The Refuge of the Toads

[Badger3k]

A bored perusal of the Orbit reveals someone blubbering about a "one penis policy", Lousy giving too much info about his bathing habits (how does he scrub SZvans's grey ring of horror from the enamel?) while Alex has yet to find sufficient spoons to crank out a single orbital missive.

What a sorry bunch of mental deros.

Actually, doesn't Thunderf00t know of a good bath refinishing company?

I've had trouble finding humor in it all lately. The breaking point was seeing this bit, Niki e-begging people to help her play with her cat.

http://the-orbit.net/seriously/2016/04/ ... -play-cat/

It's like I'm laughing at someone who is just a miserable little prick, and suddenly they shit their pants. Just shit them, right there in front of the whole room. Do you keep laughing, or do you offer to get them a clean set and awkwardly shuffle out of the room?

Holy shit, how did I miss this? This takes SJW e-begging to a new low. 'I have disabilities so I can't play with my cat. Unless you give me some money'. :lol: :lol: :lol:

as the years go on, I’m less able to play with him without getting exhausted or sore (one of his favorite things is for one of us dragging a bit of string around for him to chase and catch, you see).

You have got to be shitting me! Okay, so even if we assume you're disabled, how fucking exhausting can it be to dangle a bit of string around for your cat? Jesus H Christ. Here's a thing - cats have a short attention span. They get bored pretty quickly. So it's not like you're having to wear yourself out by...well, dangling a bit of string all the fuckin time. Five mins a couple of times a day, tops. Holy shit. That is a some sad shite. :lol:

You can get a laser pointer for a few bucks. Works well for cats and dogs (at least mine like it). Perfect for when I can't run around with them, which is way too often at this point.

[John D]

Damn... it looks like I will not be getting my Surlyramic after all. Just a stupid poster. I want my money back. It is fun to watch them hate on each other however. haha.

Kickstarter

4
We Made a Mistake, and We Apologize

Posted by Stephanie Zvan (Creator)

When The Orbit launched, we offered a number of rewards on our (ongoing) Kickstarter, including Surly-Ramics jewelry. As readers may or may not know, there was controversy two years ago—involving, among others, Surly-Ramics creator Amy Davis Roth—regarding ableist language and responses to criticism. There remains significant disagreement among disability activists about these events: some accepted Amy’s apology and subsequent actions, while others are still dissatisfied with her reaction when criticized. (For details, see the linked post, written by one participant. https://teenskepchick.org/2014/02/17/wh ... -timeline/)

Many Orbit bloggers, who have different relationships (or lack thereof) with Amy and Surly-Ramics, are ourselves disabled and engaged in disability advocacy to different extents. While some now feel comfortable promoting Amy’s work, others differ, and individual bloggers will continue drawing their own lines. As a network, however, we recognize offering Surly-Ramics was a mistake, both because no consensus existed on our network and because doing so without explanation cast doubt on disability rights’ importance to us. We apologize for that mistake.

While preparing to launch our site, we did a lot of things in a hurry. This decision was made quickly, and we now realize we should have given ourselves more time to reach the fully informed consensus The Orbit aims to operate under. In the absence of this consensus, we are no longer offering the Surly-Ramics through our Kickstarter. Although we remain contractually bound to provide the jewelry to any donors who requested it, Surly-Ramics are now marked "sold out". In their place, we’re offering poster prints by Orbit blogger and disability activist Ania Bula. (Any existing backers who would rather receive a print as a reward can change their pledge any time before the Kickstarter closes.)

In addition, we’re now examining our decision-making process to stop situations like this from arising in the future and looking at ways to respond to criticism more quickly. While we can’t promise never to make another mistake, we aim to make as few as possible, especially where marginalized people are concerned. We hope anyone hurt by this one can accept our apology, though we recognize they retain the right not to.

[Badger3k]

Ah... :nin:

[Steersman]

Remember the islamophobic backlash in Brussels? Where a far right goon mowed down a muslim woman that was peacefully protesting?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262408/ ... rt-spencer

Complete headline:

PERPS OF 'FAR-RIGHT' HIT-AND-RUN ON MUSLIM WOMAN WERE MUSLIMS
Yet another “anti-Muslim hate crime” fizzles in the face of the facts.

Like the recent case of a Muslim woman in New York who reportedly slashed her own face and claimed it was some street thug.

