Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

[jimthepleb]

Have we won?
I mean the Slymepit.
A+ died in the womb.
Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.
Mainstream media are beginning to see the issue as we have described it from 2012, first with the rightwing press, but now with significant leftwing voices (Ronson and Kipniss etc.)
GamerGate has had a quiet but effective symbiosis with our intent and had a voice we lacked.
The more lunatic aspects of our philosophies: Steersman, RooshV, Aurini Molyneux et al have had short shrift from the general membership of our 'movements.'
I feel like I've said it before but....Is our work almost done?
And yes...academia is a whole new front, but with Tim Hunt we are beginning to see a significant swing back against the woman who started the whole smear campaign.

[jimthepleb]

Because I love this band and this tune, and it could possibly upset bhoytony. Mind you anything could possibly upset the bhot so the bar is low already.
[youtube]l0FnmleG9v4[/youtube]

[jimthepleb]

bhoy. steers is the bhot.

[KiwiInOz]

quote="Ericb"He gets even more excited when he pictures them as little Richard Carrier faces with tails./quote

Forgive my impertinence sir but fuck you for putting that image in my head and fuck you again for the inevitable shoop your careless words (and mine) have no doubt inspired, and which I will undoubtedly have the misfortune of seeing with my real eyes.

I was just wondering where Ape+Lust is. This is tailor-made for him to exercise his considerable talent.

I am no Ape+Lust, but here is my offering:

http://i.imgur.com/JvOX4l3.png

[youtube]Ndq5Ed-zMsI[/youtube]

[KiwiInOz]

Too [meta]?

[KiwiInOz]

bhoy. steers is the bhot.

I see Steers as a feature, you see him as a bhug.

[James Caruthers]

...the humanities are a joke.

Even though I got my degree from that end I tend to agree. It's bad enough with the apparent swing to adjuncts over permanent staff and an increasing focus on the commercialisation potential of research, however, the humanities are doing themselves no favours by so often being a bastion of ideological nonsense. As far as I can tell a not inconsiderable amount of the SJW rot has come out of and rests upon imaginary disciplines and corrupted disciplines in the humanities. It seems to be a place where, if one deploys enough highfalutin language, one can peddle any old shite one cares to and where many are incapable or reluctant in pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

Index: Pitter said something, bad, SP, etc.

It's much like the internet in that way.

[free thoughtpolice]

I wonder how long it takes for terrorists to figure out how to cause trouble with these?
[youtube]MZs9DF0m6Xo[/youtube]

[Karmakin]

Have we won?
I mean the Slymepit.
A+ died in the womb.
Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.
Mainstream media are beginning to see the issue as we have described it from 2012, first with the rightwing press, but now with significant leftwing voices (Ronson and Kipniss etc.)
GamerGate has had a quiet but effective symbiosis with our intent and had a voice we lacked.
The more lunatic aspects of our philosophies: Steersman, RooshV, Aurini Molyneux et al have had short shrift from the general membership of our 'movements.'
I feel like I've said it before but....Is our work almost done?
And yes...academia is a whole new front, but with Tim Hunt we are beginning to see a significant swing back against the woman who started the whole smear campaign.

I'm pretty happy with the tree that's growing from the little seed.

[jet_lagg]

Have we won?
I mean the Slymepit.
A+ died in the womb.
Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.
Mainstream media are beginning to see the issue as we have described it from 2012, first with the rightwing press, but now with significant leftwing voices (Ronson and Kipniss etc.)
GamerGate has had a quiet but effective symbiosis with our intent and had a voice we lacked.
The more lunatic aspects of our philosophies: Steersman, RooshV, Aurini Molyneux et al have had short shrift from the general membership of our 'movements.'
I feel like I've said it before but....Is our work almost done?
And yes...academia is a whole new front, but with Tim Hunt we are beginning to see a significant swing back against the woman who started the whole smear campaign.

It's far too soon to declare victory, but things might be starting to go our way. I, for one, want GamerGate and the pit to live long enough to see themselves become the villain.

That has to be the way these things work, right? A small group sees the seed that will bring our destruction and starts to scream about it. Everybody looks at the seed and says this small group is crazy (because there are dozens of other small groups screaming about other things, that may or may not be seeds). Except this group is on to something. The seed starts to grow. It becomes a sapling, and the small group gets bigger. But still, the majority looks at this sapling and says it's a aberration, a one off, it won't get any bigger. Then years go by and it's becoming a proper tree. A crowd gathers and asks, "How the fuck did this tree get here? This is a serious problem." The old-timers crow that they were right all along. Eventually the crowd is big enough to cut down the tree. Pieces fall in the violence and germinate the soil. Satisfied, all but a few stragglers depart. The stragglers point to these new growths, and continue to scream, having resumed their place among the masses of fringe groups, who may or may not actually be on to something.

