Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[Easy J]

I think SJW's are happy to call themselves social justice activists (or advocates). I'll also sometimes use the term when I'm trying to be rigorously neutral, but I think this gives them too much credit, since it's a very particular version of social justice they're advocating for.

I prefer 'identity politics activists' as a neutral term. The main problem is that many people don't know what that it means. It's also not an exact fit, but I think it's close enough. Social justice Marxists is an accurate term, but obviously 'Marxist' comes with a lot of baggage. Even if SJW's privately would embrace the term, they definitely don't want it used as a general description and would probably play the McCarthyism card if it is used this way.

Funny that you're mentioning Marxists. Someone at Michael Nugent's blog posted the Wikipedia article for "entryism". See if you can spot the similarities with SJW tactics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism

I think SJW's are happy to call themselves social justice activists (or advocates). I'll also sometimes use the term when I'm trying to be rigorously neutral, but I think this gives them too much credit, since it's a very particular version of social justice they're advocating for.

I prefer 'identity politics activists' as a neutral term. The main problem is that many people don't know what that it means. It's also not an exact fit, but I think it's close enough. Social justice Marxists is an accurate term, but obviously 'Marxist' comes with a lot of baggage. Even if SJW's privately would embrace the term, they definitely don't want it used as a general description and would probably play the McCarthyism card if it is used this way.

Funny that you're mentioning Marxists. Someone at Michael Nugent's blog posted the Wikipedia article for "entryism". See if you can spot the similarities with SJW tactics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism

This is part of the reason I keep referring to this stuff as Cultural Marxism like I'm a paranoid old fogey. SJWs not only subscribe to the same ideology but more importantly, they use exactly the same tactics to colonize spaces (universities were the original goal). There seems to be a playbook that goes with the ideology & the moves are easy to recognize. They seem to have a good run of it until a community recognizes the pattern.


Does anyone know of any good books or videos about Cultural Marxism that aren't produced by Cold War-era Reaganites or religious nuts from the 80s?

[James Caruthers]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

[deLurch]

This one in particular was a winner:

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p= ... tcount=569

... I was one who wanted more detailed information. That someone important might have done something that might or might not have been rape isn't something I can form conclusions on. That Shermer raped a woman so drunk she couldn't walk (and all the other details) is something I can sink my teeth (and claws!) into. ...

In that case, how'd she get in and out of Shermer's room? :think:

Alternate possible cause: it is possible to fuck someone so hard and long and well that they have trouble walking.

[Tapir]

Been mentioned already but....obvious 'puppet-master defense'....

That’s why I was nice in the e-mail – I didn’t want him to put together what I was doing. I actually laughed when I saw that he was using that e-mail as evidence, because I so carefully crafted it to not sound like I was up to anything. It’s actually proof OF what happened – not against it – and for a brief, wild moment I found that funny.

....is very obvious.

[windy]

I don't think this is a case of regretting sex. And I don't think it is a purely malicious accusation. I think it's a classic case of an alcoholic blackout that occurred during a dime-a-dozen drunken convention party hookup.

I plan to write more about the entire topic of alcoholic blackouts in the near future.
Watch this space.

This story of blackout sex by a Swedish feminist (!) could be instructive (original in Swedish):

http://sourze.se/2005/03/02/utga-inte-f ... B7njPw2f4Y

In the middle of the night I woke up in the neighbor's bed. In the midst of the act, with the neighbor on top and inside me. Since it was not unpleasant, I continued the play. The neighbor used protection so there was nothing practical to be worried about. It never occurred to me that I could have been exploited. When hangover began to make itself felt, I got up and gathered my clothes. I remember that he was sleeping when I snuck away.

I spent New Year's Day with my best friend in bed. After breakfast, she put on the video from the party. I was afraid that I would see myself embarrassingly drunk, vomiting, and then unconscious. Instead, I saw myself happy, social, talkative and brilliant all the way to midnight. I had even celebrated the New Year. I saw that the neighbor and I had been flirting in the early evening. Actually, I had been more interested in his friend, but one can't have everything. No one could have seen that I was so drunk that I wouldn't remember anything. I could well have been capable of crashing the neighbor's place and asking him to have sex with me.

