Bleeding from the Bunghole

#17401

Lsuoma wrote: How is babby formed?

Rappe.

#17402

Bah, your irish music is no match for some truly excellent british rock.

[youtube]QbFOgqc3Nfg[/youtube]
[youtube]eiulgP9kR7c[/youtube]

No surprise Zvanatee is still rolling around in her own filth and circle-jerking on twitter instead of doing real work.

#17403

[youtube]6isXNVdguI8[/youtube]

Much like NWA, Ian Dury is one of those musicians who make the Social Justice Warrior's heads explode.

#17404

John Greg wrote:You know, maybe Peezus sort of thinks he's running a kiddies daycamp, and is, oh, I don't know, living some sort of fantasy kiddies version of a holiday camp for kids who he can protect from all the Blue Meanies of the world, hence giving him, Peezus, his one remaining true joy in life.

Or something like that.

He certainly doesn't act like an intelligent, mature adult dealing with other intelligent, mature adults.

More like Lord of the Flies, and Peezus thinks he's Jack when he's actually Piggy.

#17405

Fuck off caruthers you imperialist twat.

Before i'm corrected for being loose and free with facts by some pedantic skeptic, i'll correct myself, the uilleann pipes are not the ancestor of the scottish bagpipe, the irish warpipe is. Yes i know. I should have used the term. The Uilleann is used to refer to the Irish pipe in Ireland. Why? Because it was the way in which pipers in Ireland circumvented the statute of Kilkenny.

Part of that statute banned the Irish warpipe. Why? Because the English realised something, a fucklot of paddys fueled on whiskey and gassed with warpipes were not something you wanted to meet on the battlefield. So they banned the pipe.

So technically the Irish warpipe is the forefather of the scottish bagpipe. The uilleann pipe came later (you had to sit down to play it, so wouldn't be marching any army into battle).

#17406

Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg[/quote]
Red is a warning color in many animals, although in their (SJW) case I suspect its just mimicry.[/quote]

http://www.dsphotographic.com/g2/12649- ... s+-004.jpg[/quote]

The baboons have evolved into Mandrills just as I had predicted.
The next logical step will be hipster horn rimmed glasses being shooped onto the colorful butts.
It all fits into Darwin's plan. Evolution is occurring on the internet as we observe. :ugeek:

#17407

Amazing example of the religious fitting reality to their worldview...and FAILING!!!

These two quotes are from two different tellings of the same story (sound familiar in christianity?), concerning the donation of a dinosaur skeleton to Answers in Genesis, or the Creation museum (same organization I think).

How the fuck do their brains deal with this shit?

Quote 1:
http://i.imgur.com/qmFD0UN.png

Quote 2:
http://i.imgur.com/5jjvA8z.png

Here are the links:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... ion-museum
http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... aur-fossil

#17408

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Amazing example of the religious fitting reality to their worldview...and FAILING!!!

These two quotes are from two different tellings of the same story (sound familiar in christianity?), concerning the donation of a dinosaur skeleton to Answers in Genesis, or the Creation museum (same organization I think).

How the fuck do their brains deal with this shit?

Cos GOD did it!

#17409

Guest wrote:

+ he knows he should care
+ he knows rape is a terrible crime
+ he's not talking about fake feminist victims but about real victims of rape
+ he's talking about a rape in progress right in front of him
+ he says nothing about male disposability
+ he says he has heard far too often that men are rapists and evil
His tone as he reads this often seems angry.
He doesn't refer to male disposability at all....

Decades ago, John the Other saw a rape in progress and risked his own life to save a woman; by engaging in physical combat with the rapist.

Do you concede thatâ€” in the situation John describedâ€” our society places a greater expectation on a male bystander to blindly sacrifice his own safety for the benefit of a stranger? Thatâ€™s how male disposability is relevant to the story.

#17410

bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg
Who is that, anyway?

Google "red-headed feminist bitch"

#17411

free thoughtpolice wrote:
The baboons have evolved into Mandrills just as I had predicted.
The next logical step will be hipster horn rimmed glasses being shooped onto the colorful butts.
It all fits into Darwin's plan. Evolution is occurring on the internet as we observe. :ugeek:

#17412

O gawd...hahahahaha.

