Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[Parody Accountant]

I have no idea who these people are or what victims they are talking about. Surely one of them was an atheist.

[bovarchist]

This reminds me of one of my favorite surface contradictions in US law: all officials must swear to protect and defend the Constitution, but some of them are also allow to propose amendments to the Constitution. If something is changed - e.g., by amendment - then it isn't the same as before. So, it seems to me, that part of what they swore to do is prevent any amendment from passing. That whole Bill of Rights thing? Biggest act of treason in history.

The Constitution included provisions for amending it, or even scrapping it entirely. So long as one advocates doing so via the mechanisms delineated in the Constitution, one is upholding & defending it.

If you're going to take that comment of mine seriously, then maybe I need to mention that I'm really a trans-gendered mechanical sea lion trapped in a cis human body.

Pfft. Who here isn't?

[free thoughtpolice]

From Giliell:

A woman was attacked and beaten. She was attacked for being visibly muslim, for wearing a headscarf. Bet you that she resembled those women in the cartoons?
As a result she lost her pregnancy.

She is inferring that Charlie Hebdo cartoons caused that attack?

[smoothmedia]

Several commenters at FTB have been pointing out the fact that Giliell is mis-understanding the context of the seemingly racist/misogynist cartoons, and thus misclassifying criticism of bigotry as being bigotry. (Same mistake as "cancel colbert" in response to his ching chong ding dong jobe or the outrage at the Obama terrorist fist-bump New Yorker cover).

What is is Giliell's reponse to this? You guessed it!

Repeat after me: intent is not magic, intent is not magic, intent is not magic.
If you also turn withershins 30 times you’ll get dizzy.

:lol:

[ROBOKiTTY]

We have diddly-squat to say about education, let alone women's rights in muslim countries. Their education seems mostly to consist of memorising the Quran. In western countries they do their best to institute madrassas, paid by the Sauds or, in the UK for example, by the state.

The Internet, for one, is a great equalizer. It allows anyone to contribute to the flow of information into even very oppressive regimes. The ideas may only reach a subset of the population, but they will disseminate over time as information is wont to do. Even North Koreans can be reached in part by cell phones from China and balloon-dropped DVDs from South Korea.

Some Christians risk their freedom smuggling Bibles and running home churches in the Middle East. There's no reason people interested in promoting secular education in that area can't do the same, perhaps even within and adapting to legal limits.

If we subvert the ideological bind that powers Muslim fundamentalism, it may go a long way towards pacifying Islam.

Is it? I thought that that's true of the term ethnic cleansing, but that genocide is more killing-specific.

Oops, I think I had the terms mixed up. Good catch.

However, in practice, you rarely have forced population transfers without violence and deaths (e.g. the Armenian genocide and the Trail of Tears both began as forced population transfers and ended up genocidal). Culture is also tied to geography, so by removing an ethnic group from a geographical location, one in effect destroys a part of their cultural identity, which may lead to the death of an ethnic-cultural group and a way of life if not necessarily its members.

The most benign (and I use this term only in relative terms) case of forced population transfers in recent history might be the internment of Japanese-Americans and Canadians during WWII. These were relatively small and passive populations. It still produced unsanitary conditions and health problems.

If Muslim immigrants and their descendants were to be expelled from Europe, a much larger and more bellicose population (compared to Japanese-Canadians and Americans) would have to be moved along a wide latitudinal axis, meaning many of them would be exposed to climates they were not raised in. I can't see a practical way for a population transfer of this magnitude to work humanely and effectively. Even Hitler, with Germany's industrial efficiency, did not succeed in exterminating Jews in central Europe.

[Scented Nectar]

John D said:

No man.... you can't really prove that all human life is precious. This is a religious concept that secular people conveniently steal as a "standard".

