Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Happy birthday Aneris!

[Ape+lust]

Largely thanks to Captain Custard Cannon of the Intellectual Artillery, it has taken me nearly two hours to catch up.

What's just dawned on me is that Carrier is only a couple of years older than I am. If this is a glimpse of the future, please, you all have permission to shoot me.

And, Ape? When I saw Dread Peezthulu pop up at the bottom of that gif, I think I felt something tear in my abdomen. You brilliant muthafucka, you :clap:

Eeeps! So not worthy. Arigato, G-spot! :dance: :D

I like Carrier, but I really miss Laden. I miss his befuddlement after he'd blow his foot off. Carrier might recognize a mistake as a glitch in the Matrix, or some other abstraction that doesn't have anything to do with him.

[Ape+lust]

If Carrier wants to make real cash instead of the pittance he gets on the lecture circuit:

http://imgur.com/rljSkOW.jpg

[Ape+lust]

Happy birthday Aneris!

Really? Tanjoobi Omedeto Gozaimasu, Aneris-chan! You make this place worthwhile.

[Couch]

Ape, yer killing me!

Latest instalment of Sam Harris's Waking Up podcast is really engrossing:

[quote][In this episode, Sam Harris speaks with Megan Phelps-Roper, granddaughter of Fred Phelps of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church./quote]

http://www.samharris.org/podcast

She's articulate; and impressively analytical and detached about her life in WBC and the role of the Bible in its stuctures, beliefs no mores. It's fascinating listening.

[Couch]

Ape, it's the attention to detail which separates the master from the appreciate, you from the pretenders:

"HETROSEXUAL ENTERTAINMENT ONLY. NOT FOR GAY USE"

:clap:

[feathers]

Zvan is the kind of person who would be pretty comfortable as a middle-management cog in an authoritarian machine. She could be a regional supervisor in a SJW "utopic" regime. PZ is a "useful idiot" who would be nominally kept in the high places but wouldn't get any real power, Ophelia would a member of the old revolutionary guard who would probably one of the first before the wall once the revolution ends, TiBo is a perfect example of the "model ally" (a.k.a. cannon fodder), Carrier is a profiteer, Avi is a nutcase who they'd get rid of pretty soon, Brayton would probably be assigned a thankless job as a common citizen, Physio would write some propaganda as a lower scribe.

Zvan is really the only one who could amount to something. She's not creative and charismatic enough to be an ideologue, but middle-management fits her perfectly.

So more like an Eichmann, or more like a Heydrich?

[Keating]

When legalisation and regulation occur, the winners can include the sex workers, the health care system from reduced std/hiv infection and violence, and the government (often at local/municipal level) coffers - from licensing and compliance income as well as decreased expenditure on policing, prohibition, prosecution and incarceration.

I prefer decriminalisation as a model, not legalisation. i.e. Look to New Zealand or New South Wales for best practice on prostitution, not Holland, Nevada or Victoria (Aus).

[SoylentAtheist]

When legalisation and regulation occur, the winners can include the sex workers, the health care system from reduced std/hiv infection and violence, and the government (often at local/municipal level) coffers - from licensing and compliance income as well as decreased expenditure on policing, prohibition, prosecution and incarceration.

I prefer decriminalisation as a model, not legalisation. i.e. Look to New Zealand or New South Wales for best practice on prostitution, not Holland, Nevada or Victoria (Aus).

What is the problem with how Nevada's legalization is run (for the counties where it is legal)? I thought that was a success story.

[Keating]

Sometimes I wonder if my life would have been better if I didn't know what an Alaskan Pipeline was.

[feathers]

Bourne Skeptic wrote:

I use to live in Campbell River and my Mom and Step Dad lived north of Comox near Bates Beach.
I know a lot of people around there. It's a small world indeed.

That's my hood (generally). If God existed it would be God's country! :drool: :drool:

You mean it's the preferred place for omnipotent psychopaths to stay?

[rayshul]

Well, fuck you very much, Keating.

[Keating]

What is the problem with how Nevada's legalization is run (for the counties where it is legal)? I thought that was a success story.

It's better than nothing, but it does require prostitutes to be virtual prisoners inside brothels whose ability to come and go is somewhat controlled by the brothel owner while they're employed. It also still prohibits prostitutes working together (for safety), or independently. Basically, it's still illegal except in brothels in a very small number of counties.