Certainly plausible that some far-right nutcases go off the deep end. But maybe more cases of Muslim nutcases - aren't they all? (more or less) - doing likewise.

[Badger3k]

Since when is laziness a disability?

[Ericb]

Honestly, though - what's stopping Angry Black Womyn from getting one of those little laser pens? They're cheap as chips and you can basically sit on your arse and wave it about a bit - and cats generally go nuts for that little light flicking around. You seriously cannot be so disabled that you're unable to entertain your cat by flicking a laser light around the room every now and then - unless you're paralysed, or something. And Angry Black Womyn ain't. Fucking pathetic e-beg. And oh look - some twats seem to have fallen for it: http://the-orbit.net/seriously/2016/04/ ... oy-update/

Making a ball of aluminum foil is another option. Also I couldn't help notice that her cat is white and male. She needs get a female/trans cat of color right now or she's enabling the Patriarchy.

[Steersman]

Damn... it looks like I will not be getting my Surlyramic after all. Just a stupid poster. I want my money back. It is fun to watch them hate on each other however. haha.

Kickstarter

4
We Made a Mistake, and We Apologize

Posted by Stephanie Zvan (Creator)

When The Orbit launched, we offered a number of rewards on our (ongoing) Kickstarter, including Surly-Ramics jewelry. As readers may or may not know, there was controversy two years ago—involving, among others, Surly-Ramics creator Amy Davis Roth—regarding ableist language and responses to criticism. ....

Un-believable. Makes "Rape of the Lock" look like sober and factual reporting in The New York Times.

[Billie from Ockham]

Since when is laziness a disability?

Since some time before e-begging for a Canon EOS did not violate the terms of "bed-rest."

[Brive1987]

PZ describes Gwyneth Paltrow as:

"a rich, attractive woman with privilege oozing out of her pores .... "

He 1-2s his punch by mocking her funny name.


I thought individual circumstances didn't impact inalienable privilege issues - such as being a women?

Or is PZ wielding a dictionary ?

http://archive.is/H2C3k

[Brive1987]

Surly black banned.

Tears begin in ..

:popcorn:

[Service Dog]

https://k46.kn3.net/taringa/9/8/9/C/A/7 ... 23/6EC.jpg
Porn star Amber Rayne died a day or 2 ago. Apparently due to overdose or 'accident'.

I saw the news in a tabloid. The headline presented her claim-to-fame as being one of the women who accused James Deen of... something unspecified. If you just call her a "Deen accuser"/ it leaves whatever he's accused-of to the imagination.

Another tabloid enumerates the butthurt reaction of her... fans? supporters? people who are using her for their own agenda?

They 'don't want her to be defined by her victimhood.'

But but butt... As I recall, her allegation was quite nuanced & un-victimy. She said Deen & her were really young/ the incident seemed like an anamoly/ they hashed it out later & were friends. Basically, he hit her in a scene-- which came by surprise & was particularly hard. Also her butt bled from anal sex & required a trip to the hospital. She said she only came-forward with her story because the other accusations made her question whether her incident really was an anomaly. One upside of her measured accusation-- is that it didn't crumble when fact-checked. I theeeenk she originally suggested there was a lack of concern on-set/ about her bleeding/ and other people disagreed/ which seemed like honest misremembering on somebody's part-- rather than the entire allegation falling-apart.

The reason I know her name-- is because her aggressive sexual style stood-out. She was like a guy in a fight who says "come on! I'll give you a free shot! Hit me as hard as you can!" and, then, "Is that all you got?" She used racial slurs to goad a black dude fucking her.

But the people hashtagging in 'support' of her... are not supporting her view of what happened to her. To them, James Deen is a 'rapist'-- something she never claimed. To them, she's a victim. Not how she saw herself: as an equal-participant who suffered the lumps that come with her freely-chosen brand of fucking.

Daily Mirror article on the backlash: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-n ... er-7693313

[Steersman]

repudiating the literalism of the Quran = pissing on the Quran

Have you actually ever read anything at all about Islam? Like Nugent's post: Is Islam a religion of peace? It is an integrated religious, political and judicial ideology of social governance imposed by force? Any of the many linked articles I've provided in the Islam and Islamists thread that Kirbmarc started? Either of the articles I and Brive linked to at the beginning of the previous page?

But many of those clearly show that for many Muslims - probably well over 80-90% if the Pew Forum Survey is any guide - pissing on the Quran would likely be easier to do - ok to lie for Jesus or Muhammed - than actually repudiating the Quran.