#17413

Tigzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
The baboons have evolved into Mandrills just as I had predicted.
The next logical step will be hipster horn rimmed glasses being shooped onto the colorful butts.
It all fits into Darwin's plan. Evolution is occurring on the internet as we observe. :ugeek:

I hope that weird wee turd will have the courtesy to thank you for that fine rendering.
LOOK AT HOW THE PITTERS HAVE VICTIMISED ME!! Hit the Paypal button if you feel sorry for me!
Tigzy, you need to get share of his soon to be harvested sympathy dollar$! :P

#17414

Dick Strawkins wrote:One for the slymepit knitters (I think that's just BarnOwl!)

Lousy Canuck links to the following Etsy shop for all your woolly feminist ally needs.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/GlitzKnitsBout ... item-count

One of the funniest dramas currently on Ravelry involves butthurt over a mystery knit-along shawl (male designer!) which, when completed, ends up looking like a giant colorful vagina. One Raveller called her project Alotta Fagina. :mrgreen:

#17415

bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg
Who is that, anyway?

Grumpy-Cat-happy.jpg: (33.53 KiB) Downloaded 398 times

#17416

Tigzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
The baboons have evolved into Mandrills just as I had predicted.
The next logical step will be hipster horn rimmed glasses being shooped onto the colorful butts.
It all fits into Darwin's plan. Evolution is occurring on the internet as we observe. :ugeek:

So disturbing!

I'll never get to sleep tonight. :shock:

#17417

bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg

Redheads are sexy.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9199/aq7.png

#17418

Who will be the next writer, the next big name, the next intellectual pop star, the next science interpreter for the layman, the next TED talker, the next best-seller...

...to be stabbed by the poison pen of PZ Myers' player-hating jealousy?

Did you say Malcolm Gladwell? Good guess.

#GladwellMustDenounce

#17419

Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg[/quote]
Red is a warning color in many animals, although in their (SJW) case I suspect its just mimicry.[/quote]

http://www.dsphotographic.com/g2/12649- ... s+-004.jpg[/quote]

It's Darwin at work again. You'd think these people would be against that considering his views on gender issues were far behind theirs.

#17420

bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg
Who is that, anyway?

You never heard of Chanty Binx AKA "Big Red"?

http://www.avoiceformen.com/portal/wp-c ... 38x354.png

[youtube]5wuoytL8S7c[/youtube]

#17421

jimthepleb wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:One for the slymepit knitters (I think that's just BarnOwl!)

Lousy Canuck links to the following Etsy shop for all your woolly feminist ally needs.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/GlitzKnitsBout ... item-count
Although not a knitter I know a frightening amount about yarn. My wife, both my sisters-in-law and my mother-in-law are all mad for knitting and my brother has a business importing Alpaca and bamboo yarns into Europe from China and South America. So if you ever need a pattern or two barn owl, gi' us a shout.

Knitting keeps me from throttling annoying people at work. It has the added bonus of producing wearable items for myself and others, and toy bunnies and puppies for the babies of friends who are foolhardy enough to reproduce. I'm a total fiberholic and knit-nerd, and my dream is to attend the New York State Sheep and Wool Festival some day. Last year I bought a Schacht wheel, so now I'm a spinning geek as well. Love all natural fibers and hand-dyed yarns. Trying to convince my ranch-owning friends to keep a couple of alpacas in an empty paddock.

I hear that hours and hours of a knitting competition are broadcast on Norwegian television. Norway sounds like my kind of country. :D

#17422

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Grumpy Cat needs some serious competition;

#17423

Suet Cardigan wrote:
bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg
Redheads are sexy.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9199/aq7.png

http://i.imgur.com/H8vaQXB.jpg

#17424

:violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:

Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
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Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.

#17425

AndrewV69 wrote:
bovarchist wrote:
Marsmar wrote:
Red hair seems to be a trend with these kinds of people.
http://i.imgur.com/saLaXhd.jpg
Who is that, anyway?
You never heard of Chanty Binx AKA "Big Red"?

Fuck me, I'd prefer Jar-Jar Fuckin' Binx!!!

#17426

free thoughtpolice wrote::violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:
Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
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Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.

How was your day "at work" dear?

http://i.imgur.com/dw4zz0i.jpg

#17427

free thoughtpolice wrote::violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:
Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
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Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.

[youtube]hbjrocMgwpI[/youtube]
I couldn't not share this. :lol:

#17428

Damn, you buggers have been busy. Lots of good sjw drama I see as I catch up.

