The Refuge of the Toads

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Practically all we've been talking about this week is The Orbit, and people see... corncobs?

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Gumby wrote:
HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
I do not recall anyone talking about corncobs. Is there another Slymepit that y'all are hiding from me?
I assume its a reference to Briev's comment here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=472&p=347043&hilit=corn#p347043

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Dave wrote:
Gumby wrote:
HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
I do not recall anyone talking about corncobs. Is there another Slymepit that y'all are hiding from me?
I assume its a reference to Briev's comment here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=472&p=347043&hilit=corn#p347043
From that, we get "all they're talking about is violating people with corncobs".

So nice to see that honesty is alive and well in the atheist community.

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Søren Lilholt wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:the crazy continues at The Orbit.

Greta is now apologising for a 6 year-old post in which she used the word 'stupid'.
I want to extend my apologies for using the word “stupid.” In 2010 I wasn’t aware of the problems with this language. I probably should have been, but I wasn’t. The piece also uses some other ableist language (“insanely rigid but impossibly contradictory”). If you want to understand more about why it’s ableist to use words like “stupid,” “insane,” “crazy,” “dumb,” and “idiot” as insults, please read the excellent piece on this by Ania Bula (my esteemed colleague here at The Orbit), Ableism Challenge. She explains it a lot better than I can.
:bjarte:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160317011 ... -language/
FFS really?!?

I realise Greta is of significantly-below-average intelligence ('stupid', if you will) so she might be a special case - but generally speaking, how can people this deranged function in normal society? Do they simply profess this bullshit online, and then immediately go back to being normal when dealing with real people? Or are they this dysfunctional in every single human interaction?
I think its some of each. Some of the more insane of the crowd probably try to function in this deranged manner all the time and this leads further to their shut-in nature (ex Melody, Caine, etc.) Others probably turn it on and off, or atleast present a fairly sensible face to their real-life interactions, while possibly fuming inside. (ex, PZ and isnt either Zvan or Benson a software analyst?)

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What I find amusing is how lies such as "all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs" will only encourage more of The Cow's sheep to come and take a look, which will reveal the lie, reducing The Cow's trustworthiness in the sheeps' eyes. Dumb move.

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Ericb wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just had my first online tutorial - on the origins on the First World War.

I have four books on my shelf by the Professor leading the discussion and I was a big mouth.

Heaven.
I'm a bit of a WW1 buff myself (though probably a few levels lower than you). Would it be doxing you if you told me who the Prof is? Just curious.
I've PMed you.

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Dave wrote:
Gumby wrote:
HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
I do not recall anyone talking about corncobs. Is there another Slymepit that y'all are hiding from me?
I assume its a reference to Briev's comment here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=472&p=347043&hilit=corn#p347043
There was no threat.

I simply noted the extant offending yellow protrudent object which had no doubt framed his irascible tone.

I will of course, obviously take full responsibility if Trump wins.

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jimthepleb wrote:#FtBOrbituary
I was thinking of "The Obits" as they're pretty much brain dead anyway.

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Ed's pathetic. He ran away from his own failing network to go suckle at the Patheos teat which even Myers very unsubtly called him out on, and he's still acting like a badass behind the keyboard.

A failed former comedian whose biggest punchline is himself.

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HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
As usual, unable to recognise there's an entire world outside of the USA.

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I also have recently brought up corn cobs in Matt's recipe thread. Where you do or do not stick them after getting the corn off of them I left up to the reader.

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Gumby wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:About half the Orbitards' traffic at this point has got to be from Pit Hits.
Probably not too far off. We need to get in the habit of using archive links.
You can't comment on archived links and I'm pretty sure half the comments over there are from trolling Pitters exacting apologies for breathing.

Not surprised Brayton is throwing a hissy fit over corncobs but was totally fine with the rusty chainsaw and dead porcupine arse-rape at his former home.

I suspect he's still got his back channel open for Oggie.

Cunt.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Ericb wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just had my first online tutorial - on the origins on the First World War.

I have four books on my shelf by the Professor leading the discussion and I was a big mouth.

Heaven.
I'm a bit of a WW1 buff myself (though probably a few levels lower than you). Would it be doxing you if you told me who the Prof is? Just curious.
I've PMed you.
And me, please?

