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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Her name should be Wong-Tam-and-Tam-Again
Fucking :nin: s everywhere.

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Shatterface wrote:All these videos of street 'harassment' are just a rip-off of this Big Train sketch:

[youtube]TfQWm2Hq2xM[/youtube]
Not to mention the manspreading at 0:44.

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feathers wrote:And 2016 continues its morbid tradition with Johan Cruyff (25 April 1947 – 24 March 2016)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35892775
"I don't believe in God. In Spain, all 22 players cross themselves. If it works, the game is always going to be a tie."
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Dave wrote:Damnit you shitlords, dont you see this just proves how unfair the system is?

University of Toronto law professor Brenda Cossman said witnesses are held to unrealistic standards to prove their cases in the current court system.
Shouldnt a city councilperson have a better understanding of the legal system.
Quick! Send a SEAL team to isolate the Utoronto law faculty before any more graduates slip out in the wild! Maybe we can still contain it!

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:You seem so skeptical about most things, but instantly accept this troubled girl's Twitter excuse. Let's hope I'm just dense about your sarcasm here.

Well being this is all the information I have on it then this is what I am going with. If information comes out otherwise then I will change my mind.

Remember I was mostly onboard with laying the girl out for calling the other girl nigger anyway. I do believe violence is sometimes the answer thought I admit it's not a hard and fast rule. I have to be kinda lame and pull a justice Stewart and say I know it when I see it.

In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the shit out of if they can. It's part of the risk/reward of the illegal drug trade. That is why when someone very close to me told me they had become involved in it I began worrying to the point that I believe I may now have an ulcer.

I believe the other girl is on twitter as well. I am sure she would refute such claims if they are not true. Wouldn't you?

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The proper way to solve a drug deal dispute is a drive-by shooting.

These girls are pussies.

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Shatterface wrote:The proper way to solve a drug deal dispute is a drive-by shooting.

These girls are pussies.

At a certain point.......



Yeah I know I am awful.

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feathers wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
feathers wrote:And 2016 continues its morbid tradition with Johan Cruyff (25 April 1947 – 24 March 2016)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35892775
It's strange. It's almost like given an arbitrary time period patterns will emerge if you are looking for them.
Especially as you grow older and your childtime heroes begin to hold the daisies up. (Cruyff was not specifically my hero though, but manifest part of the country's celebrities from 1974 onward).
Don't look now but it has happen again

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Shatterface wrote:The proper way to solve a drug deal dispute is a drive-by shooting.

These girls are pussies.
I was thinking about a trip in the back of the car between two gentlemen, to the harbour. But perhaps this special service is reserved for traitors from your own ranks.

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Za-zen wrote:http://archive.is/irwOC

So let me get this straight, or bended. because greta whacks her clit over non consensual acts being fucked up, her rape porn is A ok. whereas non consensual hugs in mainstream media is promoting rape culture.

She's a fucked up ding bat.
Everyone knows that Social Justice is a religion, but the thing that always gets me is how structurally similar to Evangelical Christianity it is. A common theme in EC is the idea that people are too deeply flawed to ever be saved on our own merits - we need to pray to Jesus and take communion so that he'll intercede on our behalf come judgement day, and we need to spread the word to save others. On the flip side, if people are adequately devoted, it doesn't really matter how they've sinned.

Same shit with SJWs. The real sin is not believing, not supporting the dogma, and not spreading the good news about the comming anti-racist utopia... But if you do all the right devotional work, identify as a feminist, pass out the problematics on twitter, denounce the heathens, then you get to enjoy your problematic media on the side, guilt free. You've been forgiven. Your guilty pleasures are OK, because you've repented in your heart, and accepted that you are a sinner. OTOH, if you reject the doctrine then you are damned no matter what - your actions don't matter, they automatically make you guilty no matter what they are.

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Not a poe.

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Dave wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
The Yeti wrote:It looks like Mr. Davoin Shower-Handel has returned to the orbit and is calling out Greta Christina on her hypocrisy.

http://archive.is/irwOC
Greta does not appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, does she?
Hah!
Greta wrote:Chris asks Ann out multiple times, even though she keeps saying no — and Ann says to Leslie, “He is nothing if not persistent.” No, no, no, no, no. This idea that persistence is flattering and that refusing to take No for an answer promotes jolly good fun or is an admirable romantic trait — this isn’t just annoying. It’s dangerous. It’s a pop culture trope that needs to be taken out into the street and shot.
Its not a pop culture trope. Its reality. Men will stop being persistent shortly after women stop demanding it. Dont play hard to get and men will take no for an answer.
I've seen it especially with friends who were players. The girls played hard to get so that they weren't seen as an easy conquest. Two actual got and are still married. I've also seen a few where the girls weren't interested but eventually got with the guy.