Kirbmarc did a pretty good job of showing why that is not really a Christian concept, although apologists have apparently convinced you that it is a fact. If you read the bible or other history it is clear that atheists existed at least as long ago- how do you know that the pro-humanist bits that get cherry picked out of the Bible to show how benevolent Xtianity is weren't stolen from non-religionist humanists?
After all, the Bible and the actions of Jews and Xtians provide plenty of examples of quotes and actions that that don't support the idea of "human life being precious".
Are you saying that you need to be superstitious (religious) to have conceived the idea of human life being valuable? If so I call bullshit.
Human beings are intrinsically social animals that are when mentally healthy are naturally benevolent to others, Not only that, but being a social animal has great benefits to the individual and there is nothing irrational or illogical about having a social conscience.

Well... I disagree with much of what you wrote.... and I suspect we will not change each other on this topic. I am okay with this disagreement and I realize my view is very uncommon among atheists. I would only point out that I am well aligned with Dan Dennett on my line of thinking. At this point we will just bash each other about the head... which I am not interested in doing. I mean no disrespect in my disagreement with you.

Can I ask if you think the "Religion is a virus" claim is accurate and useful as a slogan?

Now I can't get this out of my head... :)

Laurie Anderson - "Language Is A Virus"
[youtube]8bhldlJ0Aus[/youtube]

[NoGodsEver]

Or Giliell, whatever the lowlife calls itself.

Someone over there called her 'filth'. That about covers it.

[NoGodsEver]

That John Nyzell guy over in that thread is doing a good job of exposing their insanity. I'm a little surprised he hasn't been banned yet.

[ROBOKiTTY]

CatieCat:

It’s bizarre, honestly. How do ordinarily rational people get so unhinged with fear over a thing which kills absurdly small numbers of people, simply because the attackers claimed a particular religion? Especially when that religion’s adherents have been the world’s chew toys for 20+ years? It’s hardly rocket science they’re going to be pissed off, is it? Look at how many closet fascists have thrown open their capes after the attack on Charlie Hebdo!

Yeah, it's only an attack on Freeze Peach, right? Right?

Seriously, Peezus's commentariat is just about the lowest scum on the planet. This thread proves it beyond doubt.

She may be polemic about it, but she isn't all wrong. This attack was a tragedy, and it highlighted a social problem that we've long been aware of, but it's not something that should inspire talks of expelling Muslims from Europe or further erosions of civil rights when the attack was an assault on the freedom of speech to begin with.

We ended up with the same conclusion in the aftermath of 9/11, after the public realized they gave George W. Bush and his international cronies too much leeway to chip away at our civil rights. Look at how much of a surveillance state Britain has become. Richard Dawkins even had to give up his honey to get on a flight. To politicize this event would be to dishonour the memories of those who died in defence of free speech.

[Southern]

Again if I was any real issues I wouldn't be here. That doesn't stop me from being able to take a step back and seeing that yes given the evidence an outsider may believe that we really are stalking and harassing people. Doesn't mean they are right or I agree with them, so you are just spinning your wheels by telling me I am wrong.

This I thought needed special attention.

Again, it's comments on their PUBLIC behavior. Nobody is really interested on who Rebecca Watson is banging, or where she is doing her nails, or whatever she's got a kitty or a puppy as her pet. Her doxxing, her hypocrisy and Patreon shanenigans are matter of interest about her political activism, however, and can be rightly criticized.

From just 3 days ago in response to a picture that Watson took at a party

Is she still dating Isaak? If so, then she won't be for long. Think she's going to try to fuck her way onto Mythbusters? Let's hope Savage is smarter than that, though I wouldn't bet on it.

I am not picking on katamari here either. Plenty of people took the time to talk about that picture including questions about her glasses (which is kinda like talking about her nails).
I am not just pulling things out my ass here.

Ok, fair point (the fact that this was 3 days ago and I didn't remember should tell you how much Twatson occupies my mind). However, the point about the glasses, if I'm not mistaken, is that she wears the same hipster glasses that are so en vogue among the douches of the world.

I thought this site was just about the tits?

http://i.imgur.com/SJt3mjN.jpg

Not enough hipster douche glasses OR blue hair.

[Brive1987]

No, the point was that they appeared to be covered in jizz.

