comhcinc wrote:d4m10n wrote:Looking forward to the new atheism conference
An online conference. That seems to like the worst idea ever. Like you take all the fun things about a conference. The meeting new people, the drinking, the cool location, the asking for coffee in elevators.
Too late. The movie is ruined for me. Fuck you. (Die Adam Ant Word)ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Ignore the Cloverfield tweet.
Other than the ad in the middle for his latest book, I enjoyed the article. Covers lots of ground. Thanks to each of you for posting the link.*HoneyWagon wrote:My link earlier wasn't good enough?!?!John Greg wrote:Repost link for high interest, and many good ideas....
Michael Shermer: http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/cam ... of-speech/
:whistle:
Whatever mansplainer!
Hey, PZ, when you read this, please digest the follow pair of stats.Brive1987 wrote:PZ quotes a "painfully common story" about a firearm fuckup. From 2013. Without a blush.
I can understand someone being unprepared for a Downs kid but surely they're going to have a good idea of the race of the child before they conceive?free thoughtpolice wrote:Here is an interesting law; you can't have an abortion because the fetus shows symptoms of Down's syndrome or other anomaly:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -syndrome/
The law also prohibits having an abortion because of the race or sex of the fetus.
So you can only abort fetuses if they are healthy white males? It sounds like the Republicans and the SJWs are teaming up.
Until now, you've always come across as someone who has known a variety of women, including some wild ones. I guess I was wrong.Shatterface wrote:I can understand someone being unprepared for a Downs kid but surely they're going to have a good idea of the race of the child before they conceive?
Man's gotta make a living.Skep tickle wrote:Other than the ad in the middle for his latest book, I enjoyed the article. Covers lots of ground. Thanks to each of you for posting the link.*HoneyWagon wrote:My link earlier wasn't good enough?!?!John Greg wrote:Repost link for high interest, and many good ideas....
Michael Shermer: http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/cam ... of-speech/
:whistle:
Whatever mansplainer!
*Had actually read it from a link on Twitter, before either of you posted it here :p
I tend to be skeptical about Bigfoot but if there are reports of him raping horses and all accusations of rape must be believed then we can't deny his existence.VickyCaramel wrote:I have just started to listen to the Bigfoot Outlaws, who have recently decided to talk about Bigfoot raping horses.
https://www.youtube.com/user/BigfootCrossroads/videos
...come on, how can you resist a topic like that?
They suck their nightjar.Shatterface wrote:According to folklore, what part of a goat is a chupacabra alleged to suck?
Archive link: http://archive.is/z9URCfree thoughtpolice wrote:...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/frontier/20 ... 1/#more-33
[youtube]bRoOOm0-3_8[/youtube]Shatterface wrote:I can understand someone being unprepared for a Downs kid but surely they're going to have a good idea of the race of the child before they conceive?free thoughtpolice wrote:Here is an interesting law; you can't have an abortion because the fetus shows symptoms of Down's syndrome or other anomaly:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -syndrome/
The law also prohibits having an abortion because of the race or sex of the fetus.
So you can only abort fetuses if they are healthy white males? It sounds like the Republicans and the SJWs are teaming up.
''Mr and Mrs Onwuatuegwu? We've just had the results of the scans back and I'm afraid there's a good chance your child will be black''
3 comments at the archive link (plus 1 reply by Trav) - not all agree.All I’m saying is that all ideologies–even ones based on reality–can fall prey to dogmatism, and this one particular Facebook group is a perfect example. They may be atheists, but they still operate under the same cultish “us vs. them” mindset as religion. With this one particular Facebook group, it’s not enough to say you are sorry when you’ve said something fucked up; you have do penance to atone for your sins. They say they are “holding each other accountable,” but that’s the exact same thing my ex-fiancee’s family told me when they mentally and spiritually abused me.
So yes, there are toxic feminists out there. Fortunately their numbers are rare. Unfortunately, they’re just as toxic as fundamentalists.
From that thread:Skep tickle wrote:Archive link: http://archive.is/z9URC
:popcorn:Siobhan wrote:A few well known fuckbois who are tolerated on PZ’s blog didn’t make it through my filter. Go JAQ off on other blogs, I ain’t tolerating your sea lion bullshit. You’re in my house and you will not pretend you can dictate to trans folk what constitutes civil treatment.
