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Post by katamari Damassi » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:51 am

Wow! Benson is an incredibly bitter old hag. Does she have anything positive to contribute to society? I work with terminally ill people who are less bitter even in their anger phase. And to think that Dawkins once thought he could work with that!

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Post by debaser71 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:55 am

U.S. centric post!

IMO atheism is a thing, right? It wasn't always. It took great effort to get atheism mainstream. How did we do it? To what do we attribute this great atheism awareness success story?

Anyway like I hinted at before in regards to the specifics of tentacle rape porn PZ, I don't really care. I care about SJWism and gender feminism in general. If anything I need to thank PZ and his crew of bullies for introducing it to me.

And I know Sean Faircloth (not in RL). He's alright but he talks sometimes too politically. And as you probably know he and Sam Harris had a few interesting discussions. But, again for me, I am not into atheism anymore; that battle has been won. Sean Faircloth was needed in 2004 maybe not so much in 2014. But YYMV and that's cool.

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:06 am

Sean's job is to be political, but I know what you mean. He's even running again for office right now, albeit a small job in Maine.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:23 am

windy wrote: My point is that such inaccurate criticisms make Matt's post much easier for outsiders to dismiss.
By all means point out this fine distinction in my comments thread. I'll even amend the OP to reflect that PZ Myers doesn't himself say "shove a rotting porcupine up your ass", rather merely eggs on his blog commentariat to do so. I'm sure that will fully exonerate PZ of being a foul-mouthed, combative asshole.

In a spirit of fairness, however, I will also have to include any examples people provide of PZ's actual banhammer verbiage.

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Post by TheMudbrooker » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:28 am

There's been a lot of talk lately about trying to get PZ fired from his job, but this is absolutely the wrong tack to take.

If you really want to fuck PZ over, we should be lobbying to get him promoted.

At best the worst that would happen if the UofM decided to get rid of PZ is he would be given early retirement, most likely with full benefits in exchange for not appealing the decision. But at this stage of his career the highest he would be promoted would be some low-level adminitrative job. Think about it, instead of his current position where he works a few hours a day, a few days a week with student assistants to do the bulk of his grunt work and has summers off, a promotion would land PZ behind a desk 9-5, five days a week, year around. That would cause PZ some genuine pain.

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Post by Really? » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 am

Guest wrote:
feralandproud wrote:Could someone who knows more than me answer a question? Going over clap-fatty's latest post about the horrible, evil, racist school newpaper The Minnesota North Star, I find this:
Reginald Selkirk
9 October 2014 at 3:08 pm
You know what else is public information?
The UM-Morris personnel directory. A search for [name redacted] only turns up two people, and one can be reasonably ruled out because it is a middle name. And it lists an e-mail address for the other one.
And the UM-Morris Student Organization Directory. The entry for The Morris NorthStar lists two [name redacted], one as Editor-in-Chief and the other as Publisher. There is also a [name redacted] listed as Managin(sic) Editor. Once again, e-mail addresses are listed for two of those.
(names redacted by me, better safe than sorry. also, I try to not be a festering dickhole just because I'm anonymous)

IANAL, so I was just curious if these named people would have any sort of case against either the university or the esteemed professor from any harassment caused by his internet bullshittery.
You know what else is public information? PZ's student mermaid fantasy. It would be interesting to see the impact on his course registration numbers if all those "rate my professor" sites included a link to it in his reviews.

I suppose that would be considered "harassment" by the SJWs, if done to PZ. With anyone else, of course, it would be "naming names and exposing misogyny and objectification of women."
Well, that's interesting. I haven't looked; I wonder if PZ's account of the sexual misconduct charge is on those sites.

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Post by Eskarina » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 am

Brive1987 wrote:Logic doesn't work. Call to emotion doesn't work. Maybe it's just your brain. I'm pissed off because this is actually a community and your failure to realise it is, well simply your failure.
Doesn't work on who? Maybe you're just pissed off because you realise this isn't a community. Especially not one that is eager to do your bidding.
Brive1987 wrote:And yes collective action would be better than individual action. But duh. You seem keen in others actions, so yes I've sent my wishes to Skep with a grateful reply. Maybe you could fucking do something positive as well.
I was talking about a Slymepit Stamp of Approval, not a nebulous "collective action". How many active members do we have at the moment? How many do agree with you? And who's stopping you from gathering like-minded people and do something instead of wasting your energy on replying to someone like me?

And again you're misrepresenting my words. I asked you if you asked Skep what she wants, not if you sent her some well-wishes.
Brive1987 wrote:But you're right about one thing. Time to stop trying to electro-shock this patient back to life. To bed.
To the grave!

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 am

Brive1987 wrote: It's funny. When Skeptickle got doxxed just after someone commented in another context 'dis her and you dis the pit' I actually thought we might as a community actually, oh I don't know, do something about it to ensure it never happens again.
Unfortunately, we have our own flavor of keyboard warrior here. Whenever there's a tipping point where something can be done, they will expend all the keystrokes in the world telling people what they did was wrong and the best way to do nothing. Of course, they will pay lip service to your own agency by saying "well, it's your own prerogative..." but really, that's bullshit, and they will deploy the ad hoc veto when they can.

I believe it's the apathetic chorus who were convinced that the best way to address Ben Radford's call for donations to continue his legal fight was to not do whatever the fuck it was I did.

Don't argue with them. If they want to do nothing, or play critic of whatever action other people take, why waste energy explaining it to them? They don't care. They know better. They just like to sit in judgment. They like typing. They suck the fucking air out of the room.
Eskarina wrote:I'm starting to believe that you are just as big an attention whore as Myers himself
No, that would be me honey. Give me a heads up the next time Brive tries to horn in on my schtick, kthnx.

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Post by piero » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:36 am

Tony Parsehole wrote:I Wake Up And Prepare My First Meal Of The Day.
By Michael Nugent.

Hello. I'm Michael Nugent, Chairman of Atheist Ireland.
This morning I woke up at 07:01 on Friday the 10th of October 2014 from a sleep of 8 hours 13 minutes.
After leaving my bed, left leg first, I performed my daily ablutions in the bathroom I own, blah bjah
tl;dr. First rule of satire: don't be boring.