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We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:

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John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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General anxiety and social anxiety, huh? Guess we won't be seeing xir at Orbitcon. Her disability is so crippling that she deserves to be supported by the people, after all.

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Really? wrote:
John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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General anxiety and social anxiety, huh? Guess we won't be seeing xir at Orbitcon. Her disability is so crippling that she deserves to be supported by the people, after all.
9 distinct conditions!
Over-under on how many are self diagnosed: 7.5

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free thoughtpolice wrote:commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:
I think the whole thing is stupid, but some people want to do it.

The problem with taking the lost is that it will just keep happening. These not a businesses run by good honest craft people who take pride in their work and are happy earning an honest day's pay.

If you go to a legitimate business and they screw up over somehow you have a lot of options. You might actually be able to call the police, you can sue them, you can get a chargeback on your credit card.

In an illegal drug deal you do not have those options. You can either get screwed (which people often choice to do so) or you can knock a bitch out.

Remember by talking part in the illegal drug trade you are already risk lose of property, death, serious injury, and jail time.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:
Yeah, that's not only ethically very questionable, it's also tactically stupid, especially in this case, where the attacked was being filmed and admitted to committing a crime on Twitter.

The girl isn't exactly a poor, innocent victim of racism. More like America's Next Dumbest Criminal. No sympathy to her from me.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:
Yeah, that's not only ethically very questionable, it's also tactically stupid, especially in this case, where the attacked was being filmed and admitted to committing a crime on Twitter.

The girl isn't exactly a poor, innocent victim of racism. More like America's Next Dumbest Criminal. No sympathy to her from me.
Her right hook will come in handy in the prison yard in 3 years.

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commie: I've known a good number of drug dealers over the years sonny, including bikers that murdered and got murdered as well as a few dealers that made a lot of money without resorting to violence in spite of occasionally getting ripped off.
The difference is getting smart and learning to avoid the rip-offs and being able to afford to own their own house plus vacation place in Mexico debt free versus eventually getting murdered or thrown in jail for a long,long time.
The even smarter thing is to not get into illegal shit but from what I've seen doing violence and dealing with people that do violence pretty much guarantees a bad outcome in the long run.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
The reason I don't have a twitter account -- I'd have said: Answer begging the question, you dumb cunt.

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Don't look now but PZ is literally shit posting a la Mykeru.

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So you have known a good number of drug dealers and a few have been nonviolent at least as far as you know.

I don't see how that is against my point at all.


What does a bear need with drugs?

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Here's another person that is upset by the Ghomeshi verdict

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/p ... -1.3505895

This is under the tag "Salt Incoming" over at KiA :D

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Xenu wrote: Not a poe.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Dave wrote:
Greta wrote:Chris asks Ann out multiple times, even though she keeps saying no — and Ann says to Leslie, “He is nothing if not persistent.” No, no, no, no, no. This idea that persistence is flattering and that refusing to take No for an answer promotes jolly good fun or is an admirable romantic trait — this isn’t just annoying. It’s dangerous. It’s a pop culture trope that needs to be taken out into the street and shot.
Its not a pop culture trope. Its reality. Men will stop being persistent shortly after women stop demanding it. Dont play hard to get and men will take no for an answer.
As someone who just did their mandated, every-two-years, harassment training, I would point out that there's a huge difference between "no" and either "no and don't ask again" or "never."
They've should've just shown you all this video and cut the training short:

[youtube]cMTAUr3Nm6I[/youtube]

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John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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Considering all the depression and anxiety, they sure as hell are thick skinned when it comes to expressing their crazy views in public.

Looks to me like Viki M is suffering from chronic self-diagnosis and acute hypochondria.

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Guest_84d94f98 wrote:
TheMan wrote:
John D wrote:Haha! This just happened at my local Arby's. No shit. You gotta watching this fucking kid. I now support raising the minimum wage for Arby's workers.

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Wow... I think that's Tom Cruise.
I suspect that video was shooped into the original news report by a satirist.

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I'm positive it was. Still funny though. And that dude looks like com.

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comhcinc wrote:So you have known a good number of drug dealers and a few have been nonviolent at least as far as you know.

I don't see how that is against my point at all.