[BlueShiftRhino]

To be honest I'm not as concerned about the potential damage to the "atheist movement" (which is limited) as I am about the damage of SJW-inspired laws.

^ This to the 100th power.

Secularists still had a lot of work to do, at least in the US. But now we must also worry about over-reaction laws and policies from the SJL, too. Just look at the sexual-assault policies of some US universities (e.g., if both are drunk or for whatever reason neither had consent, the male raped the female only). They are blatantly in violation of Title IX, just as many religion-based laws are in violation of the 1st A. And yet more are written each day.

[Lsuoma]

IIRC, he is actually a she, and she is not a piiter, although she has no time for the SJW bullies.

I keep getting auto-permabanned and can't stay logged in on a VPN for some reason.

Just want to say that IACB is a bloke; you'll have to take my word for it though as the evidence I have is a 'dox'.

Also I personally don't like being called a "pitter" or whatever. This just a forum - I've posted on numerous forums in my time and none of them form any part of my identity. It doesn't mean I support or endorse any particular post here - I agree with what I agree with and disagree with what I disagree with. Some posts I like, others I think are garbage - just like with any forum. You might as well call me a 'faith-head' or similar, because I used to argue with Christians on the "Faith Forum".

Send me your IP address from whatsmyip.org

[Git]

Yes, this is all textbook Entryism by Cultural Marxist. The US Progressive movement (and its UK Equivalent - the Fabians) are infested with adherents of Gramsci. This whole thing has nothing to do with click-bait, but rather creeping totalitarianism.

[Git]

Cultural Marxists. There's more than one, despite how much the Lord Peezus wishes it.

[bhoytony]

Been mentioned already but....obvious 'puppet-master defense'....

That’s why I was nice in the e-mail – I didn’t want him to put together what I was doing. I actually laughed when I saw that he was using that e-mail as evidence, because I so carefully crafted it to not sound like I was up to anything. It’s actually proof OF what happened – not against it – and for a brief, wild moment I found that funny.

....is very obvious.

She's so Machiavellian. She then lulled him into a false sense of security by not mentioning it for five years.

[Hunt]

On PZ's latest Shermer post, a clarification:

So by Shermer’s account, she could drink him under the table and was totally sober, but we have witnesses that she was so drunk she needed to be wheeled out of the hotel?

No, "we" don't. Even by Smith's own words (on the JREF forum) these witnesses may not even realize any of this speculation is happening. Smith has stated that she hasn't contacted them and won't. "We" (whoever we is) don't have jack. Apparently, Smith or Oppenheimer (or both) have the ability to contact them, but nobody knows if they ever will.

So if a no-one knows if a witness will ever come forward, does the witness make a sound when she falls wearing white, pooping in the forest?

[comhcinc]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

I actually had a book that had something like that in my sociology class. My (black female) teacher called that b.s.

/there is hope.

[HunnyBunny]

Alex Gabriel is a twat. Yes, I know this is not news, but the level of his twattery is mind blowing.

for starters

what a twat

Now the main course:

http://web.archive.org/web/201409211524 ... lees-lies/

He is bitching on his 'blog' about Richard Dawkins...again, in some mind-numbing ego rant in which he assumes this tweet from Dawkins:

means this :

Dawkins has railed nonstop about bloggers like me and Lee ‘faking outrage‘ for money.

You twat, as if Dawkins even gives a kid like you a second thought...except to wonder at what the hell has happened to the education standards that an Oxford education leads to such depths of stupidity. Secondly, a couple of tweets on the subject does not equate to railing non-stop. The only idiots going non-stop on this whole 'we hate Dawkins' tirade reside over at FTB.

At least in my case, calling him out doesn’t get half the traffic now it got a year ago because readers are used to it

This is because your blog is a boring piece of backstabbing nastiness. Everyone gets tired of that eventually. You have nothing new to say, you just repeat the same old tired, trite 'Dawkins is a white cishet old man, GTFO'.

The rest of the article is just quotes from Lee's hatchet job, tweets from Dawkins, and sneering from Gabriel. The comments are depressingly familiar.

