Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[free thoughtpolice]

Now that it appears the Pit has solved the Israel-Gaza conflict perhaps we should turn our attention to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Putin: Great leader or dangerous lunatic? Czar Putin or Ras Putin?
Stern leader or corrupt crony? Stalin or Stealin?
Discuss. :ugeek:

[Gumby]

Now that it appears the Pit has solved the Israel-Gaza conflict perhaps we should turn our attention to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Putin: Great leader or dangerous lunatic? Czar Putin or Ras Putin?
Stern leader or corrupt crony? Stalin or Stealin?
Discuss. :ugeek:

Screwdriver.

[jugheadnaut]

Now that it appears the Pit has solved the Israel-Gaza conflict perhaps we should turn our attention to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Putin: Great leader or dangerous lunatic? Czar Putin or Ras Putin?
Stern leader or corrupt crony? Stalin or Stealin?
Discuss. :ugeek:

Screwdriver.

Putin: Vodka or orange juice?

[bovarchist]

The new FTB logo is just so wrong, in all the right ways. It perfectly sums up their repressive attitudes, lack of self-awareness and complete tone-deaf cluelessness. You literally cannot look at it without thinking "STOP freethought". Did NOBODY point that out before it was approved?

Despite having not visited here in a long time, I immediately had to see if it was being mocked in the Pit. You guys didn't disappoint.

PS, the latest Surlyramics look like something you'd find at the bottom of a spittoon, or maybe the floor of the dugout at Yankee Stadium.

[James Caruthers]

$48 (plus shipping?) for those abominations is insane. Surly has gone full-blown scammer, imo. Hurlyramics indeed, those don't look at all like constellations and look more like the leavings after a frat party.

From the handcrafted pendant category:

$47US (and what I'm guessing she was going for):

https://img0.etsystatic.com/038/0/82770 ... 6_dj3d.jpg

$45US (or perhaps this):

https://img1.etsystatic.com/019/0/82770 ... 9_c19z.jpg

I'm no handmade jewelry expert, but I know you don't have to pay $48 to get something attractive.

The two alternatives you listed are far superior to hurlyramics.

The new FTB site design is balls, but most site redesigns since 2010 or so have been horrible downgrades imo. The focus on development for smart phones has led to downgrading features in favor of that sleek appleesque design that's so popular nowadays.

YMMV

[deLurch]

Just thought y'all might enjoy this:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/opinion/r ... index.html

Thanks -- am enjoying the comments.

The Bill Burr video referenced in the editorial.

[youtube]AlvvCYUDHrQ[/youtube]

[Gumby]

It reminds me of Animal Farm, where the contributions of Snowball as a leader of the revolution were progressively diminished in the official history until eventually they disappeared entirely.

Or when Hitch died and the FtB crowd fell all over each other damning him with faint praise. I saw so many contemptuous sneering comments starting with some variant of "Yeah, he could write well, but..." I could pretty much tell most of them were just itching to say "I'm glad the fucker's dead".

Just imagine the feeding frenzy if Dawkins were to keel over today. Peezus would write a post with a few token sentiments followed by a bunch of the usual drivel about how out of touch Dawkins was and how now the community can now more fully move forward. His commenters would pick at Dawkins' bones for months, with barely concealed glee fully evident in many of the usual suspects' words.

Yep, that's the group of bloggers and hangers-on that think of themselves as the Smart Kids Club, the future of humanism and atheism. *shudder*

[Kenteken]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/wp-content/ ... s/logo.png

Just say no to the spades?*











*for the fuckwits a satire disclaimer.

[LurkerPerson]

The dictator for life (as far as I can see) that invaded and annexed the lands of neighbouring sovereign country in order to defend his "race" from a western backed, neo-fascist zionist (???) ethnic cleansing, violating the disarmament treaty they had signed which was ultimately worth nothing more than toilet paper? I'm sure he's a swell guy.

[katamari Damassi]

I LOVE the new FTB! I feel like the logo is stopping me on the street and asking to see my citizenship papers.

[Tribble]

It reminds me of Animal Farm, where the contributions of Snowball as a leader of the revolution were progressively diminished in the official history until eventually they disappeared entirely.

