Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

[JackSkeptic]

The Sarah Sharp plot thickens...

Some dingbat/white knight has proclaimed he will indeed fork the linux kernel, rationalising it's not about hypersensitive pussy at all, but about some obscure quibble about inclusion of a BSD component...

It is refreshing to see how most of the community no longer has any tolerance for this bullshit and now sees it for what it is on the spot. Well done SJWs. Wolf cries are increasingly failing, digging own grave is only talent you have left. Lots of shit here -

http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forkin ... hypocrisy/

I hope they all run off to their safe spaces and sink into the obscurity they deserve. The people left who actually do something will be quite relived to see the back of them.

[Guest_84d94f98]

I hope they all run off to their safe spaces and sink into the obscurity they deserve. The people left who actually do something will be quite relived to see the back of them.

Them creating their own safe spaces to crawl back into is the best possible scenario. And only the white knights are stupid enough to think that will get the SJWs what they want. No one of any significance or talent will follow. And the more savvy SJWs know this. This is why they try to co-opt existing movements. It takes a heck of a lot more effort to rebuild from scratch, so the SJWs will kind of win in the short term if they are successful in co-opting other people's work.

[Guest_84d94f98]

- Soylent f98

[Cnutella]

http://imgur.com/lpAyyzg.jpg

Awww yeah, Ape+

Love the spooge fluid dynamics especially, plus thoughtful choices of wardrobe along with body position... how long do you spend finding images for something like this?

[franc]

NEW! IMPROVED! version of UN report -

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Docu ... lights.pdf

'Nother sloppily assembled hackjob. No Lyndon la Rouche and no embarrassing citations.

[Skep tickle]

Can't remember if I shared this with people here - one of the SJWs who originally trashed the Women Against Feminism group has a redpill moment and is like fuck feminism.

http://www.thefrisky.com/2015-10-01/the ... ot-either/

:clap:

[Guest_84d94f98]

Can't remember if I shared this with people here - one of the SJWs who originally trashed the Women Against Feminism group has a redpill moment and is like fuck feminism.

thefrisky.com/2015-10-01/the-soapbox-if-meryl-streep-isnt-a-feminist-fine-im-not-either/

:clap:

Well, it certainly appears that someone has a case of the clap.

[Guest_84d94f98]

- Soylent f98

[Skep tickle]

NEW! IMPROVED! version of UN report -

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Docu ... lights.pdf

'Nother sloppily assembled hackjob. No Lyndon la Rouche and no embarrassing citations.

Jaw dropping, but is it "new"? (Says Sept at top)

[Skep tickle]

Ars Technica points to this as the notice that the UN report has been taken down: http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Docu ... rt2015.pdf

The entirety of the text in the report at the 2nd link is: "This report is currently in revision and will be re-posted as soon as all relevant inputs have been taken onboard."

From the Ars Technica piece above (links not carried through from original):

On Tuesday, major games lobbying arm the Electronic Software Association posted its own critical press release that, among other things, noted the citing of discredited studies such as "The Mark of the Beast: America’s Children Are in Mortal Danger." "ESA strongly supports empowering women and minorities and creating an inclusive digital environment that welcomes all perspectives," ESA CEO and President Michael D. Gallagher wrote. "However, the U.N. does this important issue a great disservice and undercuts its credibility by spreading ridiculous stereotypes and false opinions.”

Ultimately, ITU public information chief Sarah Parkes issued an apology to a Vice Motherboard reporter on Wednesday, the same day that the original paper was taken off the UN's site and replaced with a "currently in revision" notice. (As King noted in his takedown piece, the original report can be found archived here.)

"The big problem was footnoting, which was not up to standard and we very much regret that," Parkes said to Motherboard. Parkes then admitted that some of the report's issues were due to "the terrible scramble around the launch date. It was a hugely busy period for the UN. We apologize very much for the errors and I hope we'll be able to rectify them." She suggested that a revised report would be posted "within two weeks."

Is it true that "the big problem was footnoting", or was the big problem "all relevant inputs {not} hav{ing} been taken onboard", could the big problem have simply been "ridiculous stereotypes and false opinions"? Stay tuned.

[franc]

NEW! IMPROVED! version of UN report -

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Docu ... lights.pdf

'Nother sloppily assembled hackjob. No Lyndon la Rouche and no embarrassing citations.