So you'd like Michael Nugent to entertain you? Are you paying him for the service?

And yes, submissions to a UN committee are boring. OGSE human rights meetings are probably mindnumbingly boring too. Unfortunately, they are also extremely important, and Nugent should be thanked for undertaking such boring tasks. Anyone can write an e-mail to Morris; doing what Nugent does takes a bit more dedication.

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Post by paddybrown » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:39 am

A few points.

Firstly, we're into free speech here at the Pit. The goal should not be to silence PZ & Co or force them off the internet - it should be to discredit them. We want everyone to know they're nasty pieces of work and full of shit, that they don't represent atheism or the interests of gender equality within the atheist movement, and that they should not be taken seriously.

Secondly, it's not about being polite, or claiming the moral high ground. The Pit has always been unapologetically vulgar, scurrilous and fun, and one of the things it's all about is fighting for the right to have vulgar, scurrilous fun in the face of the humourless, sanctimonious, censorious, self-righteous fucking bluenoses of the SJL who want unquestioned deference to their idea of morality. It's about not going off half-cocked and giving them ammunition.

Dawkins has seen through the SJL, Nugent has seen through them, more and more people in the movement are realising how fucked up they are and are coming out against them. We don't need to change our tactics - they're working. We just need to keep going.

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:42 am

TheMudbrooker wrote:There's been a lot of talk lately about trying to get PZ fired from his job, but this is absolutely the wrong tack to take.
Yeah? Who has been talking about "getting PZ fired"?

No one who is actually doing anything, that's who.

What happened is discussion on informing the University of Minnesota (a student newspaper of he is now attacking from his blog) of PZ's crap behavior somewhere became reified, by fucking idiots, into "getting PZ fired from his job". And it is those fucking idiots who are the only ones talking about it, taking a brave stand against what no one proposed in the first place.

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Post by Eskarina » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:47 am

Mykeru wrote:
Eskarina wrote:I'm starting to believe that you are just as big an attention whore as Myers himself
No, that would be me honey. Give me a heads up the next time Brive tries to horn in on my schtick, kthnx.
Nah, dear, you're the martyr. I myself am very fond of Saint Sebastian. Probably something to do with all those phallic arrows.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:47 am

Snapfingers wrote:Tentacle rape connoisseur Biology Professor Paul Myers
Tentacle rape enthusiast PZ Myers
Tentacle rape loving biology professor Paul Myers
Tentacle rape PZ Myers, Morris Minnesota
PZ "Tentacle Rape" Myers
You know who is obsessed with tentacle Rape Porn? PZ Myers.

SEO experts? pls advise how we can get this Project Santorum up and running.
btw, do folks read the tags on my posts? There's always an easter egg or two.

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Post by pajh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:49 am

and the bullying continues with "favourites" and "retweets" - and I thought they all had blockbot!

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:52 am

This is for Pogsurf (on MN's blog):

This is the transcript of the phone-call (courtesy of Carrie Poppy) that PZ made to the AMA.

AMA: Hello. AMA complaints division.

PZM: Hi. I'd like to file a complaint against [redacted].

AMA: OK. Is [redacted] your physician?

PZM: No, she's a troll.

AMA: Ooooo-kaaay. And you're being treated by this ... um ... troll?

PZM: No, no, you don't get it. She's not a real troll; she's an internet troll. But she's also a doctor.

AMA: OK, so she is your physician.

PZM: Yes ... no ... I mean: she's a doctor, but not mine. But she diagnosed me on the internet.

AMA: Oh, you went to one of those Internet MD sites? Those aren't certified by the AMA. Most are in India, anyway. I can't really help.

PZM: No, no! She's an American doctor. She just diagnosed me based on stuff that I'd posted on my blog.

AMA: Oh. OK. And she did this as a practicing physician?

PZM: Yes! Exactly! [pause] Well, not exactly, really, but we know that she's a doctor eye-are-ell.

AMA: I'm sorry. Eye-are-ell?

PZM: In real life.

AMA: Ah, OK. So what's the problem?

PZM: Her diagnosis was wrong.

AMA: Well, as you know, all diagnoses are a best guess, based on what is known. [pause] How was her diagnosis incorrect?

PZM: She said that I had the clap. I didn't.

AMA: Well, that's a difficult diagnosis to make without blood-work. On what basis did she do this?

PZM: Because of a pain in my knee.

AMA: Well, that is one of the symptoms. Anything else?

PZM: That I'd been to a conference.

AMA: Well, again, until some people started agitating and took the fun out of conferences ... you'd be surprised.

PZM: But she posted about it! She said I had the clap! My students and trophy ... um, wife might see it!

AMA: Ah. Now I understand your concern. When did she, um, post about this.

PZM: Back when it happened.

AMA: Which was when?

PZM: Quite a while ago.

AMA: ... but you're complaining now.

PZM: Yes. Because someone linked to it.

AMA: Linked?

PZM: Posted a blog about me and included a link to the diagnosis.

AMA: ... the diagnosis that [redacted] had made as your doctor?

PZM: She's not my fucking doctor! She's a 'Pitter! A troll!

AMA: Please, sir. Language. [pause] A 'Pitter?

PZM: A SlymePitter. They're misogynist shitlords.

AMA: Please. Really, sir.

PZM: No. 'Shitlords' is what they call themselves. It's some kind of badge of honor to them

AMA: ... but you allowed her to continue as your doctor, anyway?

PZM: She was never my fucking ... sorry, not fucking doctor!

AMA: Then I don't see the issue.

PZM: She made it seem like I'd gotten the clap at a conference!

AMA: ... because you returned from a conference with the symptoms of gonorrhea.

PZM: Only some of them! And it wasn't the clap. I can prove it, too.

AMA: OK. But did [redacted] actually say that you had gonorrhea or only that you had symptoms consistent with gonorrhea?

PZM: She said that I had it! [pause] Well, not explicitly. But it was clear what she meant.

AMA: ... and this all happened a while ago, but you're bringing it to our attention now because someone made a blog-post about it.