Or when Hitch died and the FtB crowd fell all over each other damning him with faint praise. I saw so many contemptuous sneering comments starting with some variant of "Yeah, he could write well, but..." I could pretty much tell most of them were just itching to say "I'm glad the fucker's dead".

Just imagine the feeding frenzy if Dawkins were to keel over today. Peezus would write a post with a few token sentiments followed by a bunch of the usual drivel about how out of touch Dawkins was and how now the community can now more fully move forward. His commenters would pick at Dawkins' bones for months, with barely concealed glee fully evident in many of the usual suspects' words.

Yep, that's the group of bloggers and hangers-on that think of themselves as the Smart Kids Club, the future of humanism and atheism. *shudder*

Remember, he was very, very anti-Islam which is conflated with racism in their tiny little brains. Plus he was a bit of an old warhorse as was quite clear that 'no woman of his was going to work, that his job as a man...'

[Dick Strawkins]

How about we should start using their new logo as a sign for "STOP"?


http://i.imgur.com/42CIZdl.jpg

Think it over. ;)

[jugheadnaut]

It looks like the those vomitous Surleys representing constellations are not a new experiment. Here's an older one for the constellation Pegasus:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/51856 ... 0_hvhi.jpg

And look, there's a cranberry in this one! :lol:

Seriously, though, are her friends really that hesitant to give her criticism? Or do they think she'll dissolve into tears again?

[James Caruthers]

It looks like the those vomitous Surleys representing constellations are not a new experiment. Here's an older one for the constellation Pegasus:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/51856 ... 0_hvhi.jpg

And look, there's a cranberry in this one! :lol:

Seriously, though, are her friends really that hesitant to give her criticism? Or do they think she'll dissolve into tears again?

I see Amy had just finished enjoying a milkshake before, um, "crafting" this constellation.

[deLurch]

Why is the FTB shop selling books by Hitchens? (or at least profiting off people following the Amazon link)
I thought they hated him?
Perhaps they haven't divided the section into the final format yet.

A. Books to read
B. Books to burn

http://i.imgur.com/tKMOpcv.jpg

Because Ed is trying to make money.

[Southern]

Now that it appears the Pit has solved the Israel-Gaza conflict perhaps we should turn our attention to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Putin: Great leader or dangerous lunatic? Czar Putin or Ras Putin?
Stern leader or corrupt crony? Stalin or Stealin?
Discuss. :ugeek:

I think this video will answer all you need to know about Putin:

[youtube]ZT2z0nrsQ8o[/youtube]

[jugheadnaut]

OK, someone with the mad Photoshop skillz has got to do an Amy Roth interpretation of Starry Night.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

It seems relatively easy and I'd consider trying it as a beginner's project, but I don't want to ruin it with incompetence.

[jet_lagg]

OK, someone with the mad Photoshop skillz has got to do an Amy Roth interpretation of Starry Night.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

It seems relatively easy and I'd consider trying it as a beginner's project, but I don't want to ruin it with incompetence.

Aren't we not supposed to be doing shops any more? Dawkins frowns on that :)

[SkepticalCat]

Here is another view of the necklaces...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt5blRVIIAArdr_.png:large

$48?
Each one is like <$.50 of materials.
There is the firing cost, time to mass produce them, cost of the Swarovski Crystals...
But frankly, the rhinestone chain is the most expensive part of it.

etsy shop
https://www.etsy.com/shop/surly?section_id=12451663

If Surly Amy wants to emphasize the constellations rather than the astrological signs, then she should be using the names "Scorpius" (as opposed to "Scorpio") and "Capricornus (as opposed to "Capricorn"). There are no constellations named "Scorpio" or "Capricorn". :angry-nono: :character-burgerking:

[Tribble]

If Surly Amy wants to emphasize the constellations rather than the astrological signs, then she should be using the names "Scorpius" (as opposed to "Scorpio") and "Capricornus (as opposed to "Capricorn"). There are no constellations named "Scorpio" or "Capricorn". :angry-nono: :character-burgerking:

You're not really expecting attention to detail, are you?

