Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[bovarchist]

Here's another comment from Little Paul on the same page referenced above.
http://i.imgur.com/JWmkNGp.jpg

The two situations may not have been analogous as long as the accusation against PZ was private, but now that it's public, the analogy is clear. People are taking the incident and running with it, just as they ran with the accusation against Shermer. Suffer, Myers. See how much fun it is trying to tease rumor and innuendo apart from what really happened when a hostile mob is determined to think the worst.

[windy]

So I thought this was fake.
http://i.imgur.com/PiuNGMC.jpg

WTF? What magic?

http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/1 ... people.gif

[Lsuoma]

Those implicit bias tests are a load of crap.

Colored folks do dabble in gris-gris, however.

[youtube]b4J8VrprrGE[/youtube]

[deLurch]

The other thing that occurred to me is that the NSA programs that are supposed to trawl the web and identify certain phrases evidently aren’t working very well. I would have thought that the FBI would be rather interested in a plain confession to multiple child rape posted in an open forum.

The NSA should in theory be worried about real terrorists. (Not what politicians call terrorists). And the FBI has a real thing for child porn. But scanning for that boils down to scanning for .jpg files & video files that match a specific hash value. And scanning for files like that has a high true positive rate.

With all of the feminists self indulging in there rape fantasy fetishes, I would find it difficult to be able to scan for certain key phrases or words that would have a reasonably high hit percentage to make it worth having some poor sod sorting through all the false positives. They probably still rely more on people reporting such admissions. It has to be a rare & stupid maneuver. Terrorist hits are probably the same. They take it more seriously because the cost of getting it wrong is much higher. But with so many false positives they probably rely more on profiling people and their connections to narrow down who to take seriously. And stuff posted on the open internet? Probably scores less since they would expect & rely on the public to report that shit. They probably would take private communications not seen by the general public more seriously, such as email or instant messaging.

Take for instance that crazy shooter this summer. He stated what he was going to do on the open internet right before he went and did it. And something like that was not caught by the authorities. Again, too many false positives to make trawling through that shit worth while.

[Nec_V20]

I can give you an idea of what is going to happen with regard to atheist conferences now that the SJWs have their hooks firmly implanted.

Thirty odd years ago when I was on the train and others were in the same compartment, I would ask if anyone minded me smoking. If someone said yes, I would ask the person or people to keep an eye on my stuff and I would go somewhere else to have a smoke. At that time there were no non-smoking areas on trains.

I did this because it was polite and I realised that I might be importuning someone who would be irritated by my smoking in their presence.

Fast forward to when I was living in the students living accommodation Römerlager in Bonn, pictured below:

http://www.sv-zwiener.de/uploads/pics/P1070366.JPG

We had a bar in the cellar, everything was hunky-dory we never had any hassle in there.

Then, when the new student council of the building (actually two buildings) had been elected a ruling was brought in that Tuesdays the bar would be declared a non smoking area.

I used to work behind the bar there and I didn't know any of those students from Römerlager who had gotten themselves elected to the students council - to be honest, I had lived there for well over a year and didn't even KNOW there was a students council. None of the regulars at the bar (one of whom although German was a Partick Thistle supporter like myself) knew any of the muppets who were on the students council either.

We went to the next meeting and when we saw them we knew them for what they were (they are now called SJWs, we didn't really have a name for them then, but you could recognise them a mile off) and protested. It of course fell on totally deaf ears.

So we decided to protest the ruling by having a boycott. Every Tuesday we would sit outside the bar where the lifts were and drink there. For the first couple of Tuesdays, although we were sitting outside, we would buy our drinks in the bar. It occurred to us though that it would not make a difference where the students council would recognise it, i.e. in the money coming in, so after that on Tuesdays we organised our own beer so that no money was being spent in the bar.

It soon turned out that on Tuesdays you could only find between two and five people (normally there were between 70 and well over 100) in the bar with the rest of us outside - even the non smokers were outside. This went on for months and it was such a financial disaster that the students council held a vote and decided, yes you guessed it, to declare Thursdays a non smoker evening as well.

The problem was getting people to work behind the bar on Tuesdays and Thursdays because it was a voluntary thing and none of us were volunteering and of course none of those who voted for the non smoking evenings volunteered to work behind the bar. So quite often although the bar was open nobody was there to do any serving. Thus the amount of patrons of the bar was quite often zero.

In the end there was a new election coming up and we put up our own candidates and got the SJW wankers tossed out, we then got rid of the non smoking evenings and everything went back to normal.