PZM: That and a whole bunch of other stuff.

AMA: Also from [redacted]?

PZM: No. Other stuff. The mermaids. The hentai. The doxxing. All there reguly bullshit.

AMA: Please...

PZM: Sorry. It just pisses me off. I'm the Fifth Horseman, you know. And zebrafish ... that was my idea, too. Why do this do this?

AMA: [silence] Do I even want to know about the mermaids, hentai, doxxing - whatever that is - and other four Horsemen ... ?

PZM: Three.

AMA: I'm sorry?

PZM: Three other Horsemen.

AMA: Ah. I must have misheard. I thought you said that you were the fifth.

PZM: I am, but one of them died.

AMA: I'm so sorry. [pause] Was [redacted] his or her doctor, too?

[dial tone]

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Post by TheMudbrooker » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:52 am

Mykeru wrote:
TheMudbrooker wrote:There's been a lot of talk lately about trying to get PZ fired from his job, but this is absolutely the wrong tack to take.
Yeah? Who has been talking about "getting PZ fired"?

No one who is actually doing anything, that's who.

What happened is discussion on informing the University of Minnesota (a student newspaper of he is now attacking from his blog) of PZ's crap behavior somewhere became reified, by fucking idiots, into "getting PZ fired from his job". And it is those fucking idiots who are the only ones talking about it, taking a brave stand against what no one proposed in the first place.
And just what effect are you expecting haranguing PZ's employers about what a naughty boy he has been to have? That he'll be made to go stand in the corner?

Read the rest of the post and quit being a quote mining jackoff.

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Post by piero » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:52 am

Mykeru wrote:Unfortunately, we have our own flavor of keyboard warrior here. Whenever there's a tipping point where something can be done, they will expend all the keystrokes in the world telling people what they did was wrong and the best way to do nothing. Of course, they will pay lip service to your own agency by saying "well, it's your own prerogative..." but really, that's bullshit, and they will deploy the ad hoc veto when they can.

I believe it's the apathetic chorus who were convinced that the best way to address Ben Radford's call for donations to continue his legal fight was to not do whatever the fuck it was I did.

Don't argue with them. If they want to do nothing, or play critic of whatever action other people take, why waste energy explaining it to them? They don't care. They know better. They just like to sit in judgment. They like typing. They suck the fucking air out of the room.
That's very unfair. DIsagreeing with your proposed action does not make one apathetic. On the contrary, I am enraged with Skep Tickle's doxxing, and I welcome any suggestions for effective action that will:
a. not jeopardise Skept Tickle's job
b. reduce the impact of FTB bloggers within the A/S community

As things stand now, I think we should be discussing how to help Skep Tickle should the need arise. In the worst-case scenario, she'll need financial support. Best way of ensuring that?

As for FTB bloggers, their worst nightmare is becoming irrelevant. They are emboldened by their perceptions of themselves as chieftains of the hordes of righteousness. How can they be reduced to a footnote in Wkipedia's entry for atheism? I'd suggest contacting Michael Nugent and suggesting to him that he contacts Dawkins, Harris, Blackford and other sane prominent atheists in order to agree on a common policy concerning the lunatic fringe. For example, if Richard Dawkins refuses to shafre a platform with, say, Greta Christina, whom do you think the organisers will choose?

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Post by comhcinc » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:53 am

Okay here are my thoughts on this whole doxxing business and what, if any response should be. (About 4.82 cents worth)

I am fond of saying I have no pride and even less morals. When I say that I am lying. I do have a good amount of pride and plenty of morals. In fact I probably have more that most. I just say that because I have thought hard about these subject and have took the time to really define them. As such my pride and morals tend to be different than most. I am not going to get in to how different because I am thinking about writing a blog about it for a couple of years that I will then turn into a book and hopefully sell it to everyone. So with all that in mind this is where I stand.

Doxxing is wrong. Anyone who doxs someone is wrong. If you dox someone you are a piece of shit.

Business and personal lives are two different things. I don't think contacting the college about PZ is right. The bullshit he does on his private time should not affect his ability to provide for his family. Now with that said I don't see PZ's speaking at conference to be business. He doesn't do it full time (does anyone?). So I am more than happy to inform conference organizers of my objection of paying PZ to speak due to his personal awful awful awful shit of a human behavior. Any one want my help in that matter just let me know. You can send me a pm, email, of a twitter message if you don't want to post it publicly (which I think it the wiser choice, keep things quiet best you can).

As to the idea that some have had about "fighting fire with fire" and "an eye for an eye". I don't agree with that. Not one bit. I understand that PZ did. I understand that it may effect skep tickle's job. That doesn't make it okay in my book. And I am not going to be one of these "I am not going to tell you what to do". Don't do it. Don't do what PZ did. If you do I will be right there talking about how awful of a person you are.

Make jokes, photoshop, do little poems. Be better. N


Now I am going back to Skyrim( why didn't someone tell me about this game?)


Oh by saying "PZ" I mean the dirty awful lot of them. I am only using his name for as shorthand.

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:55 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Anyone can play the way they want. The gloves are off. I will not for one second take a dislike to anyone here not agreeing with a more offensive response.
It's not about like, or dislike, for me. It's about things we already know do not work versus keeping the social pressure which is giving some indications that it's working. And while it's a slow process, it's a process by which people move from the 'wrong' side (Myers and his quasi-totalitarian SJW bullshit) to the right side (actually giving a fuck about enlightenment values, skepticism, and the free exchange of ideas (even if they're stupid ones)).

Making especially slow is Myers had a HUGE cachet of good-will in the community when he was running rough-shod over the creationists. It's only when he ran out of creationists and turned his bitterness on 'his side' did he start to lose it.

So, at first, it was easy for him to lable and shun people. Vacula got it. Abbie got it. Blackford got it. Others got it. And all because people still trusted him. But as he's continued to shit-up the community, other people have begun to see that 'hey, that'd be me, too." And people who were marginalized and shoved to the side have now been able to get their voices heard and not immediately dismissed as a bunch of losers.