[Darth Cynic]

I don't really care all that much about the new drapes they put up but I am as befuddled as others as to what the heck that hand is supposed to be about. It instantly, to me at any rate, evokes an impression of suppression, the big paw coming down to shove the camera, microphone or irksome person away, to push and silence dissent, to stop. I cannot reconcile that hand image with the concept of freedom of thought, the idea and image seem worlds apart. Regards that prescriptive, proscriptive and shunning lot it's an appropriate image but they think themselves a shining light and not ideologues. I doubt the intent was to signal the subtle irony of their brand name so what are they trying to convey with that image? While I'm at it the atom symbol on the header of each section also seems to make little sense.

As for the 'FTB Favourites' in reading material, well aaah... where is the magnum opus, a tome years in the crafting that took the literary world by storm upon release, the blog anthology The Happy [cracks me up each time] Atheist? I looked just to be sure it wasn't merely on another page of the shop, but no those four are the favourites in total. I'm sure they won't be long in making sure the most important work of atheist literature is listed, however, I just think it's mildly amusing that it was missing at the beginning while the lesser Hitchens was listed.

Oh and I came up INTJ, I'd have actually got in when relevant but it took a while to catch up; those bouncing Jennekes severely retarding progress.

[Dick Strawkins]

OK, someone with the mad Photoshop skillz has got to do an Amy Roth interpretation of Starry Night.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

It seems relatively easy and I'd consider trying it as a beginner's project, but I don't want to ruin it with incompetence.

Aren't we not supposed to be doing shops any more? Dawkins frowns on that :)

She already has one in her Etsy shop.
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/1894 ... ery=starry

https://img1.etsystatic.com/029/0/51856 ... 9_fypf.jpg

[free thoughtpolice]

OK, someone with the mad Photoshop skillz has got to do an Amy Roth interpretation of Starry Night.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

It seems relatively easy and I'd consider trying it as a beginner's project, but I don't want to ruin it with incompetence.

Aren't we not supposed to be doing shops any more? Dawkins frowns on that :)

She already has one in her Etsy shop.
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/1894 ... ery=starry

https://img1.etsystatic.com/029/0/51856 ... 9_fypf.jpg

OMG! I had to look twice before I realized it wasn't the original! :o

[jugheadnaut]

OK, someone with the mad Photoshop skillz has got to do an Amy Roth interpretation of Starry Night.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

It seems relatively easy and I'd consider trying it as a beginner's project, but I don't want to ruin it with incompetence.

Aren't we not supposed to be doing shops any more? Dawkins frowns on that :)

She already has one in her Etsy shop.
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/1894 ... ery=starry

https://img1.etsystatic.com/029/0/51856 ... 9_fypf.jpg

It looks like she appropriated the name 'Starry Night', but I can't see any interpretation of Van Gogh's piece in there. It does look like her earlier constellation efforts were better. Not good, mind you, but coherent and not complete shit. She claims the flower-stars are meant to represent Orion, but she botched that entirely. How does an artist of any level of competence screw up the most recognizable constellation in the sky after the Dippers? (Yes, I know the answer to that)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 8_huge.jpg

[Dick Strawkins]

http://i.imgur.com/fHHzZ6N.jpg

[SkepticalCat]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/169873712/ ... rkle-surly[/quote]
... why the fucking snot on everything that's supposed to be space? I don't get it... or well, I get that it's supposed to be the milky way or nebulae or something like that, but surely even Amy realize that it turned out to look mostly as if Bill Hicks coughed up half a lung worth of phlegm over her stuff?
I just don't get it...[/quote]

It might make some sense to represent the Milky Way in that fashion, as that is often done in celestial cartography:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... map-fr.png

However, the Milky Way passes through only four of the Zodiacal constellations - Taurus, Gemini, Scorpius, and Sagittarius. Nebulae are few and far between (and generally small and faint). I don't really follow her intentions - attempting to depict the arrangement of stars within the constellations realistically, but then having some diffuse glow in the background in a completely unrealistic manner.