Amazing. Who ever would have thought the Pyt would become my reference for the musical classics. DeBussy is wonderful and we have been apart for too long, so thanks for the refresher. As for the other references: Krimson rules all. Beatles - good for what they were at the time and they were no doubt an important transitional presence. I do like some of their stuff, but own not a single album or song. Never cared for Rush, although many of my friends did. Yes was a fav but they lost their edge with the arrival of Topographic Oceans and never recovered. Pink Floyd, remarkable in their early years, and held strong through The Wall. But King Crimson rules them all and continues to do so. They just reformed into yet another incarnation and are planning tours!

But the classical composers, there is the real stuff. DeBussy, Tchaikofsky! The Russians have always been the power players, though, the ones who really brought the meat to the table, Stravinsky's 'The Rite of Spring (magnificent!) and especially Shastakovich's 5th Symphony (stunning!)

[youtube]kTqsU7tQW48[/youtube]

Oh, and CONGRATS TO DR. ABBY! :dance: :clap: :dance:

#17429

WonderistDelurking wrote:
jimthepleb wrote:Welcome wonderistdelurking...are you the wonderist we used to know and (searching for appropriate word)?
either way, welcome (back) and...
Fuck off.
Someone will be along shortly to provide you with a basket of lynx.
Yes, it's me, and no, I'm not 'back'. I've been lurking all the while, but as I stated (here: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=345) I will not be supporting this website in any way until the issues mentioned in the post are resolved. A big reason for lurking is to see if they were being resolved. So far, there is no sign that they have been. As I stated, I only delurked to point out the potential quote mine which had been missed by other commenters. I have logged out in order to make a 'guest' post for that purpose. Generally I stay logged in (though hidden) in order to keep track of unread vs read posts.

Oh, please, do go back. I'm having a crysis of insomnia because the the Daylight Saving Time, you could help me wonders with your amazing technique.

#17430

Guest wrote: But it does seem to make sense anthropologically speaking, that as man learned to domesticate and farm animals, that at a certain point after having learned to build fences to keep the pigs and cows in, that the women would have been tossed into the pen as well.

Presumably the alpha male would have had a pen of dozens of Raquel Welch like women, in loin cloths, cowering.

http://i.imgur.com/4I11yIy.jpg

Probably showing her tits though. What a great time to be had by all!

And these women would be bred like cattle one baby a year for each of them, fed grass, with the male children raised to be drones, kings, or killed, and the female children raised to become sex calves for the keepers.

All kept in pens that the women and children couldn't escape from, next to the cows and pigs.

Rachel Welch + alpha male = reminds me of Myra Breckinridge. More specifically, strapon rape. And Mae West doing her sexy lady act.

Hm, maybe that movie alone killed my interest in sex. And in movies.

#17431

James Caruthers wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote::violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:
Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
132
Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.
[youtube]hbjrocMgwpI[/youtube]
I couldn't not share this. :lol:

"How do I get past the first goomba in Super Mario Bros, miss?" Amazing!

#17432

Marsmar wrote:
James Caruthers wrote: [youtube]hbjrocMgwpI[/youtube]
I couldn't not share this. :lol:
"How do I get past the first goomba in Super Mario Bros, miss?" Amazing!

There's a playlist of about 4-5 videos, all amazing.

It's a perfect video series on SJW feminism. :lol:

#17433

Southern wrote:
WonderistDelurking wrote:
jimthepleb wrote:Welcome wonderistdelurking...are you the wonderist we used to know and (searching for appropriate word)?
either way, welcome (back) and...
Fuck off.
Someone will be along shortly to provide you with a basket of lynx.
Yes, it's me, and no, I'm not 'back'. I've been lurking all the while, but as I stated (here: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=345) I will not be supporting this website in any way until the issues mentioned in the post are resolved. A big reason for lurking is to see if they were being resolved. So far, there is no sign that they have been. As I stated, I only delurked to point out the potential quote mine which had been missed by other commenters. I have logged out in order to make a 'guest' post for that purpose. Generally I stay logged in (though hidden) in order to keep track of unread vs read posts.
Oh, please, do go back. I'm having a crysis of insomnia because the the Daylight Saving Time, you could help me wonders with your amazing technique.