Alternatively, in New Zealand, any number of people can come to any sort of mutually agreeable transaction anywhere in the country. And if there is a failure to pay, the police will come along, and escort the client to an ATM watch them withdraw money and then escort them to properly pay the provider. And, of course, the police take seriously any non-agreed upon sex act (i.e. sorry wrong hole is treated the way most people would expect, to say the least).

[Keating]

Well, fuck you very much, Keating.

Um, I'm saying New Zealand is the best system?

[rayshul]

Well, fuck you very much, Keating.

Um, I'm saying New Zealand is the best system?

No, asshole, I just looked up an Alaskan Pipeline.

[rayshul]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

[Keating]

Blame Lsuoma on the page I started catching up from when I got home. I was too scared to look up "Cleveland Steamers" afterwards.

[Service Dog]

At the height of Mayor Bloomberg's do-gooder policies (attempting to ban sales of large sodas, anti -smoking), I dated a city commissioner assigned to those campaigns. Prostitution came-up in conversation & I said some generic opinion in favor of it being legal & regulated. She said, "Or not regulated.". Which surprised me. I expected her to be in favor of govt involvement. I realized I had voiced the opinion I thought she'd favor. I didn't expect her Overton Window to extend far further toward freedom than mine. So I instantly felt 'permission' to consider unregulated prostitution an option... And it seems the best one.

[Scented Nectar]

This is not a gag - but the weather forecast from yesterday.

http://i.imgur.com/7RguQb8.jpg

That's not the kind of smoke I picture when I think of Vancouver.

[Tribble]

Well, it looks like the whiny crybaby Taurus Moosa is already back on Twitter. He just couldn't sick the flounce. He is slowing his SJW stupidity, and sound like a second rate imitation of Full McIntosh. A sample:
[tweet]
/tweet]
[tweet]
[tweet]

And on and on in the same vain. What a fucking whiny, insufferable, twat he is.

Common, narcissistic, garden-variety bigot, possessing the empathy of a stone, who thinks he's special. Classic SJW, really.

[Za-zen]

Thanks Skep for the Link! https://archive.is/ChFYb

I shall avoid a tome. As stated previously, I am classically liberal (more commonly described in modern parlance as libertarian) with regards to my belief on what limits the state should place on the behaviors of individuals. My political positions on this are shaped by my acceptance of the "harm principle" clearly described by Mills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_principle

Where SJW's start to get lost in the woods, and veer off down the runaway slope of totalitarianism, is their rejection of Mills, and redefinition of harm to include such subjective "harms" such as "offense". Demanding the state legislate to curtail freedoms which are in opposition to their political beliefs. Mirroring the totalitarian right, who also reject Mills, using an argument of collective economies to demand limitations on personal liberty, and demand the state legislate to curtail freedoms which are in opposition to their political worldview.

To Carrier:

Sex is fundamentally viewed as being distinct from other behaviors humans engage in. It is for that very reason that a premium tariff is attached to assaults aggravated with sex over for example, assaults aggravated with notions of bodily harm such as a black eye. Carrier, and his fellow SJWs wish to hold two contrary positions simultaneously. Sex is special in some instances, while not being in others.

Quote; "All this kind of logic is fallacious because it enshrines sex as somehow sacred and different from other human behaviors, which is a distinctively religious thing to do"

For Richard's benefit, non payment of a sex worker for the services they provide, is not viewed as a civil tort issue, even in jurisdictions where said sex service provision is legal. We commonly refer to it as rape. You know that very,very, very special despicable assault on another, categorized by sjws as being an offense comparable, if not more horrific than homicide.

Quote; "In the first instance, I see that Taslima relies a lot on Old School Feminism (which we sent packing years ago; we’re in Third Wave Feminism now"

Just throwing the above quote in for the benefit of Aron Ra, who spouts the utter twaddle that "feminism is just the idea that women are equal".

The SJW position on sex work relies on the flawed philosophy of dualism, wherein the person and their body are separate. The body and "person" are not separate, the person is an emergent property of the physical body, that is why the notion that you are "renting the sex workers body not them" is utterly nonsense. When exchanging cash for sex, you are purchasing that person for a period of time. This is fundamentally different from hiring other services from a person, such as a chef, food server, barman, cheeseburger flipper. The service provision is in fact separate from the person in those instances, the product, a cheeseburger is not an integral part of the human body in any anatomical study.