And, for an instance, you might actually read this Facebook post by an ex-Muslim American woman who highlighted the fact that for most Muslims, even questioning the literalism of the Quran - the claim that it is the literal word of Allah (piss on him, his holy book [ha!], and his Prophet) - is "blasphemy and apostasy". And we know what happens to blasphemers and apostates in Islam, don't we? Though maybe you don't as you don't seem to be much up on current events. In any case, a salient quote:

I went deep into the Midwest, wore a hijab for a year and lived there for 8 years. In that time, I attended ISNA gatherings, met w educated, professional people like myself who were also asking the same questions. They were looking to their faith for answers. And sure, there were efforts made to modernize Islam, but they were only superficial. We couldn't do it. We couldn't do it because there is a logical dilemma at the core of Islam. And that is, that the Quran is the last word of God, that it is perfect and unchangeable. And to even suggest such a thing is blasphemy and apostasy.

"Logical dilemma", indeed.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Since when is laziness a disability?

Since some time before e-begging for a Canon EOS did not violate the terms of "bed-rest."

I notice on her blog she lists a lot about herself, but doesn't specify what disability or disabilities she has. She just says "disabled". My guess is one of the nebulous ones. Likely requires a lot of bed rest and pain medication.

[free thoughtpolice]

Could Anita Sarkeesian's current crowd effort get canned for being sexist? Oooh the irony.
[youtube]zl1uaOs01ig[/youtube]

[Sunder]

Remember the islamophobic backlash in Brussels? Where a far right goon mowed down a muslim woman that was peacefully protesting?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262408/ ... rt-spencer

Every ounce of credibility liberals throw away is being picked up by conservatives.

Once again, I really think lefties like bitching about the right more than they like winning against them, because their tactics are so inept as to ensure that there will always be something to bitch about.

[Brive1987]

Oh thank god. PZ is back to normal.

Gloating how much cleverer he is than his dumb students and bitching that having a job is getting in the way of his nap time.

http://i.imgur.com/KQK0cJS.jpg

[Stretchycheese]

Damn... it looks like I will not be getting my Surlyramic after all. Just a stupid poster. I want my money back. It is fun to watch them hate on each other however. haha.

Kickstarter

4
We Made a Mistake, and We Apologize

Posted by Stephanie Zvan (Creator)

When The Orbit launched, we offered a number of rewards on our (ongoing) Kickstarter, including Surly-Ramics jewelry. As readers may or may not know, there was controversy two years ago—involving, among others, Surly-Ramics creator Amy Davis Roth—regarding ableist language and responses to criticism. There remains significant disagreement among disability activists about these events: some accepted Amy’s apology and subsequent actions, while others are still dissatisfied with her reaction when criticized. (For details, see the linked post, written by one participant. https://teenskepchick.org/2014/02/17/wh ... -timeline/)

[snip]

:popcorn: Haha, the "Decaying Orbit".... It's good to see these sanctimonious blowhards re-enact Animal Farm and eat each other like this. These people truly deserve each other.

[jet_lagg]

repudiating the literalism of the Quran = pissing on the Quran

Have you actually ever read anything at all about Islam?

Obviously not. It's not like this is a forum occupied by people who read about and critique religion.

But many of those clearly show that for many Muslims - probably well over 80-90% if the Pew Forum Survey is any guide - pissing on the Quran would likely be easier to do - ok to lie for Jesus or Muhammed - than actually repudiating the Quran.

Sometimes I try to picture the world you live in. You think it would be easier for a Muslim to convince themselves they were "lying" while pissing on the Quran (I'm doing my best to understand what that even means) than it would be for them to say, "sure" *cross fingers* "I repudiate the literalism of the the Quran."

[comhcinc]

Remember the islamophobic backlash in Brussels? Where a far right goon mowed down a muslim woman that was peacefully protesting?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262408/ ... rt-spencer

Every ounce of credibility liberals throw away is being picked up by conservatives.

Once again, I really think lefties like bitching about the right more than they like winning against them, because their tactics are so inept as to ensure that there will always be something to bitch about.

Before I start cheering I would like to see a better source than breibart.

[comhcinc]

Could Anita Sarkeesian's current crowd effort get canned for being sexist? Oooh the irony.
[youtube]l1uaOs01ig[/youtube]

I am sure I am going to get a target painted around me but I found this video to be retarded.