"I'm leaving forever. Just to show you that, I'm going to come back every so often and remind you i've left. I'll also be monitoring everything you say, and also popping in to remind you I'm waaaaaaay too smart for this place. Because I'm bigger than all that. And now, I shall go back to watching everything you do. Because that's not creepy."

#17434

free thoughtpolice wrote::violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:
Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
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Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.

Sure a rather nasty bunch over there - baboons and piranhas is probably being charitable to at least a few. I wonder whether anyone took to heart anything that Chris Clarke said recently on the topic - maybe he's the FftB Cassandra, fated to make dire predictions - by implication at least - that no one will heed until after the fact.

#17435

free thoughtpolice wrote::violin: Meanwhile; back in Pharyguland; Oggie's rage against Bobcat's ruthless triggering comments has moderated somewhat, thank Logic and Andrea Dworkin that art in heaven. PZ was able to intervene in time, although the extra trauma inflicted will certainly insure that Oggie will never heal. :violin:
Ogvorbis: Apologies Available for All!

20 October 2013 at 6:35 am (UTC -5)

No panic attack. had a good night. Took me awhile to come down off the anger, though. A little scary to let myself get that angry.
132
Caine, Fleur du mal

20 October 2013 at 2:19 pm (UTC -5)

Glad to hear that, Ogvorbis. Yeah, the fury can be frightening, no question.

Hahaha, it becomes all the more amusing that it's Caine who says that. "No feelings of wanting to murder other people. Had a good night."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

#17436

Guest wrote:
Steersman wrote: Kind of difficult to decide whether one is talking the "Guest" who is a rabid MRA, or the one who is a rabid TERF if both have used the same monicker (Lewinski). Frequently has some relevance in or bearing on how one responds - history is kind of funny that way. Really does seem a little inconsiderate not to either sign-up or use a consistently different name.

jimthepleb wrote: I guess my issue is not that i wish to ignore you (i have no'one on my ignore list) it's that i would like to know that the one guest I am responding to is the same one i get a reply from.
<snip>
And again i reiterate this is only my personal opinion.
I acknowledge that it is inconsiderate if only because it makes a linear conversation interspersed at times with many guests hard to follow. And I think it is also inconsiderate in that this is in no small part a social community and social communities at their core, to be redundant, are built around mostly named people.

Steersman, I haven't encountered at the pit, many guest TERFs or even many guest rabid MRAs, but more and more I find myself a terrible judge of well, everything. But I wonder if that rapid MRA in your mind may be me. :/

No, not at all. I think youâ€™ve made some credible criticisms of various positions of AVfM â€“ certainly some evidence to think that theyâ€™re shooting themselves in the feet with some of them. Although I think you might have a bit of some problematic bias â€“ with maybe some justification.

But just a bit of hyperbole to emphasize the problems associated with two people with the same handle making frequently contradictory or inconsistent statements.

#17437

WonderistDelurking wrote:
jimthepleb wrote:Welcome wonderistdelurking...are you the wonderist we used to know and (searching for appropriate word)?
either way, welcome (back) and...
Fuck off.
Someone will be along shortly to provide you with a basket of lynx.
Yes, it's me, and no, I'm not 'back'. I've been lurking all the while, but as I stated (here: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=345) I will not be supporting this website in any way until the issues mentioned in the post are resolved. A big reason for lurking is to see if they were being resolved. So far, there is no sign that they have been. As I stated, I only delurked to point out the potential quote mine which had been missed by other commenters. I have logged out in order to make a 'guest' post for that purpose. Generally I stay logged in (though hidden) in order to keep track of unread vs read posts.

I think youâ€™ve made some good points, although one might suggest in a rather long-winded fashion. Which, coming from me, might be saying a lot. ;-)

However, I think you kind of started out on the wrong foot with that post you linked to:

Wonderist wrote:Without any objective reason, Lsuoma has relegated me to a single forum, preventing me from posting on the main thread, where nearly all of the discussion and lurking takes place.

Seem to recollect that Lsuoma gave you fair warning â€“ several of them if Iâ€™m not mistaken â€“ and credible justifications â€“ reasons â€“ to motivate you to change your posting style. Although I think he may have gone overboard somewhat â€“ easy to do in high seas â€“ in apparently exiling you for life; youâ€™ve obviously posted here again â€“ maybe heâ€™ll allow you to stay if you donâ€™t repeat the same â€œsinsâ€ â€¦.