[comhcinc]

Ah so that's what has been alluding the pit all this time. These people are actually comedians got it. It all makes sense now.

In her case with a lot of her tweets. Yeah I think so. Think about if someone you liked made that same comment. It's mocking SJW ideology. Is it self mocking in her case? Maybe and if it is then it's funnier to me.

I just mean fuck cut a person a break.

The more I look at it, the more I agree with you. It is actually a clever piss-take of the SJW mantra about relative privilege and that any action is ok when you are punching up.

Look I could be wrong and if I am wrong I hope I am adult enough to admit or at the very least shut my fucking pie hole about it but I don't think I am in this case.

But even if I am I think we are riding her cock pretty damn hard lately and frankly I think we are better than the "ha look at the stupid drunken cunt" bullshit. I mean we have a dude on here that pulled on the bbc for fucksake. The game, has been upped.

And btw, plenty of us are drunken cunts and fuck all if my life isn't a total mess right now and I know so other of us are not doing that great either. Personly I am never a fan of personaly attacks but in the last couple of weeks I am even more aware of my dislike of it.

I mean while honestly it wouldn't bother me all that much but it wouldn't be hard for one of these asshats to make some blog post mocking me. Between the pit and my twitter there are plenty of ammo including pictures. Not only of my but also of my wife and kids. Plenty of us would be right pissed of if that happen, because I am apart of the group, but I can genuinely see how some people would see it as fair grounds.

And before anyone says it I am not tone policing. I am not saying because I don't like something you have to stop. I am saying in my opinion you really are being a hypocrite.

And you know who the fuck you are.

Or maybe you don't.

You are probably steersman.

Because jigaboo or something.

[Tribble]

Wasn't Ol' Neccers a Mensarian?

No. He was a Fullofshitian.

[jet_lagg]

Fuck. Karmakin ninja'd my seed analogy. Though we took it in opposite directions :p

[Tribble]

Where is Steersman? He's usually dropping a few piles of shit into the conversation by now...

[comhcinc]

Where is Steersman? He's usually dropping a few piles of shit into the conversation by now...

I asked him to divide by zero.

[Tribble]

Any gear-heads know what the make and model of the bus in this video. (You can turn the sound off in you want since it's Euro-Dance.)

[youtube]6Zbi0XmGtMw[/youtube]

I really like it but haven't been able to find out what it was and I want to get one and restore it (if necessary).

[Ape+lust]

Any gear-heads know what the make and model of the bus in this video. (You can turn the sound off in you want since it's Euro-Dance.)

[youtube]6Zbi0XmGtMw[/youtube]

I really like it but haven't been able to find out what it was and I want to get one and restore it (if necessary).

http://www.arca-bus.org/material/fitxes ... roletE.htm

[Karmakin]

Have we won?
I mean the Slymepit.
A+ died in the womb.
Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.
Mainstream media are beginning to see the issue as we have described it from 2012, first with the rightwing press, but now with significant leftwing voices (Ronson and Kipniss etc.)
GamerGate has had a quiet but effective symbiosis with our intent and had a voice we lacked.
The more lunatic aspects of our philosophies: Steersman, RooshV, Aurini Molyneux et al have had short shrift from the general membership of our 'movements.'
I feel like I've said it before but....Is our work almost done?
And yes...academia is a whole new front, but with Tim Hunt we are beginning to see a significant swing back against the woman who started the whole smear campaign.

It's far too soon to declare victory, but things might be starting to go our way. I, for one, want GamerGate and the pit to live long enough to see themselves become the villain.

That has to be the way these things work, right? A small group sees the seed that will bring our destruction and starts to scream about it. Everybody looks at the seed and says this small group is crazy (because there are dozens of other small groups screaming about other things, that may or may not be seeds). Except this group is on to something. The seed starts to grow. It becomes a sapling, and the small group gets bigger. But still, the majority looks at this sapling and says it's a aberration, a one off, it won't get any bigger. Then years go by and it's becoming a proper tree. A crowd gathers and asks, "How the fuck did this tree get here? This is a serious problem." The old-timers crow that they were right all along. Eventually the crowd is big enough to cut down the tree. Pieces fall in the violence and germinate the soil. Satisfied, all but a few stragglers depart. The stragglers point to these new growths, and continue to scream, having resumed their place among the masses of fringe groups, who may or may not actually be on to something.