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And me!



What are we doing?

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The American Humanist Association captions an article in this manner:
The First Amendment was not created to promote or protect bigotry.
Here's the article.

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/03/17/ ... gislature/
The Georgia bill, reworked several times by lawmakers amid criticism that earlier versions went too far, declares that no pastor can be forced to perform a same-sex wedding.

The bill also grants faith-based organizations — churches, religious schools or associations — the right to reject holding events for people or groups of whom they object. Faith-based groups also could not be forced to hire or retain an employee whose beliefs run counter to the organization’s.

Opponents say the bill could be used to deny services and discriminate against same-sex couples.

“The decision by the legislature today was to make an egregious and discriminatory bill even worse,” the Human Rights Campaign, which represents the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community, said in a statement.

“It’s appalling that anti-equality extremists in the legislature are trying to ignore the will of the people of Georgia,” it said.
Can someone talk me through this? AHA seems crazy. Religious figures should be forced to perform marriages they don't want to perform when all town clerks or justices of the peace or whatever other secular state authorities are legally obligated to perform the same act? Should a mosque be forced to rent their venue to a pork BBQ fundraiser to buy pork-covered bullets?

Am I wrong or are they wrong?

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Michael J wrote:
Alex McDonald wrote:At FTB, proceeds from ad revenue after hosting costs are divided among bloggers according to how much traffic they get: if you get five percent of the site’s hits, you get five percent of the cash. The Orbit’s system differs in two ways. Firstly, now that we’ve raised enough on Kickstarter to cover our first year of hosting costs, all ad revenue will go directly toward paying writers. Secondly, only half the total will be allocated by views the same way as at FTB; the other half will be divided equally between all bloggers.
So no one will get upset when a blogger who doesn't post for six months but still gets a share of the revenue?
They've reinvented the Kolchoz! Because that did such splendid things to production the last time.

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Really? wrote:The American Humanist Association captions an article in this manner:
The First Amendment was not created to promote or protect bigotry.
Here's the article.

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/03/17/ ... gislature/
The Georgia bill, reworked several times by lawmakers amid criticism that earlier versions went too far, declares that no pastor can be forced to perform a same-sex wedding.

The bill also grants faith-based organizations — churches, religious schools or associations — the right to reject holding events for people or groups of whom they object. Faith-based groups also could not be forced to hire or retain an employee whose beliefs run counter to the organization’s.

Opponents say the bill could be used to deny services and discriminate against same-sex couples.

“The decision by the legislature today was to make an egregious and discriminatory bill even worse,” the Human Rights Campaign, which represents the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community, said in a statement.

“It’s appalling that anti-equality extremists in the legislature are trying to ignore the will of the people of Georgia,” it said.
Can someone talk me through this? AHA seems crazy. Religious figures should be forced to perform marriages they don't want to perform when all town clerks or justices of the peace or whatever other secular state authorities are legally obligated to perform the same act? Should a mosque be forced to rent their venue to a pork BBQ fundraiser to buy pork-covered bullets?

Am I wrong or are they wrong?

There are two thoughts about this law. The first is that it is a big waste of time because these religious institutions already have the right to deny service in most cases. The other thought is that this law will be used such as the way that other people will use it in a roundabout way for other people to deny service to gay people.

Funny enough the governor who is a Republican and very conservative is probably not going to sign the bill. This might be due to the fact that he is just a decent person but I also think he is in his last term.

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comhcinc wrote:And me!



What are we doing?
Arse-raping each other with corn cobs. Stay alert please.

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feathers wrote:
comhcinc wrote:And me!



What are we doing?
Arse-raping each other with corn cobs. Stay alert please.

If we are asking for it is it really rape?

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comhcinc wrote:I also have recently brought up corn cobs in Matt's recipe thread. Where you do or do not stick them after getting the corn off of them I left up to the reader.
Ah, but you're not supposed to strip off the corns. Then it loses that corny feeling.

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Really? wrote:Can someone talk me through this? AHA seems crazy. Religious figures should be forced to perform marriages they don't want to perform when all town clerks or justices of the peace or whatever other secular state authorities are legally obligated to perform the same act? Should a mosque be forced to rent their venue to a pork BBQ fundraiser to buy pork-covered bullets?