Anyway that is enough of a chunk to get going with. My position is in favor of letting people who want to sell sex, sell sex, I attempt also to understand, that sex itself, is fundamentally different than cheeseburger making. Hence why as a society we view theft of sexual service as a serious criminal act, whilst non payment for cheeseburger making as a misdemeanor.

[Cunning Punt]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

Too late. :hankey:

Nobody does that.

[Tribble]

Zvan is the kind of person who would be pretty comfortable as a middle-management cog in an authoritarian machine. She could be a regional supervisor in a SJW "utopic" regime. PZ is a "useful idiot" who would be nominally kept in the high places but wouldn't get any real power, Ophelia would a member of the old revolutionary guard who would probably one of the first before the wall once the revolution ends, TiBo is a perfect example of the "model ally" (a.k.a. cannon fodder), Carrier is a profiteer, Avi is a nutcase who they'd get rid of pretty soon, Brayton would probably be assigned a thankless job as a common citizen, Physio would write some propaganda as a lower scribe.

Zvan is really the only one who could amount to something. She's not creative and charismatic enough to be an ideologue, but middle-management fits her perfectly.

So more like an Eichmann, or more like a Heydrich?

Too high up.

[Tribble]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

lol. I stay away from learning the definitions of pretty much all sex slang now.

[SM12]

You have to pay for sex-workers?

So that was what Carrier meant about making a deposit up front!

[Brive1987]

Zvan is the kind of person who would be pretty comfortable as a middle-management cog in an authoritarian machine. She could be a regional supervisor in a SJW "utopic" regime. PZ is a "useful idiot" who would be nominally kept in the high places but wouldn't get any real power, Ophelia would a member of the old revolutionary guard who would probably one of the first before the wall once the revolution ends, TiBo is a perfect example of the "model ally" (a.k.a. cannon fodder), Carrier is a profiteer, Avi is a nutcase who they'd get rid of pretty soon, Brayton would probably be assigned a thankless job as a common citizen, Physio would write some propaganda as a lower scribe.

Zvan is really the only one who could amount to something. She's not creative and charismatic enough to be an ideologue, but middle-management fits her perfectly.

So more like an Eichmann, or more like a Heydrich?

Too high up.

You forget I had her rank pegged a while back.

[Scented Nectar]

When legalisation and regulation occur, the winners can include the sex workers, the health care system from reduced std/hiv infection and violence, and the government (often at local/municipal level) coffers - from licensing and compliance income as well as decreased expenditure on policing, prohibition, prosecution and incarceration.

I prefer decriminalisation as a model, not legalisation. i.e. Look to New Zealand or New South Wales for best practice on prostitution, not Holland, Nevada or Victoria (Aus).

What is the problem with how Nevada's legalization is run (for the counties where it is legal)? I thought that was a success story.

It's shitty. There is a monopoly of companies that run legal brothels. Those companies have really shitty rules for the workers. Also, all workers must successfully compete and get hired by these companies. No simply starting up your own business and giving it a go. No determining one's own fees. For a person wanting to run their own home business (like masseuses and consultants are allowed to do), Nevada fucks them over. It's not allowed.

Lots more here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada

[feathers]

You forget I had her rank pegged a while back.

"Ich bekenne mich, im SInne der Anklage, nicht schuldig".

[AndrewV69]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

Up to now I have resisted the temptation. Somehow, I think I will keep it that way ... ?

[Scented Nectar]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

Your shock about it made me finally look it up. Couldn't help it. From now on, I will take your advice more seriously. :shock:

[feathers]

Rule #34 (bis): if shit exists, there is porn of shit.

[Karmakin]

What is the problem with how Nevada's legalization is run (for the counties where it is legal)? I thought that was a success story.

It's shitty. There is a monopoly of companies that run legal brothels. Those companies have really shitty rules for the workers. Also, all workers must successfully compete and get hired by these companies. No simply starting up your own business and giving it a go. No determining one's own fees. For a person wanting to run their own home business (like masseuses and consultants are allowed to do), Nevada fucks them over. It's not allowed.

Lots more here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada[/quote]

At least for me, the ideal is brothels run as a co-op type organization. Whatever legal structure best results in that is what I favor.

[Old_ones]

You forget I had her rank pegged a while back.

I don't know what the name of her blog means, but I've always assumed it was a reference to the carbon content of living things. That cracks me up, because with her ~75% water and generous portions of nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur and phosphorous (to say nothing of the many transition metals of somewhat less abundance) she's nowhere close to even the most flawed of diamonds. "Almost Dogshit" would be much more chemically accurate, and also a much more honest reflection of the quality of her thinking and writing.