As for the individual constellations her representations leave much to be desired. Only "Scorpio" [sic] would I call a good representation of the actual shape. Gemini, Libra, Aquarius, and Sagittarius are nearly unrecognizable. She has inserted random stars where none exist and omitted others, and has not distinguished between bright stars and faint ones by using different sized crystals (or whatever they are). Please consult an atlas for your future efforts, Amy. :snooty:

[feralandproud]

From Pee's latest:

David Marjanović says
1 August 2014 at 12:25 pm
If this is the case THEN WHY THE NAME THE INDEX AFTER A WOMAN!!?
Good catch!
Now that you mention it, it looks to me like trying to say if you tweet to much, you’re more like a woman than like a scientist while deploring that very attitude. Fail.

It's like a never-ending game of "six degrees of separation", only instead of person-to-person, they play person-to-ism.

[Git]

If Surly Amy wants to emphasize the constellations rather than the astrological signs, then she should be using the names "Scorpius" (as opposed to "Scorpio") and "Capricornus (as opposed to "Capricorn"). There are no constellations named "Scorpio" or "Capricorn". :angry-nono: :character-burgerking:

You're not really expecting attention to detail, are you?

And Ophiuchus too of course.

[jugheadnaut]

While it looks like FtB was explicitly going egalitarian with respect to their bloggers in the new design, I wonder how long it will be before the "B" team (Stephanie, Ophelia, and Greta) complain privately that they don't get the exposure they used to? It wouldn't surprise me at all if in a month or two there's a "Featured Bloggers" pane and/or certain bloggers automatically get prioritized up in the subject lists (for all I know, that's already the case).

I'm just getting it out there so I can say 'called it' later. :)

[Git]

From Pee's latest:

David Marjanović says
1 August 2014 at 12:25 pm
If this is the case THEN WHY THE NAME THE INDEX AFTER A WOMAN!!?
Good catch!
Now that you mention it, it looks to me like trying to say if you tweet to much, you’re more like a woman than like a scientist while deploring that very attitude. Fail.

It's like a never-ending game of "six degrees of separation", only instead of person-to-person, they play person-to-ism.

I can't actually think of anything more sexist than the pedestalling that Marjanović is engaging in.

Humans are often flawed. And that includes WOMEN too!

Unless women are toilets or something.

But I've come across some pretty flawed toilets in my time...

[Dick Strawkins]

From Pee's latest:

David Marjanović says
1 August 2014 at 12:25 pm
If this is the case THEN WHY THE NAME THE INDEX AFTER A WOMAN!!?
Good catch!
Now that you mention it, it looks to me like trying to say if you tweet to much, you’re more like a woman than like a scientist while deploring that very attitude. Fail.

It's like a never-ending game of "six degrees of separation", only instead of person-to-person, they play person-to-ism.

Could it be that she happens to be the prime example at present, of someone who is famous for nothing more than being a celebrity, and that her name, and that of her family, is synonymous with empty celebrity culture?

For example, if the pharyngulite horde had a memory longer than that of a goldfish with alzheimers, they might realize that PZ Myers himself wrote a post entitled: "10 things about Kim Kardashian’s sideboob that you won’t believe" all of one fucking day ago.
:doh:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... t-believe/

[deLurch]

$48 (plus shipping?) for those abominations is insane. Surly has gone full-blown scammer, imo. Hurlyramics indeed, those don't look at all like constellations and look more like the leavings after a frat party.

It isn't a scam. She is delivering exactly what she promises.

[katamari Damassi]

While it looks like FtB was explicitly going egalitarian with respect to their bloggers in the new design, I wonder how long it will be before the "B" team (Stephanie, Ophelia, and Greta) complain privately that they don't get the exposure they used to? It wouldn't surprise me at all if in a month or two there's a "Featured Bloggers" pane and/or certain bloggers automatically get prioritized up in the subject lists (for all I know, that's already the case).

I'm just getting it out there so I can say 'called it' later. :)

Good point! Oafie's copy pasta posts will get buried unless she adopts the tabloid style headlines Peez just mocked.