Am I wrong or are they wrong?
Private religious groups already have this right, so the question becomes: Is this bill just a redundant piece of pro-religious virtue signalling which effectively does nothing? In which case it can be safely ignored. Or does it attempt to carve out new exemptions and restrictions in a genuinely discriminatory fashion?

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comhcinc wrote:
Arse-raping each other with corn cobs. Stay alert please.
If we are asking for it is it really rape?
Only if you're a woman, and drunk.

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Since we might have attracted new traffic hoping for corn-hole porn thanks to Brayton I think it's worth suggesting these new readers pop back to Brayton and ask him about Ogvorbis, the self-confessed child-rapist Brayton provided a platform for.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Shatterface wrote:
HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
As usual, unable to recognise there's an entire world outside of the USA.
Unhiddenness is a twat who used to post at Michael Nugent's as Geraldo or something similar. He also enjoyed sending anti-semite emails to Jerry Coyne. Now seems bored enough to be channelling the memory of his brother in aspergers, NecV20. Ignore is the best option.

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[youtube]kHj-6eYu9jM[/youtube]

MundaneMatt provides audio evidence of his Swatting, provides further updates.

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I bet matt is going to make at least 15 videos on the subject.

The tool.

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God damnit, he doesn't play the audio till the 21 minute mark.

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Wait. I thought the Ana onion was also blogging at the incredibly successful Burning Bridges Network, the other other atheist blog network that ran a successful Kickstarter to do the unique work of blogging about Atheism Plus while using their list of disabilities as their resumes.
It is with great excitement that we announce that Alyssa and Ania Splain You a Thing is joining the orbit. You can find us at http://the-orbit.net/splainyouathing/. We can’t wait to see you there!
We are extremely excited to be joining up with such amazing activists and writers and hope you will take a moment to explore all the talent this network has to offer.
Don’t worry, we haven’t abandoned Burning Bridges either. Stay tuned to our Facebook page for more information as we work towards launching our site and our publishing house.
http://archive.is/MJl6A

Looks like they can't splain us a thing about loyalty.

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Any bets on how long it will be before Zvan gets the Orbit to invite Greg Laden to join?

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the utter irrelevance of the Orbit has been confirmed- Steve Shives supports it enthusiastically:

http://i.imgur.com/Kq6dOzW.jpg

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Has Benson posted about The Orbit yet?

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Suet Cardigan wrote:
HelpingHand wrote:There's a mole on the back channel!

From Brayton's Orbit thread:

Unhiddenness • 4 hours ago
I decided to have a look at what the Pitters were saying about the new blogs, but all they are talking about is violating people with corn cobs. No wonder Trump is on his way to the White House.
Well, that's my new sig sorted out.
Agreed

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comhcinc wrote:And me!



What are we doing?
You

Me

Corn cobs

Leave the lube at home

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ffs wrote:
comhcinc wrote:And me!



What are we doing?
You

Me

Corn cobs

Leave the lube at home
Ah, I see you are an expert.

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When it comes to corn cobs, it doesn't matter if you take it as a suppository or orally, you're still going to see yellow kernels covered in poop.

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You need to learn to chew better.

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comhcinc wrote:You need to learn to chew better.
Your anus can chew?

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
comhcinc wrote:You need to learn to chew better.
Your anus can chew?

Yours can't !?!?

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Sunder wrote:Ed's pathetic. He ran away from his own failing network to go suckle at the Patheos teat which even Myers very unsubtly called him out on, and he's still acting like a badass behind the keyboard.

A failed former comedian whose biggest punchline is himself.
To be fair, that is a fucking massive punchline.

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comhcinc wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
comhcinc wrote:You need to learn to chew better.
Your anus can chew?

Yours can't !?!?
Err...yeah, course it can. I was just...testing you.

(Katamari, how do I stop Commie's anus ripping my cock to a lump of gristle when the inevitable finally happens? What are your gay secrets to protecting yourself from chewing anuses?)

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Really? wrote:The American Humanist Association captions an article in this manner:
The First Amendment was not created to promote or protect bigotry.
Here's the article.

