Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#14581

James Caruthers wrote:Fuck, didn't proofread well enough.

Jesper you cunt, you better not say anything. My butt would be devastated by your cutting remarks.

James Caruthers. I accuse you of treason.

What say Ye? :ninja:

Shatterface as Guest · #14582

Tribble wrote:Ever notice how much trolls always think it's about them? The level of unaware narcissism is amazing.

My question about banning people who falsely accuse the Pit of doxxing was actually about Damion but someone else thought it was about him.

Some people are so egotistical they think they are the only bell-end we have to deal with.

Shatterface

#14583

PZ is mine, assholes.

#14584

How about a retard channel? Basically a thread where the vapid attention-seekers can be funnelled to post their content-free crap, without disrupting the adults.

#14585

ERV wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Kickstarter page:
Zvan narrates the video; full transcript is posted below it.
Conference will be held Aug 21-23, UMN West Bank (if it gets funded).
Basic goal $13K, first stretch goal $16K, 2nd stretch goal $21K. TT of G2R could learn something from them about planning for costs ;)
There's an hour session on it in FTBCon 3, will help preach it to the choir & get donations.
'Awesome.'
:bjarte:

Yeah, now that you mention it, having the conference headed by a person who 'just knows how these people act and totes can do nothing to stop them <wink> <wink> <nudge> <nudge>' when presented with a woman who doesn't walk in lock step unison with her crowd to the degree that they will start calling people's employers, universities, significant others & family is kind of a fatal flaw.

So is this a safe conference for women?

Probably best not to hand her any of your personal information.

#14586

I miss Mykeru, and his Victorola.

#14587

Speaking of the other troll, Damion, Gurdur is callong him out now on twitter over his stupid attempt to catch franc out for 'doxxing' aratina

#14588

Game over, Obama. Deal with it. 8-)

#14589

decius wrote:How about a retard channel? Basically a thread where the vapid attention-seekers can be funnelled to post their content-free crap, without disrupting the adults.

A padded room for lunatics?
We could call it the Thunderdome.

#14590

I'm so fucking done with Americans.

Amateurs.

#14591

Snapfingers wrote:If I were to be technical (i'm a lawyer) his false accusations are criminal that would be bannable. But I'm not going down that road. My suggestion of of putting on a cooling period was for his own sake. Advocating violence and spouting extremist hate get folks in trouble. Give him time to lay down the pipe and gather his thoughts for a week or two.

My far less qualified understanding is that the false accusations would at best be a civil lawsuit, and not a criminal offense in US law. As in no officer in the US would arrest anyone for his accusations unless of course he reported those accusations to law enforcement, and it mattered for an investigation (I also don't think cops are going to arrest you for telling a cop you caught a fish this big).

#14592

deLurch wrote:
ERV wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Kickstarter page:
Zvan narrates the video; full transcript is posted below it.
Conference will be held Aug 21-23, UMN West Bank (if it gets funded).
Basic goal $13K, first stretch goal $16K, 2nd stretch goal $21K. TT of G2R could learn something from them about planning for costs ;)
There's an hour session on it in FTBCon 3, will help preach it to the choir & get donations.
'Awesome.'
:bjarte:
Yeah, now that you mention it, having the conference headed by a person who 'just knows how these people act and totes can do nothing to stop them <wink> <wink> <nudge> <nudge>' when presented with a woman who doesn't walk in lock step unison with her crowd to the degree that they will start calling people's employers, universities, significant others & family is kind of a fatal flaw.

So is this a safe conference for women?

Probably best not to hand her any of your personal information.

I doubt most of them think about what could be done with that personal info. That they could be the next target. They never seem to realize it can happen to them, that suddenly they might be outgroup. At least not the rank-and-file. I think Benson realizes it now, and she may well feel trapped. Or not, but I'm sure she realizes she is walking the knife's edge.

#14593

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: I doubt most of them think about what could be done with that personal info. That they could be the next target. They never seem to realize it can happen to them, that suddenly they might be outgroup. At least not the rank-and-file. I think Benson realizes it now, and she may well feel trapped. Or not, but I'm sure she realizes she is walking the knife's edge.

Of course, the hilarious thing is that she helped sharpen the knife that's now likely to gash her... erm... cunt?

#14594

Jesper wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:Fuck, didn't proofread well enough.

