Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

#29641

Another article about students demanding trigger warnings, but that last demand was new...

Students demanding to be warned about unpleasant elements in teaching. It has become a new challenge for teachers at Globala gymnasiet [=high school] in Stockholm.

What do the students want be warned about?

- It can be rape scenes or racism in films and books used in teaching. But it can also be depictions of heterosexual love between white people, which are perceived as norm-reinforcing, says Pernilla Ericols, principal at Globala gymnasiet.

:cdc:

#29642

Is Osgood transZygon?

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tar ... 1125072633

#29643

windy wrote:Another article about students demanding trigger warnings, but that last demand was new...

Students demanding to be warned about unpleasant elements in teaching. It has become a new challenge for teachers at Globala gymnasiet [=high school] in Stockholm.

What do the students want be warned about?

- It can be rape scenes or racism in films and books used in teaching. But it can also be depictions of heterosexual love between white people, which are perceived as norm-reinforcing, says Pernilla Ericols, principal at Globala gymnasiet.
:cdc:

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Why is "Trigger Warning" written in English but the rest of it is in Viking-Speak (or whatever the fuck language it is)?

#29644

Reminds me of the "single surprise quiz paradox" (which concerns the impossibility of having a single surprise quiz during a semester). As soon as trigger warnings require trigger warnings, you have an infinite regress.

#29645

Suet Cardigan wrote:Why is "Trigger Warning" written in English but the rest of it is in Viking-Speak (or whatever the fuck language it is)?

Try to picture Ragnar Lothbrok providing a "trigger warning" and then get back to us if you still don't see why it had to be in some other language.

#29646

suet cardigan wrote;

Why is "Trigger Warning" written in English but the rest of it is in Viking-Speak (or whatever the fuck language it is)?

Ancient Icelandic.

#29647

Gary Edwards and King Crocoduck highlighting the science wars aspect in the dispute with SJWs. The world outside is catching up ;)

[youtube]LBos2vleMK0[/youtube]

Bonus
[youtube]EJDknmptrMw[/youtube]

#29648

Another totally false article from Daily Kos:
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?800982

Others have been doxxed since this incident. Another person who was known for speaking out against Thunderfoot, HannibaltheVictor13 has been framed as a sex offender. His name was also on the list of people to be doxxed by the trolls at Baphomet. This was done purely out of spite because a few people dared to stand up against a demagogue who makes his living downplaying and shitting on the experiences of women on the internet and doing the same to those who dare to question him.

Anyone who has paid attention to the 'Youtube Atheist Community' long enough will see that this sort of thing is standard operating procedure for the Almighty Rabbit and his loyal followers

Although this was published on Tuesday, before other checks into public records showed that HannibaltheVictor :roll: has in fact been convicted as a sex offender, that doesn't excuse an alleged writer on an alleged news site to check their facts and certainly doesn't excuse them from leaving false information up. They have such a hate on for people that disagree with their bullshit pomo feminist dogma that they will embrace and even lie for pedos that happen to agree with them.
Now that's real social justice for you.

#29649

free thoughtpolice wrote:Another totally false article from Daily Kos:
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?800982

Others have been doxxed since this incident. Another person who was known for speaking out against Thunderfoot, HannibaltheVictor13 has been framed as a sex offender. His name was also on the list of people to be doxxed by the trolls at Baphomet. This was done purely out of spite because a few people dared to stand up against a demagogue who makes his living downplaying and shitting on the experiences of women on the internet and doing the same to those who dare to question him.

Anyone who has paid attention to the 'Youtube Atheist Community' long enough will see that this sort of thing is standard operating procedure for the Almighty Rabbit and his loyal followers
Although this was published on Tuesday, before other checks into public records showed that HannibaltheVictor :roll: has in fact been convicted as a sex offender, that doesn't excuse an alleged writer on an alleged news site to check their facts and certainly doesn't excuse them from leaving false information up. They have such a hate on for people that disagree with their bullshit pomo feminist dogma that they will embrace and even lie for pedos that happen to agree with them.
Now that's real social justice for you.

Oh, good that this article wasn't written by Margaret Pless who usually writes these articles on DailyKos, as I was worrying about my mental health. Ms Pless admitted to doxing herself, AND defended Sarah Butts the ~~nazi and paedophile~~ “former Edgelord ”anti-gamergate personality. Nothing surprises me with SJW anymore. I wonder what would happen if their extreme doublestandards and Huge Lies one time became public knowledge in full glory.

#29650

Aneris wrote:

Oh, good that this article wasn't written by Margaret Pless who usually writes these articles on DailyKos, as I was worrying about my mental health. Ms Pless admitted to doxing herself, AND defended Sarah Butts the nazi and paedophile “former Edgelord ”anti-gamergate personality. Nothing surprises me with SJW anymore. I wonder what would happen if their extreme doublestandards and Huge Lies one time became public knowledge in full glory.

The fear of the day when people become aware of their tactics and vacuous ideology may drive some of their desperate attempt to silence their critics. Apparently there is flagging campaign going on to to silence critics of Laughing Witch and Jenny Mc Dermott. This whole thing was because Thunderf00t criticized Anita Sarkeesian. They appear to be aware they can't win the argument unless it's one sided in their favor.

#29651

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#29652

Aneris wrote:/\
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#29653

Reagan killed the pit.

#29654

He killed the Soviet Union too, so not surprising. :rimshot:

#29655

Didn't Crass have some Thatcher-era war crime tapes, from the falkland island skirmish?

#29656

The Pit is so slow these days. I suspect that anyone who could be arsed would find a direct correlation with FfTB's figures. A project for Brive, perhaps?

#29657

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:The Pit is so slow these days. I suspect that anyone who could be arsed would find a direct correlation with FfTB's figures. A project for Brive, perhaps?

Brive is writing for Patheos now.

#29658

So I started playing rhythm guitar in a country band this weekend and one of the songs I've gathered is "The Chair" as sung by George Strait. Described by Wikipedia here:

'The lyrics represent a conversation between a man and a woman at a bar, but only the man's side of the conversation is revealed. At the beginning he says, "Well excuse me, but I think you've got my chair." Over the course of the conversation, the talk grows more intimate, until the woman agrees to let the man drive her home. At the end he says, "Oh I like you too, and to tell you the truth, that wasn't my chair after all."'

It made me wonder if, had this fictitiois couple coupled that evening, whether his lie might constitute raep under some of the more egregious new laws going around.