That assumes that hierarchy will evolve into an environment that's anti-hierarchy.

I'm not saying you're wrong. But I don't think it's automatic either.

[d4m10n]

Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.

And yet somehow they keep getting paid to fly to Beigeland.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/7943

http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2015/ ... n-manteca/

[Ape+lust]

I am no Ape+Lust, but here is my offering:

http://i.imgur.com/JvOX4l3.png

Haha, that's great!! :lol: :lol:

You should throw it into the image archives where the baboons are sure to see it :D

[Tribble]

Any gear-heads know what the make and model of the bus in this video. (You can turn the sound off in you want since it's Euro-Dance.)

[youtube]6Zbi0XmGtMw[/youtube]

I really like it but haven't been able to find out what it was and I want to get one and restore it (if necessary).

http://www.arca-bus.org/material/fitxes ... roletE.htm

Thanks I was thinking it might have been from the '40s, I didn't realize it went back to the '30s. I'm sure won't be able to afford one. But I'll keep dreaming.

[Aneris]

Ophelia Benson illustrated her original “paralell logic” concept once more: she had to close comments because of “an explosion of inquisitorial dogmatic stupid”. However, in all previous instances she denied staunchly, and with characteristic cocksure certitude of a social justice warrior that “thoughtpolice”, “witch-hunting” and “inquisitors” would not exist in the current zeitgeist. A figment of the imagination! She was especially firm when she caught Richard Dawkins using these metaphors, denying outright that he might be onto something. All others on FreethoughtBlogs — of course — thought the same (I know because I have a half finished article on this, and have looked into the “witch-hunt meme” before, which they don't grasp at all).

It would seem a small matter, a word. But in all the previous instances she dedicated scathing ridicule when Richard Dawkins used such a word. Here is a recent quote of ridiculing such metaphors. Dawkins had called the Tim Hunt trearment a “baying witch-hunt”

“Others described the response on social media as a “global firestorm”. Nice. Mocking Nobelists is as serious and devastatig as setting human beings on fire. They are very delicate and thin skined, don’t you know, so that #DistractinglySexy hashtag was exactly the same as dousing Tim Hunt with napalm” – Ophelia Benson

Have people put screws on her thumbs this time, tortured her with hot iron? And of course, a characteristic strawman is there too, as if the humorous hashtag was meant and not that Tim Hunt's life's work got blotched by a quote-mined remark, a blotch that took about 40% of his wikipedia article, for example, and branded him as a irredeemable sexist (I looked at Ms Benson's to look for Tim Hunt corrections and retractions, there are none).

As I have written a while ago, she and others might slowly change their tune but never create a much necessary break point (aka “I was wrong”) and keep pretending as always that they always thought this and that. I have already seen revisions of elevatorgate were — really — nothing happened but misogynists out of a sudden attacked poor Ms Watson. Hence, be sure to chain them to their words and actions and hold them accountable, as they will continue to be hypocrites and could do so also while being right about something. In that case the opposition Boogeyman they've created would have to be displaced, too, since why was there a dispute then? (aka “women are people” gambit). In other words, if they come around and assume views they previously fought, but keep the constellation, then YOU have to be pushed into yet another side, because there is obviously conflict. This happened a few times in the past, with a tactic that can be rightfully compared to “gaslighting”. For example when PZ Myers straight denied Rebecca Watson's call for boycott and then made up that people react hostile to her because they were misogynists. This strategy was used many times and I am quite sure they know about it. Another example was Stefanie Zvan who denied (ludicicrously) the comment section nastiness and only conceded what she absolutely had to, that they were vile at some distant point in the past, but no more. Remember recently, when PZ Myers had to request another time to dial down the hatered and vileness — which actually flew in Zvan's most confident face, but nobody sees it. There is of course no accountability. In all cases, they can just claim whatever they want and what is opportune at a time and it hardly bites them later.