Jesper you cunt, you better not say anything. My butt would be devastated by your cutting remarks.
James Caruthers. I accuse you of treason.

What say Ye? :ninja:

Have at thee, varlet!

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/ ... ebf5a0.jpg

#14595

Jesper wrote:PZ is mine, assholes.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... retard.gif

#14596

Dick Strawkins wrote:Speaking of the other troll, Damion, Gurdur is callong him out now on twitter over his stupid attempt to catch franc out for 'doxxing' aratina

He's so anxious to do his stupid "gotcha game", I doubt he realizes how fundamentally stupid he looks to everybody involved. His obsession with trying to prove the pit doxxes seems to have lead him to a huge confirmation bias and a cringe-worthy lack of self-awareness. Or maybe he's just a huge cunt. Or both.

#14597

JacquesCuze wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KGgntXe.png

We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly.

> be adria richards
> be a female faggot
> have a pretty lame career
> one day, decide to ruin everything because of a dongle joke
> decide to double it down instead of apologizing for being such a prick
> ride the popularity while getting easy shekels from stupid SJW
> one day /b/ notices you
> get pwn3d
> complain about it on twitter
> mfw dumb autists from /b/ are a major problem

SoylentAtheist · #14598

MacGruberKnows wrote:What are the rules for banning around here? I'm pretty liberal about not banning, but the person in question has to be engaged with the community in some meaningful way. Jesper is a troll. He wants a shit fight. Why are you people giving him one?

'Trolling' in and of itself is not an offense. The one hurdle for an accusation of trolling is telling the difference between someone who is genuinely stupid, obstinate, obtuse or an asshole from someone is actively attempting to so discord or cause strife for no other reason than kicks. As we have seen, far too many people erroneously call troll when the other person simply just disagrees strongly on issues they feel strongly about. He of course admitted that he is trolling here, so the hurdle has clearly been met.

And then on the other side of the coin, is trolling always really a such a egregious crime. Myrku posted plenty of shit pics here and we all managed to get by. He also behaved erratically and stirred up shit for the sake of stirring up shit. And yet we still managed. Some people play heavy on being the devil's advocate. Sometimes for fun. Other times to get someone's goat. I guess a key difference is that most of these activities are limited in lifespan, and people eventually just let it go, or provide an obvious tell in order to assure the audience that it is just a game. And yet, through out all of this, we get along just fine.

The simple ability for each person who has an account to set someone that have 'had it up to here' with on ignore really is an effective tool. Yeah, there is some bleed over when people respond. Especially with a new chew toy in play. But we still end up doing OK in the long run.

So a case for banning self-admitted 'Trolls' could be made. But it is so limited in application and the tools already at our disposal are effective enough, I don't think it is worth it. Especially since we would probably have to suffer through streams of arguments about why 'X' person is a troll and thus should be band, or the other slew of arguments that come up when Parody Account admits to the board he was just 'trolling' me about fucking my mother.

(Just joking about the Parody Account, fucking my mother bit... this does not count as an admission of trolling.)

#14599

James Caruthers wrote:
Southern wrote:The cross between Nec_V20 and Walter Ego you were all asking for, people. Concocted from the depths of /pol/ just to try and waste your time. Enjoy!
I'd laugh a lot more if the kid would channel /pol/ more frequently.

Also, right now /pol/'s level of discourse is several orders of magnitude higher than the Pit. Confirm for yourself if you don't believe me.

... Fullchan pol of course. Not Cuckchan.

It depends. Do you consider 9/11 conspiracy level of discourse higher than what is discussed on the Pit?

Don't get me wrong, I love to laugh reading about how the Jew are grabbing all the shekels while the true Aryan youth is losing itself among vidya and porn instead of being alpha and spreading their superior seed to repopulate Europe. But I think something I read somewhere (can't find the source anymore):

"Typical /pol/tard: thinks he's Red Pill and fighting degeneracy, but all he does is shitpost and smell bad".

Not that is a bad thing per se, mind you. Good shitposting is fun to read.

#14600

Southern wrote:
James Caruthers wrote: I'd laugh a lot more if the kid would channel /pol/ more frequently.

Also, right now /pol/'s level of discourse is several orders of magnitude higher than the Pit. Confirm for yourself if you don't believe me.