#17438

KiwiInOz wrote:
Gefan wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Ahh -- finally, someone who can relate to the annoyance of stepping barefoot on stray finger-cymbals while going to the bathroom in the middle of the night!
Treading on Zills is the least of my worries. The closet in the study is completely filled with dance outfits and I've never dared learn their cost.
But you have tried them on, right? Right?

Alas, don't have the legs for it.

#17439

I said earlier what kind of situation I would stop and help. However if I saw this I would do nothing except keep walking:
[youtube]5DtJ6A0LDA0[/youtube]

#17440

The fires are spreading. In Australia, too. I just drop them for now...
Think Atheist: Rape, what people don't talk about
Gurdur: Antidotes for the poisons affecting #ScioX (Bora/Zvan topic)
AronRa: To the Critics of my Comments on Feminism

#17441

Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.

#17442

Aneris wrote:The fires are spreading. In Australia, too. I just drop them for now...
Think Atheist: Rape, what people don't talk about
Gurdur: Antidotes for the poisons affecting #ScioX (Bora/Zvan topic)
AronRa: To the Critics of my Comments on Feminism

Thanks for those.
All three are worth reading for different reasons.

The Think Atheist post by Belle Rose is useful in that it opens up the discussion over positive ways to tackle date rape - namely ways to deal with the reality of a situation where men (and women) are conditioned into accepting the 'playing hard to get' aspect of sexual relations. She suggests that developing a more assertive response from women may be useful in preventing unwanted sexual actions.

Gurdur correctly identifies the call-out culture, with prime offenders Svan and Thibeault up to their neck in it - with the inevitable consequence of Svan's recent debacle.

AronRa seems to have finally chugged down the koolaid and gone over to the dork side.
He has a sharp mind when dealing with creationists but that's like saying he's a champion sprinter when competing against snails.
When faced with a complicated topic like this he doesn't exactly show much more understanding than the average FTB commenter.
He seems determined not to understand the problems most people had with Atheism plus
"Because of one or two poorly-worded comments, they were seen as divisive and exclusionary. "

Really?

Not because it was founded with the explicit idea of dividing the community and excluding those who didn't bow down before it?

And his explanation as to why he now discards the word egalitarian in favor of the word feminist to describe him sounds incredibly strained (apparently egalitarian means communist! - and feminists are all in favor of equality apart from a tiny minority like Valerie Solanas.)

#17443

Brive1987 wrote:Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.

Have you checked the multiple cached versions in the wayback machine?

http://web.archive.org/web/201105010000 ... istory.org

#17444

Brive1987 wrote:Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.

Can you tell me your thoughts on the HBO movie "Conspiracy". I watched it for the first time a couple of weeks back.

In case you haven't seen it:

[youtube]tPIctGbAZEQ[/youtube]

I thought it was amazing but, given that the Wannsee Conference was one of the relatively few exceptions to the Nazi practice of keeping meticulous records of everything, it's hard for me to get a sense of how accurate it was.
Hopefully, you can help fill me in on that.

What was staggering to me was how perhaps history's greatest crime was reduced to a bureaucratic problem. Most notable was Colin Firth (as Wilhelm Stuckert) arguing that this was entirely the wrong way to go about it, largely because it trampled all over the Nuremburg laws that he'd worked really hard on drafting.
It was surreal to watch.

#17445

Aneris wrote:The fires are spreading. In Australia, too. I just drop them for now...
Think Atheist: Rape, what people don't talk about
Gurdur: Antidotes for the poisons affecting #ScioX (Bora/Zvan topic)
AronRa: To the Critics of my Comments on Feminism

So I guess AronRa has finally gone full FTB potato.

"For example, I never said women deserved special treatments. In fact, I said that even according to the leader of the feminist movement, they did NOT deserve special treatments"

That's all well and good and all but what someone says is vastly different from how they act and how the group as a whole tends to act. For example, if a Muslim were to say "We don't want special treatment in America" and then goes on to advocate for things like separate laws for Muslims and non-Muslims so they can live their lives religiously would still be advocating special treatment.

"Can anyone cite for me any instance wherein women are granted superior status?"

If you want to talk about things women have that men don't, laws banning circumcision.

" Or when men are deprived of rights in order to benefit women?"

Pretty much every domestic abuse law is biased toward women despite statistics showing both sexes to get relatively equal amounts of abuses.

"Because I have even heard female feminists arguing that it is sexist to save the women and children first."