What's more, it gets even worse because of Ms Benson's (et al) ultra cocksure attitude in the previous instances. If you write with most confidence, and “profit” from going all in, then you pay when you change your mind. Their social freeloading ought to have consequence, otherwise everyone could always be ultra cocksure as social justice warriors are, change their mind entirely without indication and again pretend to be total sure about this other view, and each time take advantage since certitude normally is earned in some way. And of course the costs of actually “delegitimizing” (in their words) what other go through with them. Because other people very well had thar arguement with them, perhaps got banned over it, and then later these people pretend they were always right, but now with opinions they previously deemed bannable? No way. Costs come in many other ways, for example I and many others cannot participate normally thanks to them, and there are the high costs of smearing to those affected already. Interesting that what they see in the world is what they actively use against others, and perhaps another example of projection.

https://archive.is/59oz9

[free thoughtpolice]

Name this car gearheads:

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[katamari Damassi]

I need career advice people. I've got a job interview tomorrow for a competing clinic. Right now I work for a very nice doctor but he's a horrible business man. Sometimes when I get my paycheck he tells me not to deposit it right away. He failed to pay our medical insurance with 2 different companies, causing each one to cancel us, and only got us medical insurance when I walked off the job and told him I wasn't coming back until he provided it, and the new insurance SUCKS-$7.5K deductible. This clinic should be making money hand over fist but it barely breaks even because... he cheated the IRS and got caught so they have a lien on the place, 10 years ago he hired an incompetent biller at a RIDICULOUS(she makes more than I do)salary and he refuses to fire her, he has a driver whose job is to drive patients to the clinic, but he often refuses to, and bitches up a storm when he actually does have to drive a patient, my immediate supervisor(who makes $20K more than me)does next to nothing except her real estate business and managing her personal affairs during business hours. There's only 3 people who actually do any work there; myself, the nurse manager, and the secretary. So it's a nightmare right? Well, yes, but on the other hand I'm pretty much my own boss, and when we're slow-like now-I work a 5 hour day and still get paid for 8 hours. I have job security in that he can't/won't ever fire me.
The new place is a 30-40 minute commute(one way). Will likely be much more stable and professional, but will also likely require I work a full 8 hour day.

[comhcinc]

Work both jobs and retire earily?

Use the new offer as a bargaining chip to make more money at the current place?

Become a stripper.

[Aneris]

I need career advice people. I've got a job interview tomorrow for a competing clinic. Right now I work for a very nice doctor but he's a horrible business man. Sometimes when I get my paycheck he tells me not to deposit it right away. He failed to pay our medical insurance with 2 different companies, causing each one to cancel us, and only got us medical insurance when I walked off the job and told him I wasn't coming back until he provided it, and the new insurance SUCKS-$7.5K deductible. This clinic should be making money hand over fist but it barely breaks even because... he cheated the IRS and got caught so they have a lien on the place, 10 years ago he hired an incompetent biller at a RIDICULOUS(she makes more than I do)salary and he refuses to fire her, he has a driver whose job is to drive patients to the clinic, but he often refuses to, and bitches up a storm when he actually does have to drive a patient, my immediate supervisor(who makes $20K more than me)does next to nothing except her real estate business and managing her personal affairs during business hours. There's only 3 people who actually do any work there; myself, the nurse manager, and the secretary. So it's a nightmare right? Well, yes, but on the other hand I'm pretty much my own boss, and when we're slow-like now-I work a 5 hour day and still get paid for 8 hours. I have job security in that he can't/won't ever fire me.
The new place is a 30-40 minute commute(one way). Will likely be much more stable and professional, but will also likely require I work a full 8 hour day.

Prioritize what is recurring over what you gain once. The effect of “upgrading” lasts a few months, tops, and the new becomes the new normal. Since you mention the commute, is it more or less? Classic example: Bob buys home outside of town, feels great about it for three months, until it becomes new normal, but is annoyed day by day forever because now he has to commute so far. He was probably happier with the less ideal home closer to work.

Only you know if the risk you indicate (“stable”) is high, or whether you would have trouble jumping off when it becomes an actual problem. Also, will the employer warn you in advance or do you risk that you worked but suddenly no salary is incoming? How likely is this, and would it be manageble?

[Really?]

Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.

And yet somehow they keep getting paid to fly to Beigeland.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/7943

http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2015/ ... n-manteca/

I agree. We need to stop tolerating the passive aggressive fence-sitting by people who think there are two equal sides to any of the conflicts with the FTB assholes. That's one way in which they maintain power.

[Couch]

Com's got a boner for Mofo, leave him alone and let him fap.
Anyone play Hearthstone?

I do, occasionally. On the European servers.