#29659

You will all appreciate the irony in this. Essentially, this feminist (Germaine Greer for those of you who give a damn) says

for goodness sake, people get hurt all the time, I’m not about to walk on eggshells

when told that her comments regarding the transgender community could be perceived as hurtful. Bwahahahahahahahaha! The irony is so good. It was only a matter of time before these professional victim groups started to turn on one another. It's slowly escalating and soon they'll all be too busy punching down on each other to realize that teh patriarchy is stronger than ever.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/26/theres-a-f ... yn-jenner/

#29660

Maybe Brother Nate can help us out of our current lulz slump:
[youtube]W1auf5iV_g8[/youtube]

#29661

Made 125 bucks in two nights. ka-ching

#29662

Pitsters, OMG, it's so awesome to be back home coddled in the nanny-bosom of 'Straya.

I've been holidaying at various points in the Med with my wife, kids and mother-in-law. My first time in Europe! The trip included my wife's family's home-island. The people were so endearingly crooked and dodgy - I fitted right in.

Anyway, I was stare-raped by more late-middle-aged hotties than you can poke my stick at. Mein Got, but those fifty-plus Southern European woman are awesome. Also, I can report the men were beautiful, too. I've not had gai-secks (yet), but damn those swarthy Med-type guys can rock a pair of slacks and Aviators .

Among other adventures, I also briefly fell in eye-contact-love with the Polish chick wot made my coffee most mornings in Malta - my wife reckons it was an accent-crush. I'm monogamous, but a lecherous perv.

John Greg, sorry and glad in the one breath to see you hit some bumps, but have been carried along by Pit-love.

Anyway, back now to my real-life, which includes a degree coal-face contact and battle with SJWs and their increasing common-ground with slippery authoritarian purveyors of thought-law, anti-science and social woo.

Its good to be back home and refreshed.

I've recently commenced post-grad studies which have required that the time I would otherwise have spent reading the Pit be allocated to course-reading and study, so Pit-wise I've gotten a fair way behind.

But circs have allowed me to catch up a bit the last week, and I'm up to page 417 (so I don't yet know whether JC's second coming was short-lived) and will be caught up by the weekend.

Hooray for Happiness!

#29663

h/t @CathyYoung63

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... -intimacy/

Teaching consent, policing intimacy
Consent classes turn relationships into business transactions.

by Frank Furedi

#29664

My interest in the Elyse Shitshow subsided today.
She moved into an apartment, apparently minus husband.
Hope the change is a fresh start for all involved.

One stale little lul: Elyse is cruising for men via app.
She's talking her usual 'I want a superhero to fight the white patriarchy' crap.

Hensley gets turned on, and...
http://i.imgur.com/vqx8bm6.png

#29665

fuzzy wrote:Made 125 bucks in two nights. ka-ching

Did you just dox yourself as Dr Richard Carrier PhD, world-reknown dinner-companion escort-whore?

#29666

To put things in perspective, here's some 3rd world drama:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... trikes.php

#29667

Service Dog wrote:My interest in the Elyse Shitshow subsided today.
She moved into an apartment, apparently minus husband.
Hope the change is a fresh start for all involved.

One stale little lul: Elyse is cruising for men via app.
She's talking her usual 'I want a superhero to fight the white patriarchy' crap.

Hensley gets turned on, and...
http://i.imgur.com/vqx8bm6.png

What the fuck is wrong with her? She can't go a week without sex, not even the week after her husband/ possible babydaddy got arrested and moved out? She's fucking 45, not 17. She doesn't give a shit about her poor kids.

#29668

BillHampReturns wrote:You will all appreciate the irony in this. Essentially, this feminist (Germaine Greer for those of you who give a damn) says
for goodness sake, people get hurt all the time, I’m not about to walk on eggshells
when told that her comments regarding the transgender community could be perceived as hurtful. Bwahahahahahahahaha! The irony is so good. It was only a matter of time before these professional victim groups started to turn on one another. It's slowly escalating and soon they'll all be too busy punching down on each other to realize that teh patriarchy is stronger than ever.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/26/theres-a-f ... yn-jenner/

The writer of the article misspelled "eunuch". But, you know, writing is hard, particularly when you have a women's studies degree and your job is to summarize other articles.

#29669

Suet Cardigan wrote:
windy wrote:Another article about students demanding trigger warnings, but that last demand was new...

Students demanding to be warned about unpleasant elements in teaching. It has become a new challenge for teachers at Globala gymnasiet [=high school] in Stockholm.

What do the students want be warned about?

- It can be rape scenes or racism in films and books used in teaching. But it can also be depictions of heterosexual love between white people, which are perceived as norm-reinforcing, says Pernilla Ericols, principal at Globala gymnasiet.
:cdc:

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Why is "Trigger Warning" written in English but the rest of it is in Viking-Speak (or whatever the fuck language it is)?

Because there's not a good translation for the verb "trigger" in Swedish. We actually already borrowed it and made "trigga" (meaning "to trigger") into a Swedish word, but it doesn't work in "trigger warning" because it's the wrong form.

You can translate trigger as "utlösa", making "trigger warning" into "Utlösningsvarning". Problem is, "utlösning" also mean "ejaculate" (as in to cum) - and that's the first thing people would associate it to, giving "Utlösningsvarning" a... very different meaning.

So, since most Swedes have no problem understanding English, it's much easier to just leave it untranslated. Also, it's an English term that quite a few people already are familiar with via internet discussions, and those will likely be using the English term when talking Swedish... even if there was a good translation, chances are it would still be in English to avoid confusion.

Btw, worth mentioning: That school is a infamous SJW stronghold. Kids with the wrong political beliefs there get ostracized and many end up changing schools.

All schools tend to have mock-elections during election year - that school had a result along the lines of 35% Feminist Initiative (which got 3% in the real election - full blown SJW feminists btw), 36% the Greens (got 6,9%, also became full blown SJWs this election, to compete with FI), 17% the Leftist party (ex communist party, got 5,7%), and the Social Democrats got the remaining mandates. Making any the Social Democrats the right wing in that school... The real 4 right parties, got together with SD a total of 6%ish...

The school btw do have a Marxist club. Pics of their recent posters was circulated on twitter recently - quick translation:

6/10: Marxist feminism.
13/10: Terrorism as revolutionary tactic.
20/10: Refugees welcome - How to combat the refugee crisis?