Jaw dropping, but is it "new"? (Says Sept at top)

It's a stopgap. It was embarrassing, given the noise it generated, to have no document at all. Fuck' em.

http://i.imgur.com/HjCp0Bx.jpg

[Badger3k]

I invested a lot of money in Void Functions... but my return was nothing.

Stock Market = Caveat Emptor

I'm probably ninjered, catching up, but Elyse can tell you all about her void functions. :rimshot:

[Søren Lilholt]

The vast majority of games I play have no male or female bodies in them and of those that do only a few show sexy characters at all and usually in context and a small part of the game. Anyone who says 'games are sexist' as a general statement has either never played games or is deliberately misrepresenting gaming as a whole. They are falling into the feminist trap of cherry picking to try and prove the whole.

In addiction there is this gross assumption that women do not like sexy female characters. In my experience that is far from true. In my online games some of the sexiest avatars, which are created by the players themselves in the creation screen(where you can choose attributes such as tit size and gender) , were played by women players who often went out of their way to find sexy clothing, in game, for their character to wear. In addiction the sexualisation of men is totally ignored. That is itself sexist.

No wonder why gamers get exasperated when so much junk is thrown at them.

Finally, why the hell should women be ashamed of their own bodies or representation of it?

...when some of the women complaining look like balloons or land whales? When Bouncing Boy of the LSH is the majority shape for the women complaining? I could be completely wrong, but when a lot of the people complaining about "sexy women" look like potatoes, maybe there is something behind that.

It's clear from friends in the banking industry that they the overriding reason they employ booth babes (at functions, conferences etc) is purely for "phwoar!" reasons. They know it's sexist, but do it anyway because, you know, PHWOARRR. The female bankers don't like it, but keep the peace because it's understood that's how the industry works, and they want to make money just like everyone else.

If the disgust of feminists at this is in part motivated by their own lack of sexual appeal, then I'd say that's fair enough. Why SHOULD certain women have greater employment opportunities just because they are sexuality attractive? That's hardly egalitarian.

The difference between myself and the radfems is I don't seek to ban any of this. If our culture is such that this sort of sexism is tolerated then that certainly reflects badly on us, but it is what it is.

[Suet Cardigan]

Oh sweet irony x 2 - The Guardian has closed comments on this opinion piece. As someone noted upthread, women can't handle online abuse, whereas men just need to "stfu and htfu, princess".

There are only eleven comments there. Was this closed at that point, or have they Stalinized few hundred?

Amazing lolz.

From the article:

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male sex."
If I put this on Twitter would you call the police? It’s the best first line of anything ever. It’s from Valerie Solanas’s Scum Manifesto. I don’t think like this all of the time because I am nice.

So, I completely stand by Bahar Mustafa if she used a hashtag that said #killallwhitemen.

But remember: misandry does not exist.

[Dick Strawkins]

Interesting SJW dilemma:

The bbc reports on a story about a right wing cartoon of a refugee girl.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34460325
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsp ... eegirl.png
There's no doubt that it's xenophobic - the caption, supposedly said by a ten year old child, reads:

"I want to live a safe and clean life, eat gourmet food, go out, wear pretty things, and live a luxurious life… all at the expense of someone else," reads the text on the illustration above. "I have an idea. I'll become a refugee."

But is it racist?

Even if we equate xenophobia with racism there is a problem for SJW's - the artist in question, being Japanese, is, in SJW terms, a 'Person Of Color'.
According to Bahar "#killallwhitemen" Mustafa, people of color cannot be racist because racism consists of prejudice plus power.
Since white men have all the power only they can be racist.
:think:

[Suet Cardigan]

Interesting SJW dilemma:

The bbc reports on a story about a right wing cartoon of a refugee girl.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34460325
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsp ... eegirl.png
There's no doubt that it's xenophobic - the caption, supposedly said by a ten year old child, reads:

"I want to live a safe and clean life, eat gourmet food, go out, wear pretty things, and live a luxurious life… all at the expense of someone else," reads the text on the illustration above. "I have an idea. I'll become a refugee."

But is it racist?