Hell I'd fuck her. At least with my cock in her mouth she wouldn't be able to make any more stupid comments. Obviously I would need a heavy course of antibiotics before hand and an XXXXXXXXXXthick condom but hey it'd be worth it

That's a weirdly sexually aggressive response. Are you OK, or just a bit of a simple cunt..?

[katamari Damassi]

Prioritize what is recurring over what you gain once. The effect of “upgrading” lasts a few months, tops, and the new becomes the new normal. Since you mention the commute, is it more or less? Classic example: Bob buys home outside of town, feels great about it for three months, until it becomes new normal, but is annoyed day by day forever because now he has to commute so far. He was probably happier with the less ideal home closer to work.

Only you know if the risk you indicate (“stable”) is high, or whether you would have trouble jumping off when it becomes an actual problem. Also, will the employer warn you in advance or do you risk that you worked but suddenly no salary is incoming? How likely is this, and would it be manageble?

Commute is much more. I often bike to my present job. I can't imagine him going under suddenly-unless he has a heart attack or something. Even then, the other doctor(whom I love)would likely take over. In fact it has been my(and the nurse manager's)wish that he would take over the business since he came on board 7 months ago. BTW-he's a friend of the owner and came out of retirement to help him, he has not been paid yet and is probably owed a quarter of a million dollars at this point, which I'm sure the owner will never be able/willing to pay him. My biggest fear is retirement. I'm resigned to the fact that I'll have to work until I'm 70, because my social security sucks(plus the Republicans are always trying to destroy it and may one day succeed)so any job that offers decent retirement benefits goes straight to the top.

[acathode]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

[katamari Damassi]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Feminism has been a problem since the get go. Back in the early days they seemed like natural allies but more than once they disrupted gay pride rallies over things like drag, and how not enough attention was paid to their issues. It's nothing new.

[comhcinc]

Commute is much more. I often bike to my present job.

I can't help with much but I can at least solve this problem for you. '

http://i.imgur.com/P59riM6.jpg

I was keeping it secret for myself but if it helps you out then go for it.

[Guest]

i.imgur.com/tGC8IaR.gif

In 39 years it looks like that moped appreciated in value at an annual rate of 1.73% from $359 to $700.

Not too shabby for a chappy!

[KiwiInOz]

i.imgur.com/tGC8IaR.gif

In 39 years it looks like that moped appreciated in value at an annual rate of 1.73% from $359 to $700.

Not too shabby for a chappy!

And only one careful owner.

https://www.4-stroke.net/history/wp-con ... 50x268.jpg

[comhcinc]

i.imgur.com/tGC8IaR.gif

In 39 years it looks like that moped appreciated in value at an annual rate of 1.73% from $359 to $700.

Not too shabby for a chappy!

And only one careful owner.

https://www.4-stroke.net/history/wp-con ... 50x268.jpg

Those guys are awesome.

I have been looking for a scooter or a moped to tool around on for years. I like the idea of my comically fat ass on a comically small bike.

[BarnOwl]

Ftb have designated a tiny portion of the atheism/scepticism community to themselves and excluded all others.

And yet somehow they keep getting paid to fly to Beigeland.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/7943

http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2015/ ... n-manteca/

Puerto Rico sounds nice, but who the hell wants to go to Lard, CA?

[Service Dog]

Honda Grom... 125cc of baby motard, $2999...

[youtube]THJH1QPSNrw[/youtube]

[Service Dog]

I mean, I was raped by a former Miss Exotic World, celebrated from Cannes to Miami to Vegas to NY's museums of modern art. <--- that's the correct way to humblebrag.

If it was grim I'm sorry. But that's the kind of shit I'd have straight bragged about in my youth. 'Yeah I didn't even want to but y'know ...she made me.' I was precocious in my promiscuity. Discretion and enjoyment came much much later.

Precisely. It wasn't grim. Nor sexually-enjoyable... more like getting pranked in a scene from the JACKASS movies.
(Which I also considered worthy of laughing-along with, or even bragging about.)

Only later, after I realized I'd have spent decades in prison if I'd done the same thing to her (along with various-other eye-opening realizations) ...only then did I feel-like the rape-hysteria against men should be dialed-way down/ OR feminists like her should endure the same harsh punishments they advocate against male perpetrators.

[MacGruberKnows]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Have a tranny parade. Trust me, most of the straights like me will skip the gay parade with no trannies and vector to the tranny parade because that is why most of us straights go to gay parades in the first place.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

SJWs & Emos, two peas in a miserable, miserable pod?