Meetups every Tuesday 15.00. in B308

-----
Should give you a good idea of just what kind of school that is... I'm sure they preface their terrorism discussion with trigger warnings though ;)

Guest_84d94f98 · #29670

Service Dog wrote:My interest in the Elyse Shitshow subsided today.
She moved into an apartment, apparently minus husband.
Hope the change is a fresh start for all involved.

One stale little lul: Elyse is cruising for men via app.
She's talking her usual 'I want a superhero to fight the white patriarchy' crap.

Hensley gets turned on, and...
i.imgur.com/vqx8bm6.png

How do you know? I interpreted her having her "own" closet & your "own" apartment as in not having to live in her parents home anymore. Not that she abandoned her current husband.

Really? wrote:What the fuck is wrong with her? She can't go a week without sex, not even the week after her husband/ possible babydaddy got arrested and moved out? She's fucking 45, not 17. She doesn't give a shit about her poor kids.

I think most of us have come to the conclusion that her husband being in jail was 99% likely to have been a delusion of hers. Hell, soon after that was was all thank full that her father now understands that she suffers from mental illness and is not just raging alcoholic.

-Soylent f98

#29671

Tumblrwumblr

#29672

rayshul wrote:

Tumblrwumblr

I'll see your Tumblr, and raise you an Everyday Feminism:

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/08/whi ... ating-poc/

#29673

Suet Cardigan wrote:
trigger.png
Why is "Trigger Warning" written in English but the rest of it is in Viking-Speak (or whatever the fuck language it is)?

Because, let me put this clear, 98% of this radfem codswallop originates from the USA or the UK before it contaminates civilised Europe, and we can't be bothered to translate the barrage of insanity you bestow upon us. So there.

#29674

rayshul wrote:

Tumblrwumblr

Excellent

#29675

acathode wrote:
Students demanding to be warned about unpleasant elements in teaching. It has become a new challenge for teachers at Globala gymnasiet [=high school] in Stockholm.

The school btw do have a Marxist club. Pics of their recent posters was circulated on twitter recently - quick translation:

6/10: Marxist feminism.
13/10: Terrorism as revolutionary tactic.
20/10: Refugees welcome - How to combat the refugee crisis?

Meetups every Tuesday 15.00. in B308

-----
Should give you a good idea of just what kind of school that is... I'm sure they preface their terrorism discussion with trigger warnings though ;)

Well well well, that should have the attention of the Säpo now shouldn't it?

Unless Carl Hamilton really works for them, that is.

Guest_84d94f98 · #29676

"For a Better Selfie, Have a Computer Process 2 Million of Them"
nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/better-selfie-have-computer-process-2-million-them-n454671

Article wrote:And if you're curious how your selfies stack up, if you mention Karpathy's @deepselfie Twitter bot in a tweet with an image, it'll tell you which pile it thinks your picture would end up in. Don't take it personally, though — after all, it's just a computer, right?

Top 100 selfies of 50,000:
veuwer.com/i/3be8.jpg

Deep Selfie Blog wrote:Do:
* Be female. Women are consistently ranked higher than men. In particular, notice that there is not a single guy in the top 100.
* Face should occupy about 1/3 of the image. Notice that the position and pose of the face is quite consistent among the top images. The face always occupies about 1/3 of the image, is slightly tilted, and is positioned in the center and at the top. Which also brings me to:
* Cut off your forehead. What's up with that? It looks like a popular strategy, at least for women.
* Show your long hair. Notice the frequent prominence of long strands of hair running down the shoulders.
* Oversaturate the face. Notice the frequent occurrence of over-saturated lighting, which often makes the face look much more uniform and faded out. Related to that,
* Put a filter on it. Black and White photos seem to do quite well, and most of the top images seem to contain some kind of a filter that fades out the image and decreases the contrast.
* Add a border. You will notice a frequent appearance of horizontal/vertical white borders.

Selfie blog:
karpathy.github.io/2015/10/25/selfie/

Guest_84d94f98 · #29677

- Soylent f98

#29678

Guest_84d94f98 wrote:
Deep Selfie Blog wrote:Do:
* Be female. Women are consistently ranked higher than men. In particular, notice that there is not a single guy in the top 100.
* Face should occupy about 1/3 of the image. Notice that the position and pose of the face is quite consistent among the top images. The face always occupies about 1/3 of the image, is slightly tilted, and is positioned in the center and at the top. Which also brings me to:
* Cut off your forehead. What's up with that? It looks like a popular strategy, at least for women.
* Show your long hair. Notice the frequent prominence of long strands of hair running down the shoulders.
* Oversaturate the face. Notice the frequent occurrence of over-saturated lighting, which often makes the face look much more uniform and faded out. Related to that,
* Put a filter on it. Black and White photos seem to do quite well, and most of the top images seem to contain some kind of a filter that fades out the image and decreases the contrast.
* Add a border. You will notice a frequent appearance of horizontal/vertical white borders.

You have to crop your head to include breasts in the picture, which is essential even if they're not prominently visible due to the hair.

Guest_84d94f98 · #29679

feathers wrote:You have to crop your head to include breasts in the picture, which is essential even if they're not prominently visible due to the hair.

Surprisingly, the majority of the top selected shots are not showing a lot of skin, nor cleavage or breast shots.

Of course, given their methodology, the top rated pictures were picked up Instagram users which would be a combination of both men AND women.

So perhaps feeding the system with something like Hot or Not Pics, where the majority or raters would be the opposite sex might find better gender preferences.

-Soylent f98

#29680

Dick Strawkins wrote:
rayshul wrote:

Tumblrwumblr
I'll see your Tumblr, and raise you an Everyday Feminism:

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/08/whi ... ating-poc/

7. If You Only Date People of Color (And Especially from One Group in Particular), Check Yourself

I’d love to be able to give you a formula – some kind of foolproof ratio of number-of-white-to-POC partners – to help you determine if you’re racist because you don’t date enough outside of whiteness or if you’re racist because you too often date outside of whiteness. But such a thing simply doesn’t exist.

But I do think it’s important to recognize what you’re doing if you’re only dating people of color, and especially from any one race or culture in particular.

I will give the author that racism probably does play a factor in a lot of people dating choices. What I won't give the author is making people feel bad about that.

If you are able to pull off treating all people with dignity and respect but just don't want to fuck Mexicans then you are pretty okay in my book.

#29681

Aneris wrote:Oh, good that this article wasn't written by Margaret Pless who usually writes these articles on DailyKos, as I was worrying about my mental health. Ms Pless admitted to doxing herself, AND defended Sarah Butts the ~~nazi and paedophile~~ “former Edgelord ”anti-gamergate personality. Nothing surprises me with SJW anymore. I wonder what would happen if their extreme doublestandards and Huge Lies one time became public knowledge in full glory.