[Southern]

The British view of the French is derived largely from dynastic, and then geo-political rivalry. Although we should have outgrown this long ago, I find it considerably less contemptible than the attitude of Red State America, which seems to be formed chiefly of cultural insecurity.
French women do not resemble Elephant Seals. Their cheese does not come in individual, plastic-wrapped slices. They just will not bow down and embrace the profundities emanating from talk radio.

I think you meant 'English' rather than 'British' there, old chum, as the Scots have historically had pretty good relations with France. Besides, the English attitude to the snail-munching onion-Johnnies isn't meant all that seriously nowadays. It's just banter, really.

True, the rosbifs & the frogs had been at each others' throats for centuries (which the French started, by the way, because of 1066 - so really, English humour at the expense of the Philkind is just punching up.) but things improved considerably in the late 19th early 20th c largely because:

A) Edward VII was very fond of French prostitues.
B) England and France both realised that the Squareheads were probably out to be total dicks, and neither wanted sauerkraut on the menu.

B) Which was maybe undestandable from the French viewpoint, but the English? Anything is better than English cooking, or so goes the legend.

[Brive1987]

Which is of course is ridiculous. That would never happen.

[Brive1987]

Is is is is is is is is

They are everywhere.

[another lurker]

The best thing about WoW:


http://img.xooimage.com/files40/6/4/8/a ... 50c048.jpg

[Southern]

I was downtown today to help Ali get her new bus cards. All the shops and offices had a "Je Suis Charlie!" sign on their front, asking for one minute's silence at 11:59. I haven't seen the French so united in quite some time.

When 9/11 happened, the whole country had 3 minutes of silence. Same with 7/7 and Madrid. I think the extremists have made a big mistake this time.

Phil, can I borrow some on the spot insight?

American and British writers are starting to have a go at Charlie Hebdo for racism and such.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfem ... peech.html

http://t.co/nJatcoFzOH (TW: FtB)

Are these accusations sticky or are Anglophone readers missing vital context?

On a tangential note, can anyone point out a politically correct satire magazine?

You just wait for a magazine to draft Bjarte Floshaug.

[Cliché Guevara]

>Rapist footballer released from prison
>Club signs him
>People start a petition to voice their displeasure
>Club doesn't listen
>People make RAPE AND DEATH THREATS to the club in retaliation for them not listening
>Club backs down
>Club reckons if people are angry enough to make threats then they must be in the right
>MFW
http://i.imgur.com/KI4wJPn.jpg

I assume these board members aren't aware that "issuing death and rape threats" is merely how kids on the Internet these days say, "I do beg your pardon, but I simply must disagree here."

I do like the idea that threatening to visit retribution upon people whose only crime is to be related to the board members is how you signal your uncompromising moral standards. I expect the Guardian will soon be sternly admonishing these people for tarnishing the cause.

[Southern]

The best thing about WoW:


http://img.xooimage.com/files40/6/4/8/a ... 50c048.jpg

Too bad the Aspects now have virtually no impact on the story, while Green Jesus (aka Chris Metz Jr, aka Thrall) took all the credit after the Cataclysm. God, that prick is unbearable. And now I have to play Horde to raid, so I have to put up with His Baldiness (or his stupid father) popping out on my Garrison Campaign quests from time to time.

[Aneris]

http://i.imgur.com/CP1PgPe.jpg

Perfect. :D
I guess Avi didn't hang out in the Thunderdome enough.

[Tigzy]

B) Which was maybe undestandable from the French viewpoint, but the English? Anything is better than English cooking, or so goes the legend.

Aye. But the English weren't dropping any hints about force-feeding it to them at the time.

Also, the notion that English cooking is bad is a pernicious Froggy lie. We invented the bacon sandwich. That, in itself, should be ample demonstration of the quality of English cuisine.

[comhcinc]

Not enough hipster douche glasses OR blue hair.

http://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/20 ... o-fuck.png

OR

[Parody Accountant]

Not enough hipster douche glasses OR blue hair.

http://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/20 ... o-fuck.png

OR

http://m.memegen.com/fi25vv.jpg

[another lurker]

4 the ladeez, and competition for com in the mansex department:

http://www.thesuperficial.com/wp-conten ... 00x450.jpg

[Parody Accountant]

[windy]

It’s bizarre, honestly. How do ordinarily rational people get so unhinged with fear over a thing which kills absurdly small numbers of people, simply because the attackers claimed a particular religion?