The same thing I hope will happen with atheist conferences when the SJWs suck all the fun out of it with their stick-up-the-stick-up-their-butt attitude.

I would advise people not to attend these venues any more and write in to say exactly why they were staying away from them and that they would continue to stay away as long as the likes of the SJWs hold sway.

[deLurch]

That's bullshit. If you are not advocating someone uses that link why post it. That is the game they play. Don't go down to their level.

I agree. I might find pz to be a despicable human being. And the original poster of that might find it funny to mentally laugh at the idea, but knows that none of the regular pit posters would sink to such a level. But tossing that out there, might be more than enough temptation for a non-regular troll level reader to pick up on. Not worth it.

[comhcinc]

http://thenerdfem.tumblr.com/post/10283 ... -shows-the

Another sexist New York Times opinion piece shows the damaging influence of white males.
Read that article.

Just read it.

It starts off strong, going into the appalling statistics behind college rape. With how many cases are rejected because most colleges and universities are, also, run by hateful white men.

Then it starts questioning whether the women who had been raped had actually been raped or not.

Why does it have to question that? What kind of fucking retarded woman hater wrote this tripe? RAPE IS RAPE. If you have to question whether rape happened when someone told you that it did, THEN YOU’RE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO BRUSH ASIDE REAL RAPE.

New York Times, let me give you a handy checklist, since you clearly don’t know what rape is and that makes me worried of being in a dark alley with your editors.

If I say that something or someone raped me, I WAS RAPED
It doesn’t matter if I was intoxicated
it doesn’t matter if someone gave me a drink
it doesn’t matter how I was dressed
it doesn’t matter if I said yes
it doesn’t matter if I initiated
it doesn’t matter if I didn’t say no when it happened
it doesn’t matter if I waited a week to tell anyone
it doesn’t matter if I waited a LIFETIME to tell anyone
it doesn’t matter if he was drunk, too
it doesn’t matter if I wasn’t drunk
it doesn’t matter if I went along with it
it doesn’t matter if I acted like everything was normal when it happened
it doesn’t matter if we knew each other or if I said it was ‘fine’
THERE, FOLLOW THAT LIST, IS THAT SO HARD? If it was raped by someone, then I WAS RAPED. RAPE IS RAPE. Is that really so hard for you to understand, New York Times?

If you want to know if someone was raped, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THEM WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE RAPED. What a bunch of hateful misogynists. I can’t believe someone was paid to write this article.

Note those are not my mispelling.

[deLurch]

And by the way there's already one person who posts on FTB which many people believe to be a compulsive liar: Avicenna.
Has Ogvorbis ever revealed any other detail about his life that seems outlandish and exaggerated to get some sympathy?

Not to my knowledge.

[Gangaroos]

So I thought this was fake.
http://i.imgur.com/PiuNGMC.jpg

WTF? What magic?

[youtube]URgDcbGnGFo[/youtube]

[windy]

Has this one made the rounds yet?
http://i.imgur.com/6sRTejM.jpg

[jugheadnaut]

But that's not even one of his more bizzare beliefs. For example, Thomas believes that States have the right to set up their own religions. And he said that THIS YEAR. Not as some wooly-headed teenager who smoked too much pot and had too little common sense. But as a sitting, long-term Supreme Court Justice.

What's bizarre is incorporation doctrine. Reinterpreting the constitution because passing another amendment would be difficult is retarded, it nullifies the point of constitutions.

That's basically what Thomas was arguing in Town of Greece vs. Galloway, which I won't get into the details of because eyes will glaze over. He wasn't stating outright that states have the right to establish religions. He was positing that it was an unsettled issue, and provided constitutional and historical context. This is very much a fringe opinion (even Scalia wouldn't get on board), but it's not as nutty as it sounds. And, in fairness, he went on to say that even if a state could establish a religion, it would likely only pass constitutional muster if it was non-coercive (e.g. it couldn't prescribe or proscribe actions dictated by the religion and couldn't collect taxes to support the religion).

On the issue of stare decisis, Thomas has never said he doesn't believe in the concept. The most important practical application of precedent is between court levels, where lower courts must treat previous higher court rulings as axiomatic. Thomas is totally on board with this. At the Supreme Court level, the scope of stare decisis is murkier. Thomas is clearly the judge most openly disrespectful of stare decisis limiting his options as a Supreme Court Justice. But I actually give him credit for being honest. The truth is that no Supreme Court Justice takes it seriously at their level, despite pious verbal affirmations. If it's an issue they really care about, they'll rule as they believe is proper regardless of precedent, just granting the precedent the status of null hypothesis. And, really, shouldn't it be this way? Should a bad ruling echo forward forever?