[BlueShiftRhino]

Dear Horneck: go learn what an error bar is, why it may not be either available, or the not most useful measure in these circumstances, and why you haven't provided any estimate of error despite your claim to have done so. You might also consider why the two estimates of the prevalence of rape you give differ by an order of magnitude - that's usually just a failure to replicate. So knock yourself out finding out about all the other sources of error you missed. Also, BSRhino will be along in a second to explain how useful Bayesian methods are.

Nah. I have no problem with Hornbeck using Bayes. I'm still stuck on the implicit and explicit use of stats based on the Normal when the data are untransformed proportions. You have to at least arcsin-sqrt before starting the analysis, so the error-bars aren't symmetrical. And then you need to note that we've move a long way beyond plain-old SEs. In fact, in honor of our resident Frenchmen, may I suggest Cousineau error-bars, instead?

[Kirbmarc]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

Women NEVER hold any political, institutional or economic power. NEVER. Not when they're CEOs, or college professors, or dean, or famous journalists, or they host a talk-show. Not when they're elected to a position of power, not when they're filthy rich, not even when they're a prime minister of a nuclear power (yes, a nuclear power).

Women are, and have always been, completely powerless and oppressed. Therefore EVERYTHING they do is right. Even a male genocide wouldn't be sexists. It'd be "punching up".

[James Caruthers]

IIRC, he is actually a she, and she is not a piiter, although she has no time for the SJW bullies.

I keep getting auto-permabanned and can't stay logged in on a VPN for some reason.

Just want to say that IACB is a bloke; you'll have to take my word for it though as the evidence I have is a 'dox'.

Also I personally don't like being called a "pitter" or whatever. This just a forum - I've posted on numerous forums in my time and none of them form any part of my identity. It doesn't mean I support or endorse any particular post here - I agree with what I agree with and disagree with what I disagree with. Some posts I like, others I think are garbage - just like with any forum. You might as well call me a 'faith-head' or similar, because I used to argue with Christians on the "Faith Forum".

Doesn't matter. Once you've posted in the 'pyt, you will always be treated as chaos 'pyt spawn by FTB and the various affiliates.

[bhoytony]

Yes, this is all textbook Entryism by Cultural Marxist. The US Progressive movement (and its UK Equivalent - the Fabians) are infested with adherents of Gramsci. This whole thing has nothing to do with click-bait, but rather creeping totalitarianism.

Exactly, the Fabians included hard Left commie bastards like Tony Blair who want to bring down western democracy and introduce a totalitarian socialist state.

[BlueShiftRhino]

Thing is, if Eisen were evaluating PeeZus' track record for promotion/tenure or for a research grant application, he'd nail him to the fucking wall for lack of publications. That's the metric that's used to assess "contributions to science" in academia, particularly in the field of evo-devo that Myers claims, and it's dishonest to pretend that PeeZus is still active or relevant in that arena.

Fuck.

Since joining The Pit about two weeks ago, I've had one grant rejected (even with a score of 1.8) and one paper come back needing another experiment. I did manage to get two new papers into the system and was interviewed by a pop-psych magazine, but my countable contributions were zero.

I hate you all.

But I also laugh at you folks who've been at this for years and are only on Level 2 of the Block Bot. You're doing it wrong.

[JacquesCuze]

Congratulations on being literally the only person I have ever run into who complains about ballgame and daran and compares them to BD, and who, in addition is not a feminist.

Thanks for your kind words about our blog. I've had an encounter with JacquesCuze before, or if not him, someone with the same combination of hostility toward us and inability to utter a sentence about us without it containing a factual error. To summarise:

As you note, by default, everyone is allowed to comment in either of the dual threads. The purpose of the parallel thread is to give us more moderation options. On a few occasions we have restricted particularly truculent individuals (both feminist and non-feminist) to the parallel threads. On a few occasions we have temporarily restricted the main thread to bloggers and a single individual - not always a feminist - in order to allow the bloggers to have a focused discussion with them.

You have never (to my recollection) suffered a sanction worse than having a comment moderated because you make a good faith effort to comply with our requirements. Moderator action is only required on those occasions when your passion gets the better of you. There are a range of more severe measures we can and will take against against less cooperative guests up to and including outright banning. These are unusual. We have sometimes banned feminists.