And why was there such a hue and cry over the actions of Marc Lépine and Elliot Rodger, simply because they had expressed some negative opinions on women? Spree shootings kill absurdly small numbers of women. :roll:

[ROBOKiTTY]

It’s bizarre, honestly. How do ordinarily rational people get so unhinged with fear over a thing which kills absurdly small numbers of people, simply because the attackers claimed a particular religion?

And why was there such a hue and cry over the actions of Marc Lépine and Elliot Rodger, simply because they had expressed some negative opinions on women? Spree shootings kill absurdly small numbers of women. :roll:

#rekt

[Southern]

Until now, I had no idea that Charlie Hebdo was, let alone it was a satirical magazine, let alone that it had in past offended the pwecious little Prophet, Praised Be His Buttocks. I don't even speak French to understand it. I'd probably pass my entire life without having the faintest idea about it (unless Phil eventually spilled the beans).

Yet now me and literally billions of people in the same situation know exactly who the guys they killed are, the way they satirized the Pedophet, and most of us don't think it was nothing to go frothing the mouth about. The French people are, for all accounts, more angry than scared, and the anti-Muslim movement in Europe will grow stronger after that.

Bravo, shitheads. The Tumblr raid on 4chan didn't failed that hard.

[free thoughtpolice]

It’s bizarre, honestly. How do ordinarily rational people get so unhinged with fear over a thing which kills absurdly small numbers of people, simply because the attackers claimed a particular religion?

And why was there such a hue and cry over the actions of Marc Lépine and Elliot Rodger, simply because they had expressed some negative opinions on women? Spree shootings kill absurdly small numbers of women. :roll:

Well according some SJWs I'm sure that only one woman was killed at the Charlie Hebdo massacre it didn't register as being as bad.

[SpacePope]

Until now, I had no idea that Charlie Hebdo was, let alone it was a satirical magazine, let alone that it had in past offended the pwecious little Prophet, Praised Be His Buttocks. I don't even speak French to understand it. I'd probably pass my entire life without having the faintest idea about it (unless Phil eventually spilled the beans).

Yet now me and literally billions of people in the same situation know exactly who the guys they killed are, the way they satirized the Pedophet, and most of us don't think it was nothing to go frothing the mouth about. The French people are, for all accounts, more angry than scared, and the anti-Muslim movement in Europe will grow stronger after that.

Bravo, shitheads. The Tumblr raid on 4chan didn't failed that hard.

The Prophet (Gays Be Upon Him) would probably be upset at them for diverting so much attention to this magazine. Now the world has seen these cartoons, and most think they are funny. They fucked themselves roundly.

[Guestus Aurelius]

It’s bizarre, honestly. How do ordinarily rational people get so unhinged with fear over a thing which kills absurdly small numbers of people, simply because the attackers claimed a particular religion?

And why was there such a hue and cry over the actions of Marc Lépine and Elliot Rodger, simply because they had expressed some negative opinions on women? Spree shootings kill absurdly small numbers of women. :roll:

Yes, the hypocrisy is stunning, although there's some truth to what she's saying (notwithstanding her motivations and double standards). Death by mass murder is rare in the grand scheme of things, and our collective fear of it is arguably out of proportion, statistically speaking. Think of how many people have died of the flu so far this season, for instance, and how many lives are cut tragically short by car accidents and disease. We're not super rational about fear.

[Oglebart]

Just to add another layer to the hypocrisy onion in that Pharyngula thread, this is at the start of the thread from a commenter named Gussnarp, and Tony! and many others back him up.

I have never once punched anyone for insulting me, or any member of my family. Maybe we should start there. It’s obviously wrong to kill people for making insulting cartoons. But it’s also wrong to punch people for insulting you or your relatives. Maybe we all need to start at the root of the macho notions of violent reprisals that so many of us still can’t seem to grow out of. Violence, of any kind, should not be the response to speech, of any kind. There’s no such thing as “fighting words”.