Keep in mind that anyone can write an "article" for the DailyKos. It is a "liberal" blog/live-journaling website where the post popular blog posts filter to the top. It is kind of like Slashdot's journaling system, however Slashdot focuses more on curated news and submissions, and it rarely if ever takes promotes people's journals.

#29682

comhcinc wrote:I will give the author that racism probably does play a factor in a lot of people dating choices. What I won't give the author is making people feel bad about that.

If you are able to pull off treating all people with dignity and respect but just don't want to fuck Mexicans then you are pretty okay in my book.

Hmmm...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

racism
noun rac·ism \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
: the belief that some races of people are better than others

Full Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

Well I guess a lack of attraction to a certain race would fall under the 2nd definition of racial discrimination. The way I view it is that you just can't help what you are attracted to. Some people really like blondes, brunettes, red heads, big breasts, small breasts, slim women, chubby women, athletic women, muscular women, smart women, dumb women. Of course most people wouldn't think shaming people for the attributes find that turn them on. Hell, we don't get upset with gay people because the men prefer penises, and the women prefer vaginas. You just can't help what you like.

For me, when it comes to Asian women, my brain tells me that there are a number of empirically attractive women, with good personalities, that are intelligent. But they just don't do anything for me. That isn't to say that I might find an exception out there somewhere. It just hasn't happened yet. Meanwhile the whole internet seems to go ga-ga for them. Now if you go mixed race, I am all there and typically double plus attracted.

You just can't control what moves your mojo.

#29683

acathode wrote:
feathers wrote:
acathode wrote:As for the anti-racism stuff, feminists have a really shitty track record. Not to long ago several immigrant women dared to voice their problems with the increasing Islamism in certain, immigrant heavy Swedish suburbs - giving examples of how women would be harassed in the streets for not wearing veils, how some cafes didn't allow woman customers, and so on. The response from the leftists feminists was.... to do a Watson, ie. accuse the women of spreading "racists thoughts".
Hey manchauvisnist racist overneighbour, please let us know what becomes of the evacuation of that illegal Roma camp in Malmö, tomorrow at 16:00 or thereafter. Most specifically, the leftwing/autonomous demonstrations I expect- I have some of those kids in a certain house in my neighbourhood who are not too lame to cross the Bridge for a bit of fun.
Oh... that shit makes my blood boil.

The short story of it is:
1. Roma from Rumania and Bulgaria comes to Sweden to beg on the streets, because with EU they can travel freely, and Sweden don't really give a shit if you stay for more than the 3 months you're legally allowed to stay in a EU country without having a proper employment etc.

2. These beggars, "EU-immigrants" as the media have dubbed them, need a place to sleep. So they simply take over an empty lot in the city of Malmö and set up camp, and build a small shanty town:
http://i.imgur.com/yof0wwt.jpg

3. This lot is owned by someone. This someone calls the police, to have the roma beggars who've taken over his property evicted. This is where it gets funny: The police tells the owner that "Nope" - getting rid of illegal occupants is not their job. As the Swedish police interpret the law, they aren't allowed to evict people who illegally settle on property other people own, that's the job of the Swedish Enforcement Authority - the government agency that otherwise mostly deal debt collection and similar stuff.

4. The Enforcement Authority tell the owner that they'll happily help him evict the roma beggars - if they are identified... The EA cannot do anything against anonymous people, and of course, the roma beggars aren't stupid enough to give their name when asked, and the police have denied the owner even this help... So the owner is left to his own, the government has basically given him a big FU, and he can only stand and watch as illegal occupants live on his property. The story doesn't end there though, because:

5. People need to take a shit. People need to take a piss. People need to be warm. People produce a lot of garbage. Even roma beggars - who live in huts with no running water, no toilets, and no electricity. Those roma beggars shit and piss on the property they've occupied. They let their garbage pile up. They keep warm by burning whatever they can find in poorly constructed stoves. In short, the property now smells... horrible. It's infested with rats, and the whole thing is a great fire hazard.

6. So the City fines the owner 50 000 SEK ($5 856.9) for not cleaning up the property...

7. The city tried to find ways to evict the illegal occupants, and a lot of courtroom stuff happens. Eventually we come to this, that's supposed to happen right now - the city evicts the illegal occupants and clean up the property... and the owner has to pay 75% of the cost, 375 000 SEK ($43 926.75) - The reason the owner doesn't have to pay 100% of the cost is because the city is generous, since the man had tried contacting both the police and the EA, the city decided they'll pay 25% of the cost...

So... Illegal occupants plants their asses on your property, and ruins the place. You contact the police. "LOL NOPE!". You contact the EA. "LOL NOPE!". 1 year later, the city have come to the conclusion that the situation is so bad, that it's a health and fire hazard to neighboring properties, so they'll evict the illegal occupants - and you "just" have to pay almost $44,000...

The sick thing is? This isn't a unique case. There's a rural house, a summer resident owned by a elderly couple in Switzerland, where now a roma family lives - they broke in, and started living there. The police won't do anything. The EA won't do anything.

This is what happens when SJWs run your media - because all of this is simply due to the fact that the police are so scared, so utterly horrified, by the hordes of SJW journalists that will rain hell down on them if they even dare lift a finger against people that the SJW journalist perceive as "unpriviliged" and "oppressed".

There are laws that make it pretty clear that the police have mandate to kick illegal occupants out, without having to ID them or anything like that - and the police have used those laws as well, when the illegal occupants where Swedes. But since the media have made it crystal clear that if the police where to act on those laws, they'll come down hard on the police, esp. whoever gives the order, the police have simply decided to "interpret" the laws so that they don't have to do anything...

That's horrible! Aren't there laws against break and enter, like when a burglar breaks into your home? The police don't only remove burglars who reveal their names, so couldn't burglary laws be used in the case of private homes? As soon as the owner starts living there again, even if for only one day, wouldn't that become a break-in situation instead of a squatting one?

How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.

Some people would consider strangers on their property day after day to be stalkers. Are there any laws that would allow police to remove stalkers from a person's place? I can't imagine that they would only remove ones who admitted their names. Some people would also fear physical violence, like rape, from guests who won't leave the premises. How about theft? Can't the police be called to remove trespassers who won't leave in when people are worried about their safety? Can the police be called when someone is urinating (and therefore also exposing themselves) on private property?