When I defend my blog in third-party spaces, it is to correct factually inaccurate and misleading statements about it. I do not say "we're the good guys".

Fuck off. You're an asshole, your blog is a failure. Your mod policies are shit. You are not helping anyone.

I've told you that before, I will tell you that now, and anyone who asks as well.

[James Caruthers]

Conspiracy Time

So I am was trying to be a good little pitter and earn my badge. I went to sigh up at the JREF forum after Brive1987 called us pussies for not helping out in his thread. Anyway I got a response back today.

http://i.imgur.com/wcD0uR5.jpg

Now I know for a fact I had all the fields filled out because I didn't the first time and it made me fill them out before I went forward.
So I am pretty sure that is not the reason.

Now if you notice I used the same handle that I used here and twitter and everywhere else.I am very transparent. Took a couple of days for this to happen. It was not automatic.

Discuss

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If you roll into Imperial space in your tainted Space Hulk, you should expect the servants of the false god to shoot you down on sight.

[James Caruthers]

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Edit: Image didn't display, here's a different one, chaos brother.

[BlueShiftRhino]

Now we are Nazis. Even PZ.

Not to mention that the correct analogy would be "defining Catholics by Nazis."

[BlueShiftRhino]

Oh and this is the admin's brother

http://stumblesthroughparenthood.com/wp ... nmoon1.jpg

Ninja's by hours, I have been.

Note to self: when you first log in after sleeping for 8 hours, read first and post second.

[JacquesCuze]

Update from Alison Smith that she sent to PZ Myers for him to publish on pharyngula:

It wasn’t actually the next day that I left Shermer’s room. The entire amount of time that passed between me asking someone to come get me after leaving the party and me calling again to say please come get me I need help and don’t know where I am was around two hours. Some commenters seem to think that I had some kind of morning after regret or something, but in actual fact I was calling it rape immediately.

The other part is – me asking Shermer to be on that panel for the Sex workshop wasn’t a reaction based upon victimization (like, it wasn’t that I was pushing aside how I felt about him in order to accomplish something; and I wasn’t in denial).

It was incredibly calculated – because I knew for an absolute fact that his views on consent were different from the other panelists. I had a rape crisis counselor on the panel as well, and I was hoping, as the moderator, to steer the conversation over to date rape. I wasn’t going to ‘Gotcha’ him or mention what happened or anything – I just honestly believed that he could stand to have that debate with someone, and maybe learn a thing or two. That’s why I was nice in the e-mail – I didn’t want him to put together what I was doing. I actually laughed when I saw that he was using that e-mail as evidence, because I so carefully crafted it to not sound like I was up to anything. It’s actually proof OF what happened – not against it – and for a brief, wild moment I found that funny.

Next time, she needs to learn about sending

+ sealed enveloped to herself with postmarks
+ emails to friends
+ text messages

Because her explanation of why she invited Shermer to the panel in the manner she did surely does not fit Occam's razor

[James Caruthers]

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[BlueShiftRhino]

If somebody has to be pushed in a wheelchair, because they are so drunk, her friends should call an ambulance.

The wheelchair claim is a huge make-or-break, in my opinion. That's something that would be noticed.

As to the idea that she was calling it rape from the git-go - that, too, is rather important. Many folks argue that not reporting a rape to the authorities is a type of rape-apology or -enabling. While I'm not one to go that far, as I know it's traumatic, I do ask for consistency on this sort of thing.

[bovarchist]

I doubt this went down well actually:

He "."ed her. :lol:

Ophie's on the period?

[JacquesCuze]

Oh. I do have a question of the Pit.

Popehat doesn't like the label Social Justice Warrior or SJW, he thinks it's a slur.

What do social justice warriors call themselves? What is a twitter friendly (ie short) name for them? (That is not a slur).

I don't think Popehat has done his homework, he thinks both sides are the same in many ways, which demonstrates he hasn't done his research, but what do social justice warriors call themselves?

I don't think it's feminists, though I myself do think of the social justice league as Septic Feminists, I would think they think they are more than just feminists.