And that's a big change. So the formerly marginialized voices have gotten bigger. Most of the FTB commentariat now runs from conflict instead of trolling whereever and whenever they can, exemplified by Oolon who trolled here!

So while it slow, disorganized and comprised mostly of the shunned/libeled/slandered, it's to the point that Myers has been
abandoned/shunned by all the 'big name' skeptics and now the second-tier, third-tier players are also pushing back. And by adding our voices/support to them, like Aneris does, without offending them by acting like the same kind of assholes they get from the FtB crowd, we make progress.

Slow, imperfect, but still progress. Which is more progress than any amount of whiners and screamers and internet tough-guys have accomplished in all the years Myers has been acting like an asshole.

But if they want to jack-off to their Internet Tough Guy personas and beat their head futilely against the wall, so be it. I'm not their daddy and I have no desire to police them or shun them or deny them their futile white knight gesture. I'm only hoping they might put down the hormones and white-knighting for a bit and think it through.

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Post by piero » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:55 am

Oh, and probably Nugent could suggest to Dawkins that making joint statements with Ophelia Benson is not a grood idea.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:55 am

BlueShiftRhino wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:An arrow to the knee should do it.

(Queue clowns implying I threatened to shoot an arrow in Myers' knee. According to some master archer here, I'm shit at shooting arrows from even 15 meters, so a fucking ocean might be a bit of a hindrance on my aim.)
The above reminded me of what I found to be the funniest piece in Reno 911:
[youtube]5gs2VYL-3RI[/youtube]
Great scene. Loved that show. One of the directors and his lovely family spent a weekend at my ranch. Wonderful, down-to-earth people.

Fuck. Now I'm paranoid about getting innocent people doxxed.

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:56 am

Why did I not enact the spell checker. I saw all those red-underlined words... Fuck, some days...

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:57 am

katamari Damassi wrote: :clap:
Has Miri banned this harasser yet?
First thing I thought is 'this guy isn't going to last long.' Facts, logic, education, science... It's all meaningless to the PoMo storm inside their heads.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:59 am

windy wrote: "PZ Myers’ really enjoys rape fantasies involving young girls", for one. The evidence for this seems to be that one time he linked to a page with tentacle rape hentai. Potential example of hypocrisy but how does it corroborate "really enjoys rape fantasies involving young girls"?
That is my impression of the fact that PZ frequently posts about tentacle rape porn & tentacle sex in general. I gave one example. (I had a lot of creepiness to cover.) h/t [REDACTED] for documenting on FB several more examples of PZ slavering & making sexually-charged comments about hentai. ("Slavering" = my reasonable description of PZ's actions.)

Same for the rest -- impressions & reasonable descriptions of PZ's actual statements. Remember, this wasn't a master's thesis or scientific paper, it was a satyrical essay.

"raising Petsmart fish in tanks in his classroom, watching & waiting for signs of non-darwinian evolution"
Where's this coming from? According to his post from last year he was planning to look for genetic components of behavior, ironically enough.
My understanding was, he's looking for behavioral differences that've evolved via epigenetic means, either via cell methylation, or his lamarckian misunderstanding of assimilation.

"Cuz everything I’ve read from you indicates that: 1) you enjoy confusing your students; 2) you know fuck all about evolution and biology"

He's said a few dumb things about sex differences, but come on. Take his anti-creationism posts for example.
I have quotes where he revels in confusing his students in his Genetics, Evolution, and Development (BIOL 1111) class, by first explaining darwinian natural selection, then lecturing how it more often than not fails to explain evolution. Myers has frequently written that natural selection, with the gene as unit of selection, is relatively insignificant. PZ thinks he's in the "extended thesis" camp, but even Neutral Theory advocates like Larry Moran face-palm when they read what PZ writes. Even worse, PZ's understanding of evolution & genetics is fatally tainted by his PoMo ideology and blind devotion to radfem dogma.

And screw you for making me run around playing Damion with your silly-ass post.
If you enthusiastically consent to play with Damion's ass, you need to own your actions. But I'm sure Damion would appreciate the attention right now.

Some bits were good though.
Glad we finally can agree.

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Post by piero » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:02 am

BlueShiftRhino wrote:This is for Pogsurf (on MN's blog):

This is the transcript of the phone-call (courtesy of Carrie Poppy) that PZ made to the AMA.

AMA: Hello. AMA complaints division.

PZM: Hi. I'd like to file a complaint against [redacted].

AMA: OK. Is [redacted] your physician?

PZM: No, she's a troll.

AMA: Ooooo-kaaay. And you're being treated by this ... um ... troll?

PZM: No, no, you don't get it. She's not a real troll; she's an internet troll. But she's also a doctor.

AMA: OK, so she is your physician.

PZM: Yes ... no ... I mean: she's a doctor, but not mine. But she diagnosed me on the internet.

AMA: Oh, you went to one of those Internet MD sites? Those aren't certified by the AMA. Most are in India, anyway. I can't really help.

PZM: No, no! She's an American doctor. She just diagnosed me based on stuff that I'd posted on my blog.

AMA: Oh. OK. And she did this as a practicing physician?

PZM: Yes! Exactly! [pause] Well, not exactly, really, but we know that she's a doctor eye-are-ell.

AMA: I'm sorry. Eye-are-ell?

PZM: In real life.

AMA: Ah, OK. So what's the problem?

PZM: Her diagnosis was wrong.

AMA: Well, as you know, all diagnoses are a best guess, based on what is known. [pause] How was her diagnosis incorrect?

PZM: She said that I had the clap. I didn't.

AMA: Well, that's a difficult diagnosis to make without blood-work. On what basis did she do this?

PZM: Because of a pain in my knee.

AMA: Well, that is one of the symptoms. Anything else?

PZM: That I'd been to a conference.

AMA: Well, again, until some people started agitating and took the fun out of conferences ... you'd be surprised.

PZM: But she posted about it! She said I had the clap! My students and trophy ... um, wife might see it!

AMA: Ah. Now I understand your concern. When did she, um, post about this.

PZM: Back when it happened.

AMA: Which was when?

PZM: Quite a while ago.

AMA: ... but you're complaining now.