[windy]

"Sexy Sex Sex!! (for Cash on the Barrel!)" - https://archive.is/ChFYb from 4/2012

According to this piece, Carrier was one of several FTB bloggers who posted pieces disagreeing with Nasreen's early FTB post "Sex Slavery must be abolished" in which she equated all kinds of sex work with sex slavery. From that came (in some order) Christina's post "Prostitution Is Not Slavery" and Nasreen's follow up with "Do Women Really ‘Choose’ to Be Prostitutes" plus posts by Reed & Crommunist.

I have to say that Carrier's article isn't that bad. While jet_lagg's argument is much better, Carrier at least argues for bodily autonomy, freedom of choice, etc. Also,incidentally,when talking about pornography, he utterly demolishes basically all of Sarkeesian/McIntosh' arguments on the social influence of violence and sexism in video games:

Fantasy has to be recognized and understood for what it is. Heroes in films get to do things we fantasize about but never do. Like shoot drug lords in the head. Or have lots of beautiful sexual partners. Or sleep with your husband’s secretary. Or get spanked until we cry. Or ejaculate on someone’s face. (As my sonar supervisor’s gun-toting wife once cheerfully said to me in my Coast Guard days, “That dear brave girl takes it in the eye, so I don’t have to!”)

(Although the "we'll never do" part isn't exactly true for "ejaculating on someone's face", at least not for Dickie...)

Nor for having lots of sexual partners. Unless Dickie's many, many girlfriends have all been total dogs, he's now claiming to have carried out 2/5 of his 2012 list of "things we fantasize about but never do". Coincidence? Any drug lords mystically missing in Carrier's neighborhood? :think:

(just kidding - my bet is on the spanking fetish as the next "revelation")

[feathers]

This one perhaps?

[youtube]_p6RlkpJflQ[/youtube]

[Brive1987]

I really don't want to boast but I did promise them exposure.

http://i.imgur.com/89gapWY.jpg

[feathers]

If Zvan has carbon stored somewhere, it's in here:
http://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/molec ... _2.img.jpg

[jet_lagg]

Going to have to pull a regretta. Jett_lagg, as it's to early in the morning, and i'll have to read-read carrier's tripe to refresh myself on the actual bullshit he was spouting. \but i'll do a steers in the next day or so.

On an attached note, i want to coin a new pigeon hole. Anti-identatarian, an identatarian being someone who views a human being not as an individual but as a collage of pigeon holes. Saves me having to explain why I am in fact anti-feminist

Oh we almost certainly will agree in our disagreement with Carrier. I just wanted to clarify I agree with his general position. I don't think there's any general position I do disagree with Carrier on, as a matter of fact. But as I learn the details of his position on any subject the chances I'll not only disagree but come to see his views as monstrous approaches 1.

We have a number of attempts to psychoanalyize him in the wake of this meltdown (I'm partial to the autism idea myself), but really the man is just a tribalistic uncharitable cunt (his passive aggressive sniping at Benson's blog is positively dripping with manners compared to how he'd treat a stranger online, let alone a pitter), simple as that. It's fun to speculate about why he might be such a cunt, but Internet diagnoses are almost always on shaky epistemic ground.

[Couch]

Pro tip: If you don't know what that is, keep it that way.

I looked. Bloody hell.

I find with most weird-sex slang, like Gorilla Kiss, or Dirty Sanchez - by the time You heard the slang you've already conceived that the act/activity probably exists.

But not the Alaskan Pipeline. No siree. :shock:

[Scented Nectar]

What is the problem with how Nevada's legalization is run (for the counties where it is legal)? I thought that was a success story.

It's shitty. There is a monopoly of companies that run legal brothels. Those companies have really shitty rules for the workers. Also, all workers must successfully compete and get hired by these companies. No simply starting up your own business and giving it a go. No determining one's own fees. For a person wanting to run their own home business (like masseuses and consultants are allowed to do), Nevada fucks them over. It's not allowed.

Lots more here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada

At least for me, the ideal is brothels run as a co-op type organization. Whatever legal structure best results in that is what I favor.[/quote]
I think that just as in every other business, it should be up to the individual business owner(s) to decide on their structure, with every opportunity open to all. Co-ops style brothels, company style brothels, owner/operator one-person businesses (both in-call and out-call style). Both in-call brothels and out-call services should be allowed. Part time, full time, spare time, make your own hours should be allowed. I don't like that Nevada restricts it to only one business structure type. Plus that one structure has lots of extra regulations that no other type of business has.