I'm usually against false accusations, but if these fuckers are even forcing people to let them stay in their private homes, then all bets are off. Call the police repeatedly. "I heard him say he was going to rape my wife/kid as soon as we move back in for the summer". Also, the couple has every right to fuck up those intruders' belongings. Dragging all unwanted items out of the occupied rooms, could easily be part of normal housekeeping.

These things might cost less than $43 926.75, especially if one has friends helping instead of hiring people. Perhaps a group of people, each of whom have intruders, can help each other out.

#29684

fuzzy wrote:So I started playing rhythm guitar in a country band this weekend and one of the songs I've gathered is "The Chair" as sung by George Strait. Described by Wikipedia here:

'The lyrics represent a conversation between a man and a woman at a bar, but only the man's side of the conversation is revealed. At the beginning he says, "Well excuse me, but I think you've got my chair." Over the course of the conversation, the talk grows more intimate, until the woman agrees to let the man drive her home. At the end he says, "Oh I like you too, and to tell you the truth, that wasn't my chair after all."'

It made me wonder if, had this fictitiois couple coupled that evening, whether his lie might constitute raep under some of the more egregious new laws going around.

I had a bit of a knock down fight on Facebook with someone from Sunday Assembly. We were discussing songs we can do for the winter/solstice season and the UK SA group suggested "Baby I't Cold Outside." This one Sunday Assembly person said she was surprised by this suggestion because the song is so "rapey!" I said I thought she was reading too much into it and that the song is flurty but not rapey. Just to double check I conferred with my wife and daughter and they agreed with me. So... haha... what did she do... she told me "Thanks for mansplaining rape to me!" Haha. Of fuck. The could be interesting. And Sunday Assembly is supposed to be "radically inclusive". Maybe we will perform "Baby It's Cold Outside" just to piss her off. Haha.

#29685

comhcinc wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
rayshul wrote:

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7. If You Only Date People of Color (And Especially from One Group in Particular), Check Yourself

I’d love to be able to give you a formula – some kind of foolproof ratio of number-of-white-to-POC partners – to help you determine if you’re racist because you don’t date enough outside of whiteness or if you’re racist because you too often date outside of whiteness. But such a thing simply doesn’t exist.

But I do think it’s important to recognize what you’re doing if you’re only dating people of color, and especially from any one race or culture in particular.
I will give the author that racism probably does play a factor in a lot of people dating choices. What I won't give the author is making people feel bad about that.

If you are able to pull off treating all people with dignity and respect but just don't want to fuck Mexicans then you are pretty okay in my book.

Dating relies on availability: if you're surrounded by people of the same ethnicity, and you don't travel a lot, you'll probably end up dating a lot of people from the exact same ethnicity.

Not every place on earth is as ethnically and culturally diverse as New York or Los Angeles. For example in the region where I live (Tessin/Ticino) the number of people of Subsaharan, Mahgreb, Middle Eastern, South Asian, East Asian, Norther American or Southern American origin are a very small minority, and many of them, for one reason or another, end up dating only within their own ethnic group.

People of white European origin who don't travel a lot (or who don't attend college parties with international students) frequently end up dating only other white Europeans.

Is that a sign of a racist bias or only a matter of statistics?

#29686

Scented Nectar wrote:Oh... that shit makes my blood boil.

The short story of it is:
1. Roma from Rumania and Bulgaria comes to Sweden to beg on the streets, because with EU they can travel freely, and Sweden don't really give a shit if you stay for more than the 3 months you're legally allowed to stay in a EU country without having a proper employment etc.

2. These beggars, "EU-immigrants" as the media have dubbed them, need a place to sleep. So they simply take over an empty lot in the city of Malmö and set up camp, and build a small shanty town:
http://i.imgur.com/yof0wwt.jpg

3. This lot is owned by someone. This someone calls the police, to have the roma beggars who've taken over his property evicted. This is where it gets funny: The police tells the owner that "Nope" - getting rid of illegal occupants is not their job. As the Swedish police interpret the law, they aren't allowed to evict people who illegally settle on property other people own, that's the job of the Swedish Enforcement Authority - the government agency that otherwise mostly deal debt collection and similar stuff.

4. The Enforcement Authority tell the owner that they'll happily help him evict the roma beggars - if they are identified... The EA cannot do anything against anonymous people, and of course, the roma beggars aren't stupid enough to give their name when asked, and the police have denied the owner even this help... So the owner is left to his own, the government has basically given him a big FU, and he can only stand and watch as illegal occupants live on his property. The story doesn't end there though, because:

5. People need to take a shit. People need to take a piss. People need to be warm. People produce a lot of garbage. Even roma beggars - who live in huts with no running water, no toilets, and no electricity. Those roma beggars shit and piss on the property they've occupied. They let their garbage pile up. They keep warm by burning whatever they can find in poorly constructed stoves. In short, the property now smells... horrible. It's infested with rats, and the whole thing is a great fire hazard.

6. So the City fines the owner 50 000 SEK ($5 856.9) for not cleaning up the property...

7. The city tried to find ways to evict the illegal occupants, and a lot of courtroom stuff happens. Eventually we come to this, that's supposed to happen right now - the city evicts the illegal occupants and clean up the property... and the owner has to pay 75% of the cost, 375 000 SEK ($43 926.75) - The reason the owner doesn't have to pay 100% of the cost is because the city is generous, since the man had tried contacting both the police and the EA, the city decided they'll pay 25% of the cost...

So... Illegal occupants plants their asses on your property, and ruins the place. You contact the police. "LOL NOPE!". You contact the EA. "LOL NOPE!". 1 year later, the city have come to the conclusion that the situation is so bad, that it's a health and fire hazard to neighboring properties, so they'll evict the illegal occupants - and you "just" have to pay almost $44,000...

The sick thing is? This isn't a unique case. There's a rural house, a summer resident owned by a elderly couple in Switzerland, where now a roma family lives - they broke in, and started living there. The police won't do anything. The EA won't do anything.

This is what happens when SJWs run your media - because all of this is simply due to the fact that the police are so scared, so utterly horrified, by the hordes of SJW journalists that will rain hell down on them if they even dare lift a finger against people that the SJW journalist perceive as "unpriviliged" and "oppressed".

There are laws that make it pretty clear that the police have mandate to kick illegal occupants out, without having to ID them or anything like that - and the police have used those laws as well, when the illegal occupants where Swedes. But since the media have made it crystal clear that if the police where to act on those laws, they'll come down hard on the police, esp. whoever gives the order, the police have simply decided to "interpret" the laws so that they don't have to do anything...

That's horrible! Aren't there laws against break and enter, like when a burglar breaks into your home? The police don't only remove burglars who reveal their names, so couldn't burglary laws be used in the case of private homes? As soon as the owner starts living there again, even if for only one day, wouldn't that become a break-in situation instead of a squatting one?

How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.

Some people would consider strangers on their property day after day to be stalkers. Are there any laws that would allow police to remove stalkers from a person's place? I can't imagine that they would only remove ones who admitted their names. Some people would also fear physical violence, like rape, from guests who won't leave the premises. How about theft? Can't the police be called to remove trespassers who won't leave in when people are worried about their safety? Can the police be called when someone is urinating (and therefore also exposing themselves) on private property?

I'm usually against false accusations, but if these fuckers are even forcing people to let them stay in their private homes, then all bets are off. Call the police repeatedly. "I heard him say he was going to rape my wife/kid as soon as we move back in for the summer". Also, the couple has every right to fuck up those intruders' belongings. Dragging all unwanted items out of the occupied rooms, could easily be part of normal housekeeping.

These things might cost less than $43 926.75, especially if one has friends helping instead of hiring people. Perhaps a group of people, each of whom have intruders, can help each other out.[/quote]
Did you see all of the caravans? The vast majority of your suggestions would end up in a gang of those people beating the ever loving shit out of you. Hiring someone else to do your dirty work for you? Unless you hire some thugs to beat the shit out of them, which would probably put your ass in jail, you are not going to be able to do any of those activities.

Excess noise would probably lead to annoying everyone else in the surrounding buildings. Not knowing the local laws in Sweden, I wouldn't know what you could or could not do. Could you video tape them threatening you and have the police act on that?

Maybe the best route would be to declare that land a parking lot, and charge 99 Krona /day to park there. And then start towing cars that have not caravans that have not paid. You would have to have a large number of heavy hitters there so that the gypsies do not attack you. And you could probably only tow unoccupied trailers so it would take a number of days. A surprise mass hit at their lowest level of people might be the best bet. Once you start to thin them out, it might take the fight out of them.

#29687

Well I fucked that quote session up. Let me try again.

Scented Nectar wrote:That's horrible! Aren't there laws against break and enter, like when a burglar breaks into your home? The police don't only remove burglars who reveal their names, so couldn't burglary laws be used in the case of private homes? As soon as the owner starts living there again, even if for only one day, wouldn't that become a break-in situation instead of a squatting one?

How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.

Some people would consider strangers on their property day after day to be stalkers. Are there any laws that would allow police to remove stalkers from a person's place? I can't imagine that they would only remove ones who admitted their names. Some people would also fear physical violence, like rape, from guests who won't leave the premises. How about theft? Can't the police be called to remove trespassers who won't leave in when people are worried about their safety? Can the police be called when someone is urinating (and therefore also exposing themselves) on private property?

I'm usually against false accusations, but if these fuckers are even forcing people to let them stay in their private homes, then all bets are off. Call the police repeatedly. "I heard him say he was going to rape my wife/kid as soon as we move back in for the summer". Also, the couple has every right to fuck up those intruders' belongings. Dragging all unwanted items out of the occupied rooms, could easily be part of normal housekeeping.

These things might cost less than $43 926.75, especially if one has friends helping instead of hiring people. Perhaps a group of people, each of whom have intruders, can help each other out.

Did you see all of the caravans? The vast majority of your suggestions would end up in a gang of those people beating the ever loving shit out of you. Hiring someone else to do your dirty work for you? Unless you hire some thugs to beat the shit out of them, which would probably put your ass in jail, you are not going to be able to do any of those activities.

Excess noise would probably lead to annoying everyone else in the surrounding buildings. Not knowing the local laws in Sweden, I wouldn't know what you could or could not do. Could you video tape them threatening you and have the police act on that?

Maybe the best route would be to declare that land a parking lot, and charge 99 Krona /day to park there. And then start towing cars that have not caravans that have not paid. You would have to have a large number of heavy hitters there so that the gypsies do not attack you. And you could probably only tow unoccupied trailers so it would take a number of days. A surprise mass hit at their lowest level of people might be the best bet. Once you start to thin them out, it might take the fight out of them.

#29688

Scented Nectar wrote: How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.

If you try to do that you'll soon find your name on several newspapers, where many articles will describe your actions as a "fascist/racist/xenophobic intimidation". The articles will compare your actions to the Kristallnacht or to KKK-inspired lynchings. You'll basically tattoo a swastika on your forehead, at least in the eyes of the heavily SJW-influenced media and the parts of the public which believe them and support them. People will start marches against you, boycott your business, send letters to your partners, try to get you arrested for being a Nazi (like what LW tried to do to TF) and for having destroyed property or having committed assault, theft, etc.

#29689

Or maybe start building a large heavy duty fence around the place. It just might freak them out.

#29690

Scented Nectar wrote:How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property.
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Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Tiny problems galore:
(1) There's 160 Roma, including women and children. Camp's never empty.
(2) They're Roma. They have knives. They're not going without putting up a fight- perhaps they'd respect a major police force yes, but not a thug club.
(3) Right now, besides Roma, there are the Usual Suspects of left-wing (autonomous) activists on the grounds.

In short, your bulldozer club will likely pull the shortest straw in the ensuing court case.

In Denmark, such camps are cleared quickly after they emerge, to prevent this sort of expansion and escalation.

#29691

deLurch wrote:Or maybe start building a large heavy duty fence around the place. It just might freak them out.

This guy is screwed. Wow.

I think I would make sure the place was totally packed with people. I would get as many in there as possible with no sanitation. Then I would go on the TV and cry about how you need help. That you are so sorry your neighbors have to suffer with this. Explain that you don't know what to do... all the while making sure all the neighbors get more and more sick of the trespassers. At some point someone will rescue the property for you... or at lease they will accept whatever harsh action you take to kick everyone out.

Side story. I worked with a pudgy little 60 year old white guy who was a total ass, but a good engineer. He wanted to grow his career so he took a job in India. He visited first, but didn't take his little wife till after he agreed to the job. I guess that when he got there he had squatters all over his property. He couldn't get rid of them. They were sleeping all over his property and he had to use the courts to evict them. His wife freaked out and left... just got to the airport and left. Anyway, he refused to go to India after his wife walked out. He got fired for wasting ten of thousands on his little career move. Those squatters are a bitch.... in America we just shoot people... haha.

#29692

By the way, I just read at Berlingske that Malmø Municipality even tried to contact the authorities in Romania for 'assistance', without explaining what assistance that was supposed to be.

Fat chance in a country where

wikipedia wrote:A survey of the Pro Democraţia association in Romania revealed that 94% of the questioned persons believe that the Romanian citizenship should be revoked to the ethnic Roms who commit crimes abroad.

They wouldn't piss on the Roma if they were on fire.

#29693

John D wrote:Side story. I worked with a pudgy little 60 year old white guy who was a total ass, but a good engineer. He wanted to grow his career so he took a job in India. He visited first, but didn't take his little wife till after he agreed to the job. I guess that when he got there he had squatters all over his property. He couldn't get rid of them. They were sleeping all over his property and he had to use the courts to evict them. His wife freaked out and left... just got to the airport and left. Anyway, he refused to go to India after his wife walked out. He got fired for wasting ten of thousands on his little career move. Those squatters are a bitch.... in America we just shoot people... haha.

An old coworker of mine absolutely hated India and refused to go there. Former military girl. She just kept on reiterating that India was dirty, filthy and disgusting. I suggested that perhaps the major cities are a bit better but she would have none of it. She hated the conditions of that country.

#29694

rayshul wrote:

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Bro did you just support cultural appropriation?

#29695

deLurch wrote:
John D wrote:Side story. I worked with a pudgy little 60 year old white guy who was a total ass, but a good engineer. He wanted to grow his career so he took a job in India. He visited first, but didn't take his little wife till after he agreed to the job. I guess that when he got there he had squatters all over his property. He couldn't get rid of them. They were sleeping all over his property and he had to use the courts to evict them. His wife freaked out and left... just got to the airport and left. Anyway, he refused to go to India after his wife walked out. He got fired for wasting ten of thousands on his little career move. Those squatters are a bitch.... in America we just shoot people... haha.
An old coworker of mine absolutely hated India and refused to go there. Former military girl. She just kept on reiterating that India was dirty, filthy and disgusting. I suggested that perhaps the major cities are a bit better but she would have none of it. She hated the conditions of that country.

India's like anywhere else - there's good and bad.

I feel that guy was stitched up a little bit, though. His employer should have had a liaison staff that look after the details in these matters, particularly the risk of squatters on a property.

#29696

Kirbmarc wrote: If you try to do that you'll soon find your name on several newspapers, where many articles will describe your actions as a "fascist/racist/xenophobic intimidation". The articles will compare your actions to the Kristallnacht or to KKK-inspired lynchings. You'll basically tattoo a swastika on your forehead, at least in the eyes of the heavily SJW-influenced media and the parts of the public which believe them and support them. People will start marches against you, boycott your business, send letters to your partners, try to get you arrested for being a Nazi (like what LW tried to do to TF) and for having destroyed property or having committed assault, theft, etc.

Bloody hell. Seriously, is it really this bad in Sweden? I see a lot of stuff about how uber-SJW Sweden has gone these days, and I can only wonder - why? The UK, for example, doesn't appear to be anywhere near as bad, though it does have its influential PC/SJW contingent - and in a sense this is understandable, given that there's plenty of harebrained locals who'll want to salve their 'white guilt' at Britain having been an imperial power. However, we do still have a largely right-wing press, and though I am no fan of the Murdoch press or the Daily Heil, it at least provides some counter-drivel to the SJW drivel, and prevents the SJW contingent from completely owning the narrative. But Sweden? Really, it seems like the whole country - or at least, the entirety of what comprises the media and ruling elite - just suddenly went full-on hork-horking SJW. What the fuck happened?

#29697

deLurch wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:That's horrible! Aren't there laws against break and enter, like when a burglar breaks into your home? The police don't only remove burglars who reveal their names, so couldn't burglary laws be used in the case of private homes? As soon as the owner starts living there again, even if for only one day, wouldn't that become a break-in situation instead of a squatting one?

How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.

Some people would consider strangers on their property day after day to be stalkers. Are there any laws that would allow police to remove stalkers from a person's place? I can't imagine that they would only remove ones who admitted their names. Some people would also fear physical violence, like rape, from guests who won't leave the premises. How about theft? Can't the police be called to remove trespassers who won't leave in when people are worried about their safety? Can the police be called when someone is urinating (and therefore also exposing themselves) on private property?

I'm usually against false accusations, but if these fuckers are even forcing people to let them stay in their private homes, then all bets are off. Call the police repeatedly. "I heard him say he was going to rape my wife/kid as soon as we move back in for the summer". Also, the couple has every right to fuck up those intruders' belongings. Dragging all unwanted items out of the occupied rooms, could easily be part of normal housekeeping.

These things might cost less than $43 926.75, especially if one has friends helping instead of hiring people. Perhaps a group of people, each of whom have intruders, can help each other out.
Did you see all of the caravans? The vast majority of your suggestions would end up in a gang of those people beating the ever loving shit out of you. Hiring someone else to do your dirty work for you? Unless you hire some thugs to beat the shit out of them, which would probably put your ass in jail, you are not going to be able to do any of those activities.

Excess noise would probably lead to annoying everyone else in the surrounding buildings. Not knowing the local laws in Sweden, I wouldn't know what you could or could not do. Could you video tape them threatening you and have the police act on that?

Maybe the best route would be to declare that land a parking lot, and charge 99 Krona /day to park there. And then start towing cars that have not caravans that have not paid. You would have to have a large number of heavy hitters there so that the gypsies do not attack you. And you could probably only tow unoccupied trailers so it would take a number of days. A surprise mass hit at their lowest level of people might be the best bet. Once you start to thin them out, it might take the fight out of them.

What about letting the police know that they are are worried that trespassers will be violent during the planned clean-up/towing-away of items (anything that people are not actually carrying with them). Request police presence.

Or maybe the owner should have some people with them. The video idea might prevent violence on it's own as long as it's not snatched - maybe a live upload thing would work and yell out "this is uploading live" so they don't snatch it thinking they can just erase it. If there is any violence though, there are witnesses, strength in numbers, and video. Maybe give everyone notice the day before that work will commence on the property tomorrow, eg clean up, fire hazard reduction, and/or garbage control (those tarps, shack extensions, etc, look like flammable garbage to me). That way they're given a fair chance to remove themselves from the private property.

