It's Up/Down on a grander scale. However, it is much more sentimental and somewhat treacly at times, so that may or may not appeal.

The stories are also absurdly lurid at times. Not to give anything away, but the latest shocker really was the last straw for me. I hate that kind of "Everybody's happy...OH NOEZ" approach to writing.

#6109

Tony Parsehole wrote: Sons Of Anarchy......I tried. God help me I tried but I couldn't get past the third episode of the first series. Mates keep telling me to stick with it but it was too gung-ho for me.
Perlman is a boss though. He was great in Enemy At The Gates even though he gets killed after half an hour.

I have the same problem sometimes with telly series, films and books. Sometimes I just can't get into it and lose interest. A lot of times I've gone back at a later date and tried again, got hooked and ended up loving it.

#6110

I've been watching Burn Notice. It's a good show. Light-hearted, tongue in cheek. I really hate cop shows that take themselves too seriously.

#6111

bhoytony wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote: Sons Of Anarchy......I tried. God help me I tried but I couldn't get past the third episode of the first series. Mates keep telling me to stick with it but it was too gung-ho for me.
Perlman is a boss though. He was great in Enemy At The Gates even though he gets killed after half an hour.
I have the same problem sometimes with telly series, films and books. Sometimes I just can't get into it and lose interest. A lot of times I've gone back at a later date and tried again, got hooked and ended up loving it.

Tell me about it. I sacked Fresh Meat when it came out because of Jack Fucking Whitehall acting like Jack Fucking Whitehall all the fucking time.....Now, if I saw him in the street, I'd offer to wank him off.
I might give S.O.A. a go again. I've been burned by too many series just getting shit as absolute fuck and making me gutted that I wasted my time with them (yes "Lost" "Mad Men" I'm talking about you) so maybe I judged it too harshly.

If I could recommend a series I'd say give Breaking Bad a go if you haven't already watched it. It's showing the last half of the final series in August so there's no chance of it getting massively shit and up to now it's been consistently epic all the way through.

Oh, and as I'm writing this an advert for the new Alan partridge film just came on the telly. Back of the net.

#6112

Tell you what I couldn't watch if I was paid.....True Blood and all that teen vampire shit. No. Fucking. Way.

#6113

The Pit is best when it's talking about the telly.

#6114

Justified is awesome.

As was Fringe.

Castle is surprisingly good.

#6115

Later comments are directed at Ed, but these are not. Tuxedocartman is misinterpreting.

I don't think so.

11

abear
July 19, 2013 at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
Next thing you know Ed is going to go full Slymepit and post a picture of Bachmann with a foot long hotdog crammed in her mouth!
12

raven
July 19, 2013 at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
It really looks like the GOP is throwing Bachmann under the bus.
Her continuous stream of wild statements that are both false and senseless are costing them a lot.
It makes them look dumb. Or at least dumber. It also cost millions to keep getting her reelected. She outspent her opponent 10 to 1 and she barely won.
Now she is in serious legal trouble for misusing campaign funds. And I havenâ€™t seen anyone who has bothered to defend her.
13

Loqi
July 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
Imagine that. A conservative whose job is to make people enjoy being lied to turns out to be a creepy sleaze. I never would have guessed.
14

petemoulton
July 19, 2013 at 3:35 pm (UTC -4)
â€œThe person familiar with the story said the firm successfully retrieved the gift before Bachmann could open it.â€
So, are they saying that someone interfered with a US Mail delivery? That sounds suspiciously like a federal offense to me.
15

kenbo
July 19, 2013 at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
Ok, I give up, Ed. Whatâ€™s so fascinating about it? And please tell us why you think they would not have gotten it back if she opened it.
16

Ibis3, Let's burn some bridges
July 19, 2013 at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
Prude shaming, slut shaming and general misogyny directed at a female public figure all rolled into one post plus comments. Nice.

#6116

Yep, Breaking Bad is fantastic.

#6117

Top Ten telly programmes of all time in no particular order (subject to change):

Rome
Vic Reeves Big Night Out
The Storyteller
I'm Alan Partridge
Garth Marhengi's Darkplace
The Sopranos
Knightmare
The Office (UK)
Bo Selecta
Game Of Thrones

#6118

bhoytony wrote:Yep, Breaking Bad is fantastic.

Ahhhhh......I knew you wouldn't let me down.

#6119

Tony Parsehole wrote:The Pit is best when it's talking about the telly.

Except when it's talking about Dr fucking Who and Star Trek.

#6120

cunt wrote:
I think you should join Rationalia with me and we can be friends on there.

I think we'd be best off making a new forum with no topic or mission plan at all. We could call it Chat-Wank.