And I've heard creationists argue that they are in support of science and are practicing good science. Saying one thing and then going the complete opposite direction are two different things and it's surprising that someone like AronRa who has dealt with that exact kind of behavior in his videos can't see it.

#17446

jimthepleb wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:One for the slymepit knitters (I think that's just BarnOwl!)

Lousy Canuck links to the following Etsy shop for all your woolly feminist ally needs.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/GlitzKnitsBout ... item-count
Although not a knitter I know a frightening amount about yarn. My wife, both my sisters-in-law and my mother-in-law are all mad for knitting and my brother has a business importing Alpaca and bamboo yarns into Europe from China and South America. So if you ever need a pattern or two barn owl, gi' us a shout.

I knit all the time..it's great PT for arthritic hands..

so uhm..is your brother married? Alpaca and bamboo..divine

are the SJW on ravelry...I used to visit the atheist group there until the Shermer story broke...then I became an RA..

#17447

Dick Strawkins wrote: AronRa seems to have finally chugged down the koolaid and gone over to the dork side.
He has a sharp mind when dealing with creationists but that's like saying he's a champion sprinter when competing against snails.
When faced with a complicated topic like this he doesn't exactly show much more understanding than the average FTB commenter.

"On the matter of the chromosomal difference between men and women, and the criticism against anyone who says that men are genetically half-female, I know the biology too well to say otherwise; itâ€™s true. Not all facts are comfortable ones."

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/200H/i/ ... oberts.jpg

Do we have a challenger for "men are testosterone poisoned women"? Teach the controversy!

#17448

Tigzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
The baboons have evolved into Mandrills just as I had predicted.
The next logical step will be hipster horn rimmed glasses being shooped onto the colorful butts.
It all fits into Darwin's plan. Evolution is occurring on the internet as we observe. :ugeek:

and up comes the coffee and out the nose...

#17449

Steersman wrote: Seem to recollect that Lsuoma gave you fair warning â€“ several of them if Iâ€™m not mistaken â€“ and credible justifications â€“ reasons â€“ to motivate you to change your posting style. Although I think he may have gone overboard somewhat â€“ easy to do in high seas â€“ in apparently exiling you for life; youâ€™ve obviously posted here again â€“ maybe heâ€™ll allow you to stay if you donâ€™t repeat the same â€œsinsâ€ â€¦.

As far as I can recollect Lsuoma lifted Wonderbore's exile after only a few hours, after simmering down and reconsidering. The Bore is not exiled. Monotonous little fucker can stay away though; he deliberately pushed everyone's buttons - basically trolling - to the point where the large majority got heartily tired of his tedious and interminable self-serving shite. The colossally boring turd has only himself to blame.

#17450

"On the matter of the chromosomal difference between men and women, and the criticism against anyone who says that men are genetically half-female, I know the biology too well to say otherwise; itâ€™s true. Not all facts are comfortable ones."

I beg to differ.

Perhaps AronRa has been reading Valerie Solanas:
"The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes."

Of course, patriarchal biologists claim that men have a Y chromosome that has an incomplete set of genes, but what do they know?

#17451

mary (abbie's ilk) wrote:
jimthepleb wrote:Although not a knitter I know a frightening amount about yarn. My wife, both my sisters-in-law and my mother-in-law are all mad for knitting and my brother has a business importing Alpaca and bamboo yarns into Europe from China and South America. So if you ever need a pattern or two barn owl, gi' us a shout.
I knit all the time..it's great PT for arthritic hands..

so uhm..is your brother married? Alpaca and bamboo..divine

are the SJW on ravelry...I used to visit the atheist group there until the Shermer story broke...then I became an RA..

Speaking of alpacas: Paca Plus.

Our protagonist, Saeki Kazuma, and his girlfriend, were spending a fun school life surrounded by plenty of friends.

Then one day, Kazuma and his girlfriend, Izumi Yukari, went to the Alpaca Kingdom together.
When Kazuma woke up from his nap on the bus back home, he looked to the side and saw his cute...

"...Wait, whaatttttttttt!!!!"

Yukari, who should've been sitting there, had disappeared,
and in her place was a single fluffy wuffy alpaca, sitting on the bus seat.

"Wh-what's wrong, Kazuma-kun? You suddenly yelled..."