So, clearly they will be taking Rebecca Watson to task for her recent Skepchick post in which she described a punch from Buzz Aldrin in response to some "words" as "glorious". Any minute now I reckon.

Maybe?

Oh, no? of course. IOWWDI.

[windy]

Yes, the hypocrisy is stunning, although there's some truth to what she's saying (notwithstanding her motivations and double standards). Death by mass murder is rare in the grand scheme of things, and our collective fear of it is arguably out of proportion, statistically speaking. Think of how many people have died of the flu so far this season, for instance, and how many lives are cut tragically short by car accidents and disease. We're not super rational about fear.

True, though IMO it makes sense to react more strongly to intentional harm compared to accidents, and to organised terror vs. lone nutcases. What baffles me is the way many people go from one extreme end of the rationalisation scale to another depending on the identity of the attacker (#yesallmen but #almostnomuslims?)

[free thoughtpolice]

From Heina Dadhaboy's blog:

Graven Images of Muhammad Should Lead to No Graves

Right around the time I started university, the original Muhammad cartoon controversy began and soon escalated into rioting and deaths. Nearly a decade later and at least a dozen more people are dead because someone drew some cartoons. Even the death of only the cartoonists in question would have been too many dead over cartoons; most who have died over the various sets of cartoons had nothing to do with any of them.

Back in 2005, I was a Muslim. Here in 2015, I’m an ex-Muslim atheist. My feelings about the cartoons are the same: They’re trashy pieces of arguable race-bait not worth killing or dying for, and the right to publish trashy race-baiting cartoons is definitely worth dying (and maybe killing?) for.

Another "Free Thought" blogger. What are the chances she has seen the cartoons much less understood them?

[Guest]

I feel your pain. I once frequented a wrestling forum and they almost never discussed the drill moves behind Napoleonic infantry tactics. I ended up leaving.

But some fun facts.

1. The correct term is "skank" or "Twatson". Terminology matters.
2. You obviously missed my Stollznow phase.
3. Watson singlehandly crafted the schism out of nothing
4. The pit formed out of the Watson schism she is our evil step mother
5. Notwithstanding I post more on Peez - but I'm not bi
6. Over the past 24 hrs TWatson's patreon went up $3.25. Thought you'd want to know.

Saying Watson created the schism credits her more than I think is warranted. It seems to me that without the presence of SJW types already in the community like PZ Myers and Greg Laden, the unpleasantness revolving around the elevator, and Watson's spat with Stef McGraw never would have amounted to much. Moreover, had Watson not come along, these assholes probably would have found something else to denounce the non-SJW people in the community about; elevatorgate was just a convenient spark to catalyze a reaction that already had all its necessary components in place.

To be honest that was humorous hyperbole. Watson had no idea what she was doing at the time. She was however canny enough to recognise an opportunity - post hoc - and created herself an 'identity'

her new identity at least

apparently being the chill girl and ignoring her own parties to hang with all the mans wasnt paying enough so she noticed the tried towards victimization feminism

[Ape+lust]

http://imgur.com/afCOZdT.jpg

[Southern]

http://imgur.com/afCOZdT.jpg

The guy in the left already has his doubts about The Prophet and Peez.

[d4m10n]

The Prophet (Gays Be Upon Him) . . .

Gods, I do wish that I could draw.

[Skep tickle]

http://i.imgur.com/CP1PgPe.jpg

:clap:

http://imgur.com/afCOZdT.jpg

:clap:

You guys are so talented. Artistry, technical skills, and satirical thrust all in top form - bravo!

[deLurch]

The Prophet (Gays Be Upon Him) . . .

Gods, I do wish that I could draw.

Learn to 'shoop. Come on d4m10n. You know you want to. One small hit.

[James Caruthers]

If we should all buy into the "Islam is a religion of peace" bullshit, then what the hell are we doing as atheists?

Islam is NOT a religion of peace, much like Christianity is NOT a religion of love.

If they say it enough times, it will become true!

[TheMan]

We were talking about sock puppets earlier. I found Phil's....

