The Refuge of the Toads

#6301

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Between PETA and ALF they really pulled some stupid stunts:
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/minks.asp

Got into a 3 day argument some years back with a PETA supporter over owning dogs. At the time PETA wanted dog breeding outlawed
and wanted people to only get dogs that had been spayed from the SPCA (or animal shelters I'm assuming) I told the person this was PETA's weasely backhanded way of outlawing dog ownership, since there would be no dogs to own in a generation. Could not make the person connect the dots. Just a good little PETA drone like most of them.

#6302

OK, downloaded Moon, will watch tonight. If I don't like it I will demand my bandwidth back in full.

#6303

jimthepleb wrote:
Spike13 wrote:Thanks guys. That was actually interesting.( no worries Jim!)

One more thing, what was with the antibiotics in the tank? Would it render the cows unfit for use?

If so, what do they think would have happened to the animals?

Any hoo, thanks we haven't had cows in my neck of the woods for a hundred years.
If there are antibiotics in the tank the milk is poured down the drain as it can't go into the food chain. If it gets onto the tanker and into the bulk tank at the dairy company it would contaminate 50,000 litres and the farmer is liable. It's straightforward sabotage. As a dairyman a great deal of my time is spent ensuring the quality and cleanliness of the milk I produce. PETA and their equivalents spread an enormous amount of disinformation about antibiotics/mastitis and 'pus' in milk. To say nothing of the lies about welfare.

I've picked up quite a few dairies since I got the whole milk hauler gig. The cleanliness of the dairies I've picked up has varied wildly. The worst one has the rubber gaskets on the tank lids removed so legions of flies & other bugs can get in to drown & cowshit is always smeared all over the hoses. I had one load I picked up elsewhere rejected (ended up at a calf farm) after a mouse that must've gotten into an unsealed hose was found in pieces in the mousecatcher in my pumping gear. I've seen a few loads rejected at the plant for antibiotics or blood, too. You guys have a tough job keeping that stuff clean for the rest of us.

#6304

PZ retcons Watson hatred of Dawkins:

And then, of course, it’s all Rebecca Watson’s fault, because she hates Richard Dawkins and evolutionary psychology. I’ve known Watson for a few years, and again, this was not a prior bias. This was a gradual and strengthening rejection of what they stand for, built on experience and evidence. When you’ve been blacklisted by Dawkins, I think it’s only rational to oppose him. As for Watson and evolutionary psychology…

Don't know and couldn't give a shit about her evo psych.

But re Dawkins:

She was a fan girl on June 04 2011.
He Muslima'ed her on July 02 2011. But not by name.
She immediately responded by boycotting him in full snark mode on July 05 2011.
He counter boycotted her at Reason Rally promo prep in September 2011.

"Gradual and strengthening" my ass. Fucking liar.

More like "full on and continuously sustained"

#6305

Brive1987 wrote:PZ retcons Watson hatred of Dawkins:

And then, of course, it’s all Rebecca Watson’s fault, because she hates Richard Dawkins and evolutionary psychology. I’ve known Watson for a few years, and again, this was not a prior bias. This was a gradual and strengthening rejection of what they stand for, built on experience and evidence. When you’ve been blacklisted by Dawkins, I think it’s only rational to oppose him. As for Watson and evolutionary psychology…
Don't know and couldn't give a shit about her evo psych.

But re Dawkins:

She was a fan girl on June 04 2011.
He Muslima'ed her on July 02 2011. But not by name.
She immediately responded by boycotting him in full snark mode on July 05 2011.
He counter boycotted her at Reason Rally promo prep in September 2011.

"Gradual and strengthening" my ass. Fucking liar.

More like "full on and continuously sustained"

Reality doesn't support their needs, therefore it must be disposed of.

#6306

Brive1987 wrote:PZ retcons Watson hatred of Dawkins:

And then, of course, it’s all Rebecca Watson’s fault, because she hates Richard Dawkins and evolutionary psychology. I’ve known Watson for a few years, and again, this was not a prior bias. This was a gradual and strengthening rejection of what they stand for, built on experience and evidence. When you’ve been blacklisted by Dawkins, I think it’s only rational to oppose him. As for Watson and evolutionary psychology…
Don't know and couldn't give a shit about her evo psych.