The alpaca looking quizzically at Kazuma had clearly spoken in the same tone that his lover, Yukari had.

And thus began Kazuma's sudden summer with an alpaca.

#17452

Suet Cardigan wrote:
"On the matter of the chromosomal difference between men and women, and the criticism against anyone who says that men are genetically half-female, I know the biology too well to say otherwise; itâ€™s true. Not all facts are comfortable ones."
I beg to differ.

Perhaps AronRa has been reading Valerie Solanas:
"The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes."

Of course, patriarchal biologists claim that men have a Y chromosome that has an incomplete set of genes, but what do they know?

Or, maybe he's arguing that humans are haplodiploid??

#17453

Gefan wrote:
Can you tell me your thoughts on the HBO movie "Conspiracy". I watched it for the first time a couple of weeks back.

In case you haven't seen it:

[youtube]tPIctGbAZEQ[/youtube]

I thought it was amazing but, given that the Wannsee Conference was one of the relatively few exceptions to the Nazi practice of keeping meticulous records of everything, it's hard for me to get a sense of how accurate it was.
Hopefully, you can help fill me in on that.

What was staggering to me was how perhaps history's greatest crime was reduced to a bureaucratic problem. Most notable was Colin Firth (as Wilhelm Stuckert) arguing that this was entirely the wrong way to go about it, largely because it trampled all over the Nuremburg laws that he'd worked really hard on drafting.
It was surreal to watch.

Conspiracy is one of my favorite films. I honestly think it stomps all over Downfall, because it's even more subtle and chilling. It seems to me a very realistic look at how the true societal monsters operate. The acting is top-notch for a TV movie released several years ago, but it's to be expected of Kenneth Branaugh.

Unrelated AronRa rant:

AronRa: There was a lot of animosity against A+ when they formed. Because of one or two poorly-worded comments, they were seen as divisive and exclusionary.

AronRa's little article on feminism contains so many half-truths, outright lies and willfully ignorant arguments that it's laughable. "A few bad arguments?" That's the only reason people didn't like A+? Uh, no it fucking wasn't. Dammit Aron, all you have to do is a little goddamn research to disprove your own arguments. Just go to the A+ forums and lurk for a few weeks. Shit, lurk for a few days. See what toxic people you're calling allies. But no, because like creationism or anything else, all people on The Good Side are The Good Guys.

I hope I never end up like that. I try to call out all of the bullshit arguments I see, whether from people I agree with or from folks I disagree with. Sometimes I just get tired of doing this and let the nonsense slide, but I never forget that I didn't agree with 'em. It's the reason I can't make myself like AVfM, The Wooly Bumblebee or JonTheOther. They sound too much like ideologues and they're always pushing the line between egalitarian and outright having their own victim narratives and privileged/oppressed conspiracy theories.

I guess even the best of us (I would have included AronRa in that category a year or two ago) can be blinded by ideology. It's a reminder of the importance of applying skeptical principles outside of science. And above all, making sure a political movement's stated goals actually match its achieved and future goals. Which is rarely the case for most movements, but especially for 3rd wave feminism.

#17454

Gefan wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.
Can you tell me your thoughts on the HBO movie "Conspiracy". I watched it for the first time a couple of weeks back.

In case you haven't seen it:

[youtube]tPIctGbAZEQ[/youtube]

I thought it was amazing but, given that the Wannsee Conference was one of the relatively few exceptions to the Nazi practice of keeping meticulous records of everything, it's hard for me to get a sense of how accurate it was.
Hopefully, you can help fill me in on that.

What was staggering to me was how perhaps history's greatest crime was reduced to a bureaucratic problem. Most notable was Colin Firth (as Wilhelm Stuckert) arguing that this was entirely the wrong way to go about it, largely because it trampled all over the Nuremburg laws that he'd worked really hard on drafting.
It was surreal to watch.

Thanks for that. I will watch (haven't seen it). Yes they were lucky to get a copy of the protocol, watered down and "committeeish" as it was. The less formal but more contextual evidence came from Eichmann.

I was aware that the ongoing tension between the desire to maximise the economic pragmatic value of Jews vs the ideological imperative of 'cleansing' Europe was raised. I would be surprised if the Nuremberg Law issue came up as a critical point though. The occupation of Poland, parts of Russia and the entry of America into the war had radicalised Jewish policy well beyond that envisaged in 1930s Germany. There were questions raised about mixed blood and marriages and the best approach there especially with regards German Jews (nobody would care less about the Ukranian angle say). I'd assume this was Stuckart defending his interior patch and looking to oil water there and have input. Peripheral to the main game.