[feralandproud]

holy shit...
http://www.thelocal.se/20140731/race-to ... egislation

From the article:

"We know that different human races actually do not exist," Swedish Integration Minister Erik Ullenhag told Sveriges Television (SVT).

"We also know that the fundamental grounds of racism are based on the belief that there are different races, and that belonging to a race makes people behave in a certain way, and that some races are better than others."

[deLurch]

It looks like the those vomitous Surleys representing constellations are not a new experiment. Here's an older one for the constellation Pegasus:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/010/0/51856 ... 0_hvhi.jpg

And look, there's a cranberry in this one! :lol:

Seriously, though, are her friends really that hesitant to give her criticism? Or do they think she'll dissolve into tears again?

I see Amy had just finished enjoying a milkshake before, um, "crafting" this constellation.

Surly Bulimics?

[jugheadnaut]

From Pee's latest:

David Marjanović says
1 August 2014 at 12:25 pm
If this is the case THEN WHY THE NAME THE INDEX AFTER A WOMAN!!?
Good catch!
Now that you mention it, it looks to me like trying to say if you tweet to much, you’re more like a woman than like a scientist while deploring that very attitude. Fail.

It's like a never-ending game of "six degrees of separation", only instead of person-to-person, they play person-to-ism.

Of course, the index is named after the Kardashians because they are women. It couldn't possibly be because the Kardashians are the most obvious case in history of people whose public exposure dwarfs actual accomplishments by orders of magnitude. And that this is the exact thing this index is trying to measure. Complete coincidence, I'm sure.

[Random Lurker]

She already has one in her Etsy shop.
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/1894 ... ery=starry

https://img1.etsystatic.com/029/0/51856 ... 9_fypf.jpg

centipede.gif

(3.84 KiB) Downloaded 185 times

[spiffigt]

Did anyone see the video in question and can give the cliff notes (video and slapdown)? I saw the video come up in my subscription feed but never watched it... :(

[Tribble]

From Pee's latest:

David Marjanović says
1 August 2014 at 12:25 pm
If this is the case THEN WHY THE NAME THE INDEX AFTER A WOMAN!!?
Good catch!
Now that you mention it, it looks to me like trying to say if you tweet to much, you’re more like a woman than like a scientist while deploring that very attitude. Fail.

It's like a never-ending game of "six degrees of separation", only instead of person-to-person, they play person-to-ism.

Of course, the index is named after the Kardashians because they are women. It couldn't possibly be because the Kardashians are the most obvious case in history of people whose public exposure dwarfs actual accomplishments by orders of magnitude. And that this is the exact thing this index is trying to measure. Complete coincidence, I'm sure.

Yes. Like Paris Hilton, they're famous for being famous.

[welch]

And she wonders why people react to her with hostility...

At this point, she's a clickbaiting troll.

[Dick Strawkins]

And she wonders why people react to her with hostility...

At this point, she's a clickbaiting troll.

Suey Park and Bhaschat do the same things except target their trolling towards 'white people' (Bhaschat had a tweet today saying that white people don't wash!)

[welch]

Retry:

Whereas sucking someone's life out of their skull is completely not gross.

Hmm. I must be in reverso-world.

There was an expose written about her organization the other day, showing that it had tackled the case of one of their team (a transgendered woman) who was recently accused or rape, by deleting all reference to that individual on their site and completely ignoring the issue.
In other words Ophelia Benson level hypocrisy in which someone on your own team does exactly what you spend every day railing about, and your prime response is to pretend it never happened.

Link?

[deLurch]

Real or Satire? Make your guess from the video alone.

[youtube]2HruwVGO-20[/youtube]

[jugheadnaut]

And she wonders why people react to her with hostility...

At this point, she's a clickbaiting troll.

While reading about the "Model View Culture" troubles that were posted earlier, I noticed that that twitter picture is a real picture of her. I had presumed it was some kind of CG representation. Between her and Hensley, is there some new trend among radical SJW's toward Uncanny Valley portraits using inch deep makeup that obscures contrast and blank expressions?

[sinister]

Well this is certainly going well for the CFI.

[Badger3k]

human rights lingo is so booooooooooooooring. you must hate jews! you're for human rights! fuck off you tribal minion.