[deLurch]

Sorry, I thought I was pretty clear that I am not interested nor encouraging anyone to make a false report. I posted the information because someone asked about what the proper procedures were/are, and the link because at least some seem to genuinely believe there was a reportable offense. If they want to avail themselves of the proper reporting channels more power to them.

This has nothing to do with going down to their level. This is about following my own principles, which includes the ethical responsibility to actually report crimes or violations to the proper authorities as opposed to trying to handle them via blog posts and comments. I'm personally not convinced there was a reportable violation here, but others may legitimately disagree; and if they do, they should feel no qualms about reporting IMO.

Yeah, not floating for me.

You do know that there are a lot of assholes & drama loving trolls on the internet right? The proportion of posters to readers on any given forum is off by a high percentage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_ ... culture%29 That is the real risk. You don't think anyone here in the pit would do it. But did you really consider that a drama loving troll would.

[comhcinc]

Watch this http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fd_1415833830

then this
[youtube]MOMElSq5IXE[/youtube]

[James Caruthers]

Battle Royale > Hunger Games

https://31.media.tumblr.com/a2abf2a92e3 ... qz4rgp.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6bip ... o4_250.gif

[youtube]mDHhAalIHSg[/youtube]

Battle Royale 4 Lyfe.

Takeshi Kitano > Jennifer Lawrence

[deLurch]

I got a kick out of this comment by Esper over at Nugent's blog: "It's okay when we do it, shall be the whole of the law."

Anyone got a link to a freeze page so I can post it at Nugent's?

- Shatterface[/quote]

Here you go.
https://archive.today/N0srI
Comment posts #69.

[Garlix]

Takeshi Kitano > Jennifer Lawrence

A guy who can make both "Takeshi's Castle" and "Hana-Bi" is bound to be an interesting dude.

[comhcinc]

meta.

[youtube]XKO0OajZX2I[/youtube]

[James Caruthers]

Takeshi Kitano > Jennifer Lawrence

A guy who can make both "Takeshi's Castle" and "Hana-Bi" is bound to be an interesting dude.

[youtube]hFQTU8CFkm4[/youtube]

[Southern]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

[zenbabe]

Has this one made the rounds yet?
http://i.imgur.com/6sRTejM.jpg

I love that with all my heart.

A few pages behind, but am chuckling pretty hard over PZ's only attempt at defense from Nugent in weeks and weeks.

"That wasn't me, covering my ass and silencing the victim! That was me, being her white knight, and doing for her what she was too frail to do, which was to open an investigation into myself!"

"WOMEN helped me investigate that frail and confused young woman's claims, and they agreed I did no wrong, and women are always right!"

"And Nugent is a stupid slime head for not realizing such a blatantly obvious fact!"

Literally can't even wait for Svan's sternly emphatic ministry of propaganda post in support of PZ.

[comhcinc]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

[Suet Cardigan]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... ssy%20pass

[Shatterface as Guest]

I got a kick out of this comment by Esper over at Nugent's blog: "It's okay when we do it, shall be the whole of the law."

Anyone got a link to a freeze page so I can post it at Nugent's?

- Shatterface

Here you go.
https://archive.today/N0srI
Comment posts #69.[/quote]

Might be worth twatting a link to Dawkins himself. This has the potential to end Myers for good.

- Shatterface

[Southern]

Just my opinion, but I started finding the Ogvorbis and Peezus rape stories tedious about the fifth the time they came up here. And now that we're in the vicinity of round 20, excruciatingly so. I actually turned off the pit for a while about a month ago when there was a volley of Ogvorbis related posts, and now we're getting both at the same time. I understand that the main issue regarding these is FTB hypocrisy, and that this latest outcropping started with MN's post. Maybe some people find it interesting. But I just want to bang my head on my desk when it comes up.

I second the chairman's motion, but with two little reservations: one, the real motivation for bringing the (probably fake) Ogvorbis tale of rape and PZ Myers's tale of rape allegations is to highlight their hypocrisy (since their mantra is that the Slymepit is a haven for rapists, however they cannot produce evidence of this whatsoever); and two, mentioning those two stories pisses them off oh so very much, so I understand why people like to press those buttons again and again.