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/03/17/ ... gislature/
The Georgia bill, reworked several times by lawmakers amid criticism that earlier versions went too far, declares that no pastor can be forced to perform a same-sex wedding.

The bill also grants faith-based organizations — churches, religious schools or associations — the right to reject holding events for people or groups of whom they object. Faith-based groups also could not be forced to hire or retain an employee whose beliefs run counter to the organization’s.

Opponents say the bill could be used to deny services and discriminate against same-sex couples.

“The decision by the legislature today was to make an egregious and discriminatory bill even worse,” the Human Rights Campaign, which represents the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community, said in a statement.

“It’s appalling that anti-equality extremists in the legislature are trying to ignore the will of the people of Georgia,” it said.
Can someone talk me through this? AHA seems crazy. Religious figures should be forced to perform marriages they don't want to perform when all town clerks or justices of the peace or whatever other secular state authorities are legally obligated to perform the same act? Should a mosque be forced to rent their venue to a pork BBQ fundraiser to buy pork-covered bullets?
Am I wrong or are they wrong?
There is a lot going on here. For example, the government often gives money to religious organizations to do work that impacts the general public. In some states one of the only ways you can adopt is to go through a church organization. So, the conflict is that non-religious people may not get critical services if religious groups get a lock on the service.

The real problem is that the government often funds religious organizations rather than secular ones. Religious organizations are often able to supply services at a lower cost because they have fewer employment and safety rules, as well as more volunteers.

The Humanists and others have not been successful is ending government funding of religious groups that provide services so they have to fight this law. The law will likely cause problems for non-religious people seeking certain services.

All of this may have blown over if the non-religious were a bit more trustworthy. Religious folks are freaked out over some events. For example, a baker was found guilty of discrimination because they wouldn't bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. The baker lost and was fined $135,000. Yeah... wow... over a fucking cake. Even I think this is unfair.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Your anus can chew?

Yours can't !?!?
Err...yeah, course it can. I was just...testing you.

(Katamari, how do I stop Commie's anus ripping my cock to a lump of gristle when the inevitable finally happens? What are your gay secrets to protecting yourself from chewing anuses?)
That's easy. Have him take the ferret out first.

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Oglebart wrote:Brianna Wu has appeared on a SyFy show called "The Internet Ruined My Life" I got this link from Kiwi Farms. I think it was only aired last night so there aren't many sources yet, and the sound is low on this one.

[youtube]jBBQ7MFx9RA[/youtube]


Check out the look at 2.30 :shock:
Unfortunately the title 'The Internet provided my creatively bankrupt and horrible business management ass pity welfare when I learned how to incite as much as possible and cry victim as loudly as possible while not really revealing more harassment than actual game developers have for decades when they nerf some peoples favorite weapons or some other lame shit and I continue to milk it as much as possible because it's a lot easier than actually developing anything' was too large for TV Guide so they had to go with this version and lie a lot instead

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Xenu wrote:God damnit, he doesn't play the audio till the 21 minute mark.
Kind of funny, his voice hits about 5 octaves over middle C when he's going ookay don't shoot me. :lol:
Seems to me there was another youtuber, Mr. Repzion maybe , that got swatted in the last year or so.
Another geeky gamer type that probably has been targeted for being one of the gamergater type, no doubt by a fan of Brianna Wu or Anita Sarkwatsion out to get revenge for their harassment. :ugeek:

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Keating wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
comhcinc wrote:

Yours can't !?!?
Err...yeah, course it can. I was just...testing you.

(Katamari, how do I stop Commie's anus ripping my cock to a lump of gristle when the inevitable finally happens? What are your gay secrets to protecting yourself from chewing anuses?)
That's easy. Have him take the ferret out first.
Works. Can confirm.

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Faggots, Thimbledicks and Bitches.

Should have thought of that before Lousy Cunt left.

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ffs wrote:
Oglebart wrote:Brianna Wu has appeared on a SyFy show called "The Internet Ruined My Life" I got this link from Kiwi Farms. I think it was only aired last night so there aren't many sources yet, and the sound is low on this one.