PZM: Yes. Because someone linked to it.

AMA: Linked?

PZM: Posted a blog about me and included a link to the diagnosis.

AMA: ... the diagnosis that [redacted] had made as your doctor?

PZM: She's not my fucking doctor! She's a 'Pitter! A troll!

AMA: Please, sir. Language. [pause] A 'Pitter?

PZM: A SlymePitter. They're misogynist shitlords.

AMA: Please. Really, sir.

PZM: No. 'Shitlords' is what they call themselves. It's some kind of badge of honor to them

AMA: ... but you allowed her to continue as your doctor, anyway?

PZM: She was never my fucking ... sorry, not fucking doctor!

AMA: Then I don't see the issue.

PZM: She made it seem like I'd gotten the clap at a conference!

AMA: ... because you returned from a conference with the symptoms of gonorrhea.

PZM: Only some of them! And it wasn't the clap. I can prove it, too.

AMA: OK. But did [redacted] actually say that you had gonorrhea or only that you had symptoms consistent with gonorrhea?

PZM: She said that I had it! [pause] Well, not explicitly. But it was clear what she meant.

AMA: ... and this all happened a while ago, but you're bringing it to our attention now because someone made a blog-post about it.

PZM: That and a whole bunch of other stuff.

AMA: Also from [redacted]?

PZM: No. Other stuff. The mermaids. The hentai. The doxxing. All there reguly bullshit.

AMA: Please...

PZM: Sorry. It just pisses me off. I'm the Fifth Horseman, you know. And zebrafish ... that was my idea, too. Why do this do this?

AMA: [silence] Do I even want to know about the mermaids, hentai, doxxing - whatever that is - and other four Horsemen ... ?

PZM: Three.

AMA: I'm sorry?

PZM: Three other Horsemen.

AMA: Ah. I must have misheard. I thought you said that you were the fifth.

PZM: I am, but one of them died.

AMA: I'm so sorry. [pause] Was [redacted] his or her doctor, too?

[dial tone]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Fucking brilliant!

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:02 am

BlueShiftRhino wrote:
Tribble wrote:He had to remove his UMM employer references from Pharyngula. That was in the days of him being hosted by SEED (before it changed its name to SciBlogs). That's been the sole action UMM has taken over all these years on all the horseshit he's pulled.
Yes, but note what he did in particular. When your employer says "don't associate us with your hobbies" you can remove any mention of your employer or you can leave the reference to your employer and append a "this doesn't have anything to do with the company I just mentioned a sentence ago." The latter is technically sufficient, but dickish. Even more, the main two reasons that folk take the diskish route (i.e., add a disclaimer) are (a) pride - as in: they didn't like being told what to do, so they did something dickish while obeying the order - and (b) self-promotion - as in: they still want the veneer provided by the name of the employer, so they leave the mention in place and add the required disclaimer knowing full well that they'll still get the veneer even with the disclaimer.

Whether PZ was following option (a) or (b) or both is beyond me. I don't really care. What matters to me is that he chose to continue to mention UMinn Morris on his Twitter and blog. And choices have consequences.

Lol. And nothing has happened. Despite years and years of trying. So, apparently, his choice in the matter is consequence free and anyone's choice to leverage the fact is worthless and futile because the University will protect him and, frankly, doesn't really give a fuck what you think about Myers. Which has been part of my point all along.

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:03 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:...it was a satyrical essay...
That is one of my favorite typos. Use it often, myself.

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Post by TedDahlberg » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:04 am

Tribble wrote:Why did I not enact the spell checker. I saw all those red-underlined words... Fuck, some days...
Not enough spoons?

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Post by Southern » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:10 am

windy wrote:
Southern wrote: Indeed. You may argue that Matt interpreted PZ's words on the worst light possible (And That's Terrible! As terrible as stealing forty cakes!), but he linked them to the original source and context. If you bash someone for something they say and you provide the links and context to what they said, I think you did your job, factually speaking.
Was PZ, factually speaking, correct to argue that Skep committed a "gross breach of medical ethics", as long as he provided the original source and context?
If she did indeed commited a gross breach of medical ethics, then yeah, sure. We know it's not the case because we provided the actual source and context while he just resorted to doxx and bitch about it.

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Post by piero » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:11 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Sex, like gender, is indeed socially constructed and can be changed.
Ok. Then fuck feminism, it is meaningless.
:lol: :lol:
These jokers don't even realise when they've painted themselves into a corner.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:15 am

I do my thing, Nugent does his. They are not mutually exclusive. I aim to amuse, to needle, to lampoon. That's of value, but not sufficient. Take a look on FB at [REDACTED]'s typically thorough analysis of the points in my blog post. [REDACTED]'s style is far more analytical than mine, and xir summations of the crux of a given issue are always highly illuminating, & well-received -- not just here, but at xir blog and in the comment streams of other places, like Nugent's.


Nugent, ftr, is actually out there IRL getting shit done. I'm just a shits & giggles intermittent blogger, who happens to have a preternatural ability to get under PZ "tentacle rape porn fan" Myers' skin.

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:17 am

Southern wrote:
windy wrote:
Southern wrote: Indeed. You may argue that Matt interpreted PZ's words on the worst light possible (And That's Terrible! As terrible as stealing forty cakes!), but he linked them to the original source and context. If you bash someone for something they say and you provide the links and context to what they said, I think you did your job, factually speaking.
Was PZ, factually speaking, correct to argue that Skep committed a "gross breach of medical ethics", as long as he provided the original source and context?
If she did indeed commited a gross breach of medical ethics, then yeah, sure. We know it's not the case because we provided the actual source and context while he just resorted to doxx and bitch about it.
It was still incredibly classy - IMO - for her to apologize, anyway, especially given how hard that probably was to do. :clap:

Now we get to see if PZ follows his own advice in these matters.

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:19 am

BlueShiftRhino wrote:
Cliché Guevara wrote:Personally, I'm still waiting to get a sense of whether the hardliners here ultimately want to take an eye for an eye, win the hearts and minds of the wider community, or embody a distinctly better alternative.