But re Dawkins:

She was a fan girl on June 04 2011.
He Muslima'ed her on July 02 2011. But not by name.
She immediately responded by boycotting him in full snark mode on July 05 2011.
He counter boycotted her at Reason Rally promo prep in September 2011.

"Gradual and strengthening" my ass. Fucking liar.

More like "full on and continuously sustained"

Is their version of the truth really so plastic and malleable or do they know they're lying and justify it by their version of the greater good? I really would like to know.

#6307

PZ's white knighting of Watson and, fuck me, defense of Massimo (because of his Dawkins hate) here.

Apparently Jamy Ian Swiss is also coping 100% of the blame for the dis-dis-invitation. On the basis that Dawkins addressed him when declining to participate in the rescheduled pogrom.

http://archive.is/NhUDZ

#6308

Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach

#6309

What? Nobody's talking about Ke$ha and the hordes of proto-SJWs on Twitter believing every word she says? I come here for the antidote and you've got nothing?

#6310

Brive1987 wrote:PZ's white knighting of Watson and, fuck me, defense of Massimo (because of his Dawkins hate) here.

Apparently Jamy Ian Swiss is also coping 100% of the blame for the dis-dis-invitation. On the basis that Dawkins addressed him when declining to participate in the rescheduled pogrom.

http://archive.is/NhUDZ

The dildo in comment 4 claims that a reliable source told xir that Swiss called Becky a cunt onstage at some con, but offers zero evidence.

This is FTB skepticism.

#6311

Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach

That was awful. If they are going to do a parody account, they could at least try to make it humourous or vaguely witty. 1/10, please leave this to someone with an IQ over 75 next time.

#6312

PZ goes on:

You might want to read Siouxsie Wiles, a fellow Kiwi, rather than Perrot. She points out the real problem with the attitudes that too many skeptics and atheists have:

(Quoting Wiles) "Watson and Roth continue to be active in the atheist/skeptic community but many others have left because of the treatment they have received. It saddens me that Dawkins either doesn’t appear to understand the impact of his actions, or doesn’t care, and neither do his supporters. Perrott ends his post by implying that Watson and others are bullying extremists who bandy around words like “sexist” and “misogynist” to shut down important discussion. I disagree. They are valuable members of the atheist/skeptic community ....."

Emphasis added.

I'm going to go with sick and deluded over lying.

#6313

HunnyBunny wrote:
Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach
That was awful. If they are going to do a parody account, they could at least try to make it humourous or vaguely witty. 1/10, please leave this to someone with an IQ over 75 next time.

Yea, it just reeks of desperation. I don't know why but I'm envisioning this Rowe (dude ?) banging out entries to this account between bouts of smashing things in his ( hers? ) bedroom.

#6314

Welchy said:

That was the one thing I liked about "The Boys from Brazil"....

That movie, Boys From Brazil, is one of the few, "classic" movies or, at least, movies starring classic actors, that I have not seen.

Should I try to track it down and filch a DVD of it?

#6315

Oggy is back in the comments section. His avatar is a steam train and he describes himself as:

Brother Ogvorbis, Fully Defenestrated Emperor of Steam, Fire and Absurdity

He must have run out of his pills. At least he has his AARP card.

#6316

Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach

Pathetic, akin to a twelve year old throwing a tantrum.

At least try to be witty.

#6317

Which places his recovered rape experience to 38 years ago.

#6318

Brive1987 wrote:Which places his recovered rape experience to 38 years ago.

Well, according to " his" truth.

Other truths may say otherwise

#6319

I've decided, I want to make that "her" truth a thing.

Perhaps that's how these slack fuckers sleep at night.

That Becky had a long and steady disenchantment with RD is " their" truth.

I've worked with her for a few years ( his truth)

I've worshiped and dreamt of being her unworthy toilet slave for the better part of almost a decade( truth truth)

See how that works.

#6320

#6321

So Bellator 149 is happening right now. Kimbo Slice vis Dada 5000 just ended. I pee'd myself laughing so hard.

#6322

I am increasingly convinced that the SJ mindset constantly reshapes the past as a reflection of current feelz.