Climate change can be strange at time. I remember freerepublic had a thread about how snowfall was increasing in the Antarctic interior and this was proof that climate change was a fraud. But the Antarctic interior is actually a desert. Very little snowfall because there is very little water vapor because of the extreme cold. An increase in snowfall actually meant the interior was warming up allowing more water vapor into the atmosphere to precipitate out as snow.comhcinc wrote:No, global warming is false because it just snowed. The climate changes every day.jet_lagg wrote: It's exactly as stupid as people who shriek climate change is false because it just snowed.
Take that Al Gore!!!!
Trust me, YMMV.Shatterface wrote:I can understand someone being unprepared for a Downs kid but surely they're going to have a good idea of the race of the child before they conceive?free thoughtpolice wrote:Here is an interesting law; you can't have an abortion because the fetus shows symptoms of Down's syndrome or other anomaly:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -syndrome/
The law also prohibits having an abortion because of the race or sex of the fetus.
So you can only abort fetuses if they are healthy white males? It sounds like the Republicans and the SJWs are teaming up.
''Mr and Mrs Onwuatuegwu? We've just had the results of the scans back and I'm afraid there's a good chance your child will be black''
I'm not a 22-year-old weirdo who thinks I know everything about the world even though my two dozen self-diagnosed illnesses prevent me from leaving my apartment.Billie from Ockham wrote:From that thread:Skep tickle wrote:Archive link: http://archive.is/z9URC
:popcorn:Siobhan wrote:A few well known fuckbois who are tolerated on PZ’s blog didn’t make it through my filter. Go JAQ off on other blogs, I ain’t tolerating your sea lion bullshit. You’re in my house and you will not pretend you can dictate to trans folk what constitutes civil treatment.
OK, so now that we know how unbearable it is in the Buzzfeed offices, what are they going to do to fix the reality that they have a bunch of assholes working for them?Suet Cardigan wrote:Irony/lack of self awareness alert:
...
A popular shopkeeper who wished Christians a happy Easter on Facebook was stabbed to death in what police in Scotland say was a “religiously prejudiced” attack carried out by a fellow Muslim, it was reported Saturday.
A vigil was held Friday night in Glasgow’s Shawlands neighborhood in memory of Asad Shah who was killed the day before-- a few hours after he apparently posted messages on Facebook that said “Good Friday and very happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation.”
“Let’s follow the real footstep of beloved holy Jesus Christ and get the real success in both worlds,” one of the messages said.
Police said a 32-year-old man has been arrested in connection with Shah’s death. Police said the suspect is Muslim. He was not been identified.
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon joined the vigil in support of Shah and his family.
“Moved to be one of hundreds tonight as Shawlands united in grief for Asad Shah and support for his family,” Sturgeon tweeted afterward, the BBC reported Saturday.
...
Old_ones wrote:LMAO.free thoughtpolice wrote:I'm not sure if this is a troll or not, it sounds suspiciously like the navy seal copy pasta. This particular one seems to endorse using violence to enforce political correctness. From PZ's post on the protest of the Trump2016 chalk graffiti:
https://archive.is/j6l7zwzrd1
25 March 2016 at 12:08 pm
I’ll say something from far outside of academia, I’m a veteran, of special forces no less. I have my own share of triggers and when triggered, it ain’t pretty.
So, I’ll ask you, as you loathe “PC” and trigger warnings, do you honestly want to antagonize a man who is perfectly capable of killing you in a twinkling of an eye?
Where, you were being the insensitive asshole from hell, rubbing your assholedom in everyone’s faces, hit my trigger and you’re on the floor breathing your last?
That is a very real possibility, the police would be summoned and yet another “disturbed veteran” story would grace the news. You’d still be dead.
That is the simple reality of our society, you don’t know who is a veteran, who lost a loved one to murder, who was raped and you blithely go about trying to trigger those people. Some of us can end your miserable existence and not be at all upset about it, for we’ve improved the human gene pool by pruning the low hanging branch.
Now, to meet me, you’d find I’m a delightful, calm, humor filled guy. Pretty much every loves to meet me. But, hidden beneath the veneer of civilization, humor and general wonderful conversation lies that monster hidden beneath all humans. The difference between us is a lifetime of experience and training.
You’d not get to know that until it’s too late, in your misfit version of the world.