[youtube]VoKjXx0zcXU[/youtube]

It was this time a year ago I, by accident, started a mini shitstorm about thumb over the fret board technique.

You may be pleased to know that I have completed a year's worth of Guitar School lessons and back at School next week to continue my lessons. Have learnt heaps and becoming more guitarded as the months roll by. BTW, I like to mute the E string with my thumb. Skill!

In May last year I bought an electric guitar. A beautiful Cherry red Epiphone ES-339 and a couple of months ago bought a nice Fender Mustang 3 Amp.... which I couldn't really afford. Had to eat at home for a while to make up for the expense. Not sure why I bought such an amp but I'm getting urges to start a band. Probably a pipe dream but the school I go to, after much poking, agreed to host a jam night and I will be scouting for talent there.

:rimshot:

[bovarchist]

B) Which was maybe undestandable from the French viewpoint, but the English? Anything is better than English cooking, or so goes the legend.

Aye. But the English weren't dropping any hints about force-feeding it to them at the time.

Also, the notion that English cooking is bad is a pernicious Froggy lie. We invented the bacon sandwich. That, in itself, should be ample demonstration of the quality of English cuisine.

Do I really have to quote Douglas Adams on the English sandwich?

There is a feeling which persists in England that making a sandwich interesting, attractive, or in any way pleasant to eat is something sinful that only foreigners do.

"Make 'em dry" is the instruction buried somewhere in the collective national consciousness, "make 'em rubbery. If you have to keep the buggers fresh, do it by washing 'em once a week."

It is by eating sandwiches in pubs at Saturday lunchtime that the British seek to atone for whatever their national sins have been. They're not altogether clear what those sins are, and don't want to know either. Sins are not the sort of things one wants to know about. But whatever sins there are are amply atoned for by the sandwiches they make themselves eat.

[James Caruthers]

One more dropping about free speech, democracy, and IMO tolerance before I head off to work.

I think adult citizens should be allowed to vote without any lapse in that right due to felony conviction(s).

(Laws vary across the US, & I haven't looked into how other countries handle this but it's likely they're more forgiving than the USA, where felons can't vote while serving their terms, and if they can get their voting rights restored after release it's typically by making restitution. In some states, a felon can never 'earn' his or her voting rights back.)

It seems to me that for a society to be considered a democracy, no person who at one time had voting rights should have that right taken away.

IMO, people who have broken a society's laws must be among the group that gets to give feedback on, & participate to at least a limited extent in, the governing of the society, including the creation & editing of its legal system. (And, yes, I know we could argue till the cows come home about what "democracy" really means & whether any particular country claiming to be one really is.)

It's like free speech - it's precisely the "speech" that most people really don't want to hear that must be allowed to meet the idea & ideal of "free speech".

"My 2 c." - John D

I agree.

I think that the fact they have violated the law may give them a greater insight on the legal system than many who take their voting rights for granted. Perhaps there should be an appeals process to restore voting rights after commission of a felony.

In my humble opinion, if an illegal "immigrant" should be given a driver's license, then there is no reason whatsoever to prevent a felon from voting OR owning a firearm, especially as many felonies are not firearm-related.

[ROBOKiTTY]

In my humble opinion, if an illegal "immigrant" should be given a driver's license, then there is no reason whatsoever to prevent a felon from voting OR owning a firearm, especially as many felonies are not firearm-related.

I'm starting to think you're related to Uncle Parsehole.

[Garlix]

In my humble opinion, if an illegal "immigrant" should be given a driver's license, then there is no reason whatsoever to prevent a felon from voting OR owning a firearm, especially as many felonies are not firearm-related.

I'm starting to think you're related to Uncle Parsehole.

On Stardate 46309.-2, the Caruthers-Parsehole trollapse created a rip in the fabric of cyberspace, whereby the anger of the former multiplied by the cunning of the latter eradicated all sentient lifeforms as well as most twitter users within a bazillion lightyearspergigashizzle, reducing half the galaxy to a gelatinous foam of ionized matter and iridescent lulz.

Or in short: :cdc:

[Guest]

I like Bob Price, he is very knowledgeable and has a great sense of humour!