Becky felt during her posthoc video that the lift "incident" was creepy and scary. At the time no doubt she simply rolled her eyes. But so it became.

Alison decided that her drunk, allegedly enthusiastic coupling with Shermer was raep. As so it became.

Stollznow felt that after a professional tiff, her complex relationship with Radford was best interpreted as simple sustained abuse. And presto.

Here the feelz are positive - RW tried but failed to see the non existent good in Dawkins. Over many years. Because she is a good person and that's what a good person would do. And zing. A turkey materialises.

That's why facts matter. Even boring prosaic timelines.

#6323

It's was a TKO by fatness!

:laughing-rollingyellow: :laughing-rollingred: :happy-jumpeveryone:

#6324

Such sister punishing

#6325

UB :nin:

#6326

Spike13 wrote:
Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach

Pathetic, akin to a twelve year old throwing a tantrum.

At least try to be witty.

The account is retwatting Aoife O'Riordan.

#6327

There are only four followers of that account and one of them is Aidan Rowe.

Somehow he/she/it hasn't thrown a hissy fit about the account-holder joking about baptism causing autism.

#6328

Shatterface wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach

Pathetic, akin to a twelve year old throwing a tantrum.

At least try to be witty.
The account is retwatting Aoife O'Riordan.

This is certainly convincing Nugent not to sue. Why would he feel,persecuted after such a high-minded approach?

#6329

Pigliucci bases his "substantial" criticisms on "genuine intellectual rigor and serious thought"...

LOL!

Uh... NO. Until just now, Peez would've smashed him with a rock if he could've gotten away with it. Because he was someone who needed burying under the troughs of invective Peez happily supplied.

So, now he's sidling up to him with this honorable opponent horseshit and doesn't think anyone will notice it's a greasy move? Peez really hasn't learned anything beyond the 3rd grade playground :lol:

#6330

Ashling O'Brien channeling PZM:

http://godlessindublin.blogspot.ie/2016 ... ocker.html

#6331

Skep tickle wrote:Ashling O'Brien channeling PZM:

http://godlessindublin.blogspot.ie/2016 ... ocker.html

Ouch. That is painfully unfunny.

I love that while we have satirical geniuses like Ape+Lust operating in the Pit, every time they try to do humor it ends up as just a stream of butthurt. They're pathetic.

#6332

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:This is certainly convincing Nugent not to sue. Why would he feel,persecuted after such a high-minded approach?

The account has been going only a few hours and Aiden stumbled across it and decided to follow based on hardly any tweets? And he's one of only four followers?

I'm pretty sure it's either his sock or a close friend of is.

And he attacks others for ableism while following/writing tweets that joke about autism?

And I don't give a shit if I'm 'misgendering' him. He's a sack of shit.

#6333

Brive1987 wrote:PZ's white knighting of Watson and, fuck me, defense of Massimo (because of his Dawkins hate) here.

Apparently Jamy Ian Swiss is also coping 100% of the blame for the dis-dis-invitation. On the basis that Dawkins addressed him when declining to participate in the rescheduled pogrom.

http://archive.is/NhUDZ

Unbelievable.

Also, here is Oggy's contribution:
http://i.imgur.com/o9Fv0ZT.png

Err...fuck you. Please don't mansplain to me about what would happen to "a young black woman". Stick with analyzing the pudding white children that you take on tours of your forest.

And Nerd, of course.

Beautiful, crazy old Nerd:
http://i.imgur.com/qZgGdRV.png

#6334

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Ashling O'Brien channeling PZM:

http://godlessindublin.blogspot.ie/2016 ... ocker.html
Ouch. That is painfully unfunny.

I love that while we have satirical geniuses like Ape+Lust operating in the Pit, every time they try to do humor it ends up as just a stream of butthurt. They're pathetic.

Errrm, who is "they"?

#6335

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Ashling O'Brien channeling PZM:

http://godlessindublin.blogspot.ie/2016 ... ocker.html
Ouch. That is painfully unfunny.

I love that while we have satirical geniuses like Ape+Lust operating in the Pit, every time they try to do humor it ends up as just a stream of butthurt. They're pathetic.