[youtube]W7IxliAPjAk[/youtube]

[feathers]

It's fake. Your previous weirdest item can go back to the pole position.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/theda ... -about-lsd
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/mis ... entist.asp

I am miffed. You and Striped Zebra have ruined things. That story was so good it should have been true. :evil:

According to the Snopes link, the guy's real story is almost as weird. He was living homeless/in-hiding for decades, while being wanted for a 1976 murder. They caught him in 2012.

From http://bangordailynews.com/2014/06/30/n ... 76-murder/ :

In July 2012, a Seattle police detective posed as a market researcher and asked Raub to participate in a “chewing gum survey,” for which he would be paid $5. Raub agreed, according to the affidavit. The gum he chewed was sent to the Maine State Police Crime Lab, where investigators concluded that the DNA matched a blood drop found on the kitchen drawer of Kimball’s residence after her murder.

If that is a legal way of obtaining DNA, your law is in a dangerous slippery state.

[deLurch]

When someone says "I"d fuck her", about E.Mo Anders, what I choose to hear them saying-- is "I've never read Anders' Skepchick post, the one where she recounts five of her rape accusations."
http://skepchick.org/2013/08/when-i-did ... y-i-didnt/

Otherwise known as sobriety roulette, where five of the six chambers are loaded, as is Anders.

[feathers]

I read that stat slightly differently -> That 40% of straight men (32% of women) have engaged (at some point in their history) in anal sex with member(s) of the opposite sex, not that 40% of sexual encounters between straights involve anal.

40% of all straight men are actually trans gay.

The so-called trays :rimshot:

Index: trayshaming

[deLurch]

It's a slow day at work. It's a slow day here. C'mon FfTB, or Skepchicks, do something funny.

It is actually a moderately paced day for me. Plus I just found out something interest about my personal life. Any body wants to know I can share via pm, chat, what have you.

comhcinc PMed me. He says he was surprised to learn that getting Richard Carriers spunk sprayed in his face had no affect on him either.

[deLurch]

My question about Elyse is; since the highschool mean girls clique that is Skepchick froze her out, what is she, and why does anyone pay attention to her? She's no longer a part of the A/S right? So who is following her other than some pitters who are morbidly fascinated by her antics? And why are they following her?

People love to rubber neck at train wrecks.

I will agree that we would all be better off dropping her out of the conversation. And perhaps, some day she, in the absence of any outside attention might self reflect and find a way to get her life back in gear the same way she successfully found a way to lose all of that weight. We all have the capacity to change. But the will to do so has to come from within ourselves.

[deLurch]

I wonder how long it takes for terrorists to figure out how to cause trouble with these?
[youtube]MZs9DF0m6Xo[/youtube]

Flight time 15-20 minutes without a loaded gun that shoots like shit. 11 mph without the gun. Accuracy is for shit.

It could still do some damage & fear towards a crowd. Easy enough to assemble. Drone could be preplaced. Person would still have to see. I am not sure those drones could handle the camera also, so perhaps you are looking at line of sight operation. Person would either have to stand somewhere to see what was going on.

The novelty of the thing would cause the most fear. There are so many different ways to cause actual harm and significant damage and larger amounts of people with reduced odds of getting caught.

I am personally glad that these mass killers are insane. Otherwise the body counts would really rack up.

[SM12]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Aren't Gay Pride rallies usually 95% white? How can they be SJW then?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Aren't Gay Pride rallies usually 95% white? How can they be SJW then?

95% of SJWs are white, too...

[rayshul]

I need career advice people. I've got a job interview tomorrow for a competing clinic. Right now I work for a very nice doctor but he's a horrible business man. Sometimes when I get my paycheck he tells me not to deposit it right away. He failed to pay our medical insurance with 2 different companies, causing each one to cancel us, and only got us medical insurance when I walked off the job and told him I wasn't coming back until he provided it, and the new insurance SUCKS-$7.5K deductible. This clinic should be making money hand over fist but it barely breaks even because... he cheated the IRS and got caught so they have a lien on the place, 10 years ago he hired an incompetent biller at a RIDICULOUS(she makes more than I do)salary and he refuses to fire her, he has a driver whose job is to drive patients to the clinic, but he often refuses to, and bitches up a storm when he actually does have to drive a patient, my immediate supervisor(who makes $20K more than me)does next to nothing except her real estate business and managing her personal affairs during business hours. There's only 3 people who actually do any work there; myself, the nurse manager, and the secretary. So it's a nightmare right? Well, yes, but on the other hand I'm pretty much my own boss, and when we're slow-like now-I work a 5 hour day and still get paid for 8 hours. I have job security in that he can't/won't ever fire me.
The new place is a 30-40 minute commute(one way). Will likely be much more stable and professional, but will also likely require I work a full 8 hour day.