So what if Popehat thinks it's a slur? - anyone who can't properly name the Pope's hat(s) can't talk about slurs.

Anything you call this bunch of tossers wil be interpreted as a slur as soon as it become useful for them to do so. If they can't come up with an agreed definition for their ideology, and a proper name for themselves that applies to all members of the group, they should bloody well have to put up with whatever we call them for our convenience.

Well ignoring Popehat, it's sort of an interesting question. Not nearly as interesting as Wil Wheaton's career peak scene

[youtube]PA-mYIDJ2Hw[/youtube]

In this case, if Popehat thinks its a slur I do think it's up to him to provide an alternative, and I'd like to pin him on that, but I would like to know, because maybe I'm wrong, maybe the SJL has a preferred name.

Intersectionality Feminists, uh, no offense, well, it's not twitter friendly (short), sort of ugly sounding, and I don't think it's accurate, that is, I think they claim to be more than feminists, and I personally think they do intersectionality completely wrong.

I do like Warriors of Social Justice.

[jugheadnaut]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

I agree with the first sentence. If a person is espousing that one race or sex is superior to another, that person is just plain racist or sexist independent of what their race or sex happens to be. None of this 'reverse' crap.

It seems from the text that the author wants the word 'prejudiced' to be used when a person in an unprivileged group has such beliefs. But prejudice is actually a particularly pernicious expression of racism/sexism, where an individual is automatically judged to have the deficits ascribed to the racial/gender group they belong to. It's quite consistent and relatively benign (but still asshole-ish) to be racist but not prejudiced, where one believes bad things about the group as a whole but still thinks individuals of the group should be judged on their own merits.

[Parody Accountant]

Thing is, if Eisen were evaluating PeeZus' track record for promotion/tenure or for a research grant application, he'd nail him to the fucking wall for lack of publications. That's the metric that's used to assess "contributions to science" in academia, particularly in the field of evo-devo that Myers claims, and it's dishonest to pretend that PeeZus is still active or relevant in that arena.

Fuck.

Since joining The Pit about two weeks ago, I've had one grant rejected (even with a score of 1.8) and one paper come back needing another experiment. I did manage to get two new papers into the system and was interviewed by a pop-psych magazine, but my countable contributions were zero.

I hate you all.

But I also laugh at you folks who've been at this for years and are only on Level 2 of the Block Bot. You're doing it wrong.

I hit level 1 in my first few days of twitter. Reason: "Not a PTSD expert" (despite me being in the middle of a medical retirement from military with 90% disability rating, 70% of which for PTSD.)

[Really?]

https://8chan.co/pol/src/1411315322208.png

Holy shit, yo. Are you sure that's real? Because the current version of the piece makes the author and her friends seem a little less fucking evil:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

[BlueShiftRhino]

Yeah, from what I can tell, getting in Melody's face about PTSD is the best way to make Level 1 quickly. It's almost like having a cheat-code for a new game. And, in my case, I'm merely some stats nerd who helped revise the DSM, so what do I know about diagnosing?

[sinister]

Hi Michael,

The title of your article, “Adam Lee’s misleading Guardian article about Richard Dawkins” is clearly phrased to generate prejudice in readers. Therefore everything you say can be ignored.

Cheers,

GMeters

PS: When one side posts about “this is a pattern of sexist statements from X” and the other responds “Witch hunts! Thought police! Big Sister is watching!” then yeah, it’s quite accurate to portray one side as rational and the other as snarling.

Over at Nuget's blog we learn that the biased title of Adam Lee's article makes it worthless, no wait. I think we once again learn it is only ok when they do it.

[James Caruthers]

I doubt this went down well actually:

I just checked his twitter and it looks like he has woken up to the dishonesty of FTB.

Welcome to the slymepit
we've got fun and games
we've got everything you want
we even known Oolon's name
we are the people with male priv
who mansplain all your needs
if you've got white privilege, honey
we've got your disease

in the slymepit
welcome to the slymepit
won't you bring peez to his
nuh nuh nuh nuh knees!