So, whether or not you like it, I do champion for sensitivity, “political correctness” (which really means letting people enjoy the rights I fought in two wars for) and to be protected from assholes who really should be pruned from the tree of mankind.
But, freedom is a risky business, engage in boorishness at your own hazard.
"Hey guize I was totally in the NAVY Seals so you better not use hurtful words like "homo" or "tranny", and you REALLY better not have a Donald Trump sign in your front yard. If I see any microaggressions I might just go CRAZY and END YOUR LIFE with my Top Secret Special Forces Jujitsu chop before I can stop the flashbacks".
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I've known a few vets, including some Special Forces guys. This isn't remotely what any of them have been like - even the ones with PTSD. One thing I've noticed is that people who are deadly don't spend a lot of time bragging about how fast they could kill you. They don't have anything to prove in that regard. This post reminds me of those pharyingula circle jerks where they all try to one up each other about how high their IQs are.
"Oh yeah, well mine's 175. Oh yeah, well mine's 180."
I remember brownian once saying something like "I know what my IQ is, and you are VERY unlikely to have one which is higher". Yup, good going. You are doing great things with it to.
Could be plugin settings. The embeds force flash, and if you have that disabled, then they don't show.comhcinc wrote:What platform are you using?Sunder wrote:Youtube embeds haven't been showing up for me lately. No idea what's wrong.
Example
I am on Windows 10 using the Chrome Version 49.0.2623.108 m
I think it is stupid, and mean, and a few other things to ostracize someone because they used to do, or still do porn. So what? Literally, so what? Who did they hurt? no one. Who did they harm? no one.Brive1987 wrote:I see Bree Olsen was completely blindsided when 'society' stereotyped her.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/ce ... 97cfac7d28
http://i.imgur.com/J18G10g.jpgI wish that people would treat me like they’d treat a married registered nurse with 2.5 kids in Indiana. That’s how I wish people would treat me. But it’ll never happen — that’s probably why I don’t think about it.”
Well Buzzfeed looks like a shit place to work. All the men are Spring Break tossbags, and the women are whinging harpies. Also, extremely racially homogenous: white, with a couple of blacks sprinkled in for color, but no Chinese, Japanese, Bangladeshis, Native Americans...Suet Cardigan wrote:Irony/lack of self awareness alert:
BuzzFeedYellow puts up a shitty video about women being ignored and talked over in the workplace:
[youtube]8eSj1jnmD3Q[/youtube]
HoneyBadgerRadio puts up a response video in which three women (Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman and Ceara McCord) criticise the BuzzFeed vid:
[youtube]JZq9lshdEcI[/youtube]
Buzzfeed flags the Badgers' video and has it taken down (though it's back up now).
http://alaskanatheist.me/wp-content/upl ... ymeter.png
MacGruberKnows wrote:Climate change can be strange at time. I remember freerepublic had a thread about how snowfall was increasing in the Antarctic interior and this was proof that climate change was a fraud. But the Antarctic interior is actually a desert. Very little snowfall because there is very little water vapor because of the extreme cold. An increase in snowfall actually meant the interior was warming up allowing more water vapor into the atmosphere to precipitate out as snow.comhcinc wrote:No, global warming is false because it just snowed. The climate changes every day.jet_lagg wrote: It's exactly as stupid as people who shriek climate change is false because it just snowed.
Take that Al Gore!!!!
Same thing with an increase in ice in some of the waters around the Antarctic. That actually indicated warming conditions that increased fresh water runoff into the ocean that increased the temperature at which ice could still ice form thereby increasing ice formation.
It's a tricky thing.
The biggest indicator to me that the climate change deniers are liars is the constant trick of using the outlier year of I'm thinking 1997 for the claim that since that time the climate has actually gotten cooler. If you did that kind of stock analysis to sell stock to a buyer you would go to jail, picking a point on a trend-line to say the trend itself is false is not even bad statistics, it's just lieing.
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Well Buzzfeed looks like a shit place to work. All the men are Spring Break tossbags, and the women are whinging harpies. Also, extremely racially homogenous: white, with a couple of blacks sprinkled in for color, but no Chinese, Japanese, Bangladeshis, Native Americans...Suet Cardigan wrote:Irony/lack of self awareness alert:
BuzzFeedYellow puts up a shitty video about women being ignored and talked over in the workplace:
[youtube]8eSj1jnmD3Q[/youtube]
HoneyBadgerRadio puts up a response video in which three women (Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman and Ceara McCord) criticise the BuzzFeed vid:
[youtube]JZq9lshdEcI[/youtube]
Buzzfeed flags the Badgers' video and has it taken down (though it's back up now).
http://alaskanatheist.me/wp-content/upl ... ymeter.png
It seems to me that Buzzfeed is an employer with limited understanding of the world outside of the US, and I shall take my searches for "the twenty-seven things we love most about Friends" elsewhere.
Welch, did you read the link in the OP?welch wrote:I think it is stupid, and mean, and a few other things to ostracize someone because they used to do, or still do porn. So what? Literally, so what? Who did they hurt? no one. Who did they harm? no one.Brive1987 wrote:I see Bree Olsen was completely blindsided when 'society' stereotyped her.
But they'll get treated like they have social ebola. And feminists will be twice as awful about it as any other group.
The 2nd video is >2 hrs long....can anyone give a summary or point to key sections of the video?Suet Cardigan wrote:Irony/lack of self awareness alert:
BuzzFeedYellow puts up a shitty video about women being ignored and talked over in the workplace:
[.youtube]8eSj1jnmD3Q[/youtube]
HoneyBadgerRadio puts up a response video in which three women (Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman and Ceara McCord) criticise the BuzzFeed vid:
[.youtube]JZq9lshdEcI[/youtube]
Buzzfeed flags the Badgers' video and has it taken down (though it's back up now).
[.img]http://alaskanatheist.me/wp-content/upl ... ymeter.png[/img]
Feminist suck.Skep tickle wrote: The 2nd video is >2 hrs long....can anyone give a summary or point to key sections of the video?
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Welch, did you read the link in the OP?welch wrote:I think it is stupid, and mean, and a few other things to ostracize someone because they used to do, or still do porn. So what? Literally, so what? Who did they hurt? no one. Who did they harm? no one.Brive1987 wrote:I see Bree Olsen was completely blindsided when 'society' stereotyped her.
But they'll get treated like they have social ebola. And feminists will be twice as awful about it as any other group.
http://i.imgur.com/YbPOTMR.png
Boo fucking hoo, you can't find work as an actress. I guess "surprised face when the plumber gets his cock out" may not be all that regular casting directors are looking for.
I do not have a sympathy boner:
http://i.imgur.com/SxvD7uH.png
My point was not that she should have her acting career held back because she had been a porn actress.welch wrote:ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Welch, did you read the link in the OP?welch wrote:
I think it is stupid, and mean, and a few other things to ostracize someone because they used to do, or still do porn. So what? Literally, so what? Who did they hurt? no one. Who did they harm? no one.
But they'll get treated like they have social ebola. And feminists will be twice as awful about it as any other group.
http://i.imgur.com/YbPOTMR.png
Boo fucking hoo, you can't find work as an actress. I guess "surprised face when the plumber gets his cock out" may not be all that regular casting directors are looking for.
I do not have a sympathy boner:
http://i.imgur.com/SxvD7uH.png
I fail to see how success as a porn star automatically disqualifies her from sympathy. I also fail to see how the fact that she was a porn star means she cannot act or is not worthy of fair consideration for a part.
I don't see how it would be different if she had been a very successful anything else. if she is legitimately bad as an actor, that's fine. But there is an automatic "porn stars are not allowed to do anything else" thing that happens in this country at least, and I think it's stupid. So what, someone made some money fucking. Doesn't mean they should be shit on because they want to do something else. She has "acted before". Different kind of acting from movies/television, but so is shakespearean theater. Yet, you don't see a lot of people automatically assuming that because someone has only ever acted on a stage that they cannot manage the different kind of acting you do for television or movies.
This isn't difficult. If Bree Olsen is pants as an actor, okay, she sucks as an actor. But that's not because she did porn or in spite of the fact she did porn. She did porn, and she's an awful actor. The two are neither mutually exclusive nor mutually dependent. They're related, but neither one is causal towards the other.
Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.welch wrote:Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
Why not? Excessively stretched vaginas?Billie from Ockham wrote:While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.welch wrote:Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
well, everyone does that. Who isn't unhappy when a really sweet gig falls through?ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:My point was not that she should have her acting career held back because she had been a porn actress.welch wrote:ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Welch, did you read the link in the OP?
http://i.imgur.com/YbPOTMR.png
Boo fucking hoo, you can't find work as an actress. I guess "surprised face when the plumber gets his cock out" may not be all that regular casting directors are looking for.