Even if we equate xenophobia with racism there is a problem for SJW's - the artist in question, being Japanese, is, in SJW terms, a 'Person Of Color'.
According to Bahar "#killallwhitemen" Mustafa, people of color cannot be racist because racism consists of prejudice plus power.
Since white men have all the power only they can be racist.
:think:

Well, the Nazis thought the Japanese were honorary Aryans ...

[Søren Lilholt]

http://i.imgur.com/OktPLya.png

I'm not sure there's much of a difference between "editing" public books of others to fit your ideology and burning them.

In other news, Katy Waldman reminds us all that women can be terrible writers, too, and in only a few hundred words. You know how The Martian features strong, brave, independent female characters who are clearly not there for sexual purposes and how we should see this as a step forward for women in STEM? Trick question.

The Martian glorifies a specifically male nerdery, one whose values sync up with those of traditional masculinity: physical endurance, survival in a hostile landscape, honor, adulation. Nerddom, which shelters all types, has become one of the last refuges for OG manhood. An ancient strain of mind/body dualism characterizes the brain as male and the flesh as female; Andy Weir’s nerd fantasy taps right into it. In The Martian, “all the best guys at JPL” put their heads together to steer Watney through his intellectual obstacle course. Here’s crewmate Vogel getting the update on his kids from his wife: “The children are fine. Eliza has a crush on a new boy in her class, and Victor has been named goalkeeper for his high school’s team.” The NASA leaders are all men. The PR specialist—rendered in four adjectival strokes: “confident, high-ranking, beautiful, and universally respected”—is a woman. Commander Melissa Lewis (Jessica Chastain in the movie) is essentially a man in a woman suit.

You'll be happy to know those in the comments are taking this terrible writer to task.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... adies.html

HOW FEMINISM WORKS

1) Focus on an innocuous piece of popular art currently doing the rounds.
2) Contrive a way to make it fit radfem dogma.
3) Get attention and therefore reasoned criticism from sane people.
4) Win.

[Dick Strawkins]

So, I completely stand by Bahar Mustafa if she used a hashtag that said #killallwhitemen.

But remember: misandry does not exist.

I'm guessing that Mustafa is getting charged specifically for the #killallwhitemen tweet.
As far as I know, there is a valid case for her to answer here due to the UK laws on hate speech.

You can legally say that other races are lesser or more criminal or whatever, but if you stray into advocating or inciting violence against them you have crossed the line into hate speech. You can argue that it's a bad law, but it is on the books and others, mostly working class trolls, have fallen foul of this in the past and been sent to prison. Is it fair that a rich middle class person like Mustafa should not suffer the same consequences?

I think it is more than likely that Mustafa, like most SJWs, is simply full of hot air. She was trolling and looking for attention. She assumed her SJW platitudes about racism only apply to white people and not to anyone else.

I would love for her case to go to court simply to hear her pronounce to the judge and jury that it's simply impossible for her to be racist and then see their reaction.

[Søren Lilholt]

At that point one could say that if now one picked say 1000 universes, about 300 of them would have a Biblical Jesus. One *can not* say that a particular universe picked at random has a probability of 0.3 for a Biblical Jesus to exist.

Erm...why not?

If it's true to say that 3 times out of 10 a given universe will have a Biblical Jesus in it, it's true to say that a given universe has a 0.3 chance of containing one. The probability collapses to 0 or 1 once we know the answer, but as long as we don't, the probability is informative.

If I pick a random card from a deck, keep it face down, and guess that it's the Ace of Spades, I still have a 1/52 chance of being correct - even though I know that the reality is that it either is or is not the Ace of Spades. No?

[Søren Lilholt]

What's with this sandwich-making shit anyway? Are we seriously supposed to believe that anyone ever said 'make me a sandwich!' to Panini-Head there?

I've never ordered a woman to make me a sandwich. I have had several women offer freely to make me a sandwich. And this gay couple I used to know offered to make a sandwich out of me.

My wife's never offered to make me a sandwich. Doesn't do my ironing, either.

Fucking feminist cunt.

[John Greg]

HAHAHAHA.

Cripes, but I am so, so glad to be a part of this royally, magnificently, profoundly wonderful diverse community.

:dance:

I love you all.

...

Platonically, of course.

...

You idiot fuckers keep me alive!

Literaly.

:hand: :oops:

More communique's coming later.

:shhh:

[fuzzy]

.