[comhcinc]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/entertain ... usic-dies/

Merle Haggard, the grizzled country music legend whose songs, such as "Okie from Muskogee" and "Fightin' Side of Me," made him a voice for the workingman and the outsider, has died. He was 79.

Haggard died Wednesday, his birthday, of complications from pneumonia at his home in Northern California, his agent Lance Roberts told CNN.
Haggard recorded more than three dozen No. 1 country hits in a musical career that spanned six decades, from the 1960s into the 2010s. He overcame an early life of petty crime and a prison term in San Quentin to develop a rugged, outlaw image that helped sell millions of records.

There is a picture somewhere of a young comhcinc setting on the knee of Merle Haggard.

[free thoughtpolice]

stretchycheese: If you like feminist on feminist warfare you may also like:
[youtube]1_JR-lzDHAc[/youtube]

[Malky]

Something for the pit artists to play with:

https://i.chzbgr.com/fill400x232/774661/h9E2252E4/

[some guy]

Remember the islamophobic backlash in Brussels? Where a far right goon mowed down a muslim woman that was peacefully protesting?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262408/ ... rt-spencer

Every ounce of credibility liberals throw away is being picked up by conservatives.

Once again, I really think lefties like bitching about the right more than they like winning against them, because their tactics are so inept as to ensure that there will always be something to bitch about.

For those that just skimmed past an ambiguous post:

Perps of 'Far-Right' Hit-and-Run on Muslim Woman Were Muslims
​The footage went far and wide, and was trumpeted everywhere as evidence of “Islamophobia” spreading like Ebola in Europe: a hijabbed Muslim woman was brutally mown down by a speeding car during a protest in the Muslim neighborhood of Molenbeek in Brussels. A passenger even leaned out of the car after hitting the woman and took a photo. The gruesome footage spread everywhere as evidence that the “far-right,” you see, had declared open season on poor Muslim migrants, and Muslims all across the continent were endangered. The only problem was that this scenario of white racists preying upon innocent Muslims, so wildly popular in the international media, was false yet again: people in the hit-and-run car were Muslims.

[free thoughtpolice]

commie wrote:

I am sure I am going to get a target painted around me but I found this video to be retarded.

Not enough goofs getting smacked over the head with folding chairs?

[Sunder]

Something for the pit artists to play with:

https://i.chzbgr.com/fill400x232/774661/h9E2252E4/

I got a feeling this has been shared on the Pit before but if not I'm happy to be the one to do it.

[youtube]e5HClEzE4ww[/youtube]

[comhcinc]

commie wrote:

I am sure I am going to get a target painted around me but I found this video to be retarded.

Not enough goofs getting smacked over the head with folding chairs?

Chair shots have been banned since 2007 bear!

No I just felt it was a little be too juvenile. Like a lot of Tfoot's videos are juvenile and that's fine and I find them fun but this one was just too much. Too much gander grease or whatever.

Just my opinion.

[free thoughtpolice]

Remember the islamophobic backlash in Brussels? Where a far right goon mowed down a muslim woman that was peacefully protesting?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262408/ ... rt-spencer

Every ounce of credibility liberals throw away is being picked up by conservatives.

Once again, I really think lefties like bitching about the right more than they like winning against them, because their tactics are so inept as to ensure that there will always be something to bitch about.

Before I start cheering I would like to see a better source than breibart.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 65901.html

I'm not sure how many commenters blamed the hit and run on right wingers. Some reports mentioned the suspects were from Molenbeek, which hints that they were likely from a muslim background.

[Xenu]

Let me get this straight:

• - Over 2 years ago, Surly Amy and Elyse made a blog post calling their Ddos attackers "stupid"
  - A couple of stupid feminist "women" took offence to the use of the word stupid, despite it being directed at people attacking two feminist women, because "ableism"
  - 2 years later, this insignificant incident is brought back up by someone and convinces The Orbit to no-platform Surly Amy and no longer offer her products as rewards for kickstarter support.

REALLY? This is fucking Surly Amy, jeweler of the SJWs, the manic of ceramics, the boogaloo of bad tattoos, the Pyongyang of uneven bangs.

If they kick people like her out of their club, there will soon be no one left in Orbit to complain about anything.

[screwtape]

Something for the pit artists to play with:

https://i.chzbgr.com/fill400x232/774661/h9E2252E4/

I got a feeling this has been shared on the Pit before but if not I'm happy to be the one to do it.