[youtube]o1tj2zJ2Wvg[/youtube]

[BlueShiftRhino]

Hi Michael,

The title of your article, “Adam Lee’s misleading Guardian article about Richard Dawkins” is clearly phrased to generate prejudice in readers. Therefore everything you say can be ignored.

Cheers,

GMeters

PS: When one side posts about “this is a pattern of sexist statements from X” and the other responds “Witch hunts! Thought police! Big Sister is watching!” then yeah, it’s quite accurate to portray one side as rational and the other as snarling.

Over at Nuget's blog we learn that the biased title of Adam Lee's article makes it worthless, no wait. I think we once again learn it is only ok when they do it.

I actually thought that GMeters had a good point, albeit snarkily expressed. But I promised myself not to stick my nose in another of Nugent's comment sections.

[Kirbmarc]

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It's a Poe, isn't it?

[sinister]

Hi Michael,

The title of your article, “Adam Lee’s misleading Guardian article about Richard Dawkins” is clearly phrased to generate prejudice in readers. Therefore everything you say can be ignored.

Cheers,

GMeters

PS: When one side posts about “this is a pattern of sexist statements from X” and the other responds “Witch hunts! Thought police! Big Sister is watching!” then yeah, it’s quite accurate to portray one side as rational and the other as snarling.

Over at Nuget's blog we learn that the biased title of Adam Lee's article makes it worthless, no wait. I think we once again learn it is only ok when they do it.

I actually thought that GMeters had a good point, albeit snarkily expressed. But I promised myself not to stick my nose in another of Nugent's comment sections.

I don't see the point? How are you supposed to title a blog about a dishonest article? "Please read this article about another I read"?

[JacquesCuze]

http://i.imgur.com/oBlPmxN.jpg

A selection of my Top Greatest Sins
https://storify.com/The_Block_Bot/303635804

I really do like the hashtags #ToxicFeminism (which complements their hashtag of #ToxicMasculinity) and #SepticFeminism to describe the feminist invasion of skeptic circles.

[Gumby]

Yeah, from what I can tell, getting in Melody's face about PTSD is the best way to make Level 1 quickly.

Not necessarily.

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[BlueShiftRhino]

I don't see the point? How are you supposed to title a blog about a dishonest article? "Please read this article about another I read"?

I took GMeters' comment to be pointing out hypocrisy, not proscriptive on titling in general. One of Michael Nugent's main arguments was that the article in question framed things in a biased manner; Nugent may even have brought up the title of the article. Therefore, in this (one) case, Nugent's title should have been neutral.

Please note that I found Nugent's piece to be quite fair, as usual. But it wasn't perfect and I think that GMeters found a small flaw. And note, also, that one of the deeper themes to what Nugent is doing is pointing out that folks need to be a bit more self-critical and open to criticism. So I hope that Nugent accepts GMeters' criticism at face value, even if I also happen to believe that GMeters is a disingenuous fad-wad.

[Gumby]

Hi Michael,

The title of your article, “Adam Lee’s misleading Guardian article about Richard Dawkins” is clearly phrased to generate prejudice in readers. Therefore everything you say can be ignored.

Cheers,

GMeters

PS: When one side posts about “this is a pattern of sexist statements from X” and the other responds “Witch hunts! Thought police! Big Sister is watching!” then yeah, it’s quite accurate to portray one side as rational and the other as snarling.

Over at Nuget's blog we learn that the biased title of Adam Lee's article makes it worthless, no wait. I think we once again learn it is only ok when they do it.

I actually thought that GMeters had a good point, albeit snarkily expressed. But I promised myself not to stick my nose in another of Nugent's comment sections.

Good point or not (I for one don't agree he had a good point, as Michael Nugent is freely expressing his opinion in that title), GMeters immediately descends into typical FtB-style bullshit, claiming that those who oppose his side have no arguments other than “Witch hunts! Thought police! Big Sister is watching!” type shite. Another SJW who apparently has never read the internet for the last three years.

[bovarchist]

If somebody has to be pushed in a wheelchair, because they are so drunk, her friends should call an ambulance.

That's victim blaming. How dare you apply common sense to the actions of others.

But really these people never just admit they did something stupid. You know just "yeah I was so drunk my drunk friends that to push me in a wheelchair. It was a mistake, should have gone to the hospital".