Fucking feminist cunt.

http://img.memecdn.com/my-response-to-a ... 407253.jpg

[Scented Nectar]

SN said:

Anyone remember The Battered Wives?

I do. When I was working at Mothers Sandwich Shoppe on College Street (sign still there; restaurant, long, long gone), I served them en masse a couple of times. I saw them at one or two gigs, but I cannot remember where. HAHAHA. Apropos.

I never got to see The Battered Wives live, but I had their first album. I remember having it in 77, but wiki says came out in 78, so my memory is probably off. In 79, I moved out on my own (except that I had roommates), and also started sneaking into clubs to see bands. I was 16 so legally I was allowed to live on my own but not allowed to drink. If they were still playing in Toronto at that point, then they must not have played at The Edge or Larry's Hideaway. If they had, and I'd known about it, I'd have gone for sure. Those 2 clubs were walking distance from where I lived, plus I could always sneak in there. They didn't ask for ID. The El Mocambo on Spadina, on the other hand, was a guaranteed no-entry. One time I was so excited to see [can't even remember who] there, but they wouldn't let me in.

[Shatterface]

Anyone remember tha band Rapeman?

[rayshul]

I do remember "I'm the Scatman..."

[Suet Cardigan]

Anyone remember either of the two different bands called Vaginal Blood Fart?

http://sternodox.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/vbf.jpg

[screwtape]

Sorry guys, but I've had a revelation: rape culture can make you horny...

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[rayshul]

I grew up in a village surrounded by rape, it was really very beautiful.

[Suet Cardigan]

New rules for the Metro:

Metro.jpg

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[SM12]

New rules for the Metro:

Metro.jpg

I remember when the doctor told me I had to stop masturbating. Apparently, it was upsetting the receptionist.

[SM12]

New rules for the Metro:

Metro.jpg

When did 'Women' stop being a noun and become an adjective?

[Tribble]

http://i.imgur.com/ueRfGIC.jpg

How about a nice salad?

[SM12]

She won't get a job at Subway with that attitude.

[heddle]

The big problem with using Bayes' theorem to calculate the odds that Jesus did or did not exist is that a proper propagation of errors will show that any result is meaningless. The more complicated, the more problematic. You have many terms involving ratios (of multiplications), and in those ratios relative errors add in quadrature and in the individual terms absolute errors add in quadrature. It is bad enough that the input probabilities are at best weakly justified--the errors in those probabilities (if mentioned at all) are pulled out of one's ass. Now throw in the fact that you may have in some terms very small numbers in a denominator, and you have a perfect storm for meaningless results. So then you can engineer the result you want--even being "generous" to the opposition with some of your assumptions, but the result is meaningless. The propagated error can easily result in error bars that truly make a probability result manifestly meaningless, such as p = 0.4 ± 1.8.

Which is why I like the Bayes' Theorem corollary: With sufficiently inscrutable assumptions you can use Bayes' theorem to "prove" A. By a slight tweak in the inscrutable assumptions, you get it to "prove" not-A.

It should be illegal to use Bayes' Theorem (or QM, especially the Uncertainty Principle) unless you know what your are doing!

[acathode]

It has been suggested that Bahar Mustafa isn't getting in trouble for her #killallmen tweets, but these tweets instead.

i.imgur.com/LLdEyW4.jpg

i.imgur.com/iq921K6.jpg

Seriously, that is fucked up. So she didn't get in trouble until she started to advocate violence against a political group.

How screwed up do you have to be to state "any violence that happens to tories at an anti #tory #demo ain't violence. Its self defense. #TakeBackMCR"

Unlike men in general, people into to politics are more willing to play the political game and get your ass arrested for threatening them with violence.

-Soylent f98

She got arrested for those tweets? Here in Sweden that kind of things get you employment in the public service news/media...

[deLurch]

New rules for the Metro:

Metro.jpg

When did 'Women' stop being a noun and become an adjective?

Ever since it became a #1 sign that you are a creepy fedora wearing neck-beard misogynist when you use the word "female."

Therefore you must use woman in all situations where you might have used female as above.

If you are at all confused, or think the usage is klunky, this isn't any worse than the decade US citizens felt obliged to call the following black people African Americans:
* British blacks
* Caribbean blacks,
* African blacks
* Any nationality at all if you were black, you had to be called African Americans.