What does a bear need with drugs?
I didn't say that I was involved in any illegal activity.
I know people for a fact that were nonviolent that were dealing, including the occasional one that made a career of it for basically as long as you've been walking the earth.
You said you thought that dumbass thug did the right thing by resorting to violence and I made the point that in the long run violent thugs end up dead or fucked up.
The non violent ones tend to be able to avoid the worst consequences, the violent ones seldom do.
You said she did the right thing, I said she didn't.

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Brive1987 --- what's the latest Patreon video like, where Watson says she abused a gamergater?

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
comhcinc wrote:So you have known a good number of drug dealers and a few have been nonviolent at least as far as you know.

I don't see how that is against my point at all.


What does a bear need with drugs?
I didn't say that I was involved in any illegal activity.
I know people for a fact that were nonviolent that were dealing, including the occasional one that made a career of it for basically as long as you've been walking the earth.
You said you thought that dumbass thug did the right thing by resorting to violence and I made the point that in the long run violent thugs end up dead or fucked up.
The non violent ones tend to be able to avoid the worst consequences, the violent ones seldom do.
You said she did the right thing, I said she didn't.
I never said you were involved in any illegal activities either, nor did I mean to imply it. If it came off that way sorry.

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Dave wrote: Ye Gods!

This means skinny girl should have totally expected it.

Welch was right! We will never hear the end of it from him.
If she's not lying about the drug deal (a huge IF from what I can see)...yeah, probably. If you're dealing, violence is going to happen at some point, given your target market.

Actually, now, my main thought is, "IT'S NOT FLORIDA, HOORAY!!!"

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John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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I'd say there's no "borderline" about it.

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Guest_474c585c wrote:Brive1987 --- what's the latest Patreon video like, where Watson says she abused a gamergater?
Watson - I watch so you don't have to.

Well she has a strange sing song inflection.
She has suffered a straight scissor cut across her fringe
She is amazed anyone turned up to her quiz-a-thing
She confirms Phil Plait remains an agent of darkness

Apparently her deep space nine celeb panelist was so freaked out she organised a mate to mercy call her with a story that Steve Wozniak wanted to meet her NOW - and so fled the panel.

The empty chair is replaced by an audience member.

Now this fucking rodent faced page boy thing* shames this guy for being a typical nerdy comicon dude who hasn't kissed a girl before. Just to set the stage.

So the dud-bro quite rightly answers the question paraphrased as "what did Twitter fuxk up recently" with "hire Anita Sarkisian to provide anti harassment advice". Apparently the correct anwser is something to do with timelines.

So Becky dismisses him from the stage. And he stands his ground tm before finally vacating. Then Becky picks a 17 year old cat woman chick who does a lot better on the next question properly answering "penis bone"

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free thoughtpolice wrote:commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:
If you're dealing drugs, jail time is not something you're too concerned about, beyond the inconvenience. You may note most people who do that have kind of fucked-up lives already, especially meth dealers.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:commie wrote:
In the case of a illegal drug deal gone wrong, if this is the case here, then yes physical violence is the proper resolution tool. That's the rules of the game. You screw someone over their are going to beat the
Well that is brilliant advice. Rather than taking a loss and going on with life resort to violence, risk death, serious injury, or getting your ass thrown in jail and a criminal record and screwing up your life. :drool:
Yeah, that's not only ethically very questionable, it's also tactically stupid, especially in this case, where the attacked was being filmed and admitted to committing a crime on Twitter.

The girl isn't exactly a poor, innocent victim of racism. More like America's Next Dumbest Criminal. No sympathy to her from me.
Juvenile Drug Dealers are stupid? No!

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VickyCaramel wrote:
John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:
Medically, I am what is officially known as a “hot mess”. Fibromyalgia, depression. general anxiety, social anxiety, PTSD, sound sensitivity/misophonia, ADD, sleep apena, and to top it off, Borderline Personality Disorder.

It’s so much fun. I’d party, but I’m too damned tired. (and no, I’m not looking for suggestions. Not the point of this post. I have a gang of doctors and a therapist. I have legal people helping me in the long process of filing for disability. I’m handling shit)
I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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Considering all the depression and anxiety, they sure as hell are thick skinned when it comes to expressing their crazy views in public.

Looks to me like Viki M is suffering from chronic self-diagnosis and acute hypochondria.
The Official Medical Term is "Nit-Wit"

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Pending.

Like Becky's podcast.

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I love it. The next time that I'm asked about something that I was supposed to have done days, weeks, months, or year previously, I'm going to say that it's "pending."

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Sonia wrote:Perhaps legal experts should learn from sexual assault experts. #Ghomeshi
Learn from sexual assault experts? What is the word for them? Serial r...

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Brive1987 wrote:Pending.