My advice is go to the interview, ask them the questions that will help you make a decision. Then get the $$ they are going to pay you, go back to your doctor and explain your situation and intention to leave with this option on the table. See what happens.

[SM12]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Aren't Gay Pride rallies usually 95% white? How can they be SJW then?

95% of SJWs are white, too...

But they constantly rail against racism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-28364271 Last year seemed to have zero black faces.

[rayshul]

TW: Breitbart, hyperbolic headline

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... -warriors/

Getting a bit disappointed in the lack of evidence and wealth of opinion in some of the latest articles from Breitbart. I mean I like that they're saying shit I'm thinking, but, y'know...

[Kirbmarc]

The whole Pride-ban on transvestites and drag just reminds me of a few years ago when a Swedish Pride decided to ban all non-socialist political parties from participating - targeted specifically at a few groups of liberals...

I'm just kinda wondering, was the LGBT-movements always full SJW, or were they co-opted much the same way the SJWs tried taking over atheism and gaming?

Aren't Gay Pride rallies usually 95% white? How can they be SJW then?

95% of SJWs are white, too...

Many of them are transracial, though, usually transNative (Elizabeth Warren, Ward Churchill, probably Caine).

[deLurch]

It's far too soon to declare victory, but things might be starting to go our way. I, for one, want GamerGate and the pit to live long enough to see themselves become the villain.

That has to be the way these things work, right? A small group sees the seed that will bring our destruction and starts to scream about it. Everybody looks at the seed and says this small group is crazy (because there are dozens of other small groups screaming about other things, that may or may not be seeds). Except this group is on to something. The seed starts to grow. It becomes a sapling, and the small group gets bigger. But still, the majority looks at this sapling and says it's a aberration, a one off, it won't get any bigger. Then years go by and it's becoming a proper tree. A crowd gathers and asks, "How the fuck did this tree get here? This is a serious problem." The old-timers crow that they were right all along. Eventually the crowd is big enough to cut down the tree. Pieces fall in the violence and germinate the soil. Satisfied, all but a few stragglers depart. The stragglers point to these new growths, and continue to scream, having resumed their place among the masses of fringe groups, who may or may not actually be on to something.

That was also a major concern for Anonymous and project Chanology. They went from being the villain, to being the hero, to being an even more wide spread hero for many causes.

It Anonymous started to be used for just about every pet cause. There were some fuck ups. Some wins. Some abuses. But overall good. Many off branches and derivatives. Eventually the whole thing was over used and frankly just fell out of fashion. You will still see people running around in V masks. But it is still mostly dead. Even the forums were people used to engage in Anonymous action turned into forums that watch & monitor Anonymous actions, which eventually are nearly dead in their own right. Anonymous is dead.

There are groups that have taken off by using Anonymous tactics. Hell some of the worst SJWers are former project Chanology members, who liked the edgy side and use some of the worst Anonymous tactics. It is the reuse of bad tactics that seems to be the worst fruit of all. But then again, Anonymous really didn't invent anything new. They just reused existing tactics. They happened to use it better and more successfully due to being able to attract sufficient critical mass that it attracted a small percentage of both truly talented people, and truly dedicated people with waayyy too much time on their hands.

So it isn't so much the slymepit or gamergate you need to fear, as it is the few nutcases that will take what they have learned and go off and do it somewhere else.

With that said, what success the slymepit and gamergate has had was built on the foundation of primarily good tactics, and trying to toe the line of sanity. The worst tactics I can see are 1) the mass contacting of advertisers... but that is already in use by many more, 2) Creating a journalist / news outlet tracking site (deepfreeze.it). But again, this tactic is nothing new.

I think over all we will be OK. Or at least no worse off that the current state of the world.