[Scented Nectar]

Quote fail, trying again...

It's shitty. There is a monopoly of companies that run legal brothels. Those companies have really shitty rules for the workers. Also, all workers must successfully compete and get hired by these companies. No simply starting up your own business and giving it a go. No determining one's own fees. For a person wanting to run their own home business (like masseuses and consultants are allowed to do), Nevada fucks them over. It's not allowed.

Lots more here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada

At least for me, the ideal is brothels run as a co-op type organization. Whatever legal structure best results in that is what I favor.

I think that just as in every other business, it should be up to the individual business owner(s) to decide on their structure, with every opportunity open to all. Co-ops style brothels, company style brothels, owner/operator one-person businesses (both in-call and out-call style). Both in-call brothels and out-call services should be allowed. Part time, full time, spare time, make your own hours should be allowed. I don't like that Nevada restricts it to only one business structure type. Plus that one structure has lots of extra regulations that no other type of business has.

[Karmakin]

Going to have to pull a regretta. Jett_lagg, as it's to early in the morning, and i'll have to read-read carrier's tripe to refresh myself on the actual bullshit he was spouting. \but i'll do a steers in the next day or so.

On an attached note, i want to coin a new pigeon hole. Anti-identatarian, an identatarian being someone who views a human being not as an individual but as a collage of pigeon holes. Saves me having to explain why I am in fact anti-feminist

Oh we almost certainly will agree in our disagreement with Carrier. I just wanted to clarify I agree with his general position. I don't think there's any general position I do disagree with Carrier on, as a matter of fact. But as I learn the details of his position on any subject the chances I'll not only disagree but come to see his views as monstrous approaches 1.

We have a number of attempts to psychoanalyize him in the wake of this meltdown (I'm partial to the autism idea myself), but really the man is just a tribalistic uncharitable cunt (his passive aggressive sniping at Benson's blog is positively dripping with manners compared to how he'd treat a stranger online, let alone a pitter), simple as that. It's fun to speculate about why he might be such a cunt, but Internet diagnoses are almost always on shaky epistemic ground.

Well, I tend to go political on these things. Carrier, at least to me, seems little different than the masses of say ultra-conservative politicians who have some pretty funny skeletons in the closet. One of the theories is that they're ultra-conservative not in spite of those skeletons, but because of them. It's about flying the flag as high as you can, in order to make people not look underneath the flag. And honestly, it usually works. It's called the "Big Lie", more or less.

It's why you see so much casual sexism/racism in that sort of hipster crowd, and why they're so big on the SocJus stuff. The higher you fly the flag the less people will suspect you. And yes, this means that this really is this horribly toxic feedback loop that's just getting louder and louder.

[Billy The Hillbilly]

Billy typed "semen fetishist" inta Google Images and nearly every pic is fromma Slymepit. Ladies & gents, I think yer been punk'd.

[Sulman]

You have to pay for sex-workers?

So that was what Carrier meant about making a deposit up front!

It's better to give than to receive.

[Tigzy]

LOL!

[Really?]

"Sexy Sex Sex!! (for Cash on the Barrel!)" - https://archive.is/ChFYb from 4/2012

According to this piece, Carrier was one of several FTB bloggers who posted pieces disagreeing with Nasreen's early FTB post "Sex Slavery must be abolished" in which she equated all kinds of sex work with sex slavery. From that came (in some order) Christina's post "Prostitution Is Not Slavery" and Nasreen's follow up with "Do Women Really ‘Choose’ to Be Prostitutes" plus posts by Reed & Crommunist.

I have to say that Carrier's article isn't that bad. While jet_lagg's argument is much better, Carrier at least argues for bodily autonomy, freedom of choice, etc. Also,incidentally,when talking about pornography, he utterly demolishes basically all of Sarkeesian/McIntosh' arguments on the social influence of violence and sexism in video games:

Fantasy has to be recognized and understood for what it is. Heroes in films get to do things we fantasize about but never do. Like shoot drug lords in the head. Or have lots of beautiful sexual partners. Or sleep with your husband’s secretary. Or get spanked until we cry. Or ejaculate on someone’s face. (As my sonar supervisor’s gun-toting wife once cheerfully said to me in my Coast Guard days, “That dear brave girl takes it in the eye, so I don’t have to!”)