But I agree, can we tune off the Ogvorbis shit a little? We don't even know if this guy is not just a troll. We CANNOT know that unless law enforcement is involved, to be honest, so if nobody is willing to take the step to get the feds involved (and maybe that would be indeed a bad idea, I don't know about the fine prints of the strange American laws), then let it go.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... ssy%20pass

Alright, brainiac. Enough with the citations to scientific literature already. Can you dumb it down a bit next time? This is The Pit you know, we have incredibly low standards here.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Accused rapist and confirmed tentacle hentai rape porn enthusiast PZ Meyers has a Dawkins post up (obviously), about some interview he gave, during which he apparently failed to chew his own dick off at the root. So that meant Meyers had to fling another stick of shit at him, of course.

Interesting new rape threat in the comments. They are a fascinating bunch of people over there at FfTB.

http://i.imgur.com/89ZgRwD.png

[Southern]

I mean why not use the tech that is used in the battle dome to help produce more food so everyone is happy?

I guess that happens for the same reasons why we don't all sell our televisions, laptops and cell phones and send the money to someone who will save some starving children in Africa.

A lot of people would do that, if it was just a matter of sending money to one guy/organization to solve the problem.

Sending money to Africa only solves the problem of warlords with too few resources to buy weapons for the next batch of rape/torture/genocide.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I love it when The Herd tries to do comedy. It shows the massive chasm between our creative geniuses, such as Ape, Jan, Cuntajious and, er...whatsit...Grimsdale?

http://i.imgur.com/Lmun8vw.png

:bjarte:

[deLurch]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... ssy%20pass

1. Because Mozilla & CFI are different companies. Now if Brendan Eich & Melody Hensley both worked at the same company, different results would be more interesting.

2. CFI's mission statement & values
http://www.centerforinquiry.net/about
Now I can see solid arguments of both for & against Melody Hensley continuing in her position at CFI.

On one hand we can clearly see that Melody works against much of their stated values. But on the other hand, by allowing her to speak as she wishes, they are promoting the free exchange of ideas and words of their own employees.

As to if you think CFI is doing a good job in their stated mission and think they are a worthwhile charity... well that is up to you and your pocket book. I personally think that there are enough good charities out there, that I can pick & choose who is doing a better job than the others.

Personally, I think if say Melody was a file clerk there that actually did her job, CFI would be making the correct choice. But with her working as an executive director, her actions & leadership are the 100% polar opposite of their stated aims.

An excellent test would be to see if they had hired a Klansman as an executive director, and to see if CFI continued to allow such similar antics. But that just flat out isn't going to happen any time soon.

[Guest]

And, in fairness, he went on to say that even if a state could establish a religion, it would likely only pass constitutional muster if it was non-coercive (e.g. it couldn't prescribe or proscribe actions dictated by the religion and couldn't collect taxes to support the religion).

Good post. However, what I quoted is incorrect. Thomas argued that the establishment clause prevented the coercive establishment of religion, of which the prayers in question did not qualify as. So even if it were incorporated, it still wouldn't apply in that case. Scalia did agree with Thomas about that.

[Southern]

To put it another way, Peeta is trying to work his way out of the Nice Guy Zone.

I got the impression Gale was also in the friend zone because Katniss didn't want to get married or have children. Gale was working out by kissing her in the woods and promising her he'd support her family while she was in the games and otherwise using his hunky masculine sex appeal to woo her.

Gale is in the Friend Zone, but Katniss has stirrings of romantic feelings for him, even though she's been too gay out hunting to feed her family to recognize it. Peeta she barely even remembers, even though he's had a crush/stalking/white knight obsession thingie for her for, like, forever.

You love horses, you love tweeny romantic literature. I'll doxx you: Matt Cavenaugh is a teen girl. Just avoid Clarence and everything will be fine.

[Southern]

I'd love to watch a Battle of Wits between Dawkins and Anthony K.

Hardly a fair contest, considering Anthony K's handicap in this regard.

http://i.imgur.com/bSC2lzu.jpg

Cassius could fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MAGIC POWERS!

[deLurch]

We CANNOT know that unless law enforcement is involved, to be honest, so if nobody is willing to take the step to get the feds involved (and maybe that would be indeed a bad idea, I don't know about the fine prints of the strange American laws), then let it go.

I am totally not a lawyer, but these are what I think are some of the legal considerations.

Most people expect that whatever happened probably are outside the statute of limitations. Laws like this vary from state to state, so without knowing the state in question, we don't know.