And if you happened to be a white person born in Africa, who had moved to the US and become a US citizen, you were absolutely positively not allowed to call yourself an African American.

[Scented Nectar]

Maybe I'm old fashioned but Polyamory is hardly new. It's called having fuck buddies. Why do they have to make it seem so damned complicated? Just say they like sex with more than one partner and that's it. Done.

Fuck buddies doesn't sound enough like an oppressed group. Fuckbuddiephobia just doesn't have the same ring to it as polyamoriphobia does.

[deLurch]

Suet,
It appears the correct form should be one of these:
Womanly, womanlike, womanish

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/womanly

And there are some other handy similar words:

Related forms
half-womanly, adjective

[franc]

HAHAHAHA.

Cripes, but I am so, so glad to be a part of this royally, magnificently, profoundly wonderful diverse community.

:dance:

I love you all.

If you were a girl, I'd kick you in the cunt.

[franc]

SN said:

Anyone remember The Battered Wives?

I do. When I was working at Mothers Sandwich Shoppe on College Street (sign still there; restaurant, long, long gone), I served them en masse a couple of times. I saw them at one or two gigs, but I cannot remember where. HAHAHA. Apropos.

I never got to see The Battered Wives live, but I had their first album. I remember having it in 77, but wiki says came out in 78, so my memory is probably off. In 79, I moved out on my own (except that I had roommates), and also started sneaking into clubs to see bands.

Canuck cunt, what about DayGlo Abortions?

[Ape+lust]

http://imgur.com/lpAyyzg.jpg

Awww yeah, Ape+

Love the spooge fluid dynamics especially, plus thoughtful choices of wardrobe along with body position... how long do you spend finding images for something like this?

Thank you, Cnutella :D

This one was simple. I had Carrier and Heina in poses I wanted to use, but they lacked legs. Fortunately, Heina had another set that fit. Carrier's legs came from the web, didn't take long to find. And whenever Greta's ready to rumble, she dresses the part, so choices can range from butt nekkid to a crop-wielding dominatrix.

http://imgur.com/bglArpx.jpg

[Service Dog]

New rules for the Metro:

http://i.imgur.com/Xt996tX.jpg

According to the fine print, the Metro is a 'safe space' now?

And the KKK was right: "Staring" at "Our Women" "contributes to violence against women," boy.
::Lynching emoji::


Also-- why didn't they put Rape on the list? They should tech men not to rape.
This omission proves we live in a Rape Culture.

[feathers]

Maybe I'm old fashioned but Polyamory is hardly new. It's called having fuck buddies. Why do they have to make it seem so damned complicated? Just say they like sex with more than one partner and that's it. Done.

Ah, but I'm certain Dr Carrier PhD will be able to explain how polyamory is totally not the same as old-fashioned promiscuous sex.

[Kirbmarc]

The big problem with using Bayes' theorem to calculate the odds that Jesus did or did not exist is that a proper propagation of errors will show that any result is meaningless. The more complicated, the more problematic. You have many terms involving ratios (of multiplications), and in those ratios relative errors add in quadrature and in the individual terms absolute errors add in quadrature. It is bad enough that the input probabilities are at best weakly justified--the errors in those probabilities (if mentioned at all) are pulled out of one's ass. Now throw in the fact that you may have in some terms very small numbers in a denominator, and you have a perfect storm for meaningless results. So then you can engineer the result you want--even being "generous" to the opposition with some of your assumptions, but the result is meaningless. The propagated error can easily result in error bars that truly make a probability result manifestly meaningless, such as p = 0.4 ± 1.8.

Which is why I like the Bayes' Theorem corollary: With sufficiently inscrutable assumptions you can use Bayes' theorem to "prove" A. By a slight tweak in the inscrutable assumptions, you get it to "prove" not-A.

It should be illegal to use Bayes' Theorem (or QM, especially the Uncertainty Principle) unless you know what your are doing!

I agree completely. However this isn't simply true for the topic "existence of Jesus" but for many other topics as well. Bayes' theorem is, at its best, useful for controlled situations, like an experiment with clear instructions and a thoroughly described setup which is possible to replicate.

There's also the issue of "which Jesus are we talking about". A Jewish preacher who lived roughly around the same years shown in the gospels, who said and did some of the things that are reported (not necessarily very accurately) in the gospels is a very different assumption from a hypothetical Son of God who behaved exactly like it's reported in the gospel and whose words and deeds where reported with absolute precision.