[youtube]e5HClEzE4ww[/youtube]

A candidate for the "I love this post" meme.

[Brive1987]

But this is the Orbit. Refuge and scum hole of the chronically lame. A safe zone for those in social pain.

[comhcinc]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 65901.html

I'm not sure how many commenters blamed the hit and run on right wingers. Some reports mentioned the suspects were from Molenbeek, which hints that they were likely from a muslim background.

Yeah I went back and looked at the breitbart link and found that they did have some local sources. I still think it's lazy and unhelpful to use them as a source but am glad they are getting better.

[John D]

Let me get this straight:

• - Over 2 years ago, Surly Amy and Elyse made a blog post calling their Ddos attackers "stupid"
  - A couple of stupid feminist "women" took offence to the use of the word stupid, despite it being directed at people attacking two feminist women, because "ableism"
  - 2 years later, this insignificant incident is brought back up by someone and convinces The Orbit to no-platform Surly Amy and no longer offer her products as rewards for kickstarter support.

REALLY? This is fucking Surly Amy, jeweler of the SJWs, the manic of ceramics, the boogaloo of bad tattoos, the Pyongyang of uneven bangs.

If they kick people like her out of their club, there will soon be no one left in Orbit to complain about anything.

Yeah... haha. Here is the twitter convo that triggered the universe. Since I can't get my Orbit Surlyramic I cancelled my pledge. I wrote that they were no better now than before.

Kassiane ‏@UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy I usually love you but holyfuck your valentine to DDOSers was the most ableist thing I’ve seen in a WHILE. Be better

Kassiane @UVGKassi
@skepchicks You couldn’t make the point w.o being disgustingly ableist? #abledpeoplesay #whyicantbefeminist

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi How so exactly?

Kassiane @UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy all the “stupid” & “I’m surprised you remember to breathe”. Like, holy fuck ableism. Considering tossing my surlies. It’s THAT BAD

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi The words of the poem were by Elyse. I did not realize that stupid is an ableist term. Can you advise on substitute words?

Kassiane ‏@UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy pretty much anything that isn’t intellect related? The “surprised you remember to breathe” shoulda made all y’all pause. #ableism

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi Thank you for pointing it out to me. I will look for alternatives in future writing.

Kassiane ‏@UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy This is a really disappointing lack of thinking from a collective I did admire.

Kassiane ‏@UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy Thank you. I would like to continue liking skepchick, but when ppl like me are the punchline I CANT.

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi You JUST said we are not thinking. That is an intellect related insult. You realize the irony here, yes?

Kassiane ‏@UVGKassi
@SurlyAmy “Aren’t thinking” and “you can’t think lols idiot” are vastly different. You can see why, right?

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi I apoligize, I just looked and the word idiot is there. Again, I didnt write the words so I must have forgotten.

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@UVGKassi SO I have heard you and will try to do better. If you want to throw away my art that is your choice.

ischemgeek ‏@ischemgeek
@SurlyAmy Stupid, IME, is polite-company “r*****d.” I say as a person who has been called both.

Amy Davis Roth ‏@SurlyAmy
@ischemgeek Thanks for further clarification. I’d list all the names I get called everyday but twitter is only 140 characters.

ischemgeek ‏@ischemgeek
@SurlyAmy further clarification: Stupid is to retard as shrill or harpy is to b***h/c**t. It’s a dogwhistly way of saying the same thing.

[comhcinc]

Yeah... haha. Here is the twitter convo that triggered the universe. Since I can't get my Orbit Surlyramic I cancelled my pledge. I wrote that they were no better now than before.

But you could get one. They had to honor and even said so.

[Service Dog]

Damn... it looks like I will not be getting my Surlyramic after all. Just a stupid poster. I want my money back. It is fun to watch them hate on each other however. haha.

Kickstarter

4
We Made a Mistake, and We Apologize

Posted by Stephanie Zvan (Creator)

When The Orbit launched, we offered a number of rewards on our (ongoing) Kickstarter, including Surly-Ramics jewelry. As readers may or may not know, there was controversy two years ago—involving, among others, Surly-Ramics creator Amy Davis Roth—regarding ableist language and responses to criticism. There remains significant disagreement among disability activists about these events: some accepted Amy’s apology and subsequent actions, while others are still dissatisfied with her reaction when criticized. (For details, see the linked post, written by one participant. https://teenskepchick.org/2014/02/17/wh ... -timeline/)

That is so Zvan!... petty drama-monger... to not-just acknowledge a dispute/ but to tattle it all-over again... in full crapjuicy detail... positioning herself as your humble, judicious observer.