However after the whole priest sex abuse scandals that came to light, there were many significant pushes on the legislature to modify the laws for child sex abuse in many states to extend the statute of limitations up to the point where there would not be any limitations on prosecuting sexual child abuse. Now I don't know how on earth those changes fly, because a long standing premise in US law is that you can't convict someone based on retroactive changes in laws. Maybe it is enough of a moral panic that this stuff is just rolling past the judges. Or the defendants think they are fucked any way and don't have the money to defend themselves, or if the prosecutors primarily use those laws to scare the shit out of the defendants to get them to accept a plea deal that acquires some level of justice.

By the same token, I don't understand how DDOS attacks are prosecuted under existing law. I think the judges are not knowledgeable about the underlying technology, and I would love to see it properly challenged in court vs. the defendants always coping a plea. That isn't to say that I don't think that the US shouldn't have laws against DDOS attacks. It is just that the existing anti-hacker laws on the books are being misused & misinterpreted.

[zenbabe]

Accused rapist and confirmed tentacle hentai rape porn enthusiast PZ Meyers has a Dawkins post up (obviously), about some interview he gave, during which he apparently failed to chew his own dick off at the root. So that meant Meyers had to fling another stick of shit at him, of course.

Interesting new rape threat in the comments. They are a fascinating bunch of people over there at FfTB.

http://i.imgur.com/89ZgRwD.png

He was forced to stoop to the level of vicious rape threats?
He didn't have a choice as to what language to use to express his feelings?

Poor thing.

[deLurch]

Accused rapist and confirmed tentacle hentai rape porn enthusiast PZ Meyers has a Dawkins post up (obviously), about some interview he gave, during which he apparently failed to chew his own dick off at the root. So that meant Meyers had to fling another stick of shit at him, of course.

Interesting new rape threat in the comments. They are a fascinating bunch of people over there at FfTB.

http://i.imgur.com/89ZgRwD.png

By pz's own measuring stick, pz tacitly approves of sexual assault of molestation victims. Also the poster "usernames!" is a piece of shit.

[jugheadnaut]

And, in fairness, he went on to say that even if a state could establish a religion, it would likely only pass constitutional muster if it was non-coercive (e.g. it couldn't prescribe or proscribe actions dictated by the religion and couldn't collect taxes to support the religion).

Good post. However, what I quoted is incorrect. Thomas argued that the establishment clause prevented the coercive establishment of religion, of which the prayers in question did not qualify as. So even if it were incorporated, it still wouldn't apply in that case. Scalia did agree with Thomas about that.

That's consistent with what I said, although I didn't bring up the specifics of this case. The prayers were regarded by the majority, including Thomas, as non-coercive and therefore, in their opinion, consistent with the Establishment Clause. The question of whether a state could establish a religion (which only Thomas thought was an open constitutional possibility) was irrelevant to this reasoning. Perhaps that's why Thomas left his comment open-ended.

[deLurch]

Hardly a fair contest, considering Anthony K's handicap in this regard.

http://i.imgur.com/bSC2lzu.jpg

Cassius could fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MAGIC POWERS!

You are really going out on a limb for that joke.

[James Caruthers]

Now, your geniuses could explain to me why Brendan Eich, one of the most important people in the history of the Web as we know it, can preemptively lose his job at Mozilla because ONE instance of twattery he did YEARS AGO, and Smellody Hensley, a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

Because her bosses did the GOOBLE GOBBLE ONE OF US.

[youtube]9C4uTEEOJlM[/youtube]

[James Caruthers]

I love it when The Herd tries to do comedy. It shows the massive chasm between our creative geniuses, such as Ape, Jan, Cuntajious and, er...whatsit...Grimsdale?

http://i.imgur.com/Lmun8vw.png

:bjarte:

That's not very funny, but some of the insulting pit shoops are not that funny either. I find it funnier when posters like Jan develop a comedy routine with actual jokes (fish comics, yes!) PZ's head shopped onto a monkey's anus does little for me (sexually).

I'm a rough man with a rough opinion.

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... e-GIFS.gif

[deLurch]

a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

Now CFI has received a letter from her doctor stating she has PTSD. CFI as an employer is in hardly in position to question that diagnosis. And even if they did challenge that diagnosis, it is more likely than not, that any 2nd opinion would at best come up with a different diagnosis of mental illness. So they would be in the same boat.

[bovarchist]

a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

Now CFI has received a letter from her doctor stating she has PTSD. CFI as an employer is in hardly in position to question that diagnosis. And even if they did challenge that diagnosis, it is more likely than not, that any 2nd opinion would at best come up with a different diagnosis of mental illness. So they would be in the same boat.