... Fullchan pol of course. Not Cuckchan.
It depends. Do you consider 9/11 conspiracy level of discourse higher than what is discussed on the Pit?

The conspiracy mongering is one of the things that's struck me thus far (started reading 8chan recently, trying to get my head around things there in case KiA gets banned and I need to switch GamerGate hubs). Though "conspiracy mongering" is putting too strongly. There's just a strong culture of paranoia from what I've seen, a willingness to take seriously ideas I can't help but find outlandish.

SoylentAtheist · #14601

Southern wrote:They threw Shanley in the same hole that the Stop Colbert douche went (shit, I already forgot her name; you know, Clarence's darling). Too stupid and crazy even for the SJW to handle.

You mean they gave her the Melody Hensley treatment.

"Hey, yeah. You are fine... ha, ha... yes, we are still friends." (Please don't stalk me. Please don't stalk me.)
"You are still inviting us to your conference right? Good. Welp, talk to you later."
"Ah, no more conferences this year? Never mind what we are up to. It's a super secret project."
"Why did you not get an invite to our new conference? Oh, well um, we've just been so busy. Oh, look at that, more work to do. Gotta go!"
"Ignoring you? No of course we are not ignoring you. Yes, we are still friends. Can't talk long now, I've got some, um, stuff to take care of."

SoylentAtheist · #14602

Southern wrote:Serious question: what's the legal difference between murder and "induced suicide" (as in, someone forces you to shoot yourself in the head)?

Don't do it Southern. You actually contribute to the discourse here. Just ignore the troll.

#14603

deLurch wrote:
ERV wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Kickstarter page:
Zvan narrates the video; full transcript is posted below it.
Conference will be held Aug 21-23, UMN West Bank (if it gets funded).
Basic goal $13K, first stretch goal $16K, 2nd stretch goal $21K. TT of G2R could learn something from them about planning for costs ;)
There's an hour session on it in FTBCon 3, will help preach it to the choir & get donations.
'Awesome.'
:bjarte:
Yeah, now that you mention it, having the conference headed by a person who 'just knows how these people act and totes can do nothing to stop them <wink> <wink> <nudge> <nudge>' when presented with a woman who doesn't walk in lock step unison with her crowd to the degree that they will start calling people's employers, universities, significant others & family is kind of a fatal flaw.

So is this a safe conference for women?

Probably best not to hand her any of your personal information.

This conference isn't just for women. The blurb says it is for women and genderqueer. The assumption must therefore be there will be a number of penis-attached attendees. Can't wait to see the toilet signs.

#14604

Pathetic. :violin:

#14605

Oh, and PZ, I'll see you later.

#14606

:ninja:

SoylentAtheist · #14607

Tony Parsehole wrote:A gift for our resident BBW fan, James Caruthers.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7zhVhBCYAA3-Dd.jpg
"I'm actually a mermaid"

It's the small things in life help encourage one to stick to your diet.

#14608

Some more lulz as the truth about shanley comes out.

http://blog.ameliagreenhall.com/post/wh ... anley-kane

http://i.imgur.com/pJyBXw2.png

On a related tangent, this week there was some nprish interview with Glenn Close. Fine, I like Glenn Close. The interview was announced with voice over guy saying so and so was interviewing Glenn Close, known for Fatal Attraction and for playing Cruella DeVille. Then cut to a Glenn Close voice over where she is saying that strong women are often perceived as evil, but she doesn't see them that way. Of course, people who boil pet bunnies and make coats out of dalmatians are well more than just strong, but usually downright evil. That's not to pick on Close, that's to pick on idiots who make blurbs for upcoming interviews by jamming together unrelated media clips.

#14609

SoylentAtheist wrote:Especially with a new chew toy in play.

I dislike this metaphor and I've heard it used here a couple of times. I dislike it because I've read it a zillion times at #FTBullies and other SJW hangouts. I get what everyone is saying, but mostly what I hear from my own personal experiences with this metaphor is "everything that guys says is absolutely wrong, and our fantabulously bright warriors will put an end to him." I typically find the people who say this sort of crap to be totally full of shit. In general.

I don't have a better metaphor. Just be careful you're not fooling yourself.

I don't know what Jesper's problem is, but he is annoying, and he is the one and only person I ignore at this place.