Like Becky's podcast.

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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the name Davoin Shower-Handel is from this awesome Key and Peele sketch which makes fun of black folks's names.

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The hits keep comin' from Sonia

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Za-zen writes:
Not surprising considering the west is pretty good at going in and fucking things up for people trying to live their lives and raise their kids. Then whinges when they get a bloody nose for it.
I don't buy that. Western powers have done some wrong, but have also done good. In most cases it is totally bullshit.
The Ottomans and Turks ruled Syria for a thousand years and set up a fractured tribal system that was set up to fail. Western powers ruled the area for less than a century and more than 60 years ago left them to self rule and stopped interfering. They didn't install Assad and the Baathists, that was a homegrown movement.
Yet, you frequently hear from Chomsky/Marxist types that it is all the west's fault and of course the pro islamist types drink that right up.
Of course I might think that because I'm a running dog lackey of the capitalist- imperialist kyriarchy that was abused by my parents and therefore unable form correct opinions. :ugeek:
I get the impression many people have a wrong idea about the positions of Noam Chomsky. Sometimes people misrepresent him who know how Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and others are often misrepresented. His books (and his lectures) are tight discussions on concrete matters, not speculations or blaming the West with sweeping statements. US history is filled with dodgy activity, Iran-Contra Affair, Cointelpro or Abu Ghraib and more schenanigans. There is more or less an unbroken line of shenangians from imprisoning people without proper due process, or killing them because they look suspicious to a drone operator. US propaganda sells this activity very well through Hollywood, where we are told e.g. in Zero Dark Thirty how torture works when in reality it didn't. The US invades countries to secure its interests and doesn't care at all about human rights or western values.

Just as that some people decide to look into religion, or Islam, or women's rights, there can be someone who is interested in what the United States does. And I don't quite understand why there is such an agony over this. Even a hundred Chomskies would not be enough. There can be other people concerned with Russia. Or with the Taliban, or with Islam in general.

I accept "Dear Muslima" and find it correct, for two reasons. First, there was an Atheist Movement with the implicit goal that it's about atheism, not something else. Of course you can always make an offer and ask people to join the other activity, which didn't happen. It was a social justice kafkatrap-style takeover, where people were forced to deal with the matters. A reminder to move closer to atheist-related matters was fair. Secondly, and leaving the Elevatorgate-Motte-Bailey Doctrine aside (double entrendre in lift vs rape culture), within atheist-feminism, feelz at US conferences is just parochial. However, there is nothing wrong with following what's aptly called the "Chomsky Rule", namely being concerned with that your own government does before pointing fingers at other governments, where you have no influence. You have something to say in your own country, especially as a public intellectual.

Noam Chomsky isn't an apologist like many people he's often associated with. Even in the Sam Harris clash, he doesn't say the opponents of the US were nice people. Rather, he points out that Sam Harris is mistaken when he believes "good intentions". The US has the resources to make a PR friendly war, the other side typically hasn't. Further, he's not a Regressive Leftist as it's now sometimes claimed. Chomsky's criticism is rooted in the evidence, not in a postmodernist ideological stance that is typical for Regressive Left or Social Justice Warriors (to me the latter are a subset that seems entirely within the Regressive Left). They are also famously blank slaters and actually concerned with propagandistic means to shape human nature. By contrast, Chomsky is an anti-postmodernist, detests propaganda and also a nativist (i.e. the opposite of blank slate).

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He's probably wrong about some things. But I hate it anyway to make sweeping pronouncements about the totality of some person. But you know my stance.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Careful. I think she just 'tarded herself out with that last comment to the point that it doesn't make any sense for her given position.
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free thoughtpolice wrote:
comhcinc wrote:So you have known a good number of drug dealers and a few have been nonviolent at least as far as you know.

I don't see how that is against my point at all.


What does a bear need with drugs?
I didn't say that I was involved in any illegal activity.
I know people for a fact that were nonviolent that were dealing, including the occasional one that made a career of it for basically as long as you've been walking the earth.
You said you thought that dumbass thug did the right thing by resorting to violence and I made the point that in the long run violent thugs end up dead or fucked up.
The non violent ones tend to be able to avoid the worst consequences, the violent ones seldom do.
You said she did the right thing, I said she didn't.
You do realize, you're arguing over how to not get caught while committing crimes with an ex-con who recently went on twitter to falsely accuse someone of being a pedophile, right?

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People have been wondering which direction Mizzou was going to go in terms of dealing with the SJW element in their university. It appears that they are going to double down and boost those departments at the root of the problem.