(Although the "we'll never do" part isn't exactly true for "ejaculating on someone's face", at least not for Dickie...)

Nor for having lots of sexual partners. Unless Dickie's many, many girlfriends have all been total dogs, he's now claiming to have carried out 2/5 of his 2012 list of "things we fantasize about but never do". Coincidence? Any drug lords mystically missing in Carrier's neighborhood? :think:

(just kidding - my bet is on the spanking fetish as the next "revelation")

From that Sexy sex article:

In porn now there is in fact a rising trend (although I suspect it’s a passing fad) toward “throat gagging” (in the 90s it was anal sex; and from what I saw, in the 30s it was banging nuns and seeing semen spill out of things). I don’t enjoy this, even to watch it. It’s not my thing. But one particularly avid performer of it is Sasha Grey, one of the most successful and empowered women in the industry, an outspoken feminist and sex worker advocate. I’ve seen and read interviews with her and it’s clear she enjoys the act of throat gagging and doesn’t do it because she’s forced to or just because she’s paid to, that it turns her on, and that in fact she regards it as an expression of her liberty and power.

That was written in 2012, when he was cheating on his wife and banging on about Atheism Plus.

Was he lying about his disinterest in that kind of porn? Or do you think he hadn't yet...cultivated an interest?

Sasha Grey is pretty hot...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZQw9WfByAf4/U ... FOTO+2.JPG

[Really?]

LOL!

Celebrate good times...come on.

http://orig15.deviantart.net/2964/f/200 ... canone.jpg

[Tigzy]

Zvanatee has a whole post up about that troll who posted, er, one message on her Convergence post. Be both amused and appalled at the final part of the piece, where she links to Cunning Punt's sociopathic overview of her character and proceeds to take it as a compliment.

Also, check out Oolon in the comments:

I wonder if any of these anti-“SJW” types will ever manage a realistic fake.

Well one of them was realistic enough to end up as a BlockBot admin, Ools. Remember that? :lol:

http://www.freezepage.com/1436279716SRCTHTNDUW

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Further to SZvan's fee fy fo fum rant about a sister getting ghe sack at Convergence.

http://i.imgur.com/W3Uuqib.jpg

Maybe she got fired for tweeting on the job.

[Really?]

Hi, Zvanatee! When you were young and thought your life would amount to something, did you ever imagine you'd end up friends with a dribbling lapdog like Oolon?

Have fun being a liar!

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Zvan is the kind of person who would be pretty comfortable as a middle-management cog in an authoritarian machine.

So more like an Eichmann, or more like a Heydrich?

Too high up.

Eichmann & Heydrich were both highly intelligent.

Zvan is the prison camp commandant from SEVEN BEAUTIES. I thought we'd sorted this out long ago.

[Tigzy]

I brief interlude, to illustrate the recent dealings of two notable atheist activists.

Michael Nugent:

http://i.imgur.com/DFKDS0q.png

Peez:

http://i.imgur.com/WNCw3Uo.png

[Gefan]

I really don't want to boast but I did promise them exposure.

http://i.imgur.com/89gapWY.jpg

The boobs on the one in the middle are an amazing feat of engineering. Most cartoon characters are more realistic.

[John D]

Here is an interesting Dunning Krugger type of experiment.

Conclusion: Most people are stupid and women are more stupid than men... haha. This is at least true when it comes to understanding mechanisms.

The young people in the study were asked if they knew much about bicycles. Of course, most people said yes. Then they were asked to draw a bike... just the basics. They failed miserably, especially the women.

An unanticipated finding in the present studies was
a striking difference in performance between men and
women (see Table 3). For the nonexperts in Experiments
1 and 2, men made only about one third the errors that
women made

I sort of marvel at this. I find that I have a three dimensional model of a bike in my head. It is amazingly rich in detail. I really think that, given enough time, and full access to a hardware store, I could build a reasonably decent bike from scratch. No wonder engineering pays so well... it's because most of you are fucking idiots.

Now, I do think people have unique ways of thinking. I have always been a horrible speller. Just horrible. So bad, that it used to make me look completely idiotic. My sister-in-law however, spells everything perfectly... and without even trying. WTF? Amazing. But.... I am sure she can't tell a caliper from a camshaft.

Good stuff.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.3758%2FBF03195929

[comhcinc]

I really don't want to boast but I did promise them exposure.

http://i.imgur.com/89gapWY.jpg

The boobs on the one in the middle are an amazing feat of engineering. Most cartoon characters are more realistic.