I do not have a sympathy boner:
http://i.imgur.com/SxvD7uH.png
I fail to see how success as a porn star automatically disqualifies her from sympathy. I also fail to see how the fact that she was a porn star means she cannot act or is not worthy of fair consideration for a part.
I don't see how it would be different if she had been a very successful anything else. if she is legitimately bad as an actor, that's fine. But there is an automatic "porn stars are not allowed to do anything else" thing that happens in this country at least, and I think it's stupid. So what, someone made some money fucking. Doesn't mean they should be shit on because they want to do something else. She has "acted before". Different kind of acting from movies/television, but so is shakespearean theater. Yet, you don't see a lot of people automatically assuming that because someone has only ever acted on a stage that they cannot manage the different kind of acting you do for television or movies.
This isn't difficult. If Bree Olsen is pants as an actor, okay, she sucks as an actor. But that's not because she did porn or in spite of the fact she did porn. She did porn, and she's an awful actor. The two are neither mutually exclusive nor mutually dependent. They're related, but neither one is causal towards the other.
Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
My point - and it may not have been clear - was that this was just another unemployed actor/actress whinging about not landing the job of their dreams.
Exactly. A 14-year-old boy is not fully developed. If he loses his cherry to his middle-school social-studies teacher and it feels like he's a spelunker, poking around in some huge, dark and damp cave, unable to touch more than one wall at a time, he could be scarred for life. Uncool.Really? wrote:Why not? Excessively stretched vaginas?
based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote:While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.welch wrote:Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
Nah I can totally see a big time porn star being unable to teach high schoolers effectively. I mean the kids are just going to spend the time in her class digitally passing nudes of her back and forth on their phones.welch wrote:based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote:
While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
Wasn't there a novel/short story about that by Kilgore Trout? The hot teacher was also some kind of alien?Billie from Ockham wrote:Exactly. A 14-year-old boy is not fully developed. If he loses his cherry to his middle-school social-studies teacher and it feels like he's a spelunker, poking around in some huge, dark and damp cave, unable to touch more than one wall at a time, he could be scarred for life. Uncool.Really? wrote:Why not? Excessively stretched vaginas?
Eh. As long as they know the most obnoxious boy in the class will find out, and tell everyone, and they can maintain authority afterwards, then sure, no problem from me, either.welch wrote:based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote:While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.welch wrote:Same thing with the various teachers who have been fired because before they were a teacher, they did other things that are OMG BAAAAD. Look, if a teacher fucked for a buck on film before they were a teacher, or they do it during the fucking summer, I don't care. I never even knew what my teachers did outside of the classroom, and that was fine. As long as it's not illegal, or actually hurting people, party the fuck on.
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
Exactly. I've seen people with "perfect" backgrounds be completely unable to teach well because the reality of being a teacher is kind of weird, and sometimes, desire to do a thing isn't enough. If someone is able to demonstrate proper potential, and meets the requirements, then they deserve fair consideration. It's not like every "successful" teacher is actually good.Keating wrote:Eh. As long as they know the most obnoxious boy in the class will find out, and tell everyone, and they can maintain authority afterwards, then sure, no problem from me, either.welch wrote:based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote: While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
welch wrote:Exactly. I've seen people with "perfect" backgrounds be completely unable to teach well because the reality of being a teacher is kind of weird, and sometimes, desire to do a thing isn't enough. If someone is able to demonstrate proper potential, and meets the requirements, then they deserve fair consideration. It's not like every "successful" teacher is actually good.Keating wrote:
Eh. As long as they know the most obnoxious boy in the class will find out, and tell everyone, and they can maintain authority afterwards, then sure, no problem from me, either.
And if a teacher is a woman, young, and hot, that becomes the subject of obsession for teenaged boys.Really? wrote:I am pretty prudish in my own personal life, but I don't see how a porn past should prevent someone from teaching. So kids will snicker. They snicker anyway about the teacher who is getting divorced or got a DUI or who says "all right" 150 times in each class or who has the largest butt I have ever seen. It was amazing. I never snickered, but many did.