Oh by the way. Since "Israel critics", Neo-Nazis and Muslims are marching the streets of Europe for a common cause, the question whether you folks are rabid jew-haters, isn't really an honest question anymore. It's confirmed observation of reality.

And since Hitler liked cats, the question of whether or not cat lovers are Nazi's isn;t a question anymore, it's a confirmed observation of reality.

Hopefully your comment was a poe or satire. If not, you're an idiot.

[jugheadnaut]

There was an expose written about her organization the other day, showing that it had tackled the case of one of their team (a transgendered woman) who was recently accused or rape, by deleting all reference to that individual on their site and completely ignoring the issue.
In other words Ophelia Benson level hypocrisy in which someone on your own team does exactly what you spend every day railing about, and your prime response is to pretend it never happened.

Link?

http://thecharnelhouse.org/2014/07/29/d ... e-problem/

[LurkerPerson]

Given the description for the video is "You might be privileged if the only thing you have to complain about is people on the internet calling you privileged" I'm going to guess satire.

[James Caruthers]

http://i.imgur.com/fHHzZ6N.jpg

Don't insult Bubble Jewelry by comparing it to Hurlyramics.

The pieces you can create with that set look a lot more attractive.

[James Caruthers]

$48 (plus shipping?) for those abominations is insane. Surly has gone full-blown scammer, imo. Hurlyramics indeed, those don't look at all like constellations and look more like the leavings after a frat party.

It isn't a scam. She is delivering exactly what she promises.

Well played, sir. I suppose you are correct.

A better question is why people in a depressed economy feel that $50 for ceramic puke is a price worth paying.

But then, the prevalence of Patreon, Kickstarter and Indiegogo is proof of the old adage about a fool and xir money.

[James Caruthers]

Real or Satire? Make your guess from the video alone.

[youtube]2HruwVGO-20[/youtube]

Comments and ratings blocked.

There's your answer.

I've yet to see a SJW satire video that blocked either of those things.

[James Caruthers]

Well this is certainly going well for the CFI.

I know, right?

One thing I can't deny is that Melody is bringing more publicity to CFI. :lol:

[Aneris]

still plenty fun to be had mocking ray comfort too

[youtube]YYL7nsUX37s[/youtube]

Excellent as usual.

[katamari Damassi]

Well this is certainly going well for the CFI.

I don't know why this brightened my day. I guess it is the little things in life that matter.

[sinister]

Real or Satire? Make your guess from the video alone.

[youtube]2HruwVGO-20[/youtube]

You can tell it is legit because the comments and ratings are disabled. That's how it's done.

[Badger3k]

Why is the FTB shop selling books by Hitchens? (or at least profiting off people following the Amazon link)
I thought they hated him?
Perhaps they haven't divided the section into the final format yet.

A. Books to read
B. Books to burn

http://i.imgur.com/tKMOpcv.jpg

I would have thought Happy Atheist would figure prominently.

[Badger3k]

Here is another view of the necklaces...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt5blRVIIAArdr_.png:large

$48?
Each one is like <$.50 of materials.
There is the firing cost, time to mass produce them, cost of the Swarovski Crystals...
But frankly, the rhinestone chain is the most expensive part of it.

etsy shop
https://www.etsy.com/shop/surly?section_id=12451663

$48 dollars for that? Maybe the idea of polishing cat turds and selling them would actually work, assuming people buy these things...

[jugheadnaut]

Well this is certainly going well for the CFI.

I don't know why this brightened my day. I guess it is the little things in life that matter.

In my case, it was imagining the look of shock and panic on her face as she read that. Ah, schadenfreude! It's a nasty thing but sometimes I'll take my pleasure where I can get it. :)

[jugheadnaut]

Real or Satire? Make your guess from the video alone.

[youtube]2HruwVGO-20[/youtube]

You can tell it is legit because the comments and ratings are disabled. That's how it's done.

DING! DING! DING!

[Badger3k]

The redesign also broke the direct links to individual comments in the sidebar. Their tech people are top fuckin' notch, I tells ya.

Canuck will fix it in no time at all! :lol: