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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by HoneyWagon » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:03 am

I am fine with keeping the time or moving it a few hours.
But if all goes well, this can be semi regular when enough people request it/a person wants to organise it, and the time period can change each time

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Keating » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:04 am

dog puke wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:

:twatson: Ape... you magnificent denizen of the slyme - I award you an honourary dogship. :twatson:
Indeed, this is one of your best. Had me smiling almost as much as this.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Keating » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:05 am

Brive1987 wrote:Id keep it at the original time. FUD will kill all hope.
6pm on Sunday would be fine with me.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Bourne Skeptic » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:08 am

rayshul wrote:I can listen but I'll be on mute, multichildren issues from 8am-8pm everyday.
The Pit before progeny. :naughty:

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Bourne Skeptic » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:13 am

Keating wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Today is the last day for input for the upcoming hang out that is happening on Saturday. So far this is what we have:

Saturday 20th 2pm Eastern Time (US) using google hangouts.
I'm not waking up at 6am on a Sunday for anything.

https://assets.rbl.ms/2549744/980x.jpg

Anything?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by jugheadnaut » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:16 am

John D wrote: I am "friends" with the Melanie in this exchange. She is actually generally pretty cool. I wrote a personal story that she included in her book about atheism. I think her problem stems from feeling she has to defend the name of "feminism". She is a Woman's Studies prof so she teaches a pile of crap... no doubt. But, her and I always have good constructive discussions. I think she must be conflicted between the "religion" she teaches and the truth. She lashes out with "marginalized half the world" comments because she can't square the circle of her philosophy. She has to double down. Too bad.... because she really is a pretty decent person in my opinion.

It does remind me of my Christian family... most of whom are really fine people.... but... if you poke at the wrong part of their philosophy (the parts that are clearly hypocritical) they come a bit unglued.
By coincidence, I happened to come across the following dialogue with Melanie Brewster recorded just before the news of Dawkins' stroke and the NECSS apology. She's publicizing the book John D mentioned. She seems to have a pleasant personality, but from this it's clear she's either deeply ignorant or deeply duplicitous about the rifts in the 'atheist community'. Given that she's edited a book called 'Atheists in America', it may be more charitable to assume the latter.

http://meaningoflife.tv/videos/33723?in=37:46&out=43:20

- She explains that the primary anti-SJW atheist criticism of feminism is to contrast their issues with those faced by Muslim women. That's right, it's Dear Muslima all the way down. Stuff like challenging dogma on patriarchy, rape culture, lived experience, 'shut up and listen', 'believe the women', the pay gap? Nah, never hear of that.

- Her interlocutor, Robert Wright, gives an incompetent rendering of Elevatorgate wherein Dawkins is responding directly to RW's initial video, not the subsequent events. Brewster doesn't correct him, but then again that's likely her preferred narrative. One good thing: Rebecca Watson's name isn't mentioned. She really has become a nobody :twatson:

- She represents the primary issue anti-SJW atheists have with SJW campus activism is they don't like any criticism of freedom of action/speech. She and Wright recount the Yale crapfest as being all about criticism of the initial memo reminding students to be mindful of their Halloween costumes. The "who the fuck hired you" shrieking girl that thought the memo was a social justice dictate that was above even the mildest criticism? Nah, not worth mentioning. Brewster wants you to believe this conflict, and other similar campus SJW conflicts, are over the right of activists to make social justice-based criticisms, not their authoritarianism in cutting off debate and forcibly requiring their criticisms be respected and resolved.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Skep tickle » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:21 am

[youtube]jeJHrIqWsNw[/youtube]

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by AndrewV69 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:24 am

Skep tickle wrote:Now here's a mess of a situation: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... acy.3.html

A little something for almost everyone - bodily autonomy, women's rights & roles (defended by a pro-life lawyer), men's rights, disability rights, parental rights, gender selection, baby selling, money, business, & contract law.
I remember reading about it earlier and yes, It is a mess.

I mentioned this story to one of my kids the other day: Single man wanted a child, hired a surrogate, had a baby and recommended he consider this an option rather than get married.

Different advise than what I gave to a niece the other day of course. She is not that impressed with many of the boys she meets (ex-Amish or ex-Mennonite ... breakaway might be more appropriate than ex as a description actually) as she considers them way too docile.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Keating » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:28 am

Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Keating wrote:I'm not waking up at 6am on a Sunday for anything.
https://assets.rbl.ms/2549744/980x.jpg

Anything?
Nup.

In that case I wouldn't have gone to sleep the night before.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by AndrewV69 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:37 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:The Roosh V presser I was referring to:
[youtube]CD6ajfna7tE[/youtube]
am I the only one that found his body language kind of weird?
Can you expand more on that (with timestamps)? I am interested in your observations.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:59 am

Benson has a post up targetting our own Hermann Steinpilz.

http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/201 ... can-women/

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:00 am

Archive of Ophie's article.

Apologies: http://archive.is/wYB3a

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by feathers » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:04 am

Badger3k wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Sulman wrote:Something a bit different. A young lad doing an urbex of an empty mall in Southampton, UK.

[.youtube]7z2zExfzZCE[/youtube]

I used to have coffee in there almost every day, a few years back. How quickly decay sets in.
Cool video, and quite the athletic and intrepid dude.

Alan Weisman wrote a book called The World Without Us, which is basically a thought experiment in which the human species disappears overnight (not raptured or anything like that). He then describes how plants, fungi, and animals invade homes, buildings, roads, etc., and how long it takes for everything to fall apart and decay.
There have been a few tv shows/series about this (maybe with the same name?). The few I've seen were quite interesting.
But don't worry, there will be dioxins and DDT for quite some time to come. As well as PVC, PE etc. as long as they're covered from the sun.

Alien probes may also note there's refined oil all over the damn planet.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by jugheadnaut » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:19 am

Brive1987 wrote:Archive of Ophie's article.

Apologies: http://archive.is/wYB3a
With Melanie Brewster, I went with 'duplicitous'. With The Oaf, I'm going with 'ignorant'.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by AndrewV69 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:44 am

Keating wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Today is the last day for input for the upcoming hang out that is happening on Saturday. So far this is what we have:

Saturday 20th 2pm Eastern Time (US) using google hangouts.
I'm not waking up at 6am on a Sunday for anything.
I am retired. Lately I have noticed I do not even wake up much before 11:00 AM. unless it is sunny outside.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by AndrewV69 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:50 am

Keating wrote:
Indeed, this is one of your best. Had me smiling almost as much as this.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by gurugeorge » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:16 am

Kirbmarc wrote:Communists in general have often been queasy about the theory of evolution by natural selection. It's likely a reaction to the Social Darwinism promoted by the extreme right (which is pretty stupid in its own way).
Well, isn't it also because the implications of natural selection are often that man isn't as malleable by social circumstances as they think?

This goes counter to the logic of ideological theories, which posit that human behaviour is wholly determined by group membership of the oppressor/oppressed class.

That's always how it works:-

1) abstract source of "power" (means of production; patriarchy)
2) oppressor/oppressed groups defined by their closeness to or distance from "power" (bourgeois/proles; male/female)
3) human behavior wholly determined by group membership (base determines superstructure; patriarchy creates "rape culture")

If some behaviour isn't wholly determined by group membership, if nature plays a strong role as well as nurture, and even plays the major role with some traits, then the theory is fucked, and the revolution is rendered somewhat pointless, because Utopia will be unattainable by merely altering social conditioning and social roles, because any attempt to alter social conditioning and social roles will bump up against underlying genetic predispositions. So they have to obfuscate.

I guess if they're also scientific-minded and can't quite get rid of the niggling science, they'll be predisposed to look for things that seem like they might go against the synthesis. Even if they don't really (like the concept of punctuated equilibrium) they're at least doing their ideological duty by casting doubt, cognitive dissonance be damned.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by gurugeorge » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:20 am

VickyCaramel wrote:I'll just leave this here:-

Atheism is not a modern invention from the western Enlightenment, but actually dates back to the ancient world, according to a new book by a Cambridge academic – which challenges the assumption that humanity is naturally predisposed to believe in gods.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/f ... -new-study
There's also the ancient Carvaka school of thought in the Indian subcontinent, about as old as Buddhism text-wise.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Sunder » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:24 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:I find it interesting that so many of the "extended synthesis" devotees also happen to be SJWs and Gould groupies. PZ is one. Their sociopolitical belief system seems to instill in them an aversion to certain hard truths about evolution, & so they largely reject natural selection. The Die, Selfish Gene Die fracas was instigated by SJWs.
I read Andreas Wagner's "Arrival of the Fittest" and found it rather compelling and not particularly SJW-y or anti-natural selection.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:26 am

Looks like Shermer has been up to his old tricks.

http://i.imgur.com/zasU8il.jpg

There was a time when SJWs would dox and blight you over an internet medical diagnoses. Now they shamelessly pimp for them.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Sunder » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:33 am

99% sure it's a bite. A lot of blood vessels close to the skin in that area. Ankles a big target for mosquitoes if you ever go barefoot. I would've assumed it's because the skin's kinda thin so the blood vessels are close to the surface, but a quick Googling claims it's because they follow the scent trail toward the feet.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Sunder » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:35 am

Dammit, I left that redundant sentence in after I was ready to change it post-Googling.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:46 am

A bite? Shermer you cad.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by fafnir » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:18 am

gurugeorge wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:If some behaviour isn't wholly determined by group membership, if nature plays a strong role as well as nurture, and even plays the major role with some traits, then the theory is fucked, and the revolution is rendered somewhat pointless, because Utopia will be unattainable by merely altering social conditioning and social roles, because any attempt to alter social conditioning and social roles will bump up against underlying genetic predispositions.
That's what the internment camps are for.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by feathers » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:38 am

Really? wrote:Sperm is extremely easy to come by.
Hey, speak for yourself, lecherous young stallion!


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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by franc » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:06 am

Twitter's New Order, new observation, verified by moi -

If you tweet @twitter or @support, it acts as shadowban. Tweet won't appear in timelines of followers.

The more you dig, the worse it gets.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:14 am

comhcinc wrote:

How can it be a great movie with such an obvious Mary Sue? I mean Ryan Reynolds is a producer on the film and had input in writing the story for the movie. He literal made a movie about himself being the coolest thing ever that creates a happy ending for a character even though it's completely again the core story.


:popcorn:
Thing is, Reynolds is as close as someone can be IRL to Wade Wilson. Even before there were talks about him someday portraying Deadpool, he was the one I found most fitting because of his Hannibal King performance in Blade: Trinity.

I also must admit I have a serious man-crush on Ryan Reynolds. I'd do him without hesitations.

Chimichanga!

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Shatterface » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:40 am

SJW opposition to evo-psych is based on quasi-religious notions of human exceptionalism.

They reject the fact that humans are just another type of animal.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:41 am

John D wrote:Damn... I had to layoff someone today. He was a really nice guy and his heart was always in the right place. He just didn't have the chops and communication skill to fit the work we do. We gave him a severance package which we didn't have to do... so I feel good about that at least. Terminating people sucks! I haven't slept well in days.
Oh dude, that sucks. And it's never easy.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:43 am

comhcinc wrote:Today is the last day for input for the upcoming hang out that is happening on Saturday. So far this is what we have:

Saturday 20th 2pm Eastern Time (US) using google hangouts.

I will make the final set in stone tonight.

Remember all regular members are invited but I will not be recording this for the public.

So be there and

https://media.giphy.com/media/gawAL8Xum5U3K/giphy.gif
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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:44 am

Guest_ef741fbf wrote:I can't login, "The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found." Feck it. Anyway I'm Charles MacGruder.

I'm here to report that Dawkins has ripped Ophelia a new one for claiming he was saying the exact opposite of what he was saying:

Can't post links, but it's at: necss-executive-committee-statement-richards-response/
I have replied to Ophelia Benson here
butterfliesandwheels 2016/whats-that-oh-its-the-underside-of-the-bus/
as follows:-

Ophelia is apparently so eager to revel in the victim’s-eye-view of the underside of the bus, she overlooked the fact that I actually said the exact OPPOSITE of what she so spitefully alleges. I said it MIGHT have seemed easy to claim that my stroke was caused by the stress of being disinvited by NECSS. But I went on explicitly to rule that out because the stroke came AFTER the joyful news that NECSS had decided to re-invite me. And that, by the way, also rules out the equally spiteful suggestion, by one of the commenters on this site, that the NECSS change of mind was a cowardly response to my stroke. To repeat, for the benefit of those who seem to have difficulty understanding plain English, the wonderful (and stress-REDUCING) news of NECSS’s courageous change of mind arrived, and greatly cheered me up, BEFORE my stroke.

And I most certainly do not “jeer at feminism”. I remain a passionate feminist who looks at the world beyond America and clearly sees that by far the majority of misogynistic atrocities are committed in the name of Islam.

I await Ophelia’s apology and thank her in advance for it.

Richard
Don't hold one's breath.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by screwtape » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:45 am

Brive1987 wrote:Looks like Shermer has been up to his old tricks.

http://i.imgur.com/zasU8il.jpg

There was a time when SJWs would dox and blight you over an internet medical diagnoses. Now they shamelessly pimp for them.
I thought it was Thunderfoot who went around biting women's legs?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:55 am

comhcinc wrote:
x_?_x wrote: How could a humble tweeter prove such a thing is true?

How could 'we' - the uninvolved masses, in essence - prove that twitter was engaged in a soft-censorship campaign?

Rather than debating a lack of evidence, I'd rather try to figure out a methodology that could demonstrate 'censorship,' or a lack thereof.

Are you claiming that these claims are unfalsifiable?
Well, first you have to show that Twitter is always, or even close to always reliable in message delivery. Good luck on that. Then you have to show that your own connection is also reliable or nearly always reliable. If it's a cell network, nope, not even close.

So there's two problems with proving this: a regularly non-reliable service and the majority of connections are made via a network that regularly doesn't deliver messages.

Again, I agree with comhcinc here: it's not impossible or even really unlikely, but more proof is needed. Also, Twitter some time ago said they were thinking of being more restrictive in terms of porn. Carrera complained about that one quite a bit.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Scented Nectar » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:56 am

Sunder wrote:99% sure it's a bite. A lot of blood vessels close to the skin in that area. Ankles a big target for mosquitoes if you ever go barefoot. I would've assumed it's because the skin's kinda thin so the blood vessels are close to the surface, but a quick Googling claims it's because they follow the scent trail toward the feet.
Last summer, when I found my ex-roommate dead, the smell was just like Breaking Bad described. An even stronger version of the foot odour that some people get, and which can fill a room instantly when they remove their shoes. I always thought that it would be more like the nasty pickled smell that dead mice have when they die behind a kitchen drawer, but nope. It was just like feet. Bad feet.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:59 am

d4m10n wrote:
Bourne Skeptic wrote:Here's a link to the Milo, Christina Hoff Sommers speech at University of Minnesota.
Good show. Thanks for the link.

Sort of surprised the usual suspects didn't show up to protest. :bjarte:
Are you really surprised they didn't show up in person?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by feathers » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:00 am

Gumby wrote:Patri-Archie was so prescient.

http://56.media.tumblr.com/ad43d6c28412 ... 1_1280.png
Third time I see this, but first time I notice the name of the Gym: GYMBLR :P

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by welch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:00 am

d4m10n wrote:
d4m10n wrote:
Bourne Skeptic wrote:Here's a link to the Milo, Christina Hoff Sommers speech at University of Minnesota.
Good show. Thanks for the link.

Sort of surprised the usual suspects didn't show up to protest. :bjarte:
Spoke too soon...
Fuck that, given it's Zvan, pics or it didn't happen.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by JackSkeptic » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:28 am

OK guys I'm useless so please help me out:

1.What time is the SP hangout?

2.Who do I contact to get the link/confirm I will try and join?

3.What programme is being used, Google, Skype?

4. Why am I so dense?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by VickyCaramel » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:36 am

gurugeorge wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:I'll just leave this here:-

Atheism is not a modern invention from the western Enlightenment, but actually dates back to the ancient world, according to a new book by a Cambridge academic – which challenges the assumption that humanity is naturally predisposed to believe in gods.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/f ... -new-study
There's also the ancient Carvaka school of thought in the Indian subcontinent, about as old as Buddhism text-wise.
Somebody once said, that if you go around Denmark asking people if they believe in god, many will say "I don't know, I never really thought about it".

I can't think of any example off the top of my head, but my limited reading of ancient and medieval texts gave me the impression that the great unwashed knew very little about the gods and probably didn't have much time to ponder it.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Tigzy » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:43 am

I just happened to be playing John Murphy's Adagio in D Minor when I saw this GIF. It actually goes quite fantastically well with it. Try it.

[youtube]NQXVzg2PiZw[/youtube]

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:49 am

Ericb wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Melissa McEwen is upset(of course she is-it's a day that ends in a "y")because China relocated 9,000 people in order to build a giant radio telescope. She adds:
Note that it's never, ever, white people who are displaced for the purposes of giant telescopes.
Apparently China should be building its telescopes in Grosse Pointe, Michigan.
I'm sure that if the Chinese government had had a choice between displacing Han Chinese or Western barbarians for their telescope they would have chosen the latter in a heartbeat.
You're not familiar with the Chinese government, are you?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by MarcusAu » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:59 am

VickyCaramel wrote:
Somebody once said, that if you go around Denmark asking people if they believe in god, many will say "I don't know, I never really thought about it".

I can't think of any example off the top of my head, but my limited reading of ancient and medieval texts gave me the impression that the great unwashed knew very little about the gods and probably didn't have much time to ponder it.
I could see the reverse - ie people being more religious in societies with greater instability.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by JackSkeptic » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:04 am

VickyCaramel wrote:
gurugeorge wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:I'll just leave this here:-

Atheism is not a modern invention from the western Enlightenment, but actually dates back to the ancient world, according to a new book by a Cambridge academic – which challenges the assumption that humanity is naturally predisposed to believe in gods.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/f ... -new-study
There's also the ancient Carvaka school of thought in the Indian subcontinent, about as old as Buddhism text-wise.
Somebody once said, that if you go around Denmark asking people if they believe in god, many will say "I don't know, I never really thought about it".

I can't think of any example off the top of my head, but my limited reading of ancient and medieval texts gave me the impression that the great unwashed knew very little about the gods and probably didn't have much time to ponder it.
That's why I find Myers assertion that you have to actively disbelieve a god using reason and logic, ergo regressivism, so US centric and parochial. He really is an intellectual light weight. If it weren't for his position no one would take a blind bit of notice of him.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by feathers » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:05 am

rayshul wrote:I can listen but I'll be on mute, multichildren issues from 8am-8pm everyday.
Gone full Creation Movement now?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Billy The Hillbilly » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:51 am

lame

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:54 am

comhcinc wrote:

For those of you that don't read every post.
That would be 20:00 CET, which is 19:00 UTC

Count me in. I'll PM you.

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Post by comhcinc » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:07 am

JackSkeptic wrote:1.What time is the SP hangout?
It's 2pm US Eastern Standard Time Saturday Feb 20th

JackSkeptic wrote:2.Who do I contact to get the link/confirm I will try and join?
That would be me. I will be contacting people throughout the day for contact information
JackSkeptic wrote:3.What programme is being used, Google, Skype?
Google hangouts
JackSkeptic wrote:4. Why am I so dense?
You're Irish?


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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by NoGodsEver » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:15 am

Why is the bad Jewish man being mean to Conan O'Brien?

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Post by comhcinc » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:23 am

To make this easy if you want to be in the hangout add me on (yes yes I know) Google+ https://plus.google.com/+StanBrooks

There are two ways to do a hangout. "Hangouts on Air" is what people like Sargon do. That's the one with link and the streaming and saving to youtube. And then there is just the normal Hangouts which is what I am doing. That requires that I have your contact information.

If people are just absolutely against me having your gmail address or Google+ account I can "Hangouts on Air".

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Post by comhcinc » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:26 am

I feel sorry for Billy. First he came here trying to be cute it went over so bad that lots of people blocked him. He then dropped the shtick and attempted to actually converse but it was too late and no one gave a fuck. Now he is jut trying to get banned.

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Post by CommanderTuvok » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:39 am

The NUS (in this case the a branch of the Black NUS) are going after Nick Lowles, a HOPE NOT HATE activist, on the basis he is "Islamophobic". Islamophobic in this case appaear to mean criticising Islamists, and grooming. I guess the Black NUS group are defending child rape, then.