The Center for Inquiry...is hardly in a position to ask questions. Sorry, that's some Monty Python gold right there. Are they at least allowed to fight in the War Room?

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I love it when The Herd tries to do comedy. It shows the massive chasm between our creative geniuses, such as Ape, Jan, Cuntajious and, er...whatsit...Grimsdale?



:bjarte:

That's not very funny, but some of the insulting pit shoops are not that funny either. I find it funnier when posters like Jan develop a comedy routine with actual jokes (fish comics, yes!) PZ's head shopped onto a monkey's anus does little for me (sexually).

I'm a rough man with a rough opinion.

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... e-GIFS.gif

http://i.imgur.com/aQgGZNa.png

[Guest]

And, in fairness, he went on to say that even if a state could establish a religion, it would likely only pass constitutional muster if it was non-coercive (e.g. it couldn't prescribe or proscribe actions dictated by the religion and couldn't collect taxes to support the religion).

Good post. However, what I quoted is incorrect. Thomas argued that the establishment clause prevented the coercive establishment of religion, of which the prayers in question did not qualify as. So even if it were incorporated, it still wouldn't apply in that case. Scalia did agree with Thomas about that.

That's consistent with what I said, although I didn't bring up the specifics of this case. The prayers were regarded by the majority, including Thomas, as non-coercive and therefore, in their opinion, consistent with the Establishment Clause. The question of whether a state could establish a religion (which only Thomas thought was an open constitutional possibility) was irrelevant to this reasoning. Perhaps that's why Thomas left his comment open-ended.

Ah, I had interpreted "even if a state could establish a religion, it" as 'assuming the establishment clause wasn't incorporated, a state religion'.

[BarnOwl]

For all the penis imagery enthusiasts, a festive Xmas treat:

http://i.imgur.com/uytrAUd.jpg

[Shatterface as Guest]

a useless, talentless twat with fake PTSD and a pechant for spouting shit on Twitter but with NO contributions to anything but the lulz, cannot lose hers on CFI.

Now CFI has received a letter from her doctor stating she has PTSD. CFI as an employer is in hardly in position to question that diagnosis. And even if they did challenge that diagnosis, it is more likely than not, that any 2nd opinion would at best come up with a different diagnosis of mental illness. So they would be in the same boat.

The Center for Inquiry...is hardly in a position to ask questions. Sorry, that's some Monty Python gold right there. Are they at least allowed to fight in the War Room?

An employer is required to make 'reasonable adjustments' in order to comply with anti-discrimination laws. That would mean giving her duties that would not exacerbate her condition. You wouldn't make an asthmatic work in a dusty environment and you wouldn't expect someone with back problems to carry heavy weights. If there aren't reasonable alternatives the employer is not liable for their continued employment.

If someone was incontinent the employer would be required to give her frequent toilet breaks. The employer would not be responsible for her pissing herself if she insisted on drinking vast quantities of tea.

If someone is suffering Twitter PTSD they should be given other duties. If they insist on spending all their time on Twitter the employer is not responsible.

She should take responsibility for her own Twitter incontinence.

- Shatterface

[deLurch]

Now CFI has received a letter from her doctor stating she has PTSD. CFI as an employer is in hardly in position to question that diagnosis. And even if they did challenge that diagnosis, it is more likely than not, that any 2nd opinion would at best come up with a different diagnosis of mental illness. So they would be in the same boat.

The Center for Inquiry...is hardly in a position to ask questions. Sorry, that's some Monty Python gold right there. Are they at least allowed to fight in the War Room?

OK. I don't see where they could in any way benefit from challenging the diagnosis unless they intend to fire her. And even if they did intend to fire her, what difference would it make if it was some other mental illness instead of PTSD.

From a human compassion standpoint, I think that it is great that CFI isn't just going to flat out fire an employee with a mental illness and giving her time to hopefully work out her issues. Matters could work out if appropriate care is provided.

And beyond that, CFI can't fire her or reassign her if she can still do her job with "reasonable accommodation". Right now, that appears to include letting her work from home.

And just because we are discussing this subject, I did a little dumpster diving or a more educated perspective on the legal aspect. Not that I think firing is the right way to go, but even changing someone's work responsibilities or reassigning them are just as legally problematic.
http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/can- ... -9682.html

[James Caruthers]

http://bookofbrodin.wikia.com/wiki/Book_of_Brodin_Wiki

This is fucking hilarious and you need to read it.

Especially the glute-having sloots and v olkisch lumbersexuals.