#14610

This idea has probably been floated before, but is the SJW phenomenon a result of the internet allowing people with conditions like BPD the option to congregate instead of integrating with normal society? I personally know a few people as crazy as Shanely, but I've never seen them go into business together.

#14611

Jesper is a troll. Or he's genuinely crazy. Regardless, I think it's safe to say that, in his case, "everthing that guy says is absolutely wrong". At any rate, like you, he's the only person I have on ignore.

#14612

[youtube]9odBeuK251o[/youtube]

SoylentAtheist · #14613

Southern wrote:
JacquesCuze wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KGgntXe.png

We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly.

> be adria richards
> be a female faggot
> have a pretty lame career
> one day, decide to ruin everything because of a dongle joke
> decide to double it down instead of apologizing for being such a prick
> ride the popularity while getting easy shekels from stupid SJW
> one day /b/ notices you
> get pwn3d
> complain about it on twitter
> mfw dumb autists from /b/ are a major problem

One thing she fails to recognize is that the group from 4 chan that were bashing her online were not just 'a group of men.' More than half the audience of 4chan is women, and plenty of women seem to enjoy the raid culture as much as the men. So blaming it on just a group of men is a sexist accusation & assumption from her.

#14614

Southern wrote: Good shitposting is fun to read.

That's all I'm saying.

The Pit hasn't even risen to that level.

http://i.imgur.com/LMLgg.jpg

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 55/78a.png

#14615

jet_lagg wrote:This idea has probably been floated before, but is the SJW phenomenon a result of the internet allowing people with conditions like BPD the option to congregate instead of integrating with normal society? I personally know a few people as crazy as Shanely, but I've never seen them go into business together.

I don't think that's the whole case (but certainly it's part of it).

With the rise of social media, what you have is a situation where social capital/power/influence is much more important, and yes, sometimes even lucrative for the average person than it was in the past. For that particular community, they've decided to adopt the notion of social justice as one of the major flags to indicate and grow one's social capital. It's a way to easily differentiate the in-group from the out-group, and at the same time give the in-group something to compete over.

It's all incredibly toxic.

#14616

Ready when you are, Israel.

And get it done. They will not relent.

#14617

JacquesCuze wrote:Some more lulz as the truth about shanley comes out.

http://blog.ameliagreenhall.com/post/wh ... anley-kane

http://i.imgur.com/pJyBXw2.png

Oh my, big lulz. The author, Amelia Greenhall, was the original founder of Model View Culture; she asked Shanley to join her as a co-founder. Fast forward a few months, and Amelia quit MVC because Shanley was abusing her (... yelling, excuses that the yelling was just because she needed me so much, her demands that I isolate myself from my friends...). Then, Shanley proceeded to erase Amelia from MVC's history, as if she had never existed let alone been the founder.

Shanley really is a despicable turd.

#14618

jet_lagg wrote:
The conspiracy mongering is one of the things that's struck me thus far (started reading 8chan recently, trying to get my head around things there in case KiA gets banned and I need to switch GamerGate hubs). Though "conspiracy mongering" is putting too strongly. There's just a strong culture of paranoia from what I've seen, a willingness to take seriously ideas I can't help but find outlandish.

At least half of them are trolling.

>being on pol
>not trolling
>thinking troll posts on pol are legit
>2015

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 22/839.png

BTW the JIDF is a real thing... on pol at least. :lol:

#14619

I'm a nationalist to the extent I think countries should put their local, national interests ahead of the global economy. Our shit is too connected right now and we need to get back to developing local economies in case the global economic system falls apart.

Strong borders, imo, are a part of a strong nation. I'm all for widening the path to legal immigration, but illegal immigration must not be tolerated. It's not just innocent, starry-eyed families who immigrate illegally. Many criminals, cartel members and cartel affiliates come over illegally as well, and they bring their drugs and guns with them.

Most so-called "liberal" countries nevertheless have much stronger borders and harsher penalties for illegal immigration than the USA. Funny how that never seems to make its way into the discussion when we're being told we need to throw our borders wide open and make everyone a citizen by default.

SoylentAtheist · #14620

JacquesCuze wrote:
SoylentAtheist wrote:Especially with a new chew toy in play.
I dislike this metaphor and I've heard it used here a couple of times. I dislike it because I've read it a zillion times at #FTBullies and other SJW hangouts. I get what everyone is saying, but mostly what I hear from my own personal experiences with this metaphor is "everything that guys says is absolutely wrong, and our fantabulously bright warriors will put an end to him." I typically find the people who say this sort of crap to be totally full of shit. In general.