That said its probably only because of the protocol surviving and Eichmans trial that the conference has such significance. It didn't set policy, only communicated it and established business rules with mid level operatives. The real decisions had already happened and the policy was well and truly underway in occupied Russia.

Thanks again for the link.

#17455

Out of interest here is the English translation of the protocol http://prorev.com/wannsee.htm

Here are the Eichman transcripts. Check out session 100. http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eic ... ex-04.html

#17456

I really like Aron. This isn't quite enough to make me dislike him, but he has lost some status in my eyes.

I know that despite his friendship with PZ he's refrained from involving himself in the various big dramas in the past. I had assumed he was simply shrewd enough to avoid having his loyalties called into question, especially since he's remained friendly with Thunderfoot.

I dunno. I still want to like him. He seems well-intentioned.

#17457

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.
Have you checked the multiple cached versions in the wayback machine?

http://web.archive.org/web/201105010000 ... istory.org

Thanks I will have a look. It was like my Wikipedia had been turned off. :shock:

#17458

Brive1987 wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just doing some holocaust research. Big interest of mine, with a history/archaeology degree with a minor in Semitic studies (don't ask) I am very interested in the practical evidence supporting the Holocaust. Especially the Operation Reinhard Camps.

There is some good stuff here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... _4489.html

I am gutted though that holocaust-history.org seems to have closed Down. They had some amazing articles forensically reconstructing the camps (Michael Bay) plus I think it was there that there was an equally amazing examination of the evidence from all directions for the holes in Crem2 roof. Damn.

Oh and they also hosted the full "technique and operation of the gas chambers" by Pressac.

Damn and bugger.

Have you checked the multiple cached versions in the wayback machine?

http://web.archive.org/web/201105010000 ... istory.org
Thanks I will have a look. It was like my Wikipedia had been turned off. :shock:

OMG it's there!!! xxxxxxxx :dance: :clap:

Thank you.

#17459

Sunder wrote:I really like Aron. This isn't quite enough to make me dislike him, but he has lost some status in my eyes.

I know that despite his friendship with PZ he's refrained from involving himself in the various big dramas in the past. I had assumed he was simply shrewd enough to avoid having his loyalties called into question, especially since he's remained friendly with Thunderfoot.

I dunno. I still want to like him. He seems well-intentioned.

He's like a damn holocaust denier with this "I don't see anything but a few poor arguments" bullshit (haha, okay that's hyperbolic of me). He has pulled this argument out more than once, while giving no charity to interpretations of political opponents' positions. He wants people to forgive his friends for any crazy nonsense they say, while interpreting what others say in the most unfair way possible. He denies any bad behavior on the part of the main FTBloggers, even when they're fucking apologizing ON FTB for their bad behavior!

http://www.globalwealthprotection.com/w ... o-Evil.jpg
"Sexism, doxxing, threats, harassment, attempts to get people fired and racism against people who don't agree with Peezus? I don't see any of that on Freethought Blogs! We're about equality!"

He probably is still a nice guy, but I just want go up to him and say "ARE YEH FUCKIN' BLIND, MATE?!?" At first, I thought his "SJW feminism is just equailty" shtick was honest confusion from a genuine gender egalitarian. But he's ignoring what the SJWs are actually doing and pushing for while preaching that all they are is *equality.* He's pulling a Matt, and even if you shoved his face in the truth of the naming and shaming campaigns (Svan), "teach men not to rape" male reeducation camps (sorry, I mean college seminars) and FTBloggers actually telling real rape victims not to report to police because cops are abusive misogynists, I don't think he'd see it. I mean, the guy has had plenty of time to find out what they're all about. Maybe he needs to really pull a Matt and go anonymous so he can see how they behave when they don't know who they're talking to. Could be everyone kisses his ass, and so he likes them because they kiss his ass.

I give Dillahunty shit for his reaction to being treated horribly by those SJW nutters, but at least he had the intellectual honesty to go anon and try to find the truth. Shame that when he found it, his brain couldn't handle the overload and the shock turned his beard pink.
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#17460

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Before
http://www.michaelnugent.com/wp-content ... /01/MD.jpg
During
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After
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