Judging by your avatar, you're asking to get raped, in the wheel-well.

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Yeah, I'm horrible, any excuse to present a dragon sexing up a car. I have no excuse for that, or the cat pix.

One wonders why the airbags haven't gone off. I guess it takes a little time to get there.

[jugheadnaut]

Smith making it sound like her inviting Shermer to speak on that panel was all part of some master plan - a new "detail" that occurred after many people had skeptically noted that her email inviting Shermer to said panel was very bright and cheery given her original allegations - sounds like clumsy retconning to me.

I think that she's now trying to frame the e-mail as proof of her allegations, rather than support for Shermer, is a small bit of evidence in favor of retconning. How could anyone in their right mind think this was proof of rape? If she's willing to falsely frame it, it makes it more likely to me that she's inventing a false interpretation to begin with.

And here's something frankly inconsistent in her interpretation. She claims she wanted to educate Shermer. But isn't sending a bubbly, friendly note to her rapist likely to have the opposite effect? Couldn't he easily conclude that what he's doing is no-harm, no-foul and just reinforce that it's OK?

[Guest]

The person who was on the phone both before and after was willing to be quoted on the two hour timeline.

This was Jeff Wagg, her boyfriend at the time (and boss at JREF).

So she was able to walk with Shermer from one hotel to another, but then as soon as her boyfriend catches her cheating on him she is suddenly so drunk she needs a wheelchair.

Right...

[JacquesCuze]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

I agree with the first sentence. If a person is espousing that one race or sex is superior to another, that person is just plain racist or sexist independent of what their race or sex happens to be. None of this 'reverse' crap.

It seems from the text that the author wants the word 'prejudiced' to be used when a person in an unprivileged group has such beliefs. But prejudice is actually a particularly pernicious expression of racism/sexism, where an individual is automatically judged to have the deficits ascribed to the racial/gender group they belong to. It's quite consistent and relatively benign (but still asshole-ish) to be racist but not prejudiced, where one believes bad things about the group as a whole but still thinks individuals of the group should be judged on their own merits.

This comes from a semi-recent trend in sociology to consider

sex/rac ism = power + prejudice

So women can be prejudiced, but since women have no power it's only men who can be sexist.
Blacks can be prejudiced, but since blacks have no power, it's only, well, whites, who can be racist.

I mean, Michelle Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce, ... not withstanding. Those homeless vets on the street corners, they're the ones hoarding their power, the bastards.

I am wondering if these academic departments were always this terrible, and if academia is going to collapse on itself.

I actually do wonder what the role or responsibility of academics outside a specific department to criticize another department at their university. Apart from another Sokal, what responsibility do other academics have to the University and its students to point out the Emperor's New Clothes is filth?

[BlueShiftRhino]

As to getting to Level 1 on the Block Bot, it appears that it's difficult to move up. Where you first land is where you'll always be. Why? Because most users seem to set the filter to the lowest setting, so once you're anywhere on the lists, no-one will see your future transgressions.

Go big or go home.

[ReneeHendricks]

I'm still just a level 2: https://storify.com/The_Block_Bot/10965012. Apparently I haven't been nasty enough to warrant the really bad level. Of course, I've been pretty quiet lately. Clearly, I need to step up my game.

[comhcinc]

http://joshfinney.com/wp-content/upload ... noogin.gif
Yeah, I'm horrible, any excuse to present a dragon sexing up a car. I have no excuse for that, or the cat pix.

One wonders why the airbags haven't gone off. I guess it takes a little time to get there.[/quote]

The airbags would only go off if hit from the front.

/ I am only responding so we can keep this gif being posted over and over.

[BlueShiftRhino]

My attempt at trans-Atlantic humor:

http://joshfinney.com/wp-content/upload ... noogin.gif

Sure looks to me like that Golf fucks like a rabbit.

[Kirbmarc]

Alex Gabriel, e-beggar extraordinaire, is apparently a bit of a con artist, too:

Read about it here. Warning: FTB link.

[bovarchist]

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I've been snooping in various places and haven't caught up with the 'pyt yet, so I'll just leave this here.

Enjoy the death of the school system, guys.