I don't have a better metaphor. Just be careful you're not fooling yourself.

I don't know what Jesper's problem is, but he is annoying, and he is the one and only person I ignore at this place.

I will agree that 'chew toy' is not exactly a great metaphore. Simply 'toy' perhaps? Something, bright shinny, new and really noisy like a kid's toy. Can't resist playing with it for a while until you realize it isn't that much fun, it only has one trick.

Self admitted trolls like Jesper, are kind of like an infection. Starts off slowly, causes a lot of disturbance at first, body temperature rises as it infects more and more people. But as the infection annoys more and more people, they learn it is better just to ignore it, and it all dies down.

#14621

SJW's Bwahahahahahahah! :lol: 8-)

#14622

dogen wrote: Then, Shanley proceeded to erase Amelia from MVC's history, as if she had never existed let alone been the founder.

Shanley really is a despicable turd.

Much as she erased the existence of the alleged rapist in her midst. A pattern of behavior emerges...

#14623

James Caruthers wrote:
>being on pol
>not trolling
>thinking troll posts on pol are legit
>2015

I'm inclined to agree with you, mostly. I didn't understand a fucking word of what was just quoted, for example, beyond recognizing the idiosyncratic formatting. Part of me can never shake the suspicion that trolls are never truly trolling, though. Like Nelly line:

"I got friend with a pole in the basement"
"What??"
"I'm just kidding like Jason."
"Oh..."
"... unless you're gonna do it."

#14624

JacquesCuze wrote:
SoylentAtheist wrote:Especially with a new chew toy in play.
I dislike this metaphor and I've heard it used here a couple of times. I dislike it because I've read it a zillion times at #FTBullies and other SJW hangouts. I get what everyone is saying, but mostly what I hear from my own personal experiences with this metaphor is "everything that guys says is absolutely wrong, and our fantabulously bright warriors will put an end to him." I typically find the people who say this sort of crap to be totally full of shit. In general.

I don't have a better metaphor. Just be careful you're not fooling yourself.

I don't know what Jesper's problem is, but he is annoying, and he is the one and only person I ignore at this place.

Jew goy?

#14625

James Caruthers wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Holt v. Hobbs, anyone?

As much as I think Alito and Scalia are religious nutters, it's clear that many liberals (including some â€™pitters) were completely off-base when they insisted that the Court's conservative justices only ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby because the company's owners are Christians.

I said it at the time, and I'll say it again: the effect of the Hobby Lobby decision sucks, but it was the right decision legally, since the US government was already granting exemptions to religiously affiliated entities and providing coverage directly as an alternative (i.e., a "less restrictive means").

The problem is RFRA and the incompetent senators who passed it while apparently ignorant of the rather important stipulation in 1 U.S. Code Â§ 1 that, in the context of Acts of Congress, "the words 'person' and 'whoever' include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals."

How about we just have no religious exemptions, period?

Ginsburg's concurring opinion today is reasonable, but unfortunately it's only a political statement that has no legal basis whatsoever:

Unlike the exemption this Court approved in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., 573 U. S. ___ (2014), accommodating petitionerâ€™s religious belief in this case would not detrimentally affect others who do not share petitionerâ€™s belief. ... On that understanding, I join the Courtâ€™s opinion.
... And I agreed with the Hobby Lobby decision. I think it's unreasonable to expect your employer to cover all costs associated with living. That's what a paycheck is for. Valenti wants to make tampons paid for by the government/your employer as well. This is a strategy which essentially amounts to "give me free stuff because Patriarchy."

On the MRA side, I rarely/never hear an argument that condoms should be paid for by the government/the employer. A more cynical man might suggest something about men vs women when it comes to feeling entitled to shit that doesn't belong to you.

Incidentally, Hobby Lobby IIRC was willing to provide something like 16 types of birth control, but because it wasn't willing to provide absolutely everything for free, feminists and SJWs got pissed off. What kind of prick acts like that?

Incidentally, my place of employment provides zero free birth control to me. I have to buy it with my money that I earn. I'M SO OPPRESS

Once more, Doug Stanhope offers wisdom...