Would this argument hold up in any other regard? I am sure there are some kids who would not respect the authority of a black teacher. Or a gay teacher. Or a teacher who has a very thick accent. Too bad.
Com'on. You really don't understand why an ex-porn star would not be an effective teacher of 14-18 year-old boys?welch wrote:based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote:While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
Really? wrote: Or a teacher who has a very thick accent. Too bad.
you do know that there are other ages of children in school right? At least in the US anyways. It's not just 14-18.Billie from Ockham wrote:Com'on. You really don't understand why an ex-porn star would not be an effective teacher of 14-18 year-old boys?welch wrote:based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?Billie from Ockham wrote:While I'm very sympathetic to your general point that what people have done before is usually irrelevant, I can only agree if you accept my added word (in italics) and then I must go on to say that having been a porn star in the past is a problem for a middle- or high-school teacher. It pains me to say this, but I actually agree with school boards that have policies against ex-porn stars being teachers at this level. Not because there's anything wrong with having been a porn star, but because ex-porn stars can't do the job effectively.
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
Again, it's sad and not really the teacher's fault, but that's the way it is.
don't forget men with silly facial hair.comhcinc wrote:Really? wrote: Or a teacher who has a very thick accent. Too bad.
Nope that won't work either. Lots of people can't be teachers of high schoolers.
Immigrants, ex porn stars, short men, and anyone with an eye patch.
How could we?welch wrote: don't forget men with silly facial hair.
Big titty teachers = no algebra will be learned.welch wrote:don't forget men with silly facial hair.comhcinc wrote:Really? wrote: Or a teacher who has a very thick accent. Too bad.
Nope that won't work either. Lots of people can't be teachers of high schoolers.
Immigrants, ex porn stars, short men, and anyone with an eye patch.
Or non-pornstar women with HUGE TITS.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uplo ... 48_HHH.jpgNoGodsEver wrote:How could we?welch wrote: don't forget men with silly facial hair.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... dding1.jpg
I am pretty sure we all knew guys in high school who would still have called Mr. Terminator a homo fag in third period chemistry.welch wrote:you do know that there are other ages of children in school right? At least in the US anyways. It's not just 14-18.Billie from Ockham wrote:Com'on. You really don't understand why an ex-porn star would not be an effective teacher of 14-18 year-old boys?welch wrote:
based on what? Porn stars can't become good teachers? Fucking on film damages that ability?
As long as they aren't bringing it into the classroom, so what? (and I say this as a parent.) Honestly, I find a teacher bringing religion into a classroom full of young'ins more offensive than the kids finding out a teacher used to do porn. I know which one is shown to cause more permanent mental and emotional damage.
Again, it's sad and not really the teacher's fault, but that's the way it is.
and, here's a thing, maybe not give them the option. Kids don't need that much veto power at that age. If there are some jackanapes that can't handle it, there are disciplinary processes available, other teachers, etc. Or you know, younger kids.
"oh no, teenaged boys will be total twats"
You mean like they are with gay teachers, fat teachers, really short teachers, really old teachers, really young teachers.
Tell me, other than a terminator or maybe The Punisher, exactly what group of humans possess no characteristics that teenaged boys will NOT be unrelenting twats over?
I spent an amusing minute playing "find the two pieces where droplets are forming" ... Go!MacGruberKnows wrote:I've been doing jigsaws online lately and tried a few jigsaw programs that let you create jigsaw with your own photos. Everyday Jigsaws is pretty good. Here are the pieces for a jigsaw I made:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... solved.jpg
Pretty cool huh?
Droplets were probably forming on every orifice that night.fuzzy wrote:I spent an amusing minute playing "find the two pieces where droplets are forming" ... Go!MacGruberKnows wrote:I've been doing jigsaws online lately and tried a few jigsaw programs that let you create jigsaw with your own photos. Everyday Jigsaws is pretty good. Here are the pieces for a jigsaw I made:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... solved.jpg
Pretty cool huh?
Actually, I have, especially the super pricey ones that look like watered silk. But for my purposes, and style of use, I find them just a tad too, well not exactly flimsy, but sort of flimsy -- thinner and a wee bit more bendable than the Henkels and Wusthofs.You've obviously never been exposed to the excellence of japanese steel.
Redundancy disableist!My link earlier wasn't good enough?!?!
Whatever mansplainer!