Even the most fervent Christian believer has to admit, if they're intellectually honest, that in a time where no recording devices existed it's perfectly possible that word of mouth might have changed or adapted or added details or confused dates, events, and persons. Taking the gospels as an infallible, unbiased, rational and perfectly accurate historic source is very intellectually dishonest, especially since we DO NOT take other ancient sources as infallible, unbiased, rational and perfectly accurate.

Few people these days would argue that Herodotus or Caesar's reports of supernatural events (like the ghost of Philippi) are reliable evidence of the supernatural. And yet many Christians argue that the gospels are reliable evidence of the supernatural powers and events of Jesus.

There's also the issue with many geographical, historical and internal inconsistencies of the gospels (the issue of the year of the census, or the nonsense about two different genealogies from a man which was reputed to be "son of god").

And of course it's perfectly possible for myths to arise about existent and non-existent people, or a mix of both, very quickly (like in the John Frum cult) and it's also perfectly possible that the choice of gospel which was made in the First Council of Nicaea leaves out different interpretations of Jesus as a mythical being and not as an actual human being (and there is some evidence of this).

Carrier has a point when he suggests that taking the "Jesus was a real person" assumption as something which can't be questioned is bad historical research (especially now, when other accounts, like Herodotus or Caesar, are scrutinized more intently and not taken at face value, and the existence of some other "famous people", like Pythagoras, Homer or Lycurgus, is also described as questionable).

Carrier goes overboard when he attempts to come up with some definitive number about the "probability" of the existence of a historical Jesus, and especially when he commits several intellectual dishonest acts in misrepresenting some evidence or the position of his critics.

The "Jesus myth" theory shouldn't be discarded just because Carrier represents it so badly. It shouldn't also be hailed as "the truth" (and neither should any of the "real Jesus" theories) when there isn't enough conclusive evidence one way or the other.

[debaser71]

While in Boston they use gender neutral language and feature pictures of men.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/ ... story.html

Granted from the article it sounds like (although it doesn't say) that it's really calling for men to call out other men.

[franc]

Wire, ex-lion tamer. Greatest.Pop.Song.Ever - for nectar

[youtube]wOpHbdiZVTA[/youtube]

If above breaks -

[franc]

And Hank's version -

[youtube]weiSpc_xxjI[/youtube]

or -

Respect was paid.

[Ape+lust]

New rules for the Metro:

http://i.imgur.com/Xt996tX.jpg

If you are unable to refrain from harassing other passengers, please change seats and notify the bus operator.

That's a step beyond just "teaching men not to..."

"If you are unable to refrain from xxxx, please stay home and notify authorities."

If xxxx = stealing, raping, assaulting, kidnapping, or lying as a public official, it would end serious crime in our lifetimes. We would sing songs to the genius of justice warriors.

[katamari Damassi]

But how do you look in a mini-skirt?

I am actively pro-confrontation and would rock a mini-skirt, but I simply can't make it, sorry. I know you are all disappointed, but I am busy. Plus I need a six-month lead time to shave my back. If I show up au naturale, they may begin to regret their derisive tone towards Bigfoot hunters.

I'm so turned on right now.

[franc]

And still Wire, not just a proto-punk visionary exercise. These need a high end stereo, good cans and a nice hallucinogen -

[youtube]OnIXXe83fe4[/youtube]

or -

[youtube]V1gAoDmeD7w[/youtube]

or -

[John D]

Maybe I'm old fashioned but Polyamory is hardly new. It's called having fuck buddies. Why do they have to make it seem so damned complicated? Just say they like sex with more than one partner and that's it. Done.

Ah, but I'm certain Dr Carrier PhD will be able to explain how polyamory is totally not the same as old-fashioned promiscuous sex.

My oldest daughter explains polyamory as more of a committed and loving relationship than fuck buddies. The idea is that there is more caring outside of simply having sex. Carrier is not doing it right. Carrier is just hooking up. My daughter actually got pissed when I told her the Carrier story and she said he was doing it wrong.

I actually understand what she is getting at. Her second "heartfriend" has a much different relationship with my daughter and our family than a fuck friend would have. We have game night together, and have dinner together, and go camping together. So, I honestly think polyamory is looking for something different.