Doug Stanhope wrote:Do I get benefits? Yeah, I get benefits. Sometimes after a show a chick will blow me for no reason. Then I take the money I saved and pay for my own dental insurance.

SoylentAtheist · #14626

Snapfingers wrote:Yes, as I told you, my interest in the Radford case was what brought me here to begin with. I lurked for a few weeks and then posted a few questions. i haven't been very active [looks at postcount, then at yours.]

So any thoughts on the case?

I am not involved in the case in any way. And I understand all the normal disqualifications e.g. your words don't constitute legal advise and don't count as an establishment of an attorney client relationship, blah-blah-blah. Just interested in the opinions of a more knowledgeable person both from a law perspective and with a potential understand of the typical mill these types of cases go through.

The best I can take away from the case is:
1. There is a 99+% chance they will settle out of court or just drop their mutual cases against each other.
2. You probably won't be able to tell much since you don't have all of the information that the lawyers have.
3. The shit show will end when one side runs out of money that they are willing to spend, thus making the other side the more or less victor of the out of court settlement.
4. Given sufficient time, access to words, money & motivation, both sides can find more than enough things to sue each other over to ensure this never ends. (Money being the limiting factor).

#14627

Heavy Metal has come a long way since...

[youtube]qbE0X5mC13A[/youtube]

#14628

screwtape wrote:Whilst Damion has managed to succinctly prove what people have said of him is completely true, and Jesper continues to illustrate why cannabinoids should not be consumed by the very young, Makayla Sault has died of her leukemia. I got this past the Globe's moderators:
Screen Shot 2015-01-20 at 9.15.08 AM.png
It's a disgrace that reflects badly on us. Let down by parents who were unable to act in her best interests and let down by a legal system that respected the fact she was aboriginal more than her right to live. Any other aboriginal child in the same predicament know must know that the court system will not save them from an untimely death, while it would do so if they were of any other race. Justice Ontario - doing our bit for genocide.

I read a post on this tragic case at WEIT. One of the med school classes is currently studying a unit on hematology, and I'm very tempted to contact the course directors about using this example as a discussion case study ... not so much for the ALL information, but more for the medical ethics/disastrous "cultural sensitivity" aspects. I'm noticing an insidious trend towards "traditional and spiritual ways of knowing and healing," and there's always been a very strong godbothering contingent amongst the clinicians (and, for that matter, basic scientists) here. Drives me nuts.

#14629

James Caruthers wrote:On the MRA side, I rarely/never hear an argument that condoms should be paid for by the government/the employer. A more cynical man might suggest something about men vs women when it comes to feeling entitled to shit that doesn't belong to you.

Incidentally, Hobby Lobby IIRC was willing to provide something like 16 types of birth control, but because it wasn't willing to provide absolutely everything for free, feminists and SJWs got pissed off. What kind of prick acts like that?

On your first point, there is no condition that I know of for which the recommended treatment involves the use of a condom, nor is getting someone else pregnant a medical risk for males. There are, in contrast, several medical issues for which the use of progesterone - i.e., the "pill" - is a recommended treatment and becoming pregnant can be a serious medical risk for some women.

On your second point, most feminist SJWs are assholes; what pissing them off is irrelevant.

#14630

Billie from Ockham wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:On the MRA side, I rarely/never hear an argument that condoms should be paid for by the government/the employer. A more cynical man might suggest something about men vs women when it comes to feeling entitled to shit that doesn't belong to you.

Incidentally, Hobby Lobby IIRC was willing to provide something like 16 types of birth control, but because it wasn't willing to provide absolutely everything for free, feminists and SJWs got pissed off. What kind of prick acts like that?
On your first point, there is no condition that I know of for which the recommended treatment involves the use of a condom, nor is getting someone else pregnant a medical risk for males. There are, in contrast, several medical issues for which the use of progesterone - i.e., the "pill" - is a recommended treatment and becoming pregnant can be a serious medical risk for some women.

On your second point, most feminist SJWs are assholes; what pissing them off is irrelevant.

Call me crazy, but I think the majority of people who want free birth control (of ALL types, because remember that was the original complaint, not that the business wouldn't pay for any birth control) do not require birth control to treat a medical condition.

#14631

Billie from Ockham wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:On the MRA side, I rarely/never hear an argument that condoms should be paid for by the government/the employer. A more cynical man might suggest something about men vs women when it comes to feeling entitled to shit that doesn't belong to you.