You seem to assume that your retaliation will be the decisive blow that forces them to wise up and back off. They likely assume the same about you. It seems to be part of the tribal warfare template. Why should I believe you're not just likewise rationalizing your desire to get revenge?
I didn't reply to you yesterday, because I had no real response. I could not actually disagree with your depressing prognosis. But today, I'll try.

Assume that the goal is the removal of FTB nastiness and hypocrisy from the internet/conference A/S community. Trying to convert the masses seems unlikely to work, as they out-number the rational (at least in terms of who posts, etc) and you'd have to overcome too much dissonance to get through. Trying to work through organizers seems unlikely to work for pretty much the same reason. Trying to hurt or threaten them IRL is generally inappropriate and likely to backfire. So the only thing that I could come up with was trying to work through well-known "elites" (such as Dawkins, NdGT, Harris, and Nye). That would likely be a slow and difficult process, and require a calmness that is hard to maintain, but that's all I have.

If you have a criticism of this approach, I'd like to hear it now. If you have an alternative, I'd like to hear that, too. You've done the easy and fun part - as in: rag on what some people have suggested. Please do the harder part with us, now, too.
Was McCarthyism toppled by raging or was it by a simple appeals to humanity and the exposure of his toxic bullshit to America? Wikipedia would be your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism Was MLK successful by attacking whitey, like Malcom X, or did he preach inclusion and the high road? Wikipedia would be your friend, again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.

If that's not global enough for you, we've got Gandhi and Mandela. And probably a shit-ton more. Or we could just continue our own little private Iran/Iraq war that accomplished nothing but a lot of dead Iraqis and Iranians.

OR we could recognize that THIS KIND OF SOCIAL CHANGE TAKES TIME and remain focused on keeping the pressure on Myers by never giving him a break in the greater community for being an asshole.

Bring this crap up on neutral blogs without going over-the-top, like Aneris does. Whenever he pontificates outside his bubble, challenge him and his acolytes. Whenever he's going to a speaker's meeting, like the one in Washington, point out he's a lousy representative of the community and factually present the crap he's done and that the meeting should be shunned.

The message will get through.

But yelling at his employer to get him fired? Or looking up his home address? Or calling him and harrassing him? Or writing him lunatic emails? Those are all a complete waste of time.


Just be low-key, factually accurate and professional. With enough weight, he'll sink back into the slime. He won't go away forever or completely. But he'll become an even more marginalized niche figure.

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:19 am

ps. to heal any ill feelings on The 'Pit, I suggest that Matt buy Skep a Mykeru t-shirt

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Post by Tribble » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:22 am

John D wrote: I will explain why fighting against the PZs, Watsons, A+ers, etc., matters.

1) For the most part, I am reasonably happy with the legal system and ethical decisions of most of my neighbors. This includes most Christians I know. Most people have a decent sense of justice in America in my opinion. ( can give many examples if you wish for me to go on)

2) My goal has always been to get my fellow Americans to just see that atheists are regular people. We are not perfect, but we are certainly not evil. If most people realized atheists are just regular folks I would be very happy.

3) The SJWs are trying to claim that ALL atheists are just like them. This is entirely false and it goes against my goals. My fellow Americans look at folks like Becci and PZ and they see closeted communists. And... you know what... they are correct. Becci and PZ are basically communists. They have their own religion. It does great harm when they are the ones getting invited to speak and conferences and get interview by the media. Their ideas are mostly toxic and wrong.

It is very important to my goals to discredit these lunatics.
I fight them too. But I don't do it by idiotic shit like counter-doxxing, trying to get people fired, etc. But by using facts and information as disinfectant. It works a LOT BETTER, in the long run, than being a raging asshole playing the same game the FTB clowns play.


Fight smart. Fight for the long-term gain, not the short-run 'gotcha.' It's a marathon, not a sprint.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:24 am

paddybrown wrote:A few points.

Firstly, we're into free speech here at the Pit. The goal should not be to silence PZ & Co or force them off the internet - it should be to discredit them. We want everyone to know they're nasty pieces of work and full of shit, that they don't represent atheism or the interests of gender equality within the atheist movement, and that they should not be taken seriously.

Secondly, it's not about being polite, or claiming the moral high ground. The Pit has always been unapologetically vulgar, scurrilous and fun, and one of the things it's all about is fighting for the right to have vulgar, scurrilous fun in the face of the humourless, sanctimonious, censorious, self-righteous fucking bluenoses of the SJL who want unquestioned deference to their idea of morality. It's about not going off half-cocked and giving them ammunition.

Dawkins has seen through the SJL, Nugent has seen through them, more and more people in the movement are realising how fucked up they are and are coming out against them. We don't need to change our tactics - they're working. We just need to keep going.
QFT.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:28 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:I do my thing, Nugent does his. They are not mutually exclusive. I aim to amuse, to needle, to lampoon. That's of value, but not sufficient. Take a look on FB at [REDACTED]'s typically thorough analysis of the points in my blog post. [REDACTED]'s style is far more analytical than mine, and xir summations of the crux of a given issue are always highly illuminating, & well-received -- not just here, but at xir blog and in the comment streams of other places, like Nugent's.


Nugent, ftr, is actually out there IRL getting shit done. I'm just a shits & giggles intermittent blogger, who happens to have a preternatural ability to get under PZ "tentacle rape porn fan" Myers' skin.
I wonder if that campus newspaper frumpy was all upset about, could use a Matt Cavenaugh exclusive.

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Post by CuntajusRationality » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:32 am

Tribble wrote:
CuntajusRationality wrote:How about just sending a clear message that there will in fact be a concerted effort to effect some kind of fucking consequences for despicable behavior that crosses well-established boundaries? How about just sending a clear message that future transgressions may be met with proportional or even escalating responses, the purpose of which is to provide a compelling reason for him to think twice before doing this kind of thing again.

I'm not interested in silencing him in any way. He can keep his shitty blog and continue to refer to himself as the fifth horseman for all I care. I just can't stand to see petty online bullshit be turned into real-life harassment and I think little Paul needs to be incentivized to not step over that line in the future.
All the talk of 'incentivizing' is nothing more than a load of mid-manager sales bafflegarble. Beyond pointing out he's an asshole for doing it and whipping up people to shun him, there is NOTHING you can do from a legal or employment or boycott standpoint.