[Suet Cardigan]

TIL that "Male Tears" is slang for semen:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... le%20tears

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[James Caruthers]

1 Now, when Zyzz say the crowds, he lifted up a mountainside and sat down. His bros came to him, 2 and he began to teach them The Beautitudes.

He said:

3 “Swole are the poor gains, for theirs is the kingdom of swolehalla.

4 Swole are those who fail reps, for they will have gains.

5 Swole is the bearmode, for they will inherit the Iron Temple.

6 Swole are those who hunger and thirst for Whey, for they will be filled.

7 Swole are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

8 Swole are the pure in form, for they will see the light.

9 Blessed are the Swole of heart, for they will be called children of Brodin.

10 Swole are those who are persecuted and swolested, for theirs is the kingdom of swolehalla.

11 Swole are you when people insult you, persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of your gains.

12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward of gains, for in the same way they persecuted the bros who came before you."

1 Beware of practicing your swoledom before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no gainz from Brodin who is in Swolehalla.

2 Thus, when you pray in the squat rack, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the Smith machines and on the ellipticals, that they may be praised by others.

6 But when you flex, go into your room, close the door and flex for the Swolefather, who is unseen. Then the Swolefather, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

[James Caruthers]

29 Brodin returned to the Sea of Galilift and climbed a hill and sat down. 30 A vast crowd brought him the weak privileged, the soft, fat, skinny, and many others with physical weakness and excuses on the mind, and they laid them before Brodin. And he made them all swole. 31 The crowd was amazed! Those who hadn’t been able to squat were squatting, the fat were made healthy, the weak were infused with multiple servings of ground turkey, and those who had made excuses looked only towards their inner self! And they praised the God of Swol. 32 Then Brodin called his brociples to him and said, “I feel sorry for rest of these people. They have been here with me for three days, and they have nothing left to eat. I don’t want to send them away hungry, or they themselves will not become swol.” 33 The brociples replied, “And where would we get enough protein out here in the wilderness for all of them to eat?” 34 Brodin asked, “How many protein shakes do you have?” They replied, “Seven, and a few small chicken breasts.” 35 So Brodin told all the people to sit down on the ground. 36 Then he took the seven protein shakes and chicken and poured and sliced them into smaller servings, and gave them to the brociples, who distributed them [to] the crowd. 37 They all drank and ate until they, too, were swole, and when the last of it all was had, there were seven large buckets of creatine left over! 38 There were four thousand men who became swole that day, in addition to all the women and children. 39 Then Brodin sent the people home to go speak the word of the gains made that day.

Holy shit my sides.

[piero]

I got a kick out of this comment by Esper over at Nugent's blog:

"It's okay when we do it, shall be the whole of the law."

Anyone got a link to a freeze page so I can post it at Nugent's?

- Shatterface

Here you go.
https://archive.today/N0srI
Comment posts #69.

Comment #80 in that thread is a gem of rare perfection:

Anthony K
19 November 2014 at 10:53 am

People pay Richard Dawkins $10-20,000 to come lecture at them for an hour.

That’s so surreal.

It’s vomit-worthy. Why aren’t they interested in listening to actual scientists?

I thought it was a quip aimed at "scientist" Rebecca Watson. Then I read the poster's name. :cry:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

LOL, Little Paul has to explain to his Horde what it means to be pariah in the A/S world:

PZ Myers
19 November 2014 at 11:48 am
I understand why Dawkins, Harris, Schermer et. al. are now pariahs.
Huh? All three are still popular, still command high speaking fees, still publish books that sell very well. That’s an awfully peculiar status for “pariahs”

.

[Pitchguest]

They honestly couldn't be worse fuckups even if they tried. That Anthony K quote above is just gold. Absolute gold. Holy fucking shit.

[deLurch]

LOL, Little Paul has to explain to his Horde what it means to be pariah in the A/S world:

PZ Myers
19 November 2014 at 11:48 am
I understand why Dawkins, Harris, Schermer et. al. are now pariahs.
Huh? All three are still popular, still command high speaking fees, still publish books that sell very well. That’s an awfully peculiar status for “pariahs”

.

So what does little paul's speaking schedule look like now.
He has skepticon in November. I assume a FTBcon google hangout...

[Shatterface as Guest]

They honestly couldn't be worse fuckups even if they tried. That Anthony K quote above is just gold. Absolute gold. Holy fucking shit.

Just remember that the charges levelled at the Pyt by wkdkitty at The Friendly Atheist yesterday is that members dox, make especially threats and make death threats.