[deLurch]

I need career advice people. I've got a job interview tomorrow for a competing clinic. Right now I work for a very nice doctor but he's a horrible business man. Sometimes when I get my paycheck he tells me not to deposit it right away. He failed to pay our medical insurance with 2 different companies, causing each one to cancel us, and only got us medical insurance when I walked off the job and told him I wasn't coming back until he provided it, and the new insurance SUCKS-$7.5K deductible. This clinic should be making money hand over fist but it barely breaks even because... he cheated the IRS and got caught so they have a lien on the place, 10 years ago he hired an incompetent biller at a RIDICULOUS(she makes more than I do)salary and he refuses to fire her, he has a driver whose job is to drive patients to the clinic, but he often refuses to, and bitches up a storm when he actually does have to drive a patient, my immediate supervisor(who makes $20K more than me)does next to nothing except her real estate business and managing her personal affairs during business hours. There's only 3 people who actually do any work there; myself, the nurse manager, and the secretary. So it's a nightmare right? Well, yes, but on the other hand I'm pretty much my own boss, and when we're slow-like now-I work a 5 hour day and still get paid for 8 hours. I have job security in that he can't/won't ever fire me.
The new place is a 30-40 minute commute(one way). Will likely be much more stable and professional, but will also likely require I work a full 8 hour day.

What are your long term life goals? Time to start thinking about them. Will this job get you what you want? Or will you need to earn more? If you do make a change, shoot for at least a 15% pay raise.

You can either rest on your laurel and keep what you have now. Or be aggressive, and strive for more.

[deLurch]

My biggest fear is retirement. I'm resigned to the fact that I'll have to work until I'm 70, because my social security sucks(plus the Republicans are always trying to destroy it and may one day succeed)so any job that offers decent retirement benefits goes straight to the top.

Yes. Social Security sucks. On a nurse's salary, you should be maxing out your 401k or whatever retirement account you have. If you cannot do that now, then you need to get a higher paying salary so that you can do that. Relying on Social Security is the last thing you should be doing.

[Tony Parsehole]

Disagreeing with a transsexual?
DOX!!!!!

For those not in the know the tweet was referencing this exchange in which Zoey Tur, a MTF transsesxual threatened a person in a debate:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/v ... ebate.html

People like that are doing their cause no favours at all.

[Konrad_Cruze]

The Guardian - where else?

Would the rebellion against Harriet Harman have happened to a man?
by Lucy Webster

Blah blah blah

Shatterface

In reply to Lucy, yes. Harriet Harman is serving her second term as temp leader of labour. She is (as much as I dislike the woman) a proficient politician. Labour are currently in disarray with "Blairites" trying to pull them back to the centre with the argument "we will get nothing if we can't win elections" and the lefties trying to pull Labour back to their founding principles. What Labour should do is not up to me to decide as I am a floating voter and don't subscribe to any party. I will note however that in British politics, the party that wins is the party that is closest to the centre ground (unless you are the liberal democrats). The problem with the left is that it appeals to a minority of people, who have the lowest voting rate. You have two choices in politics

1) appeal to as many people as you can (In the UK that's the centre ground) and win elections thus allowing you to make the changes that you want (Tony Blair did this beautifully)
2) Stick to your principles and accept that you will never be in power unless you are part of a coalition.

For the main opposition I want a viable alternative to the Tories (this coming from someone wanting the Tories to win the last election). Democracy only works if there is a viable opposition and I don't think a left wing Labour party can provide that

[Guest]

Zoey Tur

has been harassed for days over this
isn't a tumblr/reddit/twitter/gawker addict. She's 55 and a journalist and probably doesn't know even know what "doxxing" means.
and for journalists, doxxing is considered part of their job. part of their job is outing assholes.

I'm not saying Tur was right to do this, I am saying Tur, like 99% of the world's population, doesn't even know it's a bad thing.

Most pitters/ftb'ers/redditors/tumblrs/twitterers that do no know what doxxing is, probably only heard of it in the past 2 - 3 years.

Wiki suggests that while the term has been around since the 90s, it only entered the mainstream in 2011 or so.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing

And what is and is not doxxing is still up for grabs on a daily basis and differing between group to group.

Nero said Shanley doxxed him when she gave out his private phone number.

Is giving out the private phone number of a very public journalist actually doxxing?
theralphretort.com/milo-yiannopoulos-doxed-by-shanley-01016015/

Is giving out the PO box of some jackass harassing you on twitter actually doxxing?

ymmv.

[Konrad_Cruze]

That's a weirdly sexually aggressive response. Are you OK, or just a bit of a simple cunt..?

Its been a while thats all

[rayshul]

You can buy vage mate, go out, there's professionals who can handle it.