This is a community problem and making him a pariah, to the greater community, is the only play that will reap dividends. Everything else simply makes his opponents look weak, childish, vindictive, over-wrought and gives him victim points as his opponents are 'no better' and might be considered 'even worse' than him.

One of the many lessons people should have taken from Crackergate. Bill Donohue was so over the top in Cracker Gate that he made Myers look good in response. Despite that it was a total dick move by Myers. One I, along with many others, didn't see the point in making.

But once Donohue tried to make it a national issue, people closed around Myers and gave him support. Including myself because his dick move was at least as bad, if not worse.

So think about the people, like Bill Donohue, you're emulating. Think about how they only ended up making it worse by all the screaming and yelling instead of better. Think about how the attacks via UMM actually swung people to Myer's side even though, at first, they thought it was a dick move.

It's a social problem. You have to fight him socially. You have to fight him in a way that doesn't rally support. You have to keep the pressure up. And you must remember THIS IS A LONG-GAME FIGHT. If you can't fight long game, don't fight at all because you can't win the short game.

OR you can continue on with this middle school revenge fantasy. Your choice.
Yeah, sure. The idea of incentivizing behavior is just a made up social construct, kind of like gender, right? :roll:

As to the comparison with CrackerGate, as others have already pointed out, that's not really a fair comparison given the target in that case was merely an inanimate wafer whereas the target this time is an actual person. If you don't think the difference matters we should probably agree to disagree because I don't think there's enough common ground between us on this point.

As to your suggestion that contacting U. of M. is some kind of "middle school revenge fantasy" whereas your idea is presumably some noble call to action - I say that's complete and utter bullshit. What in the actual fuck do you think has been happening over the last several years, if not "fighting him socially" and people trying to "make him a pariah"? How has that worked out so far in terms of preventing him from being a menace to people IRL?

Look, I get that you don't think it's the right move. Fine with me, and I largely agree with you about it not being likely to be effective. I'm not even arguing that people should, in fact, contact U. of M. so much as I am just arguing that it should not be taken completely off the table for some kind of moral or ethical reasons.

But for the love of all that is holy, please stop with the shitty arguments trying to prove that it's "wrong" whereas your approach is "right". Your argument here is about as convincing as me saying your plan to make him a pariah is just some kind of middle-school mean-girls revenge fantasy that won't have any real impact, and besides you are just emulating PZ Myers himself (considering how much time he spends picking social fights and trying to make pariahs out of his ideological opponents). That would be a bullshit argument and I don't really see much difference between this and what you just said.

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Post by Southern » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:36 am

pajh wrote: and the bullying continues with "favourites" and "retweets" - and I thought they all had blockbot!
If this was your employer's idea and you had to go with it: My sincere condolences for having to jump on such a bad idea. I hope all ends well.

If this was your idea: Never apologize to a SJW. Never.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:48 am

Southern wrote:
pajh wrote: and the bullying continues with "favourites" and "retweets" - and I thought they all had blockbot!
If this was your employer's idea and you had to go with it: My sincere condolences for having to jump on such a bad idea. I hope all ends well.

If this was your idea: Never apologize to a SJW. Never.
Either way, that is something you won't see from that crowd, an apology.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:50 am

BlueShiftRhino wrote:ps. to heal any ill feelings on The 'Pit, I suggest that Matt buy Skep a Mykeru t-shirt
I've conversed with Skep tickle, and have placed myself at her disposal, in any capacity which may assist her in dealing with this vicious attack.

I feel absolutely terrible about inadvertently bringing this upon her. I knew what vile, despicable monsters Myers & gang were, so I should have anticipated that they'd act in a cowardly and vindictive fashion.

I have to attend to some IRL this weekend, so will be offline mostly. Would appreciate heads-up on any important developments via PM. Lsuoma has my private email; feel free to contact me through him if the shit really hits the fan and requires my attention before Monday.

NB. I am not finished dealing with Myers, either online or IRL. Not by a long-shot.


One more observation before I go:
I know what Myers, Benson & Watson did has infuriated all of you, and rightly so. Still, I urge you all proceed cautiously and only after careful reflection. We've got Myers by the balls *, but ill-considered retributions-in-kind could well spoil things. Stay the course, and we will prevail.


* Only figuratively speaking, of course. That fat lump of fecal matter obviously has no balls.

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Post by BlueShiftRhino » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:52 am

I finally got around to reading about CrackerGate. PZ really is a coward with a pattern of getting others to do the dirty work.

There are plenty of Catholic churches near him. And, yet, he asks others to steal consecrated wafers to send to him so that he can desecrate them in the privacy and safety of his own home, while taking pictures and videos.

What an utter coward.

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Also, I saw that he brushed off the anger aimed at him for CrackerGate by calling it "satire and protest" (http://web.archive.org/web/200902040016 ... 13139.html). But the same defense is not available to Matt and Skep?

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:53 am

TheMudbrooker wrote:
And just what effect are you expecting haranguing PZ's employers about what a naughty boy he has been to have? That he'll be made to go stand in the corner?
Yes, standing in the corner, or a good time out is a pretty good analogy.

So no one was talking about getting PZ fired. It's just something you extrapolated. That's what I just said. Dipshit.
Read the rest of the post and quit being a quote mining jackoff.
Will it get more intelligent the second time around?

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:58 am

Spike13 wrote:
Southern wrote:
pajh wrote: and the bullying continues with "favourites" and "retweets" - and I thought they all had blockbot!
If this was your employer's idea and you had to go with it: My sincere condolences for having to jump on such a bad idea. I hope all ends well.

If this was your idea: Never apologize to a SJW. Never.
Either way, that is something you won't see from that crowd, an apology.
Makes sense: She is apologizing for making a joke, defusing their initial mischaracterization and, when they smell blood and press the attack, they will seem like the vindictive douchebags they are.

Aside from that, Skep-Tickle has far more important things to worry about than a rampaging horde of utter losers. Like Southern said, if this is something she has to do, we should all back it.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am

I wonder if that campus paper takes ads.