Myers fondness for doxxing is well known; now we have the Horde on record making death and rape threats against Dawkins, and Myers comments on that same thread after those threats so he can't pretend he hasn't seen them.

I'd be amazed if that isn't enough material for Nugent's next post.

Screw Myers hypocrisy and casual sexism; this is true hate-site material the Horde are spewing out.

- Shatterface

[tina]

29 Brodin returned to the Sea of Galilift and climbed a hill and sat down. 30 A vast crowd brought him the weak privileged, the soft, fat, skinny, and many others with physical weakness and excuses on the mind, and they laid them before Brodin. And he made them all swole. 31 The crowd was amazed! Those who hadn’t been able to squat were squatting, the fat were made healthy, the weak were infused with multiple servings of ground turkey, and those who had made excuses looked only towards their inner self! And they praised the God of Swol. 32 Then Brodin called his brociples to him and said, “I feel sorry for rest of these people. They have been here with me for three days, and they have nothing left to eat. I don’t want to send them away hungry, or they themselves will not become swol.” 33 The brociples replied, “And where would we get enough protein out here in the wilderness for all of them to eat?” 34 Brodin asked, “How many protein shakes do you have?” They replied, “Seven, and a few small chicken breasts.” 35 So Brodin told all the people to sit down on the ground. 36 Then he took the seven protein shakes and chicken and poured and sliced them into smaller servings, and gave them to the brociples, who distributed them [to] the crowd. 37 They all drank and ate until they, too, were swole, and when the last of it all was had, there were seven large buckets of creatine left over! 38 There were four thousand men who became swole that day, in addition to all the women and children. 39 Then Brodin sent the people home to go speak the word of the gains made that day.

Holy shit my sides.

Hilarious stuff. Tempted to write the Brocopalypse.. :dance:

[Brive1987]

And by the way there's already one person who posts on FTB which many people believe to be a compulsive liar: Avicenna.
Has Ogvorbis ever revealed any other detail about his life that seems outlandish and exaggerated to get some sympathy?

Not to my knowledge.

Well he was an injured military veteran.

[Dan]

LOL, Little Paul has to explain to his Horde what it means to be pariah in the A/S world:

PZ Myers
19 November 2014 at 11:48 am
I understand why Dawkins, Harris, Schermer et. al. are now pariahs.
Huh? All three are still popular, still command high speaking fees, still publish books that sell very well. That’s an awfully peculiar status for “pariahs”

.

[JackSkeptic]

They honestly couldn't be worse fuckups even if they tried. That Anthony K quote above is just gold. Absolute gold. Holy fucking shit.

Just remember that the charges levelled at the Pyt by wkdkitty at The Friendly Atheist yesterday is that members dox, make especially threats and make death threats.

Myers fondness for doxxing is well known; now we have the Horde on record making death and rape threats against Dawkins, and Myers comments on that same thread after those threats so he can't pretend he hasn't seen them.

I'd be amazed if that isn't enough material for Nugent's next post.

Screw Myers hypocrisy and casual sexism; this is true hate-site material the Horde are spewing out.

- Shatterface

One thing I have noticed with many SJW's is the way they drip with envy. That is why they never create, always destroy. They all seem to have some story about why they failed, usually blaming everyone except themselves. When they do get into any position of power or authority they big it up so much it becomes laughable and they instantly abuse it. Myers, Hensley, Benson, Zvan, they all overstate their importance while using their unearned privilege to attack others.

Genuinely successful people, such as Nugent, just get on with what they want to do and have no need to overstate their achievements. They hate him for that so he is attacked.

If they learned to take responsibility and realise life is not something handed out on a plate they would learn how to be as successful as those they despise. Instead they moan and gripe while expecting everyone to bend to their petty whims and tantrums.

But that is why SJW's will achieve precisely nothing, which is a very good thing.

Social Justice and equality will not be helped one bit by these clowns. In fact they are regressing the good progress made as they have no genuine interest in anything that does not benefit them personally. The quicker they are told to get lost the better for society.

[Southern]

LOL, Little Paul has to explain to his Horde what it means to be pariah in the A/S world:

PZ Myers
19 November 2014 at 11:48 am
I understand why Dawkins, Harris, Schermer et. al. are now pariahs.
Huh? All three are still popular, still command high speaking fees, still publish books that sell very well. That’s an awfully peculiar status for “pariahs”

.

They must have been thinking of a certain professor from Minesotta who has a pechant for tentacle rape hentai and was accused of sexually assaulting a student.