Mizzou will now require ‘diversity intensive’ courses for graduation
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The school took action this week on two diversity demands, hiring a chief diversity officer and requiring students to complete diversity-themed courses.
The College of Arts and Science at Mizzou announced Wednesday that undergraduates will now have to complete three credit-hours of “diversity intensive” (DI) courses in order to graduate, saying the courses will focus on “understanding differing social groups” and “will explore at least one form of social inequality, broadly defined.”
Similar curricular changes had been periodically debated since a 1990 rally at which students demanded mandatory “multicultural” classes, but the idea was repeatedly tabled until this week, when it was approved with 75 percent of a faculty vote.
The will get the salary freezes they deserve.
The revised A&S curriculum is not the only form of mandatory diversity training at Mizzou, however. Starting this semester, all incoming students must participate in a “Diversity@Mizzou” workshop intended to help them understand and appreciate cultural and racial diversity.

At the inaugural training session in January, for example, students were treated to several examples of cultural appropriation, such as dressing up as a geisha or taco for Halloween, and were also told that the pursuit of inclusivity should take precedence over freedom of speech.
So dressing as a taco is cultural appropriation? Not a Mexican. Not a mariachia band member. But a taco. Would dressing as a hamburger be bad or not? At the tend of the day, their students are going to stop relating, associating or having anything to do with other cultures for fear of the PC police, which they are all being trained to be.

40 million in the hole today. Looking at hiking tuition 7% each year to make up costs. And yet they higher a diversity officer at 1/4 million dollars a year and expand out their SJW course requirements. Idiots. All of them. The university deserves its impending slow death.

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IOW, a Canada where 2 in three women HAVE been assaulted.

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At the inaugural training session in January, for example, students were treated to several examples of cultural appropriation, such as dressing up as a geisha or taco for Halloween, and were also told that the pursuit of inclusivity should take precedence over freedom of speech.
And the fact that dressing up for Halloween is also a cultural appropriation was somehow missed? Or is this a case of appropriating from a white culture being OK?

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fuzzy wrote:
welch wrote:
I'd still count the good silverware before he leaves.
I don't think I'd have the spoons to do that.
I have to de-lurk to say that this is the best pun I've seen in a long time. Bravo.

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Xenu wrote:
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John Greg wrote:We've often chatted briefly about how emotionally, physically, and mentally fucked up some of the SJW folk are, and how gleeful they are to garner victim points by listing their ailments. Here's the Orbit's Viki M of the Seriously?!? blog:

I'd comment on her comment, but she's worn me out and I haven't got teh spooons.

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General anxiety and social anxiety, huh? Guess we won't be seeing xir at Orbitcon. Her disability is so crippling that she deserves to be supported by the people, after all.
9 distinct conditions!
Over-under on how many are self diagnosed: 7.5
The others are all a subset of the last one, based on my vicarious thrilling past experiences.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:IOW, a Canada where 2 in three women HAVE been assaulted.
I'm pretty sure it's 3 in 2, which is even worse. But I do not support rape culture. Honest.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:IOW, a Canada where 2 in three women HAVE been assaulted.
I'm pretty sure it's 3 in 2, which is even worse. But I do not support rape culture. Honest.

These numbers don't make sense to me.

Have the 8 women that live in Canada been raped or not?

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comhcinc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:IOW, a Canada where 2 in three women HAVE been assaulted.
I'm pretty sure it's 3 in 2, which is even worse. But I do not support rape culture. Honest.

These numbers don't make sense to me.

Have the 8 women that live in Canada been raped or not?
Whats not to understand? Clearly 10.79 of them have been.

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Dave wrote:
comhcinc wrote:

These numbers don't make sense to me.

Have the 8 women that live in Canada been raped or not?
Whats not to understand? Clearly 10.79 of them have been.
Wait so when did Muscato move to Canada?

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comhcinc wrote:Can someone with the proper spoons vet this?

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Too many people talking with a hot potato in their mouth, but otherwise it's legit.

There are some mistakes in the English translation - for example, at 0:35 the inspector is saying that police can't enter the gang-ruled areas "with just one car", not "with a car".

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Liberal immigration lawyer calls for a 6-month moratorium on all immigration into the US:

http://www.lowellsun.com/opinion/ci_295 ... helmed-u-s

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windy wrote:Too many people talking with a hot potato in their mouth, but otherwise it's legit.

There are some mistakes in the English translation - for example, at 0:35 the inspector is saying that police can't enter the gang-ruled areas "with just one car", not "with a car".

Thanks! I want to make sure this wasn't an Inside Edition type program where it seems to be news but it really isn't.

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