Check out the look at 2.30 :shock:
Unfortunately the title 'The Internet provided my creatively bankrupt and horrible business management ass pity welfare when I learned how to incite as much as possible and cry victim as loudly as possible while not really revealing more harassment than actual game developers have for decades when they nerf some peoples favorite weapons or some other lame shit and I continue to milk it as much as possible because it's a lot easier than actually developing anything' was too large for TV Guide so they had to go with this version and lie a lot instead
Role of a lifetime. And that asshole is wringing it for every last greasy drop.



No doubt, they're thrilled with their actor stand-ins :lol:

http://imgur.com/TvycqDK.jpg

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I have some friends (okay, acquaintances) that spend hours mulling over their brackets for the men's NCAA Basketball Tournament. Yale upsets Baylor in the first round, which breaks 99% of the brackets. I find that hilarious. That's probably why they are "acquaintances" and not friends...still funny though. Schadenfreude, a wonderful thing.

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Ape+lust wrote:
ffs wrote:
Oglebart wrote:Brianna Wu has appeared on a SyFy show called "The Internet Ruined My Life" I got this link from Kiwi Farms. I think it was only aired last night so there aren't many sources yet, and the sound is low on this one.



Check out the look at 2.30 :shock:
Unfortunately the title 'The Internet provided my creatively bankrupt and horrible business management ass pity welfare when I learned how to incite as much as possible and cry victim as loudly as possible while not really revealing more harassment than actual game developers have for decades when they nerf some peoples favorite weapons or some other lame shit and I continue to milk it as much as possible because it's a lot easier than actually developing anything' was too large for TV Guide so they had to go with this version and lie a lot instead
Role of a lifetime. And that asshole is wringing it for every last greasy drop.



No doubt, they're thrilled with their actor stand-ins :lol:

http://imgur.com/TvycqDK.jpg
The funny thing is that this show is on Syfy which means people are conditioned to be believe it is bullshit right of the bat. I saw the first episode last night (the one with Suey Parks) and it comes off corny as hell.

They probably didn't realise it when they sign up for it but I think people are going to be less likely to believe their stories after this show.

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Really? wrote:religionnews.com/2016/03/17/religious-liberty-georgia-state-legislature
The Georgia bill, reworked several times by lawmakers amid criticism that earlier versions went too far, declares that no pastor can be forced to perform a same-sex wedding.

The bill also grants faith-based organizations — churches, religious schools or associations — the right to reject holding events for people or groups of whom they object. Faith-based groups also could not be forced to hire or retain an employee whose beliefs run counter to the organization’s.

Opponents say the bill could be used to deny services and discriminate against same-sex couples.

“The decision by the legislature today was to make an egregious and discriminatory bill even worse,” the Human Rights Campaign, which represents the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community, said in a statement.

“It’s appalling that anti-equality extremists in the legislature are trying to ignore the will of the people of Georgia,” it said.
Can someone talk me through this? AHA seems crazy. Religious figures should be forced to perform marriages they don't want to perform when all town clerks or justices of the peace or whatever other secular state authorities are legally obligated to perform the same act? Should a mosque be forced to rent their venue to a pork BBQ fundraiser to buy pork-covered bullets?

Am I wrong or are they wrong?
First off, pastors & priests right now are not forced to perform marriages or any kind. It is the whole separation of church and state.

The only area were I could see this being a problem is if the pastor was a judge. Then that should be part of his or her state duties. Set up a rule like that, then many small county judges will become pastors just to avoid gay marriage. Becoming a pastor is as easy as submitting a few forms online. If the law they are crafting does not acknowledge that, situation then it is poorly crafted (or what they think is well crafted to get them what they want).

As far as them holding events they don't want to, I will give them that. So long as it is on church property, they should get their pass and to my knowledge, no one is forcing them currently.

As far as religious groups not being forced to hire or retain people who's beliefs run counter to their own:
* Many (but not all) grade schools and high schools run by religious organizations already do that. And I believe that it is not contested. Gay? Fired. Pregnant out of wed-lock? Fired. I am not sure this is right.
* Many social service organizations for the poor act this way. For instance Catholic services, food kitchens & homeless shelters in Washington DC did not want to be forced to retain or hire gay people. Washington DC, said fine, if you are not going to follow our non-discrimination rules then the city will not provide money to your organization. Would the new Georgia law consider this "force?" I would expect this to at least go to court as they try to declare it force.
* What about when you get to larger employers such as Catholic Universities or Hospitals? Gay? Muslim? Atheist? Pregnant out of wedlock? I have a much more difficult time swallowing this type of rule when the organization is so large.
* At my grade school, alter boys were paid. They later enforced a rule that only Catholics could be alter-boys. It pissed off the non-catholics in my grade school but I consider this fair.