What did I tell yer? Islam is one of the DIVIDE AND CONQUER issues that we can tear these fuckers apart with.

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Post by Billy The Hillbilly » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:52 am

I'll have you know that Billy is a character that is as old as the Slymepit itself. Billy was removed from twitter after sending obscene messages to Kanye West and Donald Trump, among others. :D :D :D

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Post by MarcusAu » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:52 am

comhcinc wrote:I feel sorry for Billy. First he came here trying to be cute it went over so bad that lots of people blocked him. He then dropped the shtick and attempted to actually converse but it was too late and no one gave a fuck. Now he is jut trying to get banned.
That's like feeling sympathy for anal warts.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Post by Gumby » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:03 am

Billy The Hillbilly wrote:I'll have you know that Billy is a character that is as old as the Slymepit itself. Billy was removed from twitter after sending obscene messages to Kanye West and Donald Trump, among others. :D :D :D
So fucking what?

Why can't you just make an effort to not be a fucking idiot here? Honestly it's not easy to fail at Slymepit, but you fail harder at it - from your very first day until now - than just about anybody in pit history. Is it because you're just a dumbfuck troll, or is it because you have absolutely no idea how to act on the internet?

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Post by Billy The Hillbilly » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:05 am

NoGodsEver wrote:Why is the bad Jewish man being mean to Conan O'Brien?
He tried to steal Conan's money; he tried to send Conan off to die in a Middle East war that only benefits Israel; he wanted to build a fake gas chamber on Conan's front lawn. All of these things he wanted to do, but Conan stood up to him.

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Post by Billy The Hillbilly » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:08 am

Gumby wrote:
Billy The Hillbilly wrote:I'll have you know that Billy is a character that is as old as the Slymepit itself. Billy was removed from twitter after sending obscene messages to Kanye West and Donald Trump, among others. :D :D :D
So fucking what?

Why can't you just make an effort to not be a fucking idiot here? Honestly it's not easy to fail at Slymepit, but you fail harder at it - from your very first day until now - than just about anybody in pit history. Is it because you're just a dumbfuck troll, or is it because you have absolutely no idea how to act on the internet?

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Post by Søren Lilholt » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:13 am

AndrewV69 wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: Not as advanced on evolution as some of you guys, but what is the latest consensus on the Dawkins vs. Gould view? Does one have a stronger case, or are both views compatible, and the "feud" completely overblown?
Gould is a fraud. A peddler of beautiful bullshit. That is all you need to know really.

Personally, I became aware that Gould was a lying fucktard back in the day. It was a long time ago and I do not remember the details but it was around the time that The September That Never Ended, within a decade or so at any rate.

There was an article in NY Times? The Atlantic? and some back and forth between Gould and the author of the article. It was clear then that Gould was full of bullshit from his responses.

Anyway, I digress. There are lots of articles all over the place that trash Gould. Here is one Beware of Stephen J. Gould.
But Gould's actual conduct was much stranger. He wrote as if the entire Williams revolution had never occurred! Gould attacked, as if they were still current views, romantic notions that no serious biologist had put forth since the 1960s. Then Gould presented his own counterarguments to these no-longer-advocated views, and they were bizarre. Evolution is a random walk in complexity, with a minimum at zero complexity and no upper bound? But there is an upper bound! Sheer chance explains why dogs are more complex than dinosaurs? But they probably aren't!

Why did Gould behave thus? Two observations: One, to bring order to a scientific field, it must first be in chaos. Two, plagiarism is a crime that everyone understands.
Follow the link to read the rest shitlord.
My perception of Gould is that he was an over-achiever in his field - an averagely bright bloke who wrote well about natural history, but who perhaps didn't have the intellectual chops to really understand evolution at a theoretical level. It's not that he deliberately or fraudulently misrepresented the modern synthesis, more that he just didn't get it, or didn't care to. I could be wrong, but I get the impression there was some mild Dunning-Kruger at play. (Not at Carrierian levels mind - It's A Wonderful Life is a lovely book, for example.)

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Post by Gumby » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:14 am

:lol:

OK, just a dumbfuck troll. Noted.

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