I will add however, that this multiple relationship stuff is tricky and I am not so sure it is a good idea. My daughter just got officially engaged with partner number one (whom she has dated for 6 years). It is well known that partner number two is not marriage material and everyone knows this. The day of the announced engagement partner number two published one of those "drama whore" facebook posts about not being loved and being alone at the wrong time and shit. I talked to my daughter about this and she said that partner two was just lonely and they spent time together a few days later... and went to the park and blah blah blah. Hmmmmm...... To me, this is a broken relationship. How can partner two ever really feel fulfilled with this? My daughter is making plans to move out of state... what happens then? I guess they just break up or something. It is all pretty "problematic" in my mind. Perhaps fuck buddies is better.

[Cnutella]

I grew up in a village surrounded by rape, it was really very beautiful.

I'm allergic to rape. It makes my eyes red and puffy and I literally can't even.

[Sulman]

We have game night together, and have dinner together, and go camping together. So, I honestly think polyamory is looking for something different.

It doesn't work; they all end up the same way, usually one person drowning in casual lays with the other not.

You can't beat thousands of years of evolved wiring. You just can't.

[Ape+lust]

Maybe I'm old fashioned but Polyamory is hardly new. It's called having fuck buddies. Why do they have to make it seem so damned complicated? Just say they like sex with more than one partner and that's it. Done.

Ah, but I'm certain Dr Carrier PhD will be able to explain how polyamory is totally not the same as old-fashioned promiscuous sex.

He already shows how polyamory a la Carrier isn't standard polyamory. Most put some emphasis on the "amorous" part being important. Carrier advertises for blind hookups in motels, preferably with onetime sex workers (pro work without paying) who will titillate him with stories about their customers. If that's polyamory, my dog is polyamorous.

[Cnutella]

She won't get a job at Subway with that attitude.

:clap: :clap:

[Billie from Ockham]

If you replace the boring 1 and 0 with a and b you get:

((x*a + x*b)1 + (x*a + x*b)2 + ... (x*a + x*b)n) / (2 * x * n)

which goes to

x((a + b)1 + (a + b)2 + ... (a + b) n) / x(2 * n)

which goes to

n (a + b) / (2 * n) = (a + b) / 2

What justifies breaking the original series into a series of pairs? That is the key to getting .5 as the asymptote.

[Cnutella]

Suet,
It appears the correct form should be one of these:
Womanly, womanlike, womanish

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/womanly

And there are some other handy similar words:

Related forms
half-womanly, adjective

"Respect our womenlike passengers."

I can see that going over fantastically.

[Billie from Ockham]

Interesting SJW dilemma:

The bbc reports on a story about a right wing cartoon of a refugee girl.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34460325
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsp ... eegirl.png
There's no doubt that it's xenophobic - the caption, supposedly said by a ten year old child, reads:

"I want to live a safe and clean life, eat gourmet food, go out, wear pretty things, and live a luxurious life… all at the expense of someone else," reads the text on the illustration above. "I have an idea. I'll become a refugee."

But is it racist?

If by "it" you mean the picture and caption, then my answer is "No." It's about refugees, so you'd be making the Islamaphobia-is-racism error if you say "Yes."

If by "it" you mean the author(s) of the picture and caption, then my answer is "I have no idea and I don't care."

[debaser71]

Isn't dealing with one significant other enough? I love my wife but the idea of having many people like her in my life seems nightmarish. YMMV and that's cool too.

[franc]

We have game night together, and have dinner together, and go camping together. So, I honestly think polyamory is looking for something different.

It doesn't work; they all end up the same way, usually one person drowning in casual lays with the other not.

You can't beat thousands of years of evolved wiring. You just can't.

Unresearched statistic - how many "polyamory" situations result in mammalian territorial violence?

I vomit when I remember folks that thought they were "above" monogamy dabbling in polyamory. Maybe 1% can deal with it. 99% don't. It's ugly town.

New age bullshit. People get sucked in to show they are "enlightened". What utter crap.

We are mammals. We have instincts. You fuck with those instincts with po-mo "experimentation", shit will happen.

I am an animal. I am base. I entertain no notions this idiocy works. One horse, one saddle. That's the blunt reality you fucking idiots.