He likes his boobz like his likes his basketballs. Made out of tanned leather, regulation sized 29.5 inches (74.93 cm) in circumference and weighing 22 oz .

[Dave]

I really don't want to boast but I did promise them exposure.

http://i.imgur.com/89gapWY.jpg

The boobs on the one in the middle are an amazing feat of engineering. Most cartoon characters are more realistic.

He likes his boobz like his likes his basketballs. Made out of tanned leather, regulation sized 29.5 inches (74.93 cm) in circumference and weighing 22 oz .

I guess that makes me the Tom Brady of boobs -- I prefer them slightly underinflated.

(And before everyone posts the granny porn, I did say slightly.)

[comhcinc]

I guess that makes me the Tom Brady of boobs -- I prefer them slightly underinflated.

(And before everyone posts the granny porn, I did say slightly.)

You sure?

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[Guestus Aurelius]

So on the new Bill Cosby "revelations," I have a few thoughts:

1) First of all, it was already clear that he's probably guilty. Just one or two vague allegations don't sway me, especially when it comes to a public figure. Four or five allegations with similar stories, and conspiracy is looking like a serious stretch. I'll still be hesitant to write him off as a rapist without real evidence, but I'm certainly not turning a blind eye. More than two dozen allegations? Come now...

2) Even when the number of allegations reached the point of no return, I didn't regret withholding judgment early on. Withholding judgment when all you have is vague hearsay is the right thing to do, regardless of what revelations arise down the line. Nobody was "wrong" to withhold judgment at first. Nonetheless, the SJWs will continue to cite the Cosby case for their guilty-until-proven-innocent "always believe the victim" campaign.

3) Okay. Now, all that aside, if you read the "breaking news" in the MSM as it was first reported yesterday, you'd have learned that the released document shows Cosby admitting to "drugging" or "dosing" women before having sex with them. I'm trying to find links now for examples, but I'm having trouble because many stories were updated after their initial release (e.g., this story now gets it right, but when I first read it yesterday, it used words like "drugging" and "dosing" rather than "giving." This opinion piece is a good example of what I'm talking about—see the title in the URL and read the first paragraph.)

But if you actually read the released document itself, you'll find that all of this is entirely misleading. Here are the relevant questions and answers from the transcript:

Q. You gave them [Quaaludes] to other people?

A. Yes.

...

Q. When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you ever give any of those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge?

[Lawyer objects, Cosby never answers the question]

There is no grand revelation or incriminating admission here. Hell, two witnesses even testified that they voluntarily accepted Quaaludes from Cosby. People use all sorts of drugs as aphrodisiacs. This "admission" is as incriminating as admitting to buying someone drinks or rolling them a joint with the intention of lowering their inhibitions. Skeevy perhaps, but hardly nefarious, provided it's done voluntarily. Men and women do this all the time. Yet, the media initially broke this story using verbs like "drug" and "dope," which give the reader the distinct impression that Cosby admitted to giving "those young women the Quaaludes without their knowledge"—the very question that went unanswered, and the very question that distinguishes consent from rape!

tl;dr: Cosby's probably guilty (as we already knew), nobody should feel bad about withholding judgment at first, and the MSM is horrible.

[comhcinc]

So is everyone thinking about what Guestus wrote or wanking it to the picture I posted? :think:

[CuntajusRationality]

The SJW position on sex work relies on the flawed philosophy of dualism, wherein the person and their body are separate. The body and "person" are not separate, the person is an emergent property of the physical body, that is why the notion that you are "renting the sex workers body not them" is utterly nonsense. When exchanging cash for sex, you are purchasing that person for a period of time. This is fundamentally different from hiring other services from a person, such as a chef, food server, barman, cheeseburger flipper. The service provision is in fact separate from the person in those instances, the product, a cheeseburger is not an integral part of the human body in any anatomical study.

Just playing devil's advocate here...

What about hiring someone as a personal trainer? Or massage therapist? Or personal yoga instructor? Or hiring a model to sit for a portrait? What about professional athletes? In those examples, and many others, provision of the service cannot be separated from the person, and they are not (necessarily) delivering a tangible product that is somehow separate and distinct from the human body.

My point is that I'm not sure that [is the service provision separate from the person; is the product separate and distinct from the human body] is a useful criterion to use here. But maybe I'm just not understanding your point.