She is mocking the Irish SJWs by writing in the style of PZ's grenade post.
It's not that bad (although it clearly needs more photoshooping.)
Speaking of which, I got my copy of photoshop working again. The laptop where I'd installed it has been faulty for a while and so I haven't been doing much in the way of pitshoops.

#6336

Oh no, not another one. Umberto Eco dies at 84 :(

#6337

My good deed done for the day. PZ's witch of the week seems decent but purhaps a touch under informed about PZ post 2010.

http://i.imgur.com/YeOD3xd.jpg

#6338

HunnyBunny wrote:

Some gangly stranger wearing ludicrous shorts while flipping off the camera? And holding a garishly-covered book about why straight people are the worst?

How is it the rest of you Pitters are so blasé about this? I don't know what to think and I'm freaking out.

#6339

Eskarina wrote:Oh no, not another one. Umberto Eco dies at 84 :(

Although The Name of the Rose was very good, it seems ironically fitting that a semiotician with postmodernist leanings would be Professor Emeritus at the University of Bologna.

#6340

Cnutella wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:

Some gangly stranger wearing ludicrous shorts while flipping off the camera? And holding a garishly-covered book about why straight people are the worst?

How is it the rest of you Pitters are so blasé about this? I don't know what to think and I'm freaking out.

Oh, yeah, I'm scared. They pose a clear and present danger. They can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, loathe firearms and have the tactical cunning of a dung beetle. But revolution, they'll show us what's what. By the power of Twitter and Tumblr, we shall be humbled. The trains won't run on time, or even run, but the revolution will ensure that everyone's pronouns will be respected even as starvation destroys society. Glory be.

#6341

Somebody needs to kick Nugent into suing these fucks. Kickstarter for legal funds. Then they will actually be held accountable, and their only means of attack will be neutralized. Thus would stop the annoying mosquito whine.

#6342

I'm bedding down. See people tomorrow.

#6343

The Brown (University) Daily Herald: http://www.browndailyherald.com/2016/02 ... activists/

Headline:

Schoolwork, advocacy place strain on student activists
Students struggle with mental health, academic pressures as they act on social justice responsibilities

#6344

Emma Watson is taking a year off from acting to do important work that will immensely aid humanity.

Nah, just kidding. She's going to spend a year focussed on feminism :roll:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/fe ... n-feminism

#6345

jimthepleb wrote:Asking the missus to get up on a table so I could check her quarters for mastitis was one of my great faux pas. Apparently hooomuns don't have quarters. Wish they had told me this at school. The slap was worth the lulz though.

To be fair to her, "Arr, let me check yer quarters fer mastitis!" sounds like something a raunchy drunken sailor could have said. My reaction would be "Whatever the state of my quarters, your stitis stays out of them!"

#6346

Cnutella wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:

Some gangly stranger wearing ludicrous shorts while flipping off the camera? And holding a garishly-covered book about why straight people are the worst?

How is it the rest of you Pitters are so blasé about this? I don't know what to think and I'm freaking out.

The book says" queer revolution not mere inclusion"

Really? Good luck with that.
You should be happy and greatful that you get my apathy.
That's all anyone else gets and that's what you get.

You are not special.

#6347

Dick Strawkins wrote: She is mocking the Irish SJWs by writing in the style of PZ's grenade post.
It's not that bad (although it clearly needs more photoshooping.)

Maybe something like this?

#6348

ffs wrote:

Of course the Wikipedia article on Irigaray has been carefully cleaned from this notable factlet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luce_Irigaray

#6349

Spike13 wrote:Got a bad feeling that a Bernie or Hillary win 16' will translate into a republican majority in 18'
( similar to Clinton 92' Gingrich congress in 94')

Are you giving the depth of their arses in foot or have you just mucked up the position of the apostrophe?

#6350

Brive1987 wrote:I did enjoy the Astronauts Wife the first time

...until one day he came back early from a moontrip and walloped you :mrgreen:

#6351

AndrewV69 wrote:Red flag. Every time that I can recall seeing "trying to raise awareness" it turns out that someone is being completely dishonest.

Good observation for the SJW dictionary:
Raising awareness - Lying, allegedly for a greater good. (Compare: Taqiyya; Lying for Jesus).