He is that geek, Robert M. Price, Robert M. Price?

[Guest]

Elyse's "Dear French people" comments show that SJW ideology can make you think that a bombing at a NAACP building which left no victims is more important than terrorist attack which killed twelves people in France, because the dead people were white cartoonists and therefore "no angels".

and was on the barbershop side of the building
and has no good suspect
and has no claimed motive
and could be an insurance ploy
or a mafioso threatening the barber for a protection racket
or a million other things

http://m.gazette.com/fbi-says-naacp-exp ... le/1544189

[Really?]

Archived link:

http://web.archive.org/web/201501082356 ... -violence/

Only read this when you're not worried about your blood pressure.

Looks like "Tentacle porn enthusiast PZ Myers" has become "Terrorist apologist and tentacle porn enthusiast PZ Myers".

[Lsuoma]

I tried posting an archive link to an article on Feministing but I keep getting an error message. Anyone know what the problem is?

The domain archive.today you have posted has been blocked because it is blacklisted. For details please see ....


An entry on the blacklist may have several reasons:
1. You are a well-known spammer.
2. Last time a well-known spammer was using the dynamic IP address which you got from your ISP (Internet Service Provider), your e-mail address or the username you have choosen.
3. Your ISP is well-known for a lot of spamming customers and is not fighting against spammers enough.

Yeah, most likely TardBlogs is using a recently closed blackhole blocklist which is flagging a metric shittonne of domains as spammy.

[dogen]

and was on the barbershop side of the building
and has no good suspect
and has no claimed motive
and could be an insurance ploy
or a mafioso threatening the barber for a protection racket
or a million other things

Who was dragged down by the stone

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Does that fetal brain have consciousness? Can it experience anguish? I can't say offhand, but if those are your actual criteria, then there are a whole lot of conscious animals who experience anguish when, say, we haul them onto the deck of a boat and they realize they are asphyxiating to death.

Having consciousness or the ability to experience anguish are different from being able to have desires. A foetus presumably has a desire to stay alive. Otherwise it would be very hard to explain how a newborn baby can clearly and loudly manifest its desire to eat, whereas a few hours early it had no desires at all.

"Desire" is too vague a concept. Grass has a "desire" to stay alive, as it keeps popping up out of the ground. A newborn crying for food is an innate behavior, and requires no consciousness. Brainless animals like jellyfish have behaviors, too. Venus Fly Traps close without thinking -- do they "desire" to eat a bug?

... if we just stopped using animals for food, for example, would lead to mass death (or to a massive waste of resources, if we decided to keep them alive just to be nice to them). Until I find a better idea, I'd suggest we should try to avoid unnecessary suffering, give the critters a decent life, and then kill them as humanely as possible.

I agree.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

What's the story with the female Norwegian soccer player in your avatar?

I identify as Gro Espeseth. This makes me Gro-kin. I'm still working on a preferred pronoun.

"grot"

[dog puke]

http://i.imgur.com/m1IaXWJ.jpg

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Virus of the Mind

[youtube]G2SqDfgtzf4[/youtube]

[Matt Cavanaugh]

and was on the barbershop side of the building
and has no good suspect
and has no claimed motive
and could be an insurance ploy
or a mafioso threatening the barber for a protection racket
or a million other things

Who was dragged down by the stone

I quite literally wore out my first copy of Animals as teenager, and had to buy another. (LP, naturally.)

[Brive1987]

I know it's been discussed. But it needs to be framed.


http://i.imgur.com/ZQkSHUd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gYUf36x.jpg

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I know it's been discussed. But it needs to be framed.


http://i.imgur.com/ZQkSHUd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gYUf36x.jpg

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I know it's been discussed. But it needs to be framed.

http://i.imgur.com/UZpwlyT.png

http://i.imgur.com/dVlcH0i.jpg

[Skep tickle]

Here's the Pharyngula thread "Making excuses for violence..." with now 141 comments: https://archive.today/se4Oq

[Brive1987]

Waiting for my train and I spot this.

I'm still processing.

http://i.imgur.com/OjCcKzg.jpg