I actually had a book that had something like that in my sociology class. My (black female) teacher called that b.s.

/there is hope.

But did she make the class tear that page out? ;)

[JacquesCuze]

I don't think this is a case of regretting sex. And I don't think it is a purely malicious accusation. I think it's a classic case of an alcoholic blackout that occurred during a dime-a-dozen drunken convention party hookup.

I plan to write more about the entire topic of alcoholic blackouts in the near future.
Watch this space.

This story of blackout sex by a Swedish feminist (!) could be instructive (original in Swedish):

http://sourze.se/2005/03/02/utga-inte-f ... B7njPw2f4Y

In the middle of the night I woke up in the neighbor's bed. In the midst of the act, with the neighbor on top and inside me. Since it was not unpleasant, I continued the play. The neighbor used protection so there was nothing practical to be worried about. It never occurred to me that I could have been exploited. When hangover began to make itself felt, I got up and gathered my clothes. I remember that he was sleeping when I snuck away.

I spent New Year's Day with my best friend in bed. After breakfast, she put on the video from the party. I was afraid that I would see myself embarrassingly drunk, vomiting, and then unconscious. Instead, I saw myself happy, social, talkative and brilliant all the way to midnight. I had even celebrated the New Year. I saw that the neighbor and I had been flirting in the early evening. Actually, I had been more interested in his friend, but one can't have everything. No one could have seen that I was so drunk that I wouldn't remember anything. I could well have been capable of crashing the neighbor's place and asking him to have sex with me.

Thanks for posting that. I am aware from wiki and other discussions that blackout drunk didn't mean unconscious but I've never seen it flatly stated that someone who is blackout drunk could very well act in a way such that others don't recognize that person cannot consent.

[James Caruthers]

As to getting to Level 1 on the Block Bot, it appears that it's difficult to move up. Where you first land is where you'll always be. Why? Because most users seem to set the filter to the lowest setting, so once you're anywhere on the lists, no-one will see your future transgressions.

Go big or go home.

Check your privilege, shitlord!

I continued receiving reports after my initial blocklisting. :naughty:

Still haven't managed to get my oppression levels up to your super saiyan levels, though. Stuck at level 2.

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[blitzem]

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Not sure who singing it.

Roger Daltrey, lead singer and professional microphone twirler of The Who.

You fell into my trap...mwahahahaha :twisted:

Sigh....I haz reading comprehension error. :(

(You heartless bastard :) )

[jugheadnaut]

This comes from a semi-recent trend in sociology to consider

sex/rac ism = power + prejudice

Absolutely. Tying this in with another discussion, this is cultural Marxism laid bare.

But they completely misuse the term 'prejudice' in that formulation. Prejudice has its own distinct meaning. In practice, it's worse than sexism/racism. So if a woman says she has gender prejudice but is not a sexist, she's in no way exonerating herself.

I wonder what word they would use to describe a woman who believes that as a group women are superior to men but still judges individual men on their own merits?

[bovarchist]

I really don't have the heart to kick Alex Gabriel when he's down. So he bought a desk and a bed. How can you fault him for that?

[jugheadnaut]

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It's a Poe, isn't it?

I don't think so. Remember, the primary goal of feminists isn't fairness or equality, it's advocating for policies that benefit women.

[Kirbmarc]

I wonder what word they would use to describe a woman who believes that as a group women are superior to men but still judges individual men on their own merits?

"Gender traitor".

All men are scum.

[JacquesCuze]

I really don't have the heart to kick Alex Gabriel when he's down. So he bought a desk and a bed. How can you fault him for that?

I sure can't, and I doubt the people who donated to him are upset with those purchases either.

[bhoytony]

I've had plenty of blackouts in the past. All it means is that you can't remember what happened, you don't act any differently, you just have no recollection of it. I've woken up with strange women before(sometimes very strange) and had no idea who they were, never mind what happened. I'm pretty sure sex occurred even though I don't remember, but I didn't immediately assume that they tied me up, gagged me with my pants and raped me senseless. That's how I see it now, maybe in a few years I might decide it happened differently and take my victimhood to some some mediocrity with a blog and spread the awful events.