If they don't have running water, toilets, or electricity, it's not fit for children to be raised in. I don't know whether Swedish authorities would agree with me though. I'd give them a day's notice that if they are still there by tomorrow, the child protection people will be called.

I like the parking charge idea. Also, maybe the police would act faster if someone is squatting in, and therefore disrupting, a place of business.

#29698

Tigzy wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: If you try to do that you'll soon find your name on several newspapers, where many articles will describe your actions as a "fascist/racist/xenophobic intimidation". The articles will compare your actions to the Kristallnacht or to KKK-inspired lynchings. You'll basically tattoo a swastika on your forehead, at least in the eyes of the heavily SJW-influenced media and the parts of the public which believe them and support them. People will start marches against you, boycott your business, send letters to your partners, try to get you arrested for being a Nazi (like what LW tried to do to TF) and for having destroyed property or having committed assault, theft, etc.
Bloody hell. Seriously, is it really this bad in Sweden? I see a lot of stuff about how uber-SJW Sweden has gone these days, and I can only wonder - why? The UK, for example, doesn't appear to be anywhere near as bad, though it does have its influential PC/SJW contingent - and in a sense this is understandable, given that there's plenty of harebrained locals who'll want to salve their 'white guilt' at Britain having been an imperial power. However, we do still have a largely right-wing press, and though I am no fan of the Murdoch press or the Daily Heil, it at least provides some counter-drivel to the SJW drivel, and prevents the SJW contingent from completely owning the narrative. But Sweden? Really, it seems like the whole country - or at least, the entirety of what comprises the media and ruling elite - just suddenly went full-on hork-horking SJW. What the fuck happened?

The shit hits the fan whenever the police try to clear out a homeless camp here in the US. The media is typically a tad more neutral. But they will readily air the side of the homeless advocates. Andy by homeless advocate, I mean people that will drive up to other cities and bus in homeless people because they feel our city doesn't have enough of them. I mean the people who encourage both the homeless and the scam artists to pan handle because they feel that it is a critical advertisement for their cause (despite there being plenty of food, clothing and shelter for any homeless who want it). Normally the city government back tracks, and wallows around to try and placate everyone. We eventually came up with a good system were we have people in yellow jackets that go up to any homeless identifying person to check and see if they have any needs and to direct them to any resources (food, clothing, shelter). To a degree it is like having reverse pan handlers being sent after the panhandlers. It has been rather successful in clearing them out. Nothing kills the begging scam like someone standing there offering everything you need except the cold hard cash, drugs or booze.

#29699

Kirbmarc wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property. And if no one who has a name is claiming ownership, that stuff is abandoned and now belongs to the owner. Perhaps one night can be dump-all-the-water-containers night. Next night can be remove-all-'abandoned'-clothing night, or food, or blankets and tarps, or whatever else will fuck up their living there. Wake everyone up and don't let anyone sleep, going inside caravan after caravan. Nothing loud enough to disturb anyone on nearby properties.

Bring shovels. Put shovelfuls of the intruders' own shit and piss all over their caravan floors and kitchens. It's on the owner's property and the owner can claim they own those caravans since no one who admits to having a name is making any official claim to own them. If anyone complains, the owner simply says that they can do what they like with the caravan since they now own it - some nameless stranger has abandoned it on their property. If the intruders are stupid enough to prove ownership, they've provided their name and can then be evicted.

Can tow trucks be called to remove vehicles that are parked on private property? As soon as the first few are taken, the others might quickly leave.

Take buckets of water into the caravans while most people are sleeping. It's good safety after all, since the whole place is a fire hazard. Until it's all carted off, it's for the best to make sure all flammable items are kept moist to prevent fires. Dump the buckets onto the mattresses. If people are sleeping on those fire hazards, the owner is doing them a favour by keeping them safe from fire. Don't do this to any, sick people, children, or animals, of course.

Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.

Drag items around making piles of stuff mixed up from all the caravans so each intruder's stuff is mixed up with everyone else's. It all belongs to the property owner now.
If you try to do that you'll soon find your name on several newspapers, where many articles will describe your actions as a "fascist/racist/xenophobic intimidation". The articles will compare your actions to the Kristallnacht or to KKK-inspired lynchings. You'll basically tattoo a swastika on your forehead, at least in the eyes of the heavily SJW-influenced media and the parts of the public which believe them and support them. People will start marches against you, boycott your business, send letters to your partners, try to get you arrested for being a Nazi (like what LW tried to do to TF) and for having destroyed property or having committed assault, theft, etc.

Well, the gov't pays for immigrant centers and resources, right? How about sending the gov't a huge bill for the rental of the land? Do interviews chiding the gov't for not providing rental income to these good new citizens who are simply looking for a fresh start in a kind, welcoming country. Start a lawsuit and let others know that they too might be owed money by the gov't immigration dept. I don't know if the above fits with Swedish law though. I don't know what that dept is or isn't supposed to provide.

I'd just do what I legally and safely could, under the category of "it's my property - I can do what I like with stuff found on it", and without giving a shit about sjw's. Mind you, that would be assuming they couldn't fuck with my job etc. SJWs are dishonest and malicious. Can't trust them to do anything in an ethical manner.

#29700

feathers wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:How about if a parking lot owner considers those caravans, sofas, stoves, etc, to be garbage that has been abandoned on their property. Are people allowed to destroy items left on land they own? Perhaps take an axe to everything? Hire a bulldozer to shove everything (including caravans, garbage, everything but the people themselves) into a huge pile under the reason of preparing it all for clean up?

Or, how about the owner gets together a group of friends or some temporarily hired workers. The owner has a right to go wherever they like on their own property, so enter caravans and take items, wake people up, smash shit, etc, without hurting any people. It's all stuff that is on the owner's property.
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Have a small gang of friends ready at hand to tip every caravan they can. Only when they are empty though, so no one gets injured.
Tiny problems galore:
(1) There's 160 Roma, including women and children. Camp's never empty.
(2) They're Roma. They have knives. They're not going without putting up a fight- perhaps they'd respect a major police force yes, but not a thug club.
(3) Right now, besides Roma, there are the Usual Suspects of left-wing (autonomous) activists on the grounds.

In short, your bulldozer club will likely pull the shortest straw in the ensuing court case.

In Denmark, such camps are cleared quickly after they emerge, to prevent this sort of expansion and escalation.

There's the whole problem. Sweden is refusing to clear it quickly at the start of the problem. It's a preventable problem. Denmark sounds much more sane.