#6352

feathers wrote:
Spike13 wrote:Got a bad feeling that a Bernie or Hillary win 16' will translate into a republican majority in 18'
( similar to Clinton 92' Gingrich congress in 94')
Are you giving the depth of their arses in foot or have you just mucked up the position of the apostrophe?

Mucked up the apostrophe.

#6353

feathers wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:Red flag. Every time that I can recall seeing "trying to raise awareness" it turns out that someone is being completely dishonest.
Good observation for the SJW dictionary:
Raising awareness - Lying, allegedly for a greater good. (Compare: Taqiyya; Lying for Jesus).

We should write an SJW speak to English dictionary.
Would be quite the amusing read.

The shoop artists can do the pics.

#6354

Spike13 wrote:
feathers wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:Red flag. Every time that I can recall seeing "trying to raise awareness" it turns out that someone is being completely dishonest.
Good observation for the SJW dictionary:
Raising awareness - Lying, allegedly for a greater good. (Compare: Taqiyya; Lying for Jesus).
We should write an SJW speak to English dictionary.
Would be quite the amusing read.

The shoop artists can do the pics.

Excellent idea. Lets do a book!

#6355

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: I've resolved to give SUNSHINE a chance.

I finally overcame bad reviews to watch MOON, which was simply brilliant, and SOURCE CODE, which requires one initial suspension of disbelief before taking you on a well-paced, exciting ride (then one gaping plot hole at the very end, but roll with it.)

The bad reviews of AUTOMATA, however, were accurate. It made a terrible hash out of a potentially fascinating premise.

Moon and Source Code are the only reasons I'm going to give the WoW movie a chance. Duncan Jones is a fucking genius director.

Oh, and Travis Fimmel (watched the first episode of the new Vikings season. It was ace.)

#6356

Oglebart wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Of course, picture not showing. Useless me.

The guy with his head in the vice.
The head in the vice scene is from Casino. Easy to mix them up though, both Scorcese movies, with De Niro and Pesci amongst others.

Then I must have some edited version, because that scene is missing from my copy of Casino. Was it some kind of Director's Cut thingy?

#6357

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Spike13 wrote: We should write an SJW speak to English dictionary.
Would be quite the amusing read.

The shoop artists can do the pics.
Excellent idea. Lets do a book!

And if it turns out to be crap we can just cobble together a selection of old posts from the endless thread and pass it off as new material!

#6358

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Oglebart wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Of course, picture not showing. Useless me.

The guy with his head in the vice.
The head in the vice scene is from Casino. Easy to mix them up though, both Scorcese movies, with De Niro and Pesci amongst others.
Then I must have some edited version, because that scene is missing from my copy of Casino. Was it some kind of Director's Cut thingy?

Hmm, I don't know then. It's been in the versions I have seen. Even when shown on UK television, I"m not really a film buff though, all I have is my lived experience!

Guest_0048cc29 · #6359

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I think Samantha Bee and Donald Trump could have a great late night career.

#6360

An interesting article on opendemocracy about the rise of a new "shame culture" through SJW activism, and about why it's a huge deal (h/t Claire Lehmann):

In an interesting essay, Lukianoff and Haidt deplore the moral and civic poverty of “catastrophizing” — a self-infantilising attitude whereby common events such as offense occasioned by free speech are hyperbolised into nightmarish trials from which the “victim” might not emerge unscathed

The elevation of victimhood to the level of celebratory virtue serves as a trump card curtailing debate by allowing the “victim” to make unsubstantiated claims about racism and the like. Victimhood becomes a cloak behind which the dagger hides. It places on the purported offenders the undue burden of proving their innocence in a climate poisoned by those posing as, or speaking on behalf of, victims. There is no better way to lash out with impunity than posing as a victim.

Interestingly enough, in the comment there's a plethora of SJWs who defend the idea of taking down the statue of Cecil Rhodes (the event which inspired the article) which caused the readers to with various arguments which basically boil down to "tearing down the past sends a signal to the present" and that they're not reacting out of outrage, but because they're "fighting against injustice". Many suggest destroying or spraying painting the statue as a way to signal their virtue.