Something small and tasteful

"Slymepit, Exposing the lies and hypocrisy of the social justice warriors since 2012"

Web address.

I'm sure that would sour peez's nap time cocoa.

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Post by TiBo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I'm off to the mountains. Se you sunday evening.
Footage of Phil has arrived, showing him celebrate his new found health and freedom. :mrgreen:

http://i.imgur.com/X7dleqM.gif

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Post by BarnOwl » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:10 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
"raising Petsmart fish in tanks in his classroom, watching & waiting for signs of non-darwinian evolution"
Where's this coming from? According to his post from last year he was planning to look for genetic components of behavior, ironically enough.
My understanding was, he's looking for behavioral differences that've evolved via epigenetic means, either via cell methylation, or his lamarckian misunderstanding of assimilation.
It's my opinion that he's not doing any science whatsoever, and hasn't done so in quite some time. His self-reported timelines of activities and work aren't consistent with doing experiments, and there's no significant indication that he or his student workers have produced any results at all. He can blather on and call himself an evo-devo biologist, or a biomedical researcher, or King of Lab Rat Hill, or whatever he fancies, but that doesn't mean he's done any science recently.

I'm not going to pass judgment on how others respond to the doxxing and other reprehensible behavior from Myers et al.; I've no idea how they'll retaliate, what new lows they'll stoop to in future, or what the best course of action is. I don't know.

What I do know, as an employee of a state university system, is what the most likely response to any notifications, letters, e-mails, phone calls, etc. will be: nothing. Nada. Nichts. Most faculty and administrators at state universities have a pretty limited understanding (if any at all) of what blogs, Twitter, reddit, etc. are, and of what online interactions can entail. Sure, they know that students are checking Facebook, surfing ESPN, and shopping online during lectures, and they may do some of these things themselves on occasion. Beyond that, and Blackboard (which most of us are forced to use), the internet is an unknown and largely ignored universe.

University IT staff are largely worried about various security breaches (especially when healthcare information is involved), whether the system can handle 220 students uploading their completed exams to Examsoft, and which employees might be downloading porn on their lunch hour. If you tell them about various blog/messageboard skirmishes and doxxing, they'll either look at you blankly and uncomprehendingly (the administrators), or dismiss your concerns with a Pfffft! (the IT staff).

My opinion, FWIW (about 2 cents worth of Confederate money).

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:11 am

TiBo wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I'm off to the mountains. Se you sunday evening.
Footage of Phil has arrived, showing him celebrate his new found health and freedom. :mrgreen:

http://i.imgur.com/X7dleqM.gif
Oh shit! You are fucked up!

(That means I was still laughing while typing this)

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Post by TiBo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:11 am

Spike13 wrote:I wonder if that campus paper takes ads.
Something small and tasteful
"Slymepit, Exposing the lies and hypocrisy of the social justice warriors since 2012"
Web address.
I'm sure that would sour peez's nap time cocoa.
Radio Nero offers ads from 50-250 bucks.
And their listeners hate SJWs. If the Pit ever needs a horde of prospect members, that's where to advertise.

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:16 am

Spike13 wrote:I wonder if that campus paper takes ads.

Something small and tasteful

"Slymepit, Exposing the lies and hypocrisy of the social justice warriors since 2012"

Web address.

I'm sure that would sour peez's nap time cocoa.
I like it.

Except for the small and tasteful. Full page. Picture of Peez.

What's the name of the paper? You know me: Not cool enough to do nothing.

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:18 am

TiBo wrote:
Spike13 wrote:I wonder if that campus paper takes ads.
Something small and tasteful
"Slymepit, Exposing the lies and hypocrisy of the social justice warriors since 2012"
Web address.
I'm sure that would sour peez's nap time cocoa.
Radio Nero offers ads from 50-250 bucks.
And their listeners hate SJWs. If the Pit ever needs a horde of prospect members, that's where to advertise.
Gentlemen....

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2010 ... _Smith.jpg

I feel a plan coming together.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:19 am

Mykeru wrote:
Spike13 wrote:I wonder if that campus paper takes ads.

Something small and tasteful

"Slymepit, Exposing the lies and hypocrisy of the social justice warriors since 2012"

Web address.

I'm sure that would sour peez's nap time cocoa.
I like it.

Except for the small and tasteful. Full page. Picture of Peez.

What's the name of the paper? You know me: Not cool enough to do nothing.

Same here that's why I keep calling it "that Camus newspaper."

My web fu sucks.

All I know how to do is log onto the Slymepit....and pron...lots of pron....lol

In all seriousness I would be happy to contribute to such a worthy cause.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:25 am

The Morris North Star.

Now to see if they have a web page.....


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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:32 am

Spike13 wrote:The Morris North Star.

Now to see if they have a web page.....
We should start on the campus or within Morris. Start local, expand global.

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:33 am

Spike13 wrote:The Morris North Star.

Now to see if they have a web page.....
We should start on the campus or within Morris. Start local, expand global.

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:37 am

Just spoke to the young man who runs the paper.

Full page ad for around 100.00

(For Phil that would be 5000.00 quatloos and three chickens)

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:39 am

Spike13 wrote:Just spoke to the young man who runs the paper.

Full page ad for around 100.00

(For Phil that would be 5000.00 quatloos and three chickens)
I'm in!

Where's Ape+Lust?

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Post by Spike13 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:45 am

Mykeru wrote:
Spike13 wrote:Just spoke to the young man who runs the paper.

Full page ad for around 100.00

(For Phil that would be 5000.00 quatloos and three chickens)
I'm in!

Where's Ape+Lust?
PM coming your way!

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Post by Dave2 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:45 am

Mykeru wrote:
Spike13 wrote:Just spoke to the young man who runs the paper.

Full page ad for around 100.00

(For Phil that would be 5000.00 quatloos and three chickens)
I'm in!

Where's Ape+Lust?
What sort of angle do you think is most likely to appeal to conservative students?

Examples of him providing a bad education?

His comments of people like Robin Williams?

The squid fetish?

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