[Oglebart]

Let me get this straight:

• - Over 2 years ago, Surly Amy and Elyse made a blog post calling their Ddos attackers "stupid"
  - A couple of stupid feminist "women" took offence to the use of the word stupid, despite it being directed at people attacking two feminist women, because "ableism"
  - 2 years later, this insignificant incident is brought back up by someone and convinces The Orbit to no-platform Surly Amy and no longer offer her products as rewards for kickstarter support.

REALLY? This is fucking Surly Amy, jeweler of the SJWs, the manic of ceramics, the boogaloo of bad tattoos, the Pyongyang of uneven bangs.

If they kick people like her out of their club, there will soon be no one left in Orbit to complain about anything.

Won't somebody think of the baby rhinos?? :D

[John D]

Yeah... haha. Here is the twitter convo that triggered the universe. Since I can't get my Orbit Surlyramic I cancelled my pledge. I wrote that they were no better now than before.

But you could get one. They had to honor and even said so.

It's fucking Kickstarter.... they don't "have" to do anything. They did let me cancel my pledge, so they have some honor in that. Haha.

[John D]

The did lose about $400 in the last hour or so. They were over $8800 when I pulled my pledge.

[comhcinc]

Yeah... haha. Here is the twitter convo that triggered the universe. Since I can't get my Orbit Surlyramic I cancelled my pledge. I wrote that they were no better now than before.

But you could get one. They had to honor and even said so.

It's fucking Kickstarter.... they don't "have" to do anything. They did let me cancel my pledge, so they have some honor in that. Haha.

Although we remain contractually bound to provide the jewelry to any donors who requested it, Surly-Ramics are now marked "sold out". In their place, we’re offering poster prints by Orbit blogger and disability activist Ania Bula. (Any existing backers who would rather receive a print as a reward can change their pledge any time before the Kickstarter closes.)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10 ... ts/1540302

If you would have stayed in you would have still gotten one.

[ffs]

More Muslims refusing to piss on their korans.

Laws criminalising the abuse of women "unislamic".

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistan-sh ... nce-islam/

Western colonialism rears its ugly head again!

[John D]

But you could get one. They had to honor and even said so.

It's fucking Kickstarter.... they don't "have" to do anything. They did let me cancel my pledge, so they have some honor in that. Haha.

Although we remain contractually bound to provide the jewelry to any donors who requested it, Surly-Ramics are now marked "sold out". In their place, we’re offering poster prints by Orbit blogger and disability activist Ania Bula. (Any existing backers who would rather receive a print as a reward can change their pledge any time before the Kickstarter closes.)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10 ... ts/1540302

If you would have stayed in you would have still gotten one.

No... It was marked "sold out" so I could not select it as an option. I am pretty sure this means they will distribute no Surleys. I guess I could be wrong... but this is they way the "ordering" process works. I had no way to choose the Surley option. Besides... I am enjoying the drama.

[ffs]

FFS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ins ... r-neutral/

Wasn't me, I dress all my cats like Danielle Muscato

[comhcinc]

No... It was marked "sold out" so I could not select it as an option. I am pretty sure this means they will distribute no Surleys. I guess I could be wrong... but this is they way the "ordering" process works. I had no way to choose the Surley option. Besides... I am enjoying the drama.

If you pledged before they made that decision and assuming you were okay with being an ableist shitlord and not getting the super awesome poster then you would have gotten the shitty jewelry.

You made it seem like you had pledged before that happened.

[DaveDodo007]

Oh I'm already sold, I'm a UK conservative and sick of this shit. Unless the lefty/liberals get a grip of this feminist/SJW retarded bollocks I will be leading the mob when we burn down the village.

But Sargon is a Liberal? :think:

I know I like to rag on lefty/liberals and I'm generalising them (old school lefties and classical liberals exist.) Though you must realise that you are a very small minority surrounded by fucktards so why not get out? You can always go back after us conservatives have BTFO.

[Stretchycheese]

stretchycheese: If you like feminist on feminist warfare you may also like:
[youtube]1_JR-lzDHAc[/youtube]

I've heard of these two. There was a similar kerfuffle with a male feminist named Sequester Zone and SJW youtubers which caused a bit of an SJW civil war.