I think the dividing line should be is if your "religious" organization is really all about your religion, or if you are doing something else.

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comhcinc wrote:The funny thing is that this show is on Syfy which means people are conditioned to be believe it is bullshit right of the bat. I saw the first episode last night (the one with Suey Parks) and it comes off corny as hell.

They probably didn't realise it when they sign up for it but I think people are going to be less likely to believe their stories after this show.
Yeah, that's a good point. I wouldn't ordinarily be optimistic, but it's already happened once with the Sarkeesian/Quinn travesty. Anyone who's seen that would know there's something comically weird going on with this Gamergate nonsense.

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Xenu wrote:God damnit, he doesn't play the audio till the 21 minute mark.
The tool. Just about the only proof he needs for most people is this news article right here:
kptv.com/story/31491363/swatting-prank-scares-beaverton-man

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For contrast - another venue, different reaction. The host raises Gamergate:
"And I did point out this morning that Gamergate happened in 2014 and not in 1865, and I wonder how its, uh, intensity impressed you or surprised you."
And this is Wu while he's speaking:



Still hamboning, but without the pathos.

Here's the video. It happens in the first minute, which is worth seeing if for no other reason than Wu cycles through a lot of her weird tics.


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Ericb wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Just had my first online tutorial - on the origins on the First World War.

I have four books on my shelf by the Professor leading the discussion and I was a big mouth.

Heaven.
I'm a bit of a WW1 buff myself (though probably a few levels lower than you). Would it be doxing you if you told me who the Prof is? Just curious.
I was never much of a World War I buff...and only knew/heard about the basics...dates, a few battles, the 4th installment of Black Adder...
But heard Dan Carlin's multipart podcast about WWI...mainly just the Western Front. Was excellent and it really made me want to learn more.

http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/

It is the "Blueprint for Armageddon" series...but these are all good.

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http://i.imgur.com/CXMUYnL.png

I see this from time to time and wonder if I didn't finally do something to piss off the fascist tit on a level exceeding Steersman. Anyone else?

It's typically, but not always, when I've got my proxy turned on.

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Dan Carlin makes me want to stab my ears with things.

Question about Wu. I know she has that one game. Is that it? Has she ever done anything before either on her own or with a large company?

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From the article:
kptv.com/story/31491363/swatting-prank-scares-beaverton-man
He said he got in a Twitter argument Wednesday morning and thinks the prank could have stemmed from that.
For someone who said in his video he doesn't want to give any clues as to who he thinks it is in order to all the police to do their investigation, Matt is not the brightest of bulbs.

The date would be March 16th. Here is Mundane Matt's Twitter Feed:
https://twitter.com/mundanematt/with_replies
Hmm... odd. None of those tweets are from Wednesday morning, Oregan time. Mundane Matt may have deleted or set all of those tweets to private. Or he gave a false time punch for the twitter fight.

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jet_lagg wrote:http://i.imgur.com/CXMUYnL.png

I see this from time to time and wonder if I didn't finally do something to piss off the fascist tit on a level exceeding Steersman. Anyone else?

It's typically, but not always, when I've got my proxy turned on.
No only every seen that was when I was banned.

Maybe it's microbans for your microagressions?

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comhcinc wrote:
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comhcinc wrote:And me!



What are we doing?
Arse-raping each other with corn cobs. Stay alert please.

If we are asking for it is it really rape?
If you are dressed to display your assets then you are just asking for it.

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comhcinc wrote:Dan Carlin makes me want to stab my ears with things.

Question about Wu. I know she has that one game. Is that it? Has she ever done anything before either on her own or with a large company?
You've probably heard of the $200,000 gift she received for "graduating" college? That went to her first venture, an ostensible animation studio that didn't produce anything more than a strip comic, published in her college newpaper.

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