Incidentally, Hobby Lobby IIRC was willing to provide something like 16 types of birth control, but because it wasn't willing to provide absolutely everything for free, feminists and SJWs got pissed off. What kind of prick acts like that?
On your first point, there is no condition that I know of for which the recommended treatment involves the use of a condom, nor is getting someone else pregnant a medical risk for males. There are, in contrast, several medical issues for which the use of progesterone - i.e., the "pill" - is a recommended treatment and becoming pregnant can be a serious medical risk for some women.

On your second point, most feminist SJWs are assholes; what pissing them off is irrelevant.

Clearly, there's no HIV on your planet. Must be nice for you.

#14632

Shut the fuck up, guys ( and gals ). I'm thinking. :ninja:

#14633

Tony Parsehole wrote:A gift for our resident BBW fan, James Caruthers.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7zhVhBCYAA3-Dd.jpg
"I'm actually a mermaid"

Is this what PZ dreamed of?

#14634

SoylentAtheist wrote:
Southern wrote:Serious question: what's the legal difference between murder and "induced suicide" (as in, someone forces you to shoot yourself in the head)?
Don't do it Southern. You actually contribute to the discourse here. Just ignore the troll.

No,that wasn't about the troll. I was thinking about the Alberto Nisman case in Argentina. The official word is, of course, that the guy commited suicide, but there were high ups there talking about the hypothesis that it may have been "induced suicide" - that someone forced the guy to shoot himself in exchange for not going after his family or something like that. It's a mess, and Christina Kirchner's tendency to hide information (like the official inflation index) doesn't help to make things clear.

#14635

dogen wrote:
Clearly, there's no HIV on your planet. Must be nice for you.

Damn, I didn't even think of that.

Considering the elevated risk of HIV, any man who comes out as gay or bisexual should have a medical right to free condoms provided by his place of employement! :dance:

Check your privilege, fecal barons!

#14636

Dick Strawkins wrote:Speaking of the other troll, Damion, Gurdur is callong him out now on twitter over his stupid attempt to catch franc out for 'doxxing' aratina

Gurdur doesn't sit on the fence when dispensing disdain, he sits on a cloud.

#14637

James Caruthers wrote:
dogen wrote:
Clearly, there's no HIV on your planet. Must be nice for you.
Damn, I didn't even think of that.

Considering the elevated risk of HIV, any man who comes out as gay or bisexual should have a medical right to free condoms provided by his place of employement! :dance:

Check your privilege, fecal barons!

Also, all furries should have free dry-cleaning for their outfits. 'Cause jism-basted fur is a biohazard, amirite?

#14638

So, SJW's. How are we going to handle them?

One by one as it's done? Or not at all?

Your call.

#14639

James Caruthers wrote:I'm a nationalist to the extent I think countries should put their local, national interests ahead of the global economy. Our shit is too connected right now and we need to get back to developing local economies in case the global economic system falls apart.

Strong borders, imo, are a part of a strong nation. I'm all for widening the path to legal immigration, but illegal immigration must not be tolerated. It's not just innocent, starry-eyed families who immigrate illegally. Many criminals, cartel members and cartel affiliates come over illegally as well, and they bring their drugs and guns with them.

Most so-called "liberal" countries nevertheless have much stronger borders and harsher penalties for illegal immigration than the USA. Funny how that never seems to make its way into the discussion when we're being told we need to throw our borders wide open and make everyone a citizen by default.

I like the Netherlands-Belgium model of national borders:

http://flyingnorth.net/wp-content/theme ... w=634&zc=1

Or, more local for me, at least:

http://mochilabrasil.uol.com.br/wp-cont ... G_4722.jpg

Just cross the street, welcome to another country. Of course that won't work with all borders (specially if one the countries involved are suffering from hardships - Mexico and it's civil war, for example), but it's a model that I wish became more widespread. I really don't care about national identity (as if any country's national identity survives more than a few decades, specially after the internet connected everybody and their cultures), and I don't mind immigrants as long as they're behaving like regular citizens causing no problems.

#14640

dogen wrote:
Clearly, there's no HIV on your planet. Must be nice for you.

Isn't HIV that disease the infamous dr. Smith from the Slymepit is working on helping to develop a new type of treatment? Clearly it's a tool of the patriarchy.