Things like this are just symptomatic of their cult-like ideology. If they're not able to achieve their 1984 utopia, they'll implode in their Animal Farm. Among SJW movements or any totalitarian ideology, you'll get two types of people who eventually show up. Either (1) very narcissistic, manipulative power and status seeking individuals who know what buttons to push or dogwhistles to use, or (2) puritanical zealots or demagogues who want to excommunicate or silence moderates, heretics or insufficiently devout members within their group. SJWs are ultimately their own worst enemy, not "MRAs" or "privileged shitlords".

[ffs]

Disclosure: I find the way people talk about SJW's, sometimes, problematic.

Why, how do you normally talk about racist, genocidal, psychopathic shitlords?

[deLurch]

Interesting consideration on the "I have black friends" defense to racism.
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[Brive1987]

Disclosure: I find the way people talk about SJW's, sometimes, problematic.

Why, how do you normally talk about racist, genocidal, psychopathic shitlords?

I think he is referencing Com's accommodationism. :mrgreen:

[ERV]

Milo is coming to campus.

:-D

[Brive1987]

With his mom?

[ERV]

With his mom?

I think it's just him :( but still, :-D

[comhcinc]

Though you must realise that you are a very small minority surrounded by fucktards so why not get out?

No I think most people are rational enough on all sides and it's the fucktards that are a very small minority just a loud one.

Also it's not a team game. There is nothing to get out of. I am not going to abandon my principles just because of some assholes who are trying to usurp them for their own means.

[comhcinc]

With his mom?

I think it's just him :( but still, :-D

Spill the details lady!

[DaveDodo007]

PZ describes Gwyneth Paltrow as:

"a rich, attractive woman with privilege oozing out of her pores .... "

He 1-2s his punch by mocking her funny name.


I thought individual circumstances didn't impact inalienable privilege issues - such as being a women?

Or is PZ wielding a dictionary ?

http://archive.is/H2C3k

Well he seems to be getting back to science stuff but you are still a feminist PZ ideological twat.

[Brive1987]

With his mom?

I think it's just him :( but still, :-D

Please document the Vuvuzela Ensemble.

[ffs]

Milo is coming to campus.

:-D

Going to be a huge sale on menstrual blood shortly!

[ERV]

With his mom?

I think it's just him :( but still, :-D

Spill the details lady!

[comhcinc]

Spill the details lady!

I am going to try to make it.

[John D]

No... It was marked "sold out" so I could not select it as an option. I am pretty sure this means they will distribute no Surleys. I guess I could be wrong... but this is they way the "ordering" process works. I had no way to choose the Surley option. Besides... I am enjoying the drama.

If you pledged before they made that decision and assuming you were okay with being an ableist shitlord and not getting the super awesome poster then you would have gotten the shitty jewelry.

You made it seem like you had pledged before that happened.

Damn it Com - Please read.

I did pledge... $25. I provided my Credit Card number and I was included in all announcements, etc.

I intended to get a Surley. I found no way to make my selection for this item, but it was my intent. Perhaps there was an open link to place my order, but I never found it.

Several Kickstarters I have supported in the past did not start taking detailed orders till the Kickstarter ended. I did not purse making my detailed order assuming this was the case.

The kickstarter is not closed yet so I was able to cancel my pledge.

I don't know why Szan just indicated Surley's are sold out. This is probably the easiest way for her to manage the changes.

[welch]

Jim, important to remember that whatever links Steersman has sent you...chances are excellent that he hasn't read them either.

I'll agree that it looks that way sometimes, but I don't think it's really true. It might only look that way because he just ignores and forgets the parts that he doesn't agree with. I won't throw any stones at him, because I do that myself, sometimes.

Nope. He hasn't even read the source of his sig quote. True dat. If it's not in Wikipedia, nicely summarized, he likely hasn't the spoons.

Steerzo long ago discovered that if he jacked the syllable count on your vocabulary, used a thousand words where ten will do, all the while quoting people with smart-sounding titles, he appeared to have some form of expertise. It's all fascia, because what I've noticed is that actual experts, while they will quote sources when needed, don't have the need to do so. They've some confidence in their arguments, can be concise, and don't require that all countering arguments have not just sources, but bettererer sources. They don't constantly need to prove superiority, they know their own limits and are comfortable with those.

Steerzo also made the decision that if he blathers at people until they say "fuck off" and leave, he's "won". He doesn't actually care about the discussion or trading ideas, only